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Found imported meat from areas in China infec H5N1

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Originally posted by Gimme Gimme wrote:

Jhetta,
 
So what did this vigilent Inspectors do?  They delayed and also destroyed
the evidence.  WHY?
 
I have my theories.. I am sure you do as well!
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CabinLass-

How about this:

Jones: What do you want me to do with the samples?
Boss: We'll have 'em tested later, put 'em in the refrigerator and destroy the meat.
Press: What was the "bug" type?
Boss: The meat was destroyed before we could test it.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mahshadin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2006 at 1:34pm
Follow that up with later response somthing like
 
The samples were to degraded to get an acurate test result
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."   G Orwell
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INFLUENZA >>  AVIAN INFLUENZA >>  NEWS >> 

Michigan officials track smuggled Chinese poultry

Jul 13, 2006 (CIDRAP News) – State agriculture and health officials in Michigan are searching Chinese restaurants and Asian grocery stores for frozen poultry products smuggled from China in violation of an import ban sparked by avian influenza.

The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) told the Detroit Free Press yesterday that on Jun 5 it had seized 1,940 pounds of illegal poultry believed to be from China from a warehouse in Troy, Mich., according to a story published today. The smuggled frozen poultry was packed in unmarked boxes or in boxes labeled as tilapia fish. The products included geese, ducks, and chickens that had intestines intact.

USDA officials said they destroyed the product and that it was not tested for avian flu because it would not have served a food-safety purpose. The agency says that as long as poultry is cooked to an internal temperature of 165 degrees, it should not pose a threat.

Brad Deacon, emergency management coordinator for the Michigan Department of Agriculture, told the Free Press, "'We have seen no indication that any of this material was contaminated with avian influenza."' But he and other state officials conceded that there is no way to know for certain because federal inspectors destroyed all of the poultry they recovered without testing it.

State officials became involved in tracking the illegal products Jun 22 when they learned of the USDA probe, according to the Free Press. When state and federal officials returned to the warehouse on Jun 27 they impounded five boxes of illegal products, including goose intestines and pig carcasses.

The USDA is continuing its investigation of the warehouse owner, the Free Press reported. Officials are considering pressing charges against warehouse employees who are suspected of tampering with the products that were impounded in Jun 27. When officials went back to the warehouse to destroy the products, they found that the goose intestines had been swapped for chicken parts.

In other avian flu news, the top animal health official in Indonesia has been reassigned because of his agency's poor response to avian influenza outbreaks, Agence France Presse (AFP) reported today. An agriculture ministry spokesperson said that animal health director Syamsul Bahri had been assigned to another post. Though he declined AFP's request for comments on Bahri's reassignment, the minister told a Korean newspaper that one of the reasons was the agency's poor performance in addressing the avian influenza threat.

Indonesia has 40 confirmed fatal cases of H5N1 avian flu, along with one recent fatal case that has not been confirmed by a foreign laboratory. The number of deaths in Indonesia is second only to Vietnam, which has not had any deaths in 2006. Critics have said that Indonesia has been slow to respond to bird flu and has not implemented widespread culls that have reduced the spread of the disease in other countries.

In Romania, for example, aggressive culling appears to be paying off. The USDA Foreign Agricultural Service office in Sofia, Romania, reported that Romania culled almost 1 million fowl in May. Most were on commercial farms. The USDA report, detailed in a Bloomberg News story Jul 11, said the H5N1 virus was circulating in 18 of Romania's counties in May, but by the end of June it was circulating in only four counties.

In October, Romania became the first European nation to report an outbreak of avian influenza. The avian influenza outbreak caused the demand for poultry in Romania to drop by about 80%.

Meanwhile in China, a court in Beijing has jailed a farmer who reported avian flu outbreaks to the central government, according to a Jul 11 Reuters report. The man has been sentenced to three and a half years in prison for fraud and blackmail.

Quio Songju, a goose farmer in the eastern Chinese province of Jiangsu, reported bird flu outbreaks in his area in October and was arrested a month later. The reports turned out to be correct, but the Reuters report says the Chinese media reported that the prosecution maintains that Songju was involved in a swindling scheme.

Media outlets have recently reported a Chinese crackdown on the news media for reporting on emergencies such as natural disasters or disease outbreaks without government authorization. China was roundly criticized for covering up avian influenza incidents, particularly during the early outbreaks.

 

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"The USDA is continuing its investigation of the warehouse owner, the Free Press reported. Officials are considering pressing charges against warehouse employees who are suspected of tampering with the products that were impounded in Jun 27. When officials went back to the warehouse to destroy the products, they found that the goose intestines had been swapped for chicken parts. "
 
If the products were impounded on June 27th how did employees have access to it?
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Originally posted by CabinLass CabinLass wrote:

"The USDA is continuing its investigation of the warehouse owner, the Free Press reported. Officials are considering pressing charges against warehouse employees who are suspected of tampering with the products that were impounded in Jun 27. When officials went back to the warehouse to destroy the products, they found that the goose intestines had been swapped for chicken parts. "
 

If the products were impounded on June 27th how did employees have access to it?


I was wondering the same thing? Were the products really impounded or just sitting around at the warehouse? Doesn't add up.
    
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No signs of avian flu found at 36 eaterieshttp://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060715/METRO/607150353/1003

Saturday, July 15, 2006
 
Paul Egan / The Detroit News 

County health officials completed inspections Friday at all 36 Michigan restaurants known to be supplied by a Troy warehouse that is under federal investigation. They found no signs of poultry suspected to be contaminated with avian flu, a state official said.

Monitoring will continue and federal charges against the owner of the warehouse are possible, said Bridget Beckman, a spokeswoman for the Michigan Department of Agriculture.

The state Thursday suspended the license of the warehouse, which was shut down Friday.

State and federal officials recently seized and destroyed thousands of pounds of poultry and other food products from Asia Food Service Inc.

The business is suspected of illegally importing frozen poultry from China in violation of a ban imposed due to avian flu concerns. No tests of the food were conducted, so officials do not know whether it was contaminated.

You can reach Paul Egan at (313) 222-2069 or pegan@detnews.com.

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Notice how quickly they got their lab results!
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Rjay - did they do lab reports or visually -- "nope I dont 'see no virus in there-do you?
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LOL, oldasrocks!

Of course every time they make a mistake like that it gets harder for them to say, next time that the results will take a week.    
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I wonder what the visiting Vets from Russia...think of this fiasco in Michigan...  "He said Russian veterinary experts arrived in the United States this week to discuss Moscow's concerns. "
 
 
Russian "nyet" to US meat meant no WTO deal
 
Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:55pm ET8
 
By Tom Doggett

ST PETERSBURG, Russia (Reuters) - A dispute over access for U.S. meat to the Russian market helped frustrate U.S.-Russian talks on a deal for Russia to join the World Trade Organization, America's top trade negotiator said on Saturday.

After intense, late-night negotiations this week, U.S. and Russian officials failed to reach a trade deal in time for the Group of Eight summit this weekend in St. Petersburg, where Russia had hoped to sign a trade accord with the United States.

But officials on both sides said they hoped a deal could be struck in the next few months.

While progress was made on several problems like industrial tariffs and intellectual property rights, a major dispute centered on getting certain U.S. meat exports to Russia, Trade Representative Susan Schwab said.

"It is access provided by the Russians to imports -- their imports of beef and pork" that was a major holdup to a deal, Schwab told reporters at the G8 summit. She said Russia has problems with U.S. regulations on food safety and the health of America's beef and pork.

Other broader market access issues involving poultry and a couple of other agricultural products also had to be resolved, Schwab said.

Agricultural products are among the United States' biggest exports, with pork and beef shipments alone worth billions of dollars annually.

Russian Economy Minister German Gref told reporters on Saturday that Moscow is worried about how U.S. pork, when frozen, is protected from passing on the parasitic disease trichinosis and also about the reliability of the U.S. system of checking for mad cow disease.

He said Russian veterinary experts arrived in the United States this week to discuss Moscow's concerns.

"We expect that this problem will be solved by the end of October and we will be able to sign an agreement (on WTO entry)," Gref said.

Schwab offered a similar timeline, saying a deal should be reached with the Russians in "two or three months."

(Additional reporting by Douglas Busvine))

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It will just show the Russians that American inspectors can be bought too.

I knew-about 40 yrs ago-- of a slaughterhouse that kept the Federal Inspector well supplied with whiskey. "dropped that side of beef in the xxxzx well hang it up and wash it off." What silly things we remember. Being young and stupid I thought to myself they ought to fire that guy for drinking so much on the job.
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