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    Posted: March 05 2006 at 12:45pm
Great INFO on Foods and Refrigeration:

Found this great link which discusses how to get by without refrigeration for many foods that you would normally refrigerate -- including mayonnaise, eggs, etc.

No Refrigeration, No Problem
http://tinyurl.com/p73fm
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Thanks for the posting, lots of good tips!

Does anyone have a site or a resource link, that can break down the amount
food needed on a daily basis for an adult/child, to help do a quick
calculation.

I think for water you need 2-3 gallons a day per adult. Thanks.
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I remember that the average usage if water under normal circumstances is in
fact 50 gallons per day, but it's not going to be normal is it.
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You need 1-2 gallons of water per day depending upon activity, size, and health.  The climate would also have an effect.
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Here's a link to the 2005 recommended dietary guidelines. Perhaps a little
too much information...


http://
www.health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2005/document/


Wait, I just found something I like better here:

http://
www.nutritiondata.com/calories-burned.html


You enter your age, height, weight and activity level and it tells you what
you need in terms of calories, carbs, fiber, protein, vitamins, minerals,
etc..

Funny thing about searching for this sort of info is that most of the sites
are about weight loss. Losing weight might not be a huge concern if the
SHTF...
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Good site thanks Otskot.
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I think this is what you are looking for??

http://www.providentliving.org/channel/1,11677,1706-1,00.htm l

Here is a BASIC list, but there is a calculator at the link. One pound of dry storage = about 1,600 calories. When replacing a pound of dry storage with canned goods, you will sometimes need 15 pounds of canned goods to equal the calories in a pound of dry storage!!! Figure the number of calories in a pound of each of your favorite foods and then figure out how many pounds of it equals 1,500 calories.

It takes about 15 pounds of green beans, but you can substitute 1 pound of raisins or velveeeta cheese about equally.

Suggested Amounts of Basic Foods for Home Storage*
(Per adult for one year.)

Grains
(wheat, rice, corn, rolled oats, spaghetti)
400 pounds
(181 kg)
72
#10 cans
(wheat)

Legumes
(dry beans, peas, lentils)

60 pounds
(27 kg)
12
#10 cans
(beans)
Powdered Milk 16 pounds
(7 kg)
4
#10 cans
Sugar or Honey 60 pounds
(27 kg)
10
#10 cans
Cooking Oil 10 quarts
(9 liters)
 
Salt 8 pounds
(3.6 kg)
 
Water**
(2 weeks)
14 gallons
(53 liters)
 

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For what it's worth, I lived quite comfortably aboard a 23 foot sailboat for 2 years without refrigeration, A/C, TV, Internet, or a flush toilet.   While it involves extra work, you can get used to the inconvienences.

Mayo will keep unrefrigerated as long as you use a clean knife each time and don't contaminate it.  Storing meat is problematic, but we made do with canned chickens, corned beef, tuna, and canned hams.   Fresh veggies and fruit will keep for days in a hanging mesh bag.

Yes, there were some inconviences. Warm beer sucks, but you get used to it. 

Water had to be fetched by dingy, often humped on our backs a mile or more to get it dockside.  We made do with 1-2 gals a day apiece.    This was in the Florida Keys, during the summer, and we consumed lots of liquids.  We did have saltwater for showers, but found that a spray bottle can be used quite effectively to shower off with.  A solar shower bag does a nice job of heating water, BTW. 

Cooking was done on a 2 burner coleman stove. But often, we'd just set a can of food out on deck and let the sun heat it up. Open and enjoy.

While meal drugery was common, it made us appreciate the rare treat (yep, we'd row to shore, walk for miles, just to get an ice cream cone!). 

Living without modern conviences is not always easy, but it can be done.  Billions are forced to  do it every day.  Some of us have even done it on purpose. 









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I lived on a boat for awhile too. Salty dishes and kerosene tainted butter suck too :-) I was too young to drink beer and anyway dad drank rum from the Barbadoes with a rooster on it. I can't remember the brand :-0

Why oh why couldn't people remember to keep the butter FAR away from the Kerosene lamp?

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Damn KatDoe, you've conjured the memory of the smell of dead fish, diesel fuel, a leaky head, and mildew in my mind.

I miss it so much, I could damn near cry


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I miss the island so much too :-( But I love my hubby more than a place...so...I'm in COLD, grey New England. My husbband tells me it's the same ocean...but I think he is lying to me :-)
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