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ViQueen24
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BUT, it cripples many folks with post-Covid-related illness that send people back in the hospital, keeps them out of work, and costs tax dollars. A goodly portion of those people will never return to work. A percentage of them will never be the same, as indicated upthread. BUT, we don't know what surprises Covid has for us coming down the pike, ala Shingles, Post-Polio Syndrome, Encephalitis Lethargica, etc. You will not know the cost of this disease potentially for 20, 50, 100 years. |
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BUT, it cripples many folks with post-Covid-related illness that send people back in the hospital, keeps them out of work, and costs tax dollars. A goodly portion of those people will never return to work. A percentage of them will never be the same, as indicated upthread. BUT, we don't know what surprises Covid has for us coming down the pike, ala Shingles, Post-Polio Syndrome, Encephalitis Lethargica, etc. You will not know the cost of this disease potentially for 20, 50, 100 years. |
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ViQueen24
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Oops, sorry, don't know why that posted twice. |
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But, you made your point well enough to be worth a second post, Vi. |
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ViQueen24
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Lol, I don't know about all that, but it's sweet of you to say, Techno! I feel pretty strongly about it, especially in light of stories like this one, the story of the late Texas Roadhouse restaurant CEO: https://www.aol.com/tinnitus-covid-19-connection-explained-011631547.html |
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Covid was a political con job and you all got dusted. I hear Crow is tasty. |
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ViQueen24
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Guess it's hard to see when you're down the πhole. |
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CNN : Signs of collapse across Brazil as Covid spirals out of control. Bolsonaro seems to have little response. http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/J_izdHnXPGg/index.html |
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Perspective. 8 billion people on earth. 2.8 million died from Covid. Most were comorbid and over 70. That's 1 in 2860 If 2860 people are in a room and every year one person died. Would you be concerned? Just remember 293 people in that room would be over 70. Covid is over. Its under control. There is nothing to fear anymore. Its a powderpuff. |
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BBC News - Covid: France schools to close under third lockdown |
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New Scientist: Brazil faces health system collapse as covid-19 cases skyrocket. |
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CNN : A dangerous coronavirus variant is wreaking havoc in parts of Europe. Experts fear US could be next. http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/PuZ5ulwTJXE/index.html |
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Covid infections in the USA are 30million with 500k dead, Given the population of the USA is 3028 million...... A lot more could be infected.....alot more could die.... So it's not over won't be for years..... Take care all π·π |
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Little House
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Your finger hit an extra key there Carbon. ;) The population of the US is 328 million, but still lots of room for more infections. |
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Oppps sorry , it would be a little crowded.... Hard to social distance....lol Take care all π·π |
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ViQueen24
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Yes, and I think that, even though the US has a higher percentage of cases than the rest of the world, the situation is still the same everywhere. Dutch Josh's Scenarios highlights the possibility that vaccinating against the original strain of Covid may enable other more contagious and virulent strains to emerge, and they may be alot more difficult to vaccinate against. Contrary to Cobber's statistic, largely due to shutdowns of varying degrees, distancing and PPEs, we have succeeded in mitigating the spread of Covid, so the whole population has not been exposed to it. We cannot vaccinate our way out of this totally. We are still going to have to use distancing, PPEs, contact tracing, and occasional rolling shutdowns in our auxiliary toolkit, while hopefully succeeding in creating booster vaccines in order to guard against variants, recombinations, etc. |
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There are five more ways of looking at this, Cobber: The disease maims some people. We don't know what percentage of those people will never fully recover. Yes, some of those over 70s with co morbidities would have died anyway. But not all and every life matters. The more people who have the virus, the more chances it gets to become nastier. The current death toll is lowered by the social distancing, hygene, medicine and masking. It would be far, far worse without it. The toll on health services is deadly enough. I know people who have lost kith and kin to the virus, but even more who have lost people to the strain on the medical services. Either way, folk are dead. It is also a slow and horrible way to die. 'And it's not over yet! |
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It would be "nice" if we could avoid a PPG-Permanent Pandemic Genocide...Going for "herd-immunity" in this Covid19 crisis was a bad choice. The poor are paying the price dying in the thousends each day... There are ways to stop it. Covid over in 30 days is a matter of choices...A 30 day almost global lockdown most likely would bring the R0 far under 1-also do a lot to stop variants. Global vaccinations could limit disease, spread of infections... The only reason "we" are NOT stopping Covid is greed ! |
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DW (English): The coronavirus pandemic is far from over. https://dw.com/p/3eO3O?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews |
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving. |
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Technophobe
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'And https://www.avianflutalk.com/three-million-covid-deaths_topic43843_post306182.html#306182 which seems to show it is accelerating and worsening. |
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The Associated Press: Worldwide COVID-19 death toll tops a staggering 3 million. |
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WitchMisspelled
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I've been away from the forum for a while and am surprised people are still feeding into this. But then, stress needs a vent. Even before I stepped away, I stopped commenting on cobber's opinions. Why? Because cobber has no skin in this game. He and his are not in any danger. He's an armchair critic. After being up close and personal to the 1993 Trade Center bombing and subsequently 9/11, I learned a lot about armchair critics and their ease and spreading BS. It's just that. And it's inconsequential. |
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carbon20
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Missed you WM, |
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Technophobe
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Ditto. |
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ViQueen24
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+3. |
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WitchMisspelled
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Awwww thanks guys! That made me feel all warm and fuzzy! |
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Your very welcome......π |
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