As with anyone with this disease I do wish him and his wife a safe recovery.
But this will make the election process more interesting. What is the procedure if he becomes very ill, will his chosen running mate be the one to vote for (it seems too short to choose another candidate)?
The positive tests come just hours after the White House announced that senior aide Hope Hicks had come down with the virus after traveling with the president.
She is said to have first felt poorly on Wednesday, returning from Minnesota. Hicks was quarantined away from others on the plane and her diagnosis was confirmed Thursday, according to an administration official. But despite her symptoms as early as Wednesday evening Trump then continued with his schedule Thursday and traveled to and from Bedminster, New Jersey. He flew then back to the White House Thursday evening.
It is not known why the president's test took so long to come back. Trump only said he and Melania were were in quarantine on Thursday evening.
It should be pointed out that Hope Hicks HAS symptoms. Neither the President nor the First Lady report any symptoms.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
This morning it was announced that US President Trump has become infected with the corona virus. Trump has gone into home isolation with his wife Melania. His wax figure at Madame Tussauds in Amsterdam has now also been 'quarantined'. Equipped with a mouth mask, and shielded by yellow-black ribbons, the 'infected' Trump stands in front of the window on the Dam. 'Caution. Quarantine area ', is displayed on the window.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
I'm not. Trump will not miss this chance to spin it to being no worse than the common cold. That being said, I do not expect the severity to be released.
So now showing some symptoms, it is still early in the illness so things could change.
"BBC Live News" wrote:
Breaking Trump experiencing 'mild symptoms'
President Donald Trump is experiencing "mild symptoms" of Covid-19, the Associated Press and New York Times report, quoting an unnamed White House official.
As with anyone with this disease I do wish him and his wife a safe recovery.
But this will make the election process more interesting. What is the procedure if he becomes very ill, will his chosen running mate be the one to vote for (it seems too short to choose another candidate)?
I do not know what happens if a candidate dies before the election (speaking hypothetically here, of course). I would guess that his name would still be on the ballot as there is no longer time left to get it off. The assumption is that his VP would take office in his place.
I do know that the US Constitution provides for the case where the President elect dies before he/she can take office. In this case the Vice President Elect takes office as president.
If the candidate is only very sick, he would be the one to vote for. If he gets better, he becomes President, if he dies then his VP becomes president.
Thanks Little House. That does make sense, and seems geared for as much stability as possible,
I have read that the election could be delayed in BOTH houses agreed, but the Presidential term would end on the set date (to extend the term would need a change in the constitution with its 2/3rds majority - so basically that is not going to happen).
In the event of an illness (or worse) the VP/running mate would take over. There will be an election.
Pure conjecture on my part but with Trump NEVER having supported quarantine, and that fact that there is no talk of his scheduled rallies, my take on this is that if he's quarantined, and not tweeting about his upcoming Florida rallies then he is far more ill then we are being told.
In the event of an illness (or worse) the VP/running mate would take over. There will be an election.
Pure conjecture on my part but with Trump NEVER having supported quarantine, and that fact that there is no talk of his scheduled rallies, my take on this is that if he's quarantined, and not tweeting about his upcoming Florida rallies then he is far more ill then we are being told.
Yes, I agree, there will be an election. I just don’t see any scenario where it is delayed.
I also agree with you on the idea that he is pretty sick. My thought was that he has talked so often about the virus not being a big deal. He would want to play that up as much as possible, if he could. And at the same time, they don’t want to let the whole world know if he is really sick. So I would guess that no news is bad news.
Fortunately for Trump, however, his death or funeral have not actually appeared on the show throughout its 31-season run – and the image, which was widely shared online, was just manufactured to look like a shot from the iconic cartoon.
The fake originally appeared back in August and was for some reason interlinked with a viral conspiracy-spoof on TikTok, which promised that something important was about to happen on August 27. The image spread in conjunction with that theory, with many believing that the Simpsons had shown Trump dying on that date in one of its episodes.
While the Simpsons’ Trump death prediction is not real, the show has seemingly predicted the future on a few occasions. In one example, the episode ‘Marge in Chains’ began with the outbreak of an epidemic and ended with riots and vandalism, which bears a remarkable resemblance to the year 2020.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
President Donald Trump is being transported to Walter Reed Hospital in Maryland “for the next few days” after being diagnosed with the coronavirus, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said on Friday evening.
Ever since receiving a positive COVID-19 test result in the early hours of the morning, Trump has been recovering in the residence on the second floor of the presidential mansion. He began taking treatments today, according to a memo from the White House physician released by the press office.
“President Trump remains in good spirits, has mild symptoms, and has been working throughout the day,” McEnany said in a statement. “Out of an abundance of caution, and at the recommendation of his physician and medical experts, the President will be working from the presidential offices at Walter Reed for the next few days. President Trump appreciates the outpouring of support for both he and the First Lady.”
The drugs include an experimental antibody cocktail produced by Regeneron, which has shown promise in reducing the viral load in positive coronavirus patients and alleviating their symptoms, as well as zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and aspirin.
“He’s tired,” one source familiar with the matter told McClatchy. Trump has also developed a cough and a fever — two common symptoms of the coronavirus — according to media reports, and in the memo released by the White House, Trump’s physician Sean Conley described him as “fatigued but in good spirits.”
WHITE HOUSE SHAKEN
A White House that has for weeks been drifting away from established public health guidelines to control the spread of the coronavirus was shocked into action in the early hours of Friday morning by Trump’s diagnosis.
Several senior staff members decided on their own not to report for work in-person, and those who did show up began wearing masks in the tight quarters of the West Wing, where face coverings were mandatory only for a brief period last May after one of the first positive cases was identified in the building.
The news that the president and first lady Melania Trump were positive for COVID-19 – a disease that could hobble the first couple for weeks, just one month out from Election Day – was followed by a confirmation of several positive cases among individuals who have visited the White House or met with Trump over the past week.
The first lady “remains well with only a mild cough and headache,” the White House physician wrote.
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Contact tracers at the White House are now mapping out who infected individuals interacted with in recent days.Over months of study, scientists have reached a consensus that the disease could have an incubation period between two and 14 days after an individual has been infected.
While Trump has only mild symptoms for now, and first learned of his diagnosis early Friday morning, his staff is already acknowledging that the president is in several high risk categories, and may on the advice of his White House physician consider therapeutic drugs that could stave off a more seriousinfection.
The president, 74, is clinically overweight and has taken medicine to manage his cholesterol levels. Men and the elderly also face greater odds of serious cases or death from the coronavirus.
On average, individuals who get severe cases experience worsening health between five and 10 days from the onset of symptoms. Trump reportedly began feeling symptoms on Wednesday.
Before the president’s physician released an update, another White House official noted that Trump’s has previouslyexpressed a willingness to take Remdesivir, one of the few drugs that has a proven ability of lessening the severity of the disease in later stages. Trump this spring said he had taken hydroxychloroquine — a drug that the FDA has advised Americans not to take to treat the coronavirus — in the hopes that it would help him stave off infection.
Trump canceled a planned trip to Florida on Friday as well as all additional foreseeable travel, and had Vice President Mike Pence fill in for him on a call regarding COVID-19 support to vulnerable seniors.
White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told reporters that Trump was still working the phones during recovery, calling Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., after his diagnosis.
Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, would not speculate what types of therapies the president might consider now that he is battling the virus.
“He continues to be not only in good spirits but very energetic,” Meadows said.
“I’m not going to get into any particular treatment that he may or may not have. He has mild symptoms,” Meadows told reporters. “The doctors continue to monitor both his health and the health of the first lady.”
If any one has forgotten this is the man through his total lack of concern 207,000 souls have passed needlessly,how many desperate people seeking medical assistance was sent home,only told to come back when you can’t breathe and cyanotic or worst die at home. He does not deserve the over the top care he is receiving,Donnie, karma is a bitch,get to the back of the line!
If any one has forgotten this is the man through his total lack of concern 207,000 souls have passed needlessly,how many desperate people seeking medical assistance was sent home,only told to come back when you can’t breathe and cyanotic or worst die at home. He does not deserve the over the top care he is receiving,Donnie, karma is a bitch,get to the back of the line!
Pro tip bigger font doesn't make it true. So go ahead and cite articles, studies where all these people are being turned away from treatment and dying. They are not. The hospitals are not overwhelmed. In fact if you are uninsured the US government picks up the cost of treatment and care for COVID.
WASHINGTON — Uninsured Americans will be able to seek coronavirus treatment for free, with the federal government agreeing to cover hospitals’ expenses, President Trump announced Friday.
The provision will be covered by a $100 billion fund for healthcare providers that was part of a historic enormous $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package passed by Congress last month.
I believe in Karma, but I also know that bad things happen to good people. I also would never ever wish death or pain on anyone even my worst enemies. But again I do believe in Karma. I do hope that they fully recover, but I also hope they learn a lesson. One can hope!!
I am an infectious disease specialist with extensive medical training....I predict, here and now, that Trump is going to suffer a stroke initiated by SARS-CoV2. This virus has some nasty circulatory system effects and is implicated in causing strokes.
Watch for it. I think that is why they moved him to Walter Reed Hospital so quickly.
Trouble signs include fever, shortness of breath and fatigue. As the virus infection ramps up, his body may become overwhelmed - this would include a cytokine storm in his lung tissue, tiny blood clots causing stroke and heart problems, kidney failure and other effects.
It is telling that they immediately began slamming his body with unproven/experimental therapies (polyclonal antibodies and remdesivir). I think they assume that, due to his likely exposure history (especially to Hope Hicks) and age/comorbid status, he received a high viral load and will have an accelerated disease course.
I've read that his risk of death is 5% to 20%, which is considerable.
The BBC is reporting that the White House tried to hid the news of Trump going to hospital. I suspect that if there is bad news (ie the condition gets more serious) then the authorities will try to slow its release.
But at least he was able to walk to and from the helicopter.
News about the president's visit to the hospital leaked accidentally - by someone who sent an email before reading it.
I am an infectious disease specialist with extensive medical training....I predict, here and now, that Trump is going to suffer a stroke initiated by SARS-CoV2. This virus has some nasty circulatory system effects and is implicated in causing strokes.
Watch for it. I think that is why they moved him to Walter Reed Hospital so quickly.
Be safe, Chuck
I'd be surprised if they didn't have him on Heparin or Warfarin or some other heavy duty blood thinner.
I was interested to learn they had him on melatonin. That's a new one on me. Any insight to that, Chuck?
This article summarizes the likely benefits of melatonin in the attenuation of COVID-19 based on its putative pathogenesis. The recent outbreak of COVID-19 has become a pandemic with tens of thousands of infected patients. Based on clinical features, pathology, the pathogenesis of acute respiratory disorder induced by either highly homogenous coronaviruses or other pathogens, the evidence suggests that excessive inflammation, oxidation, and an exaggerated immune response very likely contribute to COVID-19 pathology. This leads to a cytokine storm and subsequent progression to acute lung injury (ALI)/acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and often death. Melatonin, a well-known anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidative molecule, is protective against ALI/ARDS caused by viral and other pathogens. Melatonin is effective in critical care patients by reducing vessel permeability, anxiety, sedation use, and improving sleeping quality, which might also be beneficial for better clinical outcomes for COVID-19 patients. Notably, melatonin has a high safety profile. There is significant data showing that melatonin limits virus-related diseases and would also likely be beneficial in COVID-19 patients. Additional experiments and clinical studies are required to confirm this speculation.
Upon seeing that, I decided to add it to my arsenal.
Thanks for that ViQueen! Better look up the dosage, ViQueen. I use melatonin when I have trouble sleeping but it's a tiny dose - 1.5mg.
But it's interesting to note doctors are treating him as a severely ill patient. The question is: Is he severely ill? Or are doctors trying to stave off severe illness? If the latter, is it an effective treatment? I know Resdemisvir is approved by the FDA for trials. Not proven.
I think for right now, it's prophylactic, but it's hard to tell. I'm sure his doctors have thought of what Chuck has said and it could be they are trying all these treatments to see if they work, and if there are side effects. If no side effects, and if the Covid hasn't ramped up, they may send him home and continue treatment there. I believe he's supposed to be released in the next day or two. If he's not, that will tell a different story. The timeline is something we can't be sure of. Supposedly, he was asymptomatic as late as yesterday morning, but I read a report that his staffers felt he was a bit off as early as Wednesday, and he cut an appearance short at 75 minutes. I doubt we'll ever know the truth.
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