Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
Australia: Brisbane outbreak,most likely Airborne |
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carbon20
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Posted: January 14 2021 at 2:54pm |
ABC News: Coronavirus spread at Brisbane's Hotel Grand Chancellor 'most likely' from airborne transmission, experts warn. |
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ABC News: Experts call on Federal Government to acknowledge possible airborne transmission of COVID-19 in hotel quarantine. |
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It always was airborne; it's a coronavirus; they all are. This still does not make it a slate-wiper. But it does make the need for vaccines WORLDWIDE very urgent. https://www.atzlabs.com/pdf/Airborne-microbe-list.pdf |
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It was droplet and not airborne now people need Duckbill Virus masks and not ordinary surgical masks Droplet transmission is infection spread through exposure to virus-containing respiratory droplets (i.e., larger and smaller droplets and particles) exhaled by an infectious person. Transmission is most likely to occur when someone is close to the infectious person, generally within about 6 feet. Airborne transmission is defined as the spread of an infectious agent caused by the dissemination of droplet nuclei (aerosols) that remain infectious when suspended in air over long distances and time. |
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[url]https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-face-mask-face-shield-ffp2-n95-kn95-whats-the-difference/a-52291265[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-face-mask-face-shield-ffp2-n95-kn95-whats-the-difference/a-52291265 DJ-All of Germany may see FFP2 masks mandatory in public transport and shops. They offer better protection. (DJ-but are part of a protocol-keep distance, ventilate, wash hands-in lots of places you can not have visits at your home...) |
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Kilt5
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yeah sure but going through the air conditioner from room to room infecting people? |
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Dutch Josh
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Has happened more often...not new..still not good though ! Certainly if you isolate people in a hotel one should check the ventilation system. People may take legal steps against the government for not providing a safe place for quarantine. Also "parking people" before you let them into your country has some other-manageable risks-workers/security may get infected/spread infection. NPI etc are not 100%, vaccines may be 95%...this is an imperfect world... Stay safe ! |
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The line between "droplet infection" and "airborne infection" is not a hard and fast one. It is a bit fuzzy. The classification of airborne is generally applied to bugs which can survive outside the body long enough to travel in wafted air. Enveloped viruses like coronavirus fit this bill perfectly. Air conditioning will do that very well indeed for all of them. A more rigid classification of airborne is sometimes applied to those bugs, and only those bugs, which come from the upper respiratory tract, and therefore travel further in human breath. This does not apply to covid19 which is a lower respiratory tract infection. Better quality masks DO provide better protection for the wearer. That does not mean that even a cheap bit of scarf does not make a big difference, nor that ANY mask provides complete protection. However it is bad practice generally to let the quest for the perfect get in the way of use of the good. Finally, mask wearing is a public health measure. If everyone wore masks religiously, the spread would be limited. Each person would get a small amount of protection from their own mask and a great deal from their neighbours'. |
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Ro number seems too low for true airborne. Measles is true airborne and in a susceptible population with no vaccine coverage its Ro is 18. That's each person infects 18 others. Obviously we dont see that so often in developed countries as the majority are vaccinated. High Ro needs high level of vaccinated individuals for herd Immunity. Measles needs 95% to 97% of population to be vaccinated or we start seeing rapid outbreaks. Hz x |
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