enough is enough

Loribearme wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um1zCKPWoDw no conspiracy here....

Loribearme you couldn't have picked a better conspiracy theory. You love conspiracy stuff and you post them non stop. If everyone already had hidden secret RFID chips imbedded in them or someone sprinkled RFID chips on their food like that lady claims. And it was proven without a doubt to be true. Then it would be a FACT. For now it's some lady trying to get a bunch of misguided fearful people to buy her books. She makes her entire income writing books like "spychips" doing talk shows and giving speeches at paranoia conventions. The more you scare people the more they will buy.

The Future laws of RFID chips is unknown and it definitely would seem like a Huge invasion in privacy. I doubt I would want one imbedded in me.

It would also be very useful:

What if RFID chips were required by law to be placed in all two time convinced Child Molesters. You and your kids would know if a Pervert was within 30 feet of them.

What if all two time violent felons had the chip inserted by law. You could detect a criminal walking around your yard before they broke into your house. It would make it very difficult for them to forge checks, use stolen credit cards, or fence stolen goods.

People with diabetes or known medical conditions could be treated quickly and it would save lives knowing their medical problems and history instantaneously without waiting hours for blood work.
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Conspiracy theory is a term that originally was a neutral descriptor for any conspiracy claim. However, it has come to almost exclusively refer to any theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful Machiavellian conspirators, such as a "secret team" or "shadow government", rather than broad social forces and large structures of human collectivities.[1]
Conspiracy theories are often viewed with skepticism and sometimes ridiculed because they are seldom supported by any conclusive evidence and contrast with institutional analysis, which focuses on people's collective behavior in publicly known institutions, as recorded in scholarly material and mainstream media reports, to explain historical or current events, rather than on secretive coalitions of individuals. [2]
The term is therefore often used dismissively in an attempt to characterize a belief as outlandishly false and held by a person judged to be a crank or a group confined to the lunatic fringe. Such characterization is often the subject of dispute due to its possible unfairness and inaccuracy.[3]
In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, conspiracy theories have become commonplace in mass media, which has contributed to conspiracism emerging as a cultural phenomenon and the possible replacement of democracy by conspiracy as the dominant paradigm of political action in the public mind. Belief in conspiracy theories has therefore become a topic of interest for sociologists, psychologists and experts in folklore.


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Mary008 wrote: Tech says... You love conspiracy stuff and you post them non stop. Tech... don't be afraid, we won't let the theories harm you. kick back ...smile more.

My usual breakfast is a bowl full of theories, nano-chips for lunch and supercomputers for dinner.
I feed my Smurfs colloidal silver so they don't fade or die of the swine flu.

She has some legit things to say....not all are conspiracy.  If you heard her then you would know...don't go jumping to your conclusions just yet...just see her point of view and take it with a grain of salt. 

I will give it a look Loribearme...   I was just laughing at the smurf comment.  Tech has no shame today.... :)   There are a lot of theories out there...some are wild and some are very interesting.  Some look crazy ...but are true...  they are not ALL... entirely nuts.  Things are not that black and white.  

ok guys....dont compare me to some crazy person!!

Mary008 wrote:

Don't encourage him. In the end, this type of spin will cost us the lives of millions and keep us from informing people of much needed information. You actually think this is funny. My whole family is ill and many of my dear friends. I don't think that is funny.

Medclinician

Med, Have you ever enjoyed life?

I was telling a joke after Mary008 was teasing me.
Did you see the Smile face that mary008 posted.
It seemed like she thought it was funny.
It's OK to joke around. You should try it once and awhile.

Oh I get it. You hate Smurfs. Next time I'm in the woods, I'm going to tell those little small blue creatures who live in the forest that you hate them. Then we will see who has credibility or fans in Smurf Village.

Technologist wrote: Med, Have you ever enjoyed life? I was telling a joke after Mary008 was teasing me. Did you see the Smile face that mary008 posted. It seemed like she thought it was funny. It's OK to joke around. You should try it once and awhile. Oh I get it. You hate Smurfs. Next time I'm in the woods, I'm going to tell those little small blue creatures who live in the forest that you hate them. Then we will see who has credibility or fans in Smurf Village.

somehow comedians and global disasters aren't compatible. You want a joke. Okay.
There was a very religious man who believed deeply in God and his power to deliver him from any disaster. There was a horrible flood and he and his family were on the edge of a roof as the torrent of the river rushed by. He was praying feverishly for God to save him and a man in a boat came by and said- hey jump in- I'll get you and your family to safety.

No, he said. God is going to save me or will give me the insight to figure out what to do.
So the man in the boat left.

The river rushed further, now a torrent of howling storm and rushing water with a few feet left on the roof. A helicopter came down, bright light flashing and a loudspeaker boomed out- please grab the ladder we are lowering down- you don't have much time.

The man on the roof stared at the ladder and laughed. Don't you know that at the last minute this flood will just vanish and miraculously we all be saved and all your doom and gloom will have been for nothing.  They waited several minutes - and finally with almost broken voice the rescuer said- as you wish.  The helicopter vanished into the howling storm.

Finally with a deafening roar the water swarmed the house and the man and his entire family drowned.

In heaven, the man was standing at the pearly gates next to St. Peter and the saint said- God wants to have a word with you. He stepped through and soon, bowed down before God and still he was grumbling-

I don't understand. I have believed all my life in you. Then you abandon me, said the man.

Look, said God. I sent you a boat, I send you a helicopter- what do you want I gave you plenty of ways to save yourself? .........

hands Tech a container of water and a box of rations...

any questions?

Prep.

Medclinician

Technologist wrote: Oh beware, my lord, of jealousy! It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock The Swine Flu it feeds on.

You know Tech my caring about people extends to you no matter what you say about me. I would be the hand reaching out to pull you and your family off that roof. Let me finish my book and you do your site. The world will be better because of it. Nite. We fossils, especially fluish ones do need sleep. Readers- for me this is training. When I go public - and am on the media- this is just a warm up.

Med

Ruthie23 wrote: MY son has H1N1, Thursday they treated him for asthama and thought it was a cold. Friday he was getting much worse. BY Saturday night it was touch and go, no matter how old your child is you never stop being scared. He was able to start talking a little bit last night.  Today he  said he thought he was going to die.  He said Mom I can't imagine how a child can make it through this, I couldnt get enough air in my lungs to even speak.  Said everything on him hurts so badly and he is so exhausted he cant even lift his arms. THey put him on tami flu  antibiotics treating him still with all the asthma medication they can think of and other drugs for cough and lungs .             They put everyone in our family on tami flu immediately. No adverse reactions for any of us as yet including the babies. THe kids are on 1 dose a day instead of 2, unless they start  any one of the symtoms, then they will go to 2 times a day immediately.          My son is Exec. Chef for all the UCSD  medical Centers, and had to take one of his chefs to the emgergency rooms last Wed., they are pretty sure he contacted it there. Adam isnt out of the woods yet ,but Praise GOd, I really feel he is going to be ok. Doctors said he can  possibly come home Friday. So far none of us are showing any signs of the Flu.                      Adam said he wouldn't wish this on anyone.   God bless all of you..

Prayers are with you Pebs for your son. Some encouraging words from some of us who have had this- it is a miserable flu. One of the symptoms is severe depression and a feeling of hopelessness. Dr. D remarked to me during her worst period of this- she felt truly awful mentally as well as physically. It is so good that he is doing somewhat better. Sons always need their moms- no matter how old they are- and I am sure your caring and love is helping him a great deal to get through this.

Med

Ruthie, tell your son, we are all thinking of him. I hope he gets better soon. Maybe when he is better he can tell us about it!! This sounds terrible and am so glad he is better.

Levygoddess wrote: Technologist, take it easy for a couple days and I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks,

As long as I'm laying down I feel pretty good. It's not a big deal yet. It's just walking around that hits me hard. I'll probably be running around by friday. I actually have a good deal of Medical Equipment in my home if needed. Oxygen Concentrators, O2 Tanks, Finger and recording SPO2 monitors, Two Bi-pap ST's with full ventilatory support, nebulizers etc,. My next door neighbor is a good friend an a Cardiologist so I'm covered.

Mary008 wrote: Laughter is so good for us... what a great day...

Thanks Mary,

It's a great day and laughing is therapeutic.

Levygoddess wrote: Technologist, take it easy for a couple days and I hope you feel better soon.

I'm 80-90% better today but I was zapped for a few days. Double red cell blood donations can drain you big time. Giving them around flu season is not a smart idea and I take full credit for being an idiot when they talked me into it. I didn't have a fever so I think it was simply the donation that zapped my energy. It's weird as I've never had a problem donating before.

  MY jaw hit my desk when i read this one abcdefg..........tell me this is a joke and your being funny..

Technologist wrote: I'm exhausted myself. I gave a double Red Cell Donation 5-6 days ago and I have no energy at all for the last two days.. No Fever or real flu symptoms at all. My SPO2 is 97-98 and my Hemoglobin and Hematocrit were at the upper end when I donated. 17.1, 52.2 so I'm stumped as to why standing is so exhausting. I do Triathlons and have donated numerous times so blood donation issues seem odd. I doubt I even have a flu so I'm not going to waste my Relenza. My kids are fine so I'm keeping distance and I have Negative ventilation in my room just in case.

Tech- this flu is a sneaky one. Our research so far indicates that it can basically go around the immune system which basically is the thing which produces symptoms, fever, and anything clearly definable.

It also comes back. It is not a simple matter of a few days of misery. We have been seeing this in employees for over a year. A stubborn flulike illness that becomes chronic. The problem is - it effect peoples thinking, mood, disposition, and decisions. The over all climate in the U.S. moodwise is not terrific.

Yes Tech. We are all human- and whether we have serious symptoms, as I have had and are diagnosed, or this things slowly eats at us draining our energy and throwing us off balance, it is a threat.

Do, what I have not been able to do for years, get some rest and smell the roses, and just enjoy your family and your life. No one knows for sure how this is going to play out- but we do know that millions in the U.S., a 20% sample drawn weeks ago were positive for Swine Flu- are infected.

No hard feelings, as I said to RC. And ready for a joke- just like a Toyota- some of us are-
driven.

Medclinician

Ruthie, I was funnin with Tech a little. He got me scared on the water thing. So I had to "inform him" of that serious cookie threat out there.   Debbie