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INDIA: Mysteria Fever 3,000 - 3,500 +
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crosses fingers this could be bad hope not but I started prepping with pastas and rice, fifteen pounds of pasta and rice and thats not including the canned goods
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 I agree that this sounds like a "norovirus". It has made me think though, that if someone with a norovirus has exposure to H5N1, is there a higher risk for a reassortment of the virus, allowing it to become liklier to obtain the genetic components for it to become H2H?
  Things that make you go hmmmmmm.....
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when i said i learned from the best, joe has been consistant & accurate with his observations. as much as i hope this is norovirus, i am not so sure, sophia pointed out that these people have high fever, not consistant with norovirus, but consistant with h5... its been pointed out time after time that most people are originally diagnosed  incorrectly abbf right ? i read the norovirus thread on fluwiki, its was just someones spectulation - good one- but spectulation. we know bf is there, we have been watching for news of mass outbreaks of unknown illness, well here it is ...i hope its just  norovirus ... i hope its just norovirus ... i hope its just norovirus
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Sounds Familiar:

Norovirus outbreak among evacuees from hurricane Katrina--Houston, Texas, September 2005.

Whole Story: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search& ;DB=pubmed
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Location of fever. The had some birds die at a large sanctuary in the same
province recently.



http://ww1.mid-day.com/news/nation/2006/february/131451.htm
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A blast from the past in the province of Orissa.

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I may be mad, but I just hunted down some accountant from Rourkela on blogspot and emailed him, asking for details.  I'll let you know if I get anything back.
I had a little bird,
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While I have not yet heard back from Natwar Lath, our hand picked man on the ground in Rourkela, he apparently went and did some digging.  I was tooling around the internet trying to find some news about the outbreak, when I found this blog article.

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IS Rourkela stirken with Bird Flu (NO, Not at all)

I just spoke with CDMO, who is camping at Rourkela. He ruled out any possibilty for bird flu and EVEN malaria. It is a normal yellow fever effected a lot people. However, the medicine are working and patients are reporting cured within 3 days.


For more details visit

http://www.avianflutalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2730&K W=rourkela

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Get that!  Posted by Natwar Lath and providing a link back to this very thread.  It's truly amazing how much information gathering power the internet can leverage.  Hopefully, I'll hear a bit more soon.  Many thanks to Natwar Lath.
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Amazing, fafhrd! Thank you! The internet (the people who make it up) has become so incredible! Power to the people!  Stories, rumors, information is heard, then tracked, verified for accuracy and clarified by someone at the location in a few hours.  No, you are not mad! Just brilliant!
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Originally posted by fafhrd fafhrd wrote:

I may be mad, but I just hunted down some accountant from Rourkela on blogspot and emailed him, asking for details.  I'll let you know if I get anything back.

 

We need to call you the Grey Mouser, instead!
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That little prancing jackanapes?  Phaw!!

I'm still stunned by it all!  Thanks for the kind comments, FiddlerDave!
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Oh I pray it is the stomach flu.

It does tend to spread quickly. Just had it last week and it was awful.

Geez, I'm going to have to start spending less time in the Tiki room.
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To Natwar Lath and all our brothers and sisters in India,

Our thoughts and prayers are with you.  The internet brings all citizens of the world together for the common good.

Love and Health to all.

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I also pray its stomach flu, my sister had it and by the time she was getting better I was just getting sick, eight times a night every hour on the hour, both ends.  not nice that was five - six years ago.  stomach was messed up for a week.
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Has anyone heard of the status of this situation?  With inmates getting this "mysterious" fever now, I wonder if this is really yellow fever.  Yellow fever is is spread by mosquitos and is found in Africa and South America, not India.  In the list of symptoms, I also did not see jaundice as a symptom (yellowing of the skin caused by liver damage - that is why they call it yellow fever). 
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Crossposted from Speculation Forum:
Mystery fever: Nothing to worry, says administration
Sunday March 5 2006 08:03 IST

ROURKELA: Alarmed at the mysterious fever outbreak at Panposh sub-division, the district administration has woken up to a series of precautionary measures. However, administration sources said the situation is fully under control.

More than 3,500 patients are reportedly suffering from the fever, which health officials could be viral fever. Sources said 70 new cases were reported from Rourkela Special Jail. However, Chief District Medical Officer (CDMO) Dr Premanand Patnaik claimed that there had been a remarkable fall in the number of patients, reporting sick.

Of the 351 cases treated on Friday, 120 were repeat cases. In a bid to allay fear among the people about the disease, Rourkela ADM Shalini Pandit accompanied by Dr Patnaik, CMO of RGH Dr Pramila Mohanty and Medicine Specialist Dr S Basa of Rourkela Government Hospital addressed mediapersons.


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Interesting article on what is happening in Orissa. Due to pollution and coal mining :
“Cases of respiratory and skin diseases are rampant in this area,” says a doctor at the Orissa Power Generation Corporation hospital.

“Earlier each family used to have at least two to three goats and hens, besides cows and bullocks. Now a rough count estimates around 20 goats, 50 hens and 10 cows in the whole village, that too in a miserable condition,”

The waterbodies are contaminated by coal dust and oil, which creates a shortage of drinking water. “The mines have swallowed up the only source of drinking water in the village, a 3.24 hectare kata (a traditional water body),” says Bhukli Oram, a villager. Five tube wells have so far been installed in the village but only one is functional, just about. The villagers have to dig pits along the bank of the Lilari nullah for drinking water. A pond called tisco dhuda (named after the nearby abandoned tisco mines) — the only place to bathe other than Lilari nullah — is also polluted.

Full Article here
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Fever hits 2,000 in Malegaon

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 21:33 IST

      
NASHIK: Over 1,000 people, including women and children, were
admitted to government and private hospitals in the powerloom town of
Malegaon in the district following complaints of fever, a senior official
said on Wednesday.
     
Another 1,000 people are said to be affected too.

Malegaon Municipal Corporation Medical Officer Dr Hasonoddin Shaikh
said that MMC health squad was fully geared up to provide treatment to
the patients, who were admitted following complaints of "high
temperature and joint pains".
     
"The condition of all the patients was stable," Shaikh added.

"We have collected blood samples of all the patients for examinations and
report of it was awaited," he added.

http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1018134

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Apologies for what might be a stupid question but if God forbid, H5N1 becomes airborne, will it be recognizable as the avian bird flu or could it have mutated to the point where it will be thought to be a new mystery disease ? I read somewhere that when it does evolve, H5N1 could initially infect a large number of people with less severe symptoms, thereby either giving people a false sense of security, or by actually mutating into a strain that is less deadly. But by the same token, it could just as easily evolve into an airborne killer flu. I guess my question is lab related. Using the mystery illness outbreak in India as an example, would a mutated form of H5N1 still show up on lab testing as itself ? Do we have any techs here that can answer this question ? By the way, I am not a certified lab tech but I do work in a medical lab and our company has H5N1 testing available. I have not seen it being requested by any of our clients yet, and that is good news.
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    No harm to pigs by bird flu virus


Bhopal, March 21 There have been a few precautionary measures taken in MP after getting positive samples of Bird Flu from Nandurbar, Jalgaon (Maharashtra) and Uchhal (Gujarat). Although having infected neighbouring states Madhya Pradesh does not need to worry at the moment.

The commissioner, Veterinary services Rajesh Rajora has informed today that there has been a special watch over the transportation of poultry and poultry products at the borders of MP adjoining Gujarat and Maharashtra. An Intensive check and survey of symptoms is continuing at poultry forms, hatcheries and places where migratory birds stay.

There have been 3344 samples collected from various places, were sent to the high security animal disease lab, Bhopal. Out of which the report of 960 samples show negative result. Results of approximately 2000 new samples would possibly be declared on March 22.

The orders for special precautions to be taken in Barwani, Jhabua, Khandwa, Burhanpur, Dhar, Dewas, Indore, Hoshangabad and Harda have been released in MP.

It has been officially informed that the Bird Flu Virus can infect the pig or the duck as refractory or carrier but influenza 'A' virus of bird flu does not cause death in pigs and ducks in general, therefore the news relating to the death of pigs and ducks by bird flu is beyond truth.

It is commonly known that pigs, ducks, water fowls and men can get infected by bird flu but inclusion of the death of crows, Kites, dogs etc. in the category is a false. So the question of the presence of bird flu virus in the incidents of the death of pigs in Guna, Indore Bhopal in the state does not arise at all.

It has been found in the studies that the diseases causing death in pigs are normally as swine fever, swine influenza, swine arycephelous and leptosporosis and none of the diseases infect human being.

The Animal Veterinary Department is making available a proper treatment facility in these districts on receiving the information after the post mortem of the dead pigs done.

The orders have been issued for getting vaccines for preventing swine fever from the institute of bioculture products at Mahu. Vaccination will be carried out with the help of the Municipal Corporation of Indore.



http://www.centralchronicle.com/20060322/2203022.htm

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Originally posted by Celira Celira wrote:

Apologies for what might be a stupid question but if God forbid, H5N1becomes airborne, will it be recognizable as the avian bird flu orcould it have mutated to the point where it will be thought to be a new
mystery disease ?


There will be no mystery. There will be reports of people having flu-like illness, some will not recover, but die. Unlike the old-fashion seasonal influenza, deaths will not be confined to the elderly or those in nursing homes. That is my perspective. I'm sure there are other viewpoints.
    
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You are right Rick the goverments of the World are comeing together to deny BF. They are doing it to keep a mass panic from starting. The news everyday is starting to get out and there cover is crumbling.
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A panic spared today is a panic amplified tomorrow.
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This sounds more like a cholera outbreak than yellow fever or influenza. 
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That's probably why all these leaders are going over the the countries affected, like Rice was in Indonesia, Harper in CensoredAfghanistan, someone else was in India, along with that Black Actor. Lots of traveling done in the last month
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And just when we have heard it all:
Now chicken festival in Jharkhand
Thursday March 23 2006 00:00 IST

IANS

RANCHI: A variety of lip-smacking chicken dishes would be on the platter, as the poultry businessmen are organising a chicken festival here to dispel the bird flu scare and better their business.

The dishes to be served during the festival March 26 will include - chicken tikka, reshmi kebab, chilli chicken, chicken lollipop, roast, chicken butter masala and kadai chicken.

Doctors will also be present at the festival in the town hall to educate people about bird flu and dispel the fears.

"We are organising the chicken festival to bring back the confidence of people in the food item. It is our last resort to give a boost to sale of chicken in the state," said Umesh Singh, president of Jharkhand Poultry Association (JPA).

The sale of chicken has gone down by 80 percent in Jharkhand. The prices have gone down from Rs 50 per kg to Rs 15 and Rs 20.
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