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SinisterBlueCat
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howdy! i have been lurking a while, but i am a first time poster.
i did a search about the subject of ginger ale and nothing came up, so i thought i would ask. when i was a child and i would get the flu or a stomach upset, my mom would give me flat ginger ale. it was wonderful. is anyone stocking any? also as a kid, i remember drinking something called coke syrup over crushed ice for tummy upsets. any thoughts? |
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NawtyBits
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I've heard the same thing about ginger ale. Also:
From Med-Owl: Ginger is related to the turmeric plant (source of Curcumin), and like curcumin, ginger can block TNF by interfering with the MAPK p38 pathway. PMID:15735738 (cache) PMID:15630166 (cache) It has been shown that the H5N1 virus stimulates overproduction of TNF, and that the extremely high levels of TNF are tied to the high mortality rate of this unusual virus. PMID:16051807 (cache) PMID: 12480361 (cache) Compounds in ginger also increase levels of antioxidant enzymes, including superoxide dismutase and glutathione peroxidase, which (like Garlic) may be beneficial in inflammatory reactions triggered by viral infections. PMID:15122579 (cache) Fresh ginger can be added freely to foods up to your taste tolerance (Thai and Indonesian cuisine make use of lots of ginger). Dried ginger is available in capsules in products like Nature's Way Ginger Root. ################ Also, How to make homemade ginger ale. I don't know if the fermentation process destroys the active ingredients in the ginger or not: http://biology.clc.uc.edu/Fankhauser/Cheese/Ginger_Ale_Ag0.htm Hope this helps. nawty |
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nettie4263
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We used to get Coke syrup too. Not sure you can get that anymore. Emetrol is the same idea, I think, so I grabbed a few bottles of that.
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SinisterBlueCat
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yeah, but is it as yummy tasting as coke syrup??
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Hi,
While I don't ordinarily drink ginger ale, my Mom did the same thing and yes I'm going to stock it. Since I'm a serious soda drinker, and Diet Coke went up 30 cents a 3 liter bottle in one week, I've purchased a home soda machine,
There is a company called SodaClubUSA.com and a home machine with everything you need to start will run a little over $100. However if you drink a lot of soda it will pay for itself shortly. I figured out it was running $1.53 for a 3 liter bottle from home (including the carbonator and syrup.) Since Walmart wants $1.78 (not including gas to drive there and back) for a 3 liter bottle it's the home unit for me.
Once I drink down the stored coke, I can free up all that space!
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SinisterBlueCat
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thanks for the information!
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I saw coke syrup right next to Emotrol the other day in Eckerd drug store. I was stocking up on the Emotrol and suppositories that day and wondered if the coke syrup worked as well as Emotrol. It was certainly much cheaper!
Has anyone had experience with both of these products and can compare them for us?
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No experience with coke syrup, but just saw something interesting yesterday about ginger...
The show "Myth Busters" did a show about sea-sickness (nausea) and tested all different home remedies and medications. The only one they recommended was ginger pills. This could be something to add to our preps.
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SinisterBlueCat, I would like to welcome you aboard. Lots of great info here! I was also sad to read on another thread that some people seem to be afraid to join, please, don't be. We really don't bite! We do however sometimes have a bad day and may get a little grouchy. Remember, we all need each other and the great ideas everyone has. Maybe you're thinking of the one thing we've all forgotten and it could just save a life.
Ginger Ale and Seven-up are both ideal for when you are sick and nauseated with the flu and hydration is the number one tool in our arsenal for taking care of the sick. I always keep it on hand and will get more if it breaks loose. It will stay in reserve strictly for palliative care.
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winemaker
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How about if you eat a lot of ginger? My Chinese in-laws are in
town and we are eating Chinese food every meal--including more ginger
than Schweppes could ever dream of. Good thing
I have big-time preps on rice, too!
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Safety Lady
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Years ago when I worked on a crab processor when anyone got seasick the chef gave them flat Pepsi. Worked every time. Crab was great too.
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Safety Lady
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I have a quesay stomach most times along with IBS and use a lot of candied ginger. It does help alot to calm the stomach down.
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Mississipp Mama
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I am stocking Ginger Ale, ginger candy, ginger capsules. I am also stocking can cokes,regular size and 8 ounce sizes , lemon lime soda and 7up.
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SinisterBlueCat
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thank you femvet for the welcome!
i am curious about ginger ale though...i wonder if it is all made the same way with the same amount of ginger ...? |
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I always have ginger ale on hand, it is one of mine and DD's favorite drinks. I only have about 6 or 7 2-liter bottles though, also stocking GatorAde for illness.
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SinisterBlueCat, I would think that there is actually relatively little ginger in Ginger ale. You can always add some powdered ginger from the spice isle.
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I swear by alka-seltzer...by belly is bad most of the time and in 5 minutes I'm feeling better.
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I have some gatorade incase of illness but I never thought of ginger ale I'll have to try that also.
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What a great thread.
I'm wondering if anyone else is prepping 'medicinal foods'? Ex: clear broth soups, saltines,applesauce, etc?
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I'm not stocking gatorade since I really hate the taste.
There is another electrolyte drink called Sqwincher which is similar in benefits but tastes better. It comes in powder, bottles, freezer pops etc.
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Rice is good for diahrrea (sp?) and we have a lot of that!
Bananas are also good for vomting and diahrrea. They are full of potasium. I have bought several jars of banana baby food for my preps.
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i guess you are right femvet, but then what it is about ginger ale that makes it settle a stomach?
the best part about gingerale when you start to feel a little better, it is good not flat and cold, it helps cut the pasty filmy feeling in your mouth from the vomiting. i keep medicinal foods, like clear broth, crackers and applesauce, jello on hand at all times anyway. with kids, there is just no telling when one of them comes home pukin' something else i noticed in the grocery store yesterday were those coolpops. those plastic tubes filled with fruit flavored juice that you freeze at home. you cant find them in the winter but not that summer is here, i grabbed a few boxes. they are cheap and if nothing else, kids like them. |
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SinisterBlueCat
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banana baby food, what a great idea!!
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When my kids are experiencing vomiting or diahrrea, pretty much anything that puts them in danger of dehydration when they are sick I have found that :
is extremely more useful to us than the bigger bottles. Just make what you need.
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Ginger Ale soda varies in effectiveness. Find one that uses REAL ginger and not simply ginger flavor. Some store brands work as well as the 'big names' for alot less. Candied ginger is good to nibble on or to steep in water for a ginger tea (which can also be made from fresh ginger root - or you can buy ginger tea bags -same thing look for real ginger & not just flavoring. My mom is big on ginger for stomach upset/motion sickness and even morning sickness. That can vary by person.. one pregnancy I could only drink ginger ale, another one I couldn't touch the stuff!
A couple drops (not more than 2-3 in an 8 oz glass) of peppermint oil in a glass of water, sipped slowly, can also calm the stomach. Used as an oral rinse it will get rid of that funky mouth taste SinisterBlueCat referred to above.
Another home remedy that I never believed until I tried it was to sip dill pickle juice (just a teaspoon or so) periodically to sooth an upset stomach and especially for morning sickness. Not sure why but at the time I didn't care why, only that I felt relief. For real...I thought the smell would knock me over but the sip actually worked!
A Caution with Gatorade... given to me from an Asthma doctor friend & a Chiropractor ... while it works for dehydration, it can flare asthma symptoms if they are already acting up. It is more palatable to me when it is served cold or when I really need electrolyte replacement (hot day/lots of outside activity). Not appealing if I have been sitting around on a cool day. If it seems too strong, try diluting it with a little water.
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I did a search to learn about electrolytes and found this:
From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolyte
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I found some more info: http://www.mrsci.com/Medical-Treatments/Oral_rehydration_therapy.php
I guess a good storage item to have on hand would be baby food consisting of mashed bananas. |
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Ginger ale is OK for regular flu. But remember this is different. If H5 mutates to H2H2H the symptoms will be severe!
1. copious nasal discharge
2. Bloody nose
3 Conjunctivitis (pink eye)
4. Hoarse throat and loss of voice
5. Abominal pain and vomiting
6. Severe coughing to the point of breaking ribs
7. Copious sputum
8. Bloody diarrhea
9. Respiratory failure in 2-6 days
10. Multi-organ failure
Currently 56.8% of the patients die even with hospital care.
Being placed on a ventalator, getting lots of IV's and good luck is your best bet to pull through.
If you are caring for a sick person at home or a make-shift hospital, supportive medications like cough syrup, ginger ale, tylenol etc. is about all that can be done.
The care giver has to have the appropriate protective clothing to not become infected, the patient needs isolation and a mask to prevent contaminating others.
The issue is huge. As you've found, even the local "officials" can't get their head around it.
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Pedialite is superior to Gatorade as an Electrolyte replacement.
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Pediate is the correct choice for serious illness but I am buying both Gateraide and ginger ale for tummy aches.
Candied ginger is good for mild illness Ginger ale also makes a great baste for ham. chicken pork roast.. Try to cook a ham with gingerale its amazing ok or beer. Gingerale may just liven up the taste of canned ham. |
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my mother and generations before her(from Spain) would drink chamomile tea and to this day I also drink chammomile(2 bags) when I have an upset stomach...but of course I have alka-seltzer for back up...problem when very sick, vomiting and diarrhea it is hard to keep things down without throwing it back up. When my girl had pneumonia we had to use the plastic syringes to give kids meds or straws to shoot liquid down the back of ther mouth because she was so lethargic and could not or would not drink...she ended up getting IV's afterall. Very hard to keep someone hydrated. I'm getting depositories for fever...they gave her that too since she was throwing up everything and it helped bring fever down. The oral Tylenol I tried giving her would just come right back up. It was awful...I thought she was going to die.
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Ginger is more effective for nausea than anything you can buy over the counter. (Compazine shots are supposed to be more effective). Fresh ginger root, chopped up, made into a tea, and eaten with the tea works great. Ginger ale has far less ginger. Oriental markets also sell ginger candy and sometimes ginger candy. I've given it to dozens of people for all kinds of nausea. Starting with ginger sips might help you get to the rehydration fluids earlier if you need them. If kids don't like ginger candy it can be added to cookie batter, great in butter cookies.
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Melody, what a horrible ordeal that must have been. I am getting suppositories. Great idea!
Thanks.
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Grandma, I'm glad you reminded me about the suppositories, need to go get some:O) Happy 4th of July everyone.
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GINGER CAPSULES
These work great (I've used them for morning sickness and seasickness, occasionally at the same time--don't go sailing when you're pregnant!) and they are excellent, They take up much less storage room than a case of ginger ale.
You can get them at health food stores or you can simply make your own by buying empty capsules (also at health food store) and ground ginger, and filling the empty caps with ginger.
I just got back from a cruise where I took ginger caps and they made the nausea disappear. No side effects either!
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Mississippi - it is better to stock soda pop in bottles or plastic - coke will eventually eat away at the can if its long term storage.
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Honeybee, thanks for the tip. I will rotate pop and stock up on bottles.
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I marched into Walgreens for the suppositories thinking I would grab a few...it requires a script from Dr.
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