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ME163
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I have been watching this thread with dread as our local government lifted all restrictions on movement or masks. 37 percent of our county is fully vaccinated and they are reaching what is known as vaccine hesitancy. The rest of them won't get the vaccine. So, we will be left with no way to reach herd immunity or to end this pandemic. It is a hard core bunch of trumpers that won't get the shot despite of the efforts of many incentives. We will have a slow motion pandemic of death that will strangle any efforts to get to herd immunity. take care, be careful. |
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ViQueen24
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I think they're nuts and I'm glad you're being careful! |
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you are not worried for nothing! People were acting this way with NO vaccines so imagine how they will behave after one and then both of them! People are crazy! |
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Stupidity is universal. I am sorry you have to live so close to it. Tabitha. |
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Tabitha111
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Here at my retirement living community: The dining room is completely open and there is no more getting meal delivery to your apartment from the onsite kitchen. Of course you can do your own thing with outside ordering or microwaving a frozen dinner, etc if you wish- but part of what we pay for here is the chef and meals. I am a bit nervous at mealtimes since its over 100 people in there and you hear folks coughing all the time and do they even cover thier mouths- NOPE- grown ups that can not even cover thier mouths when they cough up a lung....ugh ...gets on my last nerve. I sit alone. I prefer it at the moment. I eat my meal and then high tail it out of there. Now, this is interesting- but there is a special table set aside for all the folks (8 of them ) who did not get the vaccine. Its what I call "outer Sibera" they have to sit farther away from us. Don't really know what that will accomplish, esp. when one server in particular who wears her mask on her chin- didn't get vaccinated either and she is all up in our faces serving food, etc. btw - she did get Covid at the beginning of this, so maybe she feels immune? Not really loving all the science deniers here and folks that want to pretend we are back to normal....what do you all think of all this? |
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Tabitha111
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Awesome chart. |
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Good chart. |
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I just saw this. I have no idea where to put it. It occured to me you could print it and stick it to your door Tabitha,. It is unlikely to effect a sea change, but maybe a couple of your neighbours will understand it. How Masks And Social Distancing Works
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Tabitha111
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Today I was picked to do the Crossword game in our retirement community- where you stand up at this board and call out the clues and others call out the words....of course I am double masked...and I felt like I was going to have a riot on my hands because everyone wanted me to take off my mask (!!) so they could hear me better- ummmm nope - I shouted literally as loud as I could - one lady said "I won't be coming back until we don't have to wear masks any longer!" oh did I mention that they ALL took off their masks but for a few to play the game...First time and last time I will be hosting that...I was going stir crazy here in my apartment so I ventured down and wow...we get our second Moderna vaccine on Saturday...BUT there are quite a few here who have not and will not get the vaccine- and a few are residents and a few are staff!! (p.s. see Josh's recent entry re: new varient in a nursing home- I am not stupid!) |
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I am starting to believe in the conspiracy theory that there is something in the water that makes people stupid. STOOPID! |
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Tabitha111
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I knew it! LOL...gotta laugh, because what else can you do? So, we all got vaccinated today with our first shot...went down to pick up a package and in our game room there sits 6 ladies with NO masks on right next to each other playing cards while staff just wanders around oblivious. I knew this was going to happen. Hopefully we stay lucky under these circumstances. One lady went in to hug one of the directors saying "now we can hug again" and the director was like "oh noooo....not until two weeks after your second shot". Do people just not know better? Do they think that today we are 100 % protected and life goes back to normal? |
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Tabitha111
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Just got the Moderna jab about a half hour ago here at my Retirement Community. Did not like the way they organized it here at all. Family members were allowed to sign up too (that was fine by me) but the thing is- for FOUR hours they were all packed into one room waiting for the shots with residents. Residents were first - so that was 125 of us- then family...some even brought their kids! (not to get shots, but to mingle and run around and wait with them) I saw zero social distancing and lots of gaitor type masks and lots of noses poking out, and what I never understand is how staff NEEDS to pull down their masks to speak to you...its nuts. I waited in my apartment until the very end- then went down quickly and got it over with- still heaps of folks hanging out in a small unventilated space. I was the only one double masked and with a shield. I even saw one resident pull his mask down to cough loudly into the room of people....it boggles my mind. |
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Tabitha111
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I am probably worried for nothing- but I can't help but feel that right after we all get the first shot of the vaccine here- people will feel that we are immune right away and start acting like it. |
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ViQueen24
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Grrrr is right, Tabitha. How scary and frustrating! |
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Not everyone is as well clued-up as you Tabitha (their fault) and not as smart either (you can't fix stupid). |
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Tabitha111
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GRRRR....the resident with Covid here was hospitalized, I have heard she is out of the hospital and her daughter is looking for somewhere to "place her". I guess a rehab type place? |
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ViQueen24
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I don't blame you. It is an unsafe situation either way. Push is coming to shove. I pray that your health department will do what needs to be done. Hang in there. You are taking every possible precaution to protect yourself. You are in my prayers! |
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Tabitha111
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One of my neighbors (who feels like I do) is calling the local health department today. Like you said, I don't want to be the informer around here. |
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ViQueen24
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Tabitha, please, contact a Representative or maybe the media in your locality, or both. I know you're afraid of being exposed as the informant, but seriously, things are becoming life and death now. |
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Dutch Josh
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In NL there is a saying "The shore has to stop the ship" (de wal moet het schip keren)...If people do not stop corona, corona will stop people...But it is sad it has to go that way... |
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There may be another name in the states for them, but over here they are called: "draught excluders". Sadly, your position has been vindicated, Tabitha. For God's sake, don't let your guard down now. |
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Tabitha111
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It was only a matter of time: we now have a resident with Covid. This particular person gets together after hours (staff goes home at 7 pm) to play cards in the library with a group of other residents. I have seen them when I first moved in and none of them wear masks when playing cards! All of the card players are in quarantine in their rooms. |
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Tabitha111
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The director called me yesterday to ask if I would be a "mentor" to the other residents and help them with certain things computer related- that corporate picked two people in the community to do this to help them with surveys and such...I had to say no- and I told him my reasons- most residents don't wear masks properly or at all and I can not sit next to them at a computer because of that -(never mind that we would not be physically distanced!) I told him I was very covid aware and I would be telling them "pull your mask up" or "go put a mask on" .....he understood. |
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roni3470
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Our in-door dining just opened last week at a 25% capacity(Colorado). I run into more people at the grocery so its not too concerning at this point but the push is to continue to open. I wouldn't go to a restaurant right now at full capacity, no way! |
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Tabitha - I'd be furious if I were you. I think you've shown an incredible amount of restraint. |
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ViQueen24
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Maybe you can talk to your Representative and they could do something? |
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Tabitha111
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I really don't understand this place- tomorrow they are increasing the indoor dining capacity to 33 again. They sent out a paper for all of us, I believe its to make this place "look good" - saying we are lifting some restrictions here....unbelievable when cases are rising and out of control in our city...when we just had a staff member with Covid...when the director wears a gaiter style mask that does no good, and another staff member wears her mask below her chin... |
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Tabitha111
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They prepare all meals and deliver them to your apartment if you choose not to go to the dining room.
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Sorry in advance for being pragmatic, Tabitha (love that name,reminds me of one of my favourite TV shows,"Bewitched") In anyway does the place you live in benifit if the residents die......? Sorry to ask ,but the behaviour you discribe is like they want people to get infected..... Take care all 😷😉 |
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Do you do your own cooking, or do they bring up your meals, Tabitha? |
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Tabitha111
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AND..... We have another Covid + staff member! |
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
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roni3470
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The people in my neighborhood in Colorado are having an Elf crawl this weekend. Its about 50 people, going from house to house eating and drinking. No masks, no social distancing. One of my friends said, "well, half of the people going have already had it" We are not going. We are doing our part to stay away. None of us have been sick at our house including the usual bronchitis we get in the winter. I wish everyone had the same common sense! |
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Tabitha, it's the same way every where, that's why our country is in the state it is in. I go to work, which I'm Native American and work for my Tribe and they are VERY strict about the masks. They even provide them. But I go to the grocery store once a week and half the people are not wearing masks, it's not mandatory in our state, only in certain towns. It's ridiculous. |
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Grrr. How infuriating! |
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Tabitha111
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I go downstairs to the main lobby to pick up mail....what do I see....and why doesn't the staff tell these folks??? I see a lady who has just been discharged from the HOSPITAL from surgery then went to a Rehab cener -hip surgery I overhear- well...she was ...talking up a storm to the front desk lady with NO MASK on. |
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Sorry if off topic,just reading this, seemed relevant..... DW (English): American evangelicals and the resistance to COVID vaccines. https://dw.com/p/3mnD1?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews |
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Having been on this site for a few years, and disscused many things, I never in my wildest scenarios, dreamed that people would not believe it's happening,when it is...... I"ve had people scoff at the idea of a pandemic when I mentioned it.... I am absolutely gobsmacked that people still denying this is happening even after 300,000 DEAD in the USA alone.........countries going into lock down all over the World..... I'm so proud of my fellow AUSSIES...... Take care all 😷😷😷😷😉 |
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I second that! DITTO! |
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You apparently are the only sane one in there. I'm so sorry you're surrounded by imbeciles. HUGS. |
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Tabitha111
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Is there a pandemic going on? I don't think the residents here think so! |
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It's official. NYC's infection rate has caused Cuomo to close all indoor dining starting Monday. |
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Tabitha111
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Thank you! I know I am not crazy. LOL.....there happens to be a woman who resides here who fancies herself a world class singer and she is always in the atrium singing at the top of her lungs (with no mask of course) to all the Christmas Carols. She is very good but...I shudder when I have to go down there to pick up my mail or a package and she is there singing. Avoid Avoid!! |
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Tabitha, Things are crazy at your place. Do not, for one minute, even think that you are the crazy one. It is easy to start to doubt yourself when everyone else is doing what you want to be doing (but know better). Hang in there, and know that this is not forever. There will be a day when you can go down and enjoy the singing. A day when you can make new friends in the dining room. The day is coming, but it is not here yet. I keep seeing all of these crazy things going on there and know that on some level any normal person would wonder if maybe they were over doing it. You are not. You are not being paranoid, you are being safe. Keep up the good work. |
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