Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
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Three in Hong Kong hospital amid bird
flu fears 01 February 2006 HONG KONG : Three people have been admitted to hospital in Hong Kong after eating a chicken believed to have been infected with the H5N1 strain of bird flu, officials said Wednesday. The three, including a 79-year-old woman, were placed in an isolation ward after it was found a chicken they had eaten during a family feast had nested with an infected bird smuggled in from China, the health department said. The three live in a village in the mainly rural New Territories, which border mainland China. Officials also ordered a cull of poultry flocks after another migratory bird was found to have died of the killer disease. The new H5N1 detections follow the discovery last week of two wild birds that had died of the virus. "We have placed the three into an isolation ward as a precautionary measure," said Thomas Tsang, director of the government's Centre for Health Protection. "So far they have not shown any symptoms of influenza -- no fever -- but we will have the results of preliminary tests tomorrow," Tsang added. Acting agriculture chief Thomas Sit said he would order a cull of poultry on farms in a five-kilometre (three-mile) radius of the public park where the latest wild bird was found dead. "We will also ask people who keep household poultry to check their animals," Sit said, adding that all walk-in aviaries and the city's sprawling Mai Po Nature Reserve would be closed as a further precaution. P.S. This is the start of the Chinese New Year celebrations and the start of their flu season. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/ 191180/1/.html ------ 13:30 - 01 February 2006 Hong Kong - "Officials have ordered the closure of all bird parks and aviaries in Hong Kong after a dead myna bird and a chicken tested positive for bird flu, health authorities have said. The dead crested myna was found in a playground and had the H5N1 bird flu virus, according to preliminary tests, said Thomas Sit of the Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department. The chicken was brought by a villager to Hong Kong from a relative in mainland China on January 26,2006." http://www.suttonobserver.co.uk/displayNode.jsp? nodeId=185916&command=displayContent&sourceNode=186002&conte ntPK=13943798 Edited by Rick |
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I don't see the problem, unless they are eating raw chicken? I was under the impression that as long as the chicken is properly cooked, it is safe to consume.
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The Chinese prefer to eat freshly killed chicken,
(that is a lot of chicken) which usually involves, butchering and physically handling the bird close to home. The question is not if the meat they ate was infected, but if the bird was infected or came into contact with infected birds. Keep in mind not everyone with H5N1 will display symptoms, they can still be loaded with the virus and pass it along. As the antigenic shift evolves, the ability of H5 to infect others increases. WHO still does not wish to reveal all it's cards about incubation periods and it's etiology. Remember, Chinese New just started. They like to celebrate by killing and eating fresh chicken. It is also the start of the year flu season, February- March. It's not unlike a Biological Tsunami. In this case, we've had a lot more warning. Edited by Rick |
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The virus is also in the feathers, runny beak nostrils, etc. you don't have to gut one or play in poop to get the virus. Feathers flap and the virus is airborne. The chicken can be cooked to kill the virus but the cook .kitchen and utensils may be contaminated from handeling and preperation. Adds new meaning to the saying, "Kiss the cook." Edited by Corn |
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Bingo!
Eating cooked chicken flesh is not the issue. The devil is in the preparation. Edited by Rick |
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Hong Kong says found more H5N1 flu in dead birds
Wed Feb 1, 2006 12:47 PM GMT
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By John Ruwitch HONG KONG (Reuters) - The Hong Kong government said on Wednesday that two dead birds -- a wild crested myna and a domestic chicken smuggled in from mainland China -- had tested positive for the deadly H5N1 bird flu virus. Three people who came into contact with the fowl and ate another chicken that had also been around the smuggled bird have been put into isolation at a local hospital for tests. Preliminary results were expected on Thursday. The chicken and myna double the number of dead birds Hong Kong government tests in the past two weeks have shown to have H5N1, a strain of bird flu that has killed 85 people worldwide since late 2003. As a precaution, the government will cull all poultry within five kilometres (3.1 miles) of the smallholding where the chicken died, and also close the city's walk-in aviaries and a large nature reserve, said Thomas Sit, Acting Assistant Director of Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation. It was unclear where the chicken caught the deadly disease, said Thomas Tsang, Consultant of the Centre for Health Protection of the Department of Health. "We do not know whether the chicken was infected in the mainland or whether it was infected in Hong Kong," he told a news conference. "We can't really draw any conclusions yet." The bird was smuggled into Hong Kong on January 26 without symptoms and became ill on January 31. The typical incubation period for the disease in birds is two to 10 days, he said. The chicken was brought illegally into Hong Kong ahead of the Lunar New Year period. Despite bird flu worries, the government increased the number of chickens shipped into Hong Kong from mainland China around the January 29 Lunar New Year. It fell ill and died about a half a kilometre (0.3 miles) from the border with China in an area where the government said on Sunday that an Oriental Magpie Robin also died of H5N1. The dead crested myna was found in an urban playground, Tsang said. The H5N1 virus currently cannot be transmitted between humans, but health experts warn that if it mutates it could spark a devastating global pandemic. Hong Kong farms have strict biosecurity measures in place that keep poultry from coming into contact with wild birds, but there are many small, unprotected backyard farms raising small flocks. The Hong Kong government pledged to cull all the chickens in the territory in the event of two confirmed H5N1 cases in local poultry farms and suspend the local live poultry trade. Several Chinese provinces have reported H5N1 outbreaks, but not Guangdong, which is adjacent to Hong Kong.
This creates a nightmare scenario in my mind Edited by wannago |
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I remember reading how two hildren died after playing with a chicken bone the next day i was cooking a chicken and the act is no different, plus it not like the chicken arrives precooked in my house at least not every time . So who the hell thinks we are stupid when they say its ok to eat chicken |
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. I think the point is, it won't be about
what to eat, but rather what we can find to eat, if we are still kicking :-) |
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