Delta Virus

CRS, DrPH...I also did find names like "Wobke Lindelsee" that kind of names is from [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesland[/url].......You also have [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Frisian_Peninsula[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Frisian_Peninsula and [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordfriesland_(district)[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordfriesland_(district) -even parts of west Danmark are seen as (in history) part of "Friesland"...

In the 19th century agricultural revolution meant a lot of jobs were lost in these parts of the country. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_diaspora[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_diaspora (Wiki does not (yet) include the Frisian diaspora after the 1890 agriculture crisis and the 1929 global economy crisis).

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisian_Americans[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisian_Americans ; 

In the New Netherland colony, Frisian people from North Frisia, East Frisia and West Friesland were the largest ethnic group in the city of New Amsterdam which later became New York City.^[3] The New Amsterdam area was chiefly explored by one Jonas Bronk who led a group of settlers from North Frisia, and the region was later named The Bronx after him.^[3] Bronk (also known as Bronck) himself is said to have been either Danish or Swedish.^[4][5] Many North-Frisian settlers were refugees of the Burchardi flood of 1634 which had destroyed the wealthy island of Strand. According to Paulsen, "they introduced their old democratic traditions into the patrician Dutch society of that time."^[3]

Because there is no modern united Frisian state, Frisian Americans are often included within Dutch Americans, German Americans or Scandinavian Americans

DJ Can I think of a link with this pandemic ? Often people want to visit family that did not migrate, look for roots...We have an Open Air Museum here [url]https://www.openluchtmuseum.nl/ontdek?taal=en[/url] or https://www.openluchtmuseum.nl/ontdek?taal=en in a normal year over 60% of the visitors is not from NL but often with NL roots...

Hi DJ!  I was always told that Grandpa Lindelsee was Dutch!  Who knows?  My genome is comprised of Dutch (maybe), German, Irish, Slovak components!  Typical American mongrel.  

CRS,DrPH- Since I am NOT an expert "just" following the story I know there is a risk of me wrinting (to much) non-sense. I try to limit that...try to check it...But there is an "ocean of info" and not all of it is directing in the same directions...

Wishfull thinking is only human. I wish we were out of this pandemic, in many ways living with this pandemic is getting exhausting...

"Lindelsee" to be honest sounds more German...[url]https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=lindelsee[/url] or https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=lindelsee there are lotst of paid data-geneology sites-often asking money for info that is available for free elsewere...But some Germans first lived in NL then moved further...(Gilbert N. ???)

[url]https://stadsarchief.rotterdam.nl/zoek-en-ontdek/passagierslijsten/[/url] or https://stadsarchief.rotterdam.nl/zoek-en-ontdek/passagierslijsten/ has names of passengers on the Holland America Line...[url]https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/[/url] or https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/ has lists of people getting into the US (my grandfather is on that list for 1907...he returned a few years later to NL...) ...

When I think of the US maybe 10% of US "culture" maybe from NL...certainly in New York State...Dutch was spoken/used till the end of the 19th century at public places (churches, some schools, but also some basic bookkeeping was in Dutch...Martin van Buren [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Van_Buren[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Van_Buren was born in a place called "Kinderhook" (In Dutch it would be "Kinderhoek") [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinderhook_(town),_New_York[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinderhook_(town),_New_York 

Of course [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee#Dutch_origin[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee#Dutch_origin ; 

Most linguists look to Dutch language sources, noting the extensive interaction between the Dutch colonists in New Netherland (now largely New York, New Jersey, Delaware, and western Connecticut) and the English colonists in New England (Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and eastern Connecticut).^[8] The exact application, however, is uncertain; some scholars suggest that it was a term used in derision of the Dutch colonists, others that it was derisive of the English colonists.

Michael Quinion and Patrick Hanks argue that the term comes from the Dutch name Janneke, a diminutive form of Jan (John)^[13] which would be Anglicized as "Yankee" due to the Dutch pronunciation of J as the English Y. Quinion and Hanks posit that it was "used as a nickname for a Dutch-speaking American in colonial times" and could have grown to include non-Dutch colonists, as well.^[13] The Oxford English Dictionary calls this theory "perhaps the most plausible".

Alternatively, the Dutch given names Jan (Dutch: [jɑn]) and Kees (Dutch: [keːs]) have long been common, and the two are sometimes combined into a single name (Jan Kees). Its Anglicized spelling Yankee could, in this way, have been used to mock Dutch colonists. The chosen name Jan Kees may have been partly inspired by a dialectal rendition of Jan Kaas ("John Cheese"), the generic nickname that Southern Dutch used for Dutch people living in the North.^[14]

The Online Etymology Dictionary gives its origin as around 1683, when English colonists used it insultingly in reference to Dutch colonists (especially freebooters. Linguist Jan de Vries notes that there was mention of a pirate named Dutch Yanky in the 17th century.^[15] The Life and Adventures of Sir Launcelot Greaves (1760) contains the passage, "Haul forward thy chair again, take thy berth, and proceed with thy story in a direct course, without yawing like a Dutch yanky."^[16] According to this theory, Dutch settlers of New Amsterdam started using the term against the English colonists of neighboring Connecticut.^[14]

Is just one of many examples of NL-US links...

DJ-From the article;

“A virus just can’t change a couple amino acids and completely evade the totality of the immune response,” said virologist Angela Rasmussen of the University of Saskatchewan’s Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization, referring to the building blocks that make up the virus.

Our first line of defenders is antibodies, some of which are trained to recognize specific pieces of the virus and prevent it from infecting cells. If mutations change those components — akin to putting on a fake mustache and sunglasses — then perhaps the antibodies geared to identify the virus’ upper lip or eyes might be fooled. The virus could gain a toehold and start an infection. But the vaccines have primed our bodies to recognize other parts of the virus, and to have waves of responders. Antibodies that latch on to other parts of the virus could kick in, and immune cells that help clear out infections before they cause much damage could arrive as reinforcements.

Maybe that should be the biggest worry; If you compare the virus-RNA string with a worm. The part that is "biting/infecting" us may now be in the front...but it could develop all over the strain...

To compare the RNA-string further with a worm...it's "teeth" may be even at different locations. The worm has to put itself in a certain position to form a "mouth" to be able to bite...

So far this virus has been so full of surprises it is very likely to develop towards getting "more agressive" (Also UK-SAGE study goes in that direction). 

The changes go further than a "fake mustache and sunglasses"-it could develop a different face...not recognizable for the immune system. (In a bizarre comparison it would be a person that changed his head...). 

In my opinion the risks for a resistant variant are increasing. Wishfull thinking does not help ! Delta has a R0 of between 5 and 8-vaccines in combination with strong restrictions may get the R0 under 1...stop the spread. Vaccines to give up on restrictions is bagging for new-worse-variants (with a R0 towards 12...). 

"Living with the variant" is like living with a wildfire hoping rain will stop it before it reaches your house...I know going for restrictions is a very hard way to go...not doing so may show itself-very likely within six months-still to be a worse choice. 

I am NOT an expert...just trying to make sense. Summer 2020 did not save us, vaccines did not get us out of this pandemic...False promisses, wishfull thinking, is not helping in any crisis. 

When you look at history the pandemic triangle; disease-hosts-spread has a much higher "spread" factor now...Covid19 would proberbly stayed very limited-maybe not noticed-if it was in 1519 not in 2019...Spread is the motor behind this pandemic-also making the disease more infectious. Part 3-hosts-so far is only limited to human hosts...

[url]https://twitter.com/DFisman[/url] or https://twitter.com/DFisman ;

Sharing this via twitter because I think it's in the public interest to know: we now have enough delta cases in kids, and enough pediatric hospitalizations in Ontario, that we can estimate the odds ratio for hospitalization with delta.  It is increased, OR = 2.75 (1.59 to 4.49)

[url]https://twitter.com/HurleyOCHUCUPE/status/1425951449348034560[/url] or https://twitter.com/HurleyOCHUCUPE/status/1425951449348034560 ;

Premier Ford visited St. Joseph’s hospital in Hamilton to thank front line health care workers for their contribution during the pandemic. While the thanks are kind, his government’s real wage cuts for hospital workers for the next 3 years are not. Breathtaking insincerity.

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Last 7 days 39,767 new child Covid cases, England. One year ago 799 Last 7 days 278 admitted to hospital with Covid One year ago 16 Last 7 days an extra 1,750 may suffer #LongCovidKids One year ago 35

DJ Here in NL R0 has been going up...from 0,79 to 0,87 representing the R0 of july 29...so by now the R0 in NL most likely above 1...Still schools soon will reopen without good ventilation, social distancing, masks, testing, .....criminal !

Yep!  I have always sympathised with Cassandra;  never so much as now though.

[url]https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-s-coronavirus-cabinet-set-to-debate-more-restrictions-as-serious-cases-rise-1.10019684[/url] or https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-s-coronavirus-cabinet-set-to-debate-more-restrictions-as-serious-cases-rise-1.10019684 ; 

According to the latest Health Ministry figures from Thursday morning, the number of COVID-19 patients in serious condition is now at 72, nine up from Wednesday's figure.

There are also more patients on life support, going from 12 on Wednesday to 15.

A total of 145 Israeli COVID-19 patients are currently hospitalized.

Israel confirmed 1,336 new cases on Wednesday, with the rate of positive tests largely unchanged, at 1.74 percent. Of the confirmed carriers, 52 percent are fully vaccinated, and 38 percent are 18 or younger.

Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz said on Wednesday "We understand that the coronavirus isn't going anywhere soon. Our strategy is clear – live with the coronavirus."

Horowitz said the next school year will open "in full" thanks, in part, to rapid home testing authorities plan to make widely available.

The director-general of the Health Ministry, Prof. Nachman Ash, said on Wednesday that the ministry supports taking “immediate steps” to stop the spread of the virus.

In an interview with Israeli news website Ynet, Ash said that although the number of critically ill patients remains relatively low, "it’s best to act now. It will be difficult to stop once we reach larger numbers."

DJ-Allthough Israel testing of Pfizer against Delta may not be according to international testing protocol; [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/israel-finds-pfizer-jab-only-39-effective-stopping-delta-variant[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/israel-finds-pfizer-jab-only-39-effective-stopping-delta-variant ; Over the past month, Israel, the world's most heavily vaccinated country (with leading mRNA jabs, no less) has seen the number of positive COVID tests has risen by more than 30x as the number of active infections in the country has surpassed 10K.

 Meanwhile, the Israeli Health Ministry, which has previously estimated the true efficacy of the Pfizer jab against the delta variant at only 64% (while still more than 90% effective at preventing serious illness and death), just released new data purporting to show that while the Pfizer jab is still 88% effective at preventing serious illness, it's only 39% effective at preventing infection with delta.

Alex Berenson, a former NYT journalist who has often reported on scientific findings that don't support the official narrative on masks and vaccines, shared the findings in a tweet, and speculated that the true efficacy in offering protection against the Delta variant might be even lower - perhaps as low as 30%.

DJ UK testing shows-still-a higher level of protection from Pfizer...only the UK used most Astra Zeneca vaccines...Israel used most Pfizer vaccines ! So I take these Israeli stories very serious !

It is very likely SEVERAL variants may become "very good" in evading immunity...NOT stopping virus spread is speeding up vaccine escape mutations. 

Vaccinated people will more often get severe symptoms and long covid. 

It is an illusion we could "vaccinate ourselves" out of a pandemic without also NPI. 

On the longer term maybe new vaccines may offer some perspectives ? Then in combination with lots of restrictions etc ? 

This may take years....Governments should prepare the general public for "long term pandemic"...(DJ-It is good there is internet etc...). 

Reading this past Sunday's local newspaper, came across the obit of an ex-boyfriend of mine. He was only 58. A Virginia Beach police officer, died of Covid on the fourth of July.
According to Facebook posts he was unvaccinated due to his political beliefs!! SMH
His present girlfriend was also hospitalized with Covid, she is an oncology nurse of all things, unvaxxed! She was released two days before he passed away.
Such preventable circumstances!
Btw, they both had the Delta varient.

The problem is with this being a novel virus we just don't know what the timescale is with either natural immunity, vaccine related immunity or with the evolution of the virus. History will look back at this, much like we do with the Spanish Flu of 1918, and comment on our successes and failures but at the moment we're literally flying blind.

[url]https://www.timesofisrael.com/data-appears-to-indicate-covid-vaccine-protection-starts-fading-after-6-months/[/url] or https://www.timesofisrael.com/data-appears-to-indicate-covid-vaccine-protection-starts-fading-after-6-months/ ;

Most of the vaccinated people who have been recently infected got the shot around January, figures given to Health Ministry show; some caution it’s too early to draw conclusions.

There is a growing correlation between vaccinated Israelis who have been infected with the Delta variant of the coronavirus and those who were among the first to get the vaccine, possibly indicating that the vaccine’s protection fades over time, a report said Sunday.

However, some experts working with the Health Ministry cautioned that it was too early to draw conclusions, since the sample size was too small and those who were vaccinated first are mostly the elderly, who have a weaker immune system to begin with.

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In Israel, the first to get the shot were mainly people over the age of 70, who are more vulnerable to COVID-19.

But Haas believes that even when controlling for age and other factors, the main reason for the renewed outbreak is that the vaccine’s protection fades over time, not that the Delta strain bypasses it.

DJ-Vaccines offering less protection due to time NOT variant....in older people with a less effective immune system. 

If time is a factor we will learn that in other countries...could be a mix of variants getting better in evading (older) vaccines in certain age groups-so they become less protected by the vaccines. A booster shot could then be usefull.

I doubt if it was a deliberate release.  If hastening the demise of Western Civilization was their goal, they lose.  Their vaxxes don't seem to be as effective as ours and more of them are dying therefore.  As Carbon said, the people who are dying over here at present are the unvaxxed.  Natural selection.  Hopefully that trend will continue through any and all variants, if necessary, with the assistance of booster shots.

I tend to agree with your hypothesis,

I think that governments have now  provided the vaccine,and now with X amount  have been vaccinated they will say,we have done our best now it's up to you..... .

I don't agree that it's a deliberate release,

But I think after 2 years we have to open up and take our chances,if you haven't been vaccinated well that's YOUR FAULT.....

So go get a shot,

Seems like the chumps supporter's are still anti Vax.....

Well that's tough and natural selection is invoked......

The variants have me concerned......

And we will have to have boosters every 6/12 months.....

But as Jackdad said months ago this is a "slow burn" virus.....

Take care all 😷😉

DJ-[url]https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-confirms-vaccine-less-effective-against-delta-variant-eyes-third-dose/[/url] or https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-confirms-vaccine-less-effective-against-delta-variant-eyes-third-dose/ 

Israel cases up +88%...last week 1,206-this week 2,269-deaths stay low...[url]https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general[/url] or https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general showing increase of severe disease (translate not doing the best job..).

[url]https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/covid-infections-in-israel-spike-by-50-percent-1.9973150[/url] or https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/covid-infections-in-israel-spike-by-50-percent-1.9973150 ; Forty-two percent of Israelis who caught COVID on Monday were vaccinated, spurring concerns over the efficacy of the vaccine against the highly contagious delta variant

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Of the new infections, 31 recently returned from abroad and the rest were infected via community transmission. The R number, the average number of secondary infections from a single person, currently stands at 1.43.

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The morbidity rate among children aged 0-11 has also quadrupled in the last week. The number of cases in this age group in Tel Aviv constitutes almost a third of the total morbidity of the age group across the country. In contrast, there was no significant increase in morbidity among youths aged 12-18.

DJ-Israel is top in vaccinations (most Pfizer-but the differences between vaccines may be limited). Of course under 12 y/o often are not vaccinated...but they were supposed not to get very ill...

UK-[url]https://www.rt.com/uk/528432-england-covid-lockdown-exit-johnson/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS[/url] or https://www.rt.com/uk/528432-england-covid-lockdown-exit-johnson/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS ; 

Johnson said England was still seeing a rising number of Covid-19 infections and hospital admissions, warning that there could be 50,000 cases per day by July 19.

“We must reconcile ourselves sadly to more deaths from Covid,” he said, adding that the government must take a “careful and balanced” decision on restrictions.

Johnson said he expects the government will be able to lift the majority of remaining restrictions on July 19, with a review of the latest health data set for July 12.

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Speaking alongside the PM on Monday, England’s chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty warned of the potential pressure Covid-19 may place on the National Health Service (NHS) next winter. “This coming winter may be very difficult for the NHS, and I don’t think that’s a particularly controversial point,” he said.

On Monday the UK reported a further nine deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid test, and more than 27,000 new infections. The current rate of infection is 230 per 100,000 people, and in the last seven days there has been a 50% increase in new cases compared to the previous week, according to the latest government data.

DJ The UK is also supposed to be among the best protected countries...[url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/#weekly_table cases up +54%, deaths +5%...Coming winter "getting very difficult" statement in july by a Professor should be seen as a major warning ! 

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant ; On 25 June 2021, Public Health England issued Technical Briefing 17 on SARS-CoV-2 variants, documenting 32 deaths among 11,250 UK cases of SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant with 28 days follow-up with a fatality rate of 0.3%. This is similar to recent cases of the Alpha variant. These fatality rates are lower than the average fatality rate of 1.9%, presumably due to the now relative high percentage of the more vulnerable in England.^[9][18] However, the real issue is the relative growth rate of 0.93/week, resulting in a per week relative growth factor of exp(0.93)=2.5 with respect to the Alpha variant. This results, under the same infection prevention measures, in a much greater case load over time until a large fraction of people have been infected by it.

 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2#Delta_(lineage_B.1.617.2)[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2#Delta_(lineage_B.1.617.2) ; 

On 3 June 2021, Public Health England reported that twelve of the 42 deaths from the Delta variant in England were among the fully vaccinated, and that it was spreading almost twice as fast as the Alpha variant.^[129] Also on 11 June, Foothills Medical Centre in Calgary, Canada reported that half of their 22 cases of the Delta variant occurred among the fully vaccinated.^[130]

In June 2021, reports began to appear of a variant of Delta with the K417N mutation dubbed the "Nepal variant".^[131] The mutation, also present in the Beta variant, has raised concerns about the possibility of reduced effectiveness of vaccines and antibody treatments and increased risk of reinfection.^[132] The variant, called "Delta with K417N" by Public Health England, includes two clades corresponding to the Pango lineages AY.1 and AY.2.^[133] It has been nicknamed "Delta plus"^[134] from "Delta plus K417N".^[135] On 22 June, India's Ministry of Health and Family Welfare declared the "Delta plus" variant of COVID-19 a Variant of Concern after 22 cases of the variant were reported in India.^[136] After the announcement, leading virologists said there was insufficient data to support labelling the strain as a distinct variant of concern, pointing to the small number of patients studied

DJ-India cases -12% deaths -33%...but the numbers may be "political manipulated"...

Also in NL some cases of people catching infection after fully vaccination did show up. But still limited and not yet clear enough...

Edwin, Techno, I applaud you.  It is good to state the obvious, just in case it is not obvious to someone who may be reading.  But as far as the one your replies were specifically addressed to:

Our vaccination rates are very high (80+%) yet our infection rates are still soaring (26 thousand today) but happily our death rate remains very low (22 today).  Our vaccines seem to be doing the trick - but doing the trick in preventing deaths, not preventing infections.  Yet our general population seem to think they are free of the damn bug!  Not sick is not the same as no risk to others.

So it makes a great deal of sense to ban us from other countries.  We are at risk of infecting and killing all unvaccinated people; in some countries that is almost everyone!  

We really need to ring bells and to shout: "Unclean!" as we walk by - as lepers did in times gone by.

Technophobe wrote: Cobber, the Delta variant is about as deadly as the flu, but it is FAR more contagious.  So it actually kills far more than the flu.   The damage done by a contagion is due to its mortality and its transmissability.  The drop in death rate is from vaccination, not a less deadly variant.  The Delta variant is actually more deadly than the original strain. Do you need this in words of one syllable?  This bug kills like flu.  More folk get this bug than get the flu.  So this bug kills lots more folk than the flu.  Masks and jabs help fight this bug.  If we stop their use, it will kill lots more.  This bug makes folk sick for a long time too and that is bad. This new bug type is worse than the old bug was.   OK?  Do you get it now?

Why bother Techno,

Falling on DEAF EARS ......

Rather listen to a dog bark all night....

Take care all 😷😉

From the report that Cobber referred to [https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/997418/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf]  I notice that in the age bracket of over 50 year old the CFR was 1,1% and that nearly 90% of that group had received at least one dose of vaccine.  I wonder what the CFR in this age group would be without the vaccination.

Also, with the hesitation that India (were Delta was first detected) has not been seen to do widespread testing, their reported CFR is 1.3% - so worse than flu.

Delta variant is 0.1% CFR. Its about as dangerous as the flu.

Ref: June 18, Public Health England report on "SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England"

The virus is moving through the community easier, and killing less people.  The media would have you believe Delta is more dangerous than original versions. 

Yes you can its called evolution in action.  Stupid begets bad outcomes

I read somewhere that about half of Finland's new covid cases are linked to fans going to St.Petersburg for the Euro football.   You can fix stupidity

Some statistics [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant#Statistics[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Delta_variant#Statistics reporting june 29 77,544 detections in 74 countries...almost 60,000 of the in the UK...The real number must be much higher...

[url]https://www.gisaid.org/hcov19-variants/[/url] or https://www.gisaid.org/hcov19-variants/ has the Delta variant going up almost all regions-only South America may be not going up very fast-likely related to an increase of the Lambda variant...(If that would be the case the Lambda variant could be an even bigger problem then the Delta variant already is...). 

In GISAID UK already 65,101 Delta variant cases detected, US 4,495, Germany 1,401, Singapore 911, Canada 783, Portugal 766, Spain 594, Russia 516, Italy 430, Belgium 395, France 362, South Africa 360, Indonesia 324, Denmark 280, NL 248, Australia 235, Japan 227, Switzerland 226, Mexico 223, Ireland 208, Sweden 167, Finland 126, Norway 115, Israel 113, Poland 101, Thailand 100, Bangladesh 95...Vietnam 72, Uganda 38, Kenya 37...

Since sequencing may be 100% of cases in Denmark, 50% of cases in UK rest of the world <5% in "poor countries"less then 1% the real numbers will be much higher...

[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/china-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/916069-china-confirmed-community-spread-of-1-617-variant-possible-delta-guangzhou-shenzhen-airport-worker-dongguan-city-guangdong-province-may-23-2021?view=stream[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/china-other-health-threats/china-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/916069-china-confirmed-community-spread-of-1-617-variant-possible-delta-guangzhou-shenzhen-airport-worker-dongguan-city-guangdong-province-may-23-2021?view=stream latest activity; "The way the virus spreads is magical." If children in close contact are not infected, outsiders will be infected. What is the reason? The on-site team members are also very puzzled. "The recent local outbreaks of Delta mutant strains that occurred in Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Dongguan are the first head-to-head confrontation with Delta mutant strains. At present, we are still unclear on many aspects of Delta mutant strains, and we cannot judge why this is the case." Zhang Zewu, leader of the on-site prevention and control working group, said. Sleep tightly, and set off at any time. Academician Zhong Nanshan pointed out, “The Delta strain has a high load, and the exhaled gas is very toxic and highly infectious. In the same space, the same unit, the same building, and the same building, the disease In the first four days, the people who got along with these patients were all close contacts." This posed a huge challenge to the handling of the epidemic. As of 0:00 on June 24, 4 confirmed cases (including Li's husband Xiao) were initially determined to have close contacts with 2,552 people in Dongguan, and 2,518 people with close contacts once. This is an unprecedented and huge workload. “Last year, when the epidemic was at its worst, it was not so difficult!” said Luo Dong, deputy director of the Municipal Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

DJ-China earlier reported the Delta variant had an R0 of 6,0 without restrictions-some UK experts would put that at an R0 of 8...still many countries lifting restrictions, increase global air travel...With global vaccination immunity less then 10% we are increasing this pandemic...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udix34rrSio[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udix34rrSio Dr. John Campbell in one of several interviews on the Delta variant-from the comments; 

-Good to get another update.  Why didn’t the government listen?

-Delta is deadly. Take it very seriously

-With South Africa and Australia in winter season and  lockdowns back, its not looking good overall.  Will be an interesting winter in Europe 

It is already a problem in Europe-and North America is not doing much better cases up +8%, deaths +7%...in weekly trends...

Winter in the north part of the globe may see another variant giving problems...maybe a mix of Delta+/Lambda ? 

So far vaccinations may help to keep hospital cases/deaths limited but most of the "rich countries" are far away from herd immunity. Even Israel-best vaccinated-reporting increase of cases +302%-last week 300 cases became 1,206 cases this week...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osiVD0KdjCU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osiVD0KdjCU  Dr. Been very good info on Delta variant !