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WHO calls this the "mother of all clusters"

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    Posted: May 24 2006 at 6:08am
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In the same article: At the same time, a spokesman for the Western Pacific region of WHO says the Indonesian cluster is still being viewed as a limited transmission among family members. Though rare, such incidents have been documented. There also is no indication anyone outside the family was infected.
 
WHO spokesman should know better than use hyperbole.
 
This spokesman may have been the "rent a cop at the gate"
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OK, I am starting to get concerned about all of this; and I am a fairly happy-go-lucky kind of person. However, I am not going to panic yet. 
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"Tests on dead poultry found outside the village aren't in yet."

They already know that the virus in the birds is different than the virus in humans.  That was documented by the US Naval Lab that Indonesia promptly kicked out of the country a third of a year ago because they announced it to the world.  That was a "State Secret" and the Australian doctor who made that announcement is persona non grata in Indonesia.

They are playing insane games with documented information down there, and not one American politician is brave enough to step forward and call a spade a spade.  Hang them all! Cowards!

The US is going along with this ruse and covering up the actual situation throughout asia.  The sequences are not being released.  Coverup, Coverup Coverup!  And it continues.
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Joe - complete agreement here.

While all of the political games continue and time is wasted on coverup stories, time keeps right on ticking and running out for the majority to realize there is a genuine threat.

Why does it seem that people in positions of authority usually lack common sense?
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I try to stay away from conspiracy theories, but I tend to believe what you all are saying here. 
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Look at the financial news yesterday and today.
 
Asia has much to loose!
 
The limited announcements from the WHO yesterday did have an effect!
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All news last night was about the $$$
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Originally posted by Proudest Monkey Proudest Monkey wrote:


I try to stay away from conspiracy theories, but I tend to believe what you all are saying here. 


I used to avoid conspiracy theories until I started following the spread of H5N1 Sichuan Sheet. (Sheet as in thin coverup)

Now, with all the obfuscation, I have no choice but to believe it is all corrupt as hades.
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NPR hasn't stopped talking about it all morning.
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Originally posted by Proudest Monkey Proudest Monkey wrote:


OK, I am starting to get concerned about all of this; and I am a fairly happy-go-lucky kind of person. However, I am not going to panic yet. 
Do not panic.  Get "Frosty" and stay that way.
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Not a conspiracy theory subscriber usually either but this is getting to be ridiculous! All I can think is that the WHO folks and the PTB need more time to get out of their investment positions - back to the $$$ again.

Dax Com - I like that - my 'to do' list for today was titled, "Don't Panic" - I will make tomorrow's list, "Stay Frosty".
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Now, with all the obfuscation, I have no choice but to believe it is all corrupt as hades.
Joe
 
You have hit the nail on the head.  Corrupt!!
 
Some of it has to do with money.  Governments that want tourist and trade with other countries at any cost.  Individuals seeing this as a chance to make money off of drugs or fear.
 
Some has to do with ego's  I will not tell you what is going on because you would not understand and I am not going to lower myself to try and explain it to you.  I will not release any information for others to see until I have completed my research and have published my paper so my name is held in high honor.
 
Some has to do with control:  We are the government and we are here to take care of you (control you and your life)
 
No conspires just a bunch of very corrupt people that looking out for themselves and heading as a herd in the same direction.
 
Compared to the WHO, UN and World Governments, Hitler and Stalin were rank amateur's  when you look at the numbers that these idiots are going to kill.
 
 
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MAJDAD...is this new???I thought it has always been this way Confused.
 
I note that the reason the WHO decided against raising the level OR convening with a panel of experts was..'because there was NO change in the situation (mutation OR sustained person to person spread)'.So it was decided not to bother the panel.
 
This leads me (IMHO) to believe that the ONLY time they shall convene or raise the level is when they definatly and have NO doubt at ALL that they are seeing mutation, AND sustained person to person spread. This unfortunatly would obviously be clear to pretty well everyone by then......then they would have the meeting and raise the level
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Originally posted by MAJDAD MAJDAD wrote:


Now, with all the obfuscation, I have no choice but to believe it is all corrupt as hades.
Joe
 
You have hit the nail on the head.  Corrupt!!
 
Some of it has to do with money.  Governments that want tourist and trade with other countries at any cost.  Individuals seeing this as a chance to make money off of drugs or fear.
 
Some has to do with ego's  I will not tell you what is going on because you would not understand and I am not going to lower myself to try and explain it to you.  I will not release any information for others to see until I have completed my research and have published my paper so my name is held in high honor.
 
Some has to do with control:  We are the government and we are here to take care of you (control you and your life)
 
No conspires just a bunch of very corrupt people that looking out for themselves and heading as a herd in the same direction.
 
Compared to the WHO, UN and World Governments, Hitler and Stalin were rank amateur's  when you look at the numbers that these idiots are going to kill.
 
 
 
110% agree with you!
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Quote This leads me (IMHO) to believe that the ONLY time they shall convene or raise the level is when they 'definatly and have no doubt at ALL that they are seeing mutation, AND sustained person to person spread. This would obviously be clear to pretty well everyone by then......then they would have the meeting and raise the level


I agree; it appears that the WHO will not go to phase 4 until it is very obvious to the entire world that there is sustained human to human transmission. Their reluctancy probably has a lot to do with the global economy, if I had to guess.


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Proudest Monkey:  you are correct.  By the time the WHO decides to raise the level, we will go from 3 to 6 because the Pandemic will be well underway and the WHO will have lost all credibility with the medical community and all ability to handle the problem with the world governments.
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I agree. I'm afraid that the health of the poultry industry is more important than the health of the nation or the world.

Money - money - money. It gets so very old.

Perhaps if this natural event is devastating enough to stop the current movement, we will once again be able to build a society regulated by commnon sense and common need, instead of common greed.

    
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Quote Perhaps if this natural event is devastating enough to stop the current movement, we will once again be able to build a society regulated by common sense and common need, instead of common greed.


That may be one positive outcome of a pandemic.

    
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No conspires just a bunch of very corrupt people that looking out for themselves and heading as a herd in the same direction.
 
 
 
 
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This says it all
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That cluster never did concern me, I felt that it hit a certain family that had a specific propensity for the virus.
However, I do reserve the right to retract that statement if everybody in their town turns up sick.
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Originally posted by Samoa Samoa wrote:

That cluster never did concern me, I felt that it hit a certain family that had a specific propensity for the virus.
However, I do reserve the right to retract that statement if everybody in their town turns up sick.


    
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I was thinking the same thing myself!  LOL
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Do not waste time wondering when levels will be declared, there is only one  answer , when it can not be covered up any longer.

I wish JaxMax had a commentary..........but handlers have side lined him. aaaaaaa  This is the point where you just need to keep your head down and prepare....

A Bible verse that is just perfect...... for the situation.
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