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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

So absolutely anyone could be a human petrie dish! The trouble is that the more they spread the higher the chance of that happening.


Scary thought, isn't it? Every pandemic strain starts with one host. Don't forget that pigs are also an ideal mixing vessel for flu viruses, and even poultry can kick start a pandemic strain. To a virus, we're just receptors on cells - people are pigs are chickens. The hemagglutinin surface protein on a flu virus (the H in it's name) binds to a specific receptor on a cell like a lock and key, opening the door for the genetic material necessary to turn the infected cell into a virus factory, and the virus doesn't care what species the host is or where the receptors are as long as it gains access to them and successfully reproduces.

Influenza used to be a disease of waterfowl - ducks were it's primordial host. It existed as a harmless intestinal virus and was spread in the feces of migrating birds, but when the Chinese brought ducks into rice paddy fields in an early attempt at domestication about four thousand years ago, the virus found receptors that matched it's hemagglutinin protein in the human airway and influenza evolved from an intestinal virus to a respiratory disease. Big jump and we were responsible.

With really aggressive flu strains, any cell in a susceptible host can be targeted provided it has compatible receptors. Researchers investigating deadly outbreaks in poultry coined the term "flubola" after seeing influenza viruses binding to receptors in internal organs and initiating cytokine storms that literally liquified chickens from the inside. They were described as turning to "bloody jello". In 1918 (and more recently with H5N1) doctors documented the lungs of victims as been so badly damaged that they resembled "melted redcurrant jelly", and Spanish Flu would often cause people to bleed from the eyes, ears, nose, mouth and rectum as it bound to any and all available receptors and caused the immune system to initiate a bodywide cytokine storm, often killing the host in the process.

To a virus, we're just receptors on cells that can be hijacked to help it reproduce, and it doesn't differentiate between humans, chickens or pigs. Any one of them could give a virus the helping hand it needs to become the next pandemic candidate, just as H5N1 and H7N9 have been shown to be reassortments of wild avian viruses, and H1N1 had avian and swine components.

China currently has half a billion pigs and almost five billion chickens being raised in less than ideal conditions and surrounded on all sides by wildlife infected with a multitude of influenza viruses, and nobody is making any attempt to keep them separated Confused


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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

jacksdad, I did read something (somewere) about co-infections and H1N1 in recent cases.  If I find a link I post it. Also about H1N1 in Mexico with lots of similarities. (there is so much information on the net !)


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6+9 flu deaths ?

HOME / HEALTH NEWS / TEXAS REPORTS HIGH LEVEL OF INFLUENZA WITH SIX DEAD
Texas reports high level of influenza with six dead

 Dec. 21, 2013 at 2:04 AM   |   0 comm

 
ATLANTA, Dec. 21 (UPI) -- For the week ending Dec. 14, U.S. influenza increased nationwide, but Texas was hard hit with more than a dozen critically ill and six dead, officials say.
The influenza strain H1N1 -- the same strain that caused the 2009 pandemic -- killed six people and left 14 critically ill in the Greater Houston area, KHOU-TV in Houston reported.

The Harris County Health Department said at least three people died from the H1N1 flu virus -- all middle-age men, two with underlying health issues, including cardiovascular disease and obesity.

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H1N1 is also suspected in at least nine other deaths in eight regional hospitals, health officials say
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Read more: http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2013/12/21/Texas-reports-high-level-of-influenza-with-six-dead/UPI-35631387609497/#ixzz2oLFVp0Nm
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Sadly, I wonder how many of the 14 critically 10 days ago have died.
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I will add this, once we confirm it's an h1n1 variant, and a somewhat mutant strain slightly different from the 2009 pandemic h1n1, we go to defcon 5.   
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Good call, A. While I still don't believe we're looking at a virus that could spark a major pandemic (ie severe enough to cause widespread and prolonged societal disruption), it is worrying to see reports of complications and death in younger victims. We could be in for a very rough flu season.
It seems like H1N1 isn't done with us yet Disapprove
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Albert i agree. If it is H1N1 D255G and consistently being reported, defcon 5 is a good move. 

The more i read about this variant the more concerning it is. Apparently the D255G receptor has low reactor characteristic which means those that are vaccinated and have had wild H1N1 may have the effect of clearing a path for this virus. (recombinomics 2010)

http://www.recombinomics.comews/02211001/H1N1_Germany_G158E. - http://www.recombinomics.com/News/02211001/H1N1_Germany_G158E.html

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They're calling it Captain Trips.  Stern Smile
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On a more serious note, we're not hearing a lot about mild symptoms like we did in 2009.  Also wondering if we're dealing with seasonal h1n1 along with a variant from pandemic h1n1, the one that produces the false negatives.  Fully cloaked.
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Originally posted by Johnray1 Johnray1 wrote:

jacksdad, I subscribe to a yahoo service that notifies me when different topics are on the internet."Yahoo Alerts for Avian Flu" is what I am notified of. 50 researchers in Europe just called for a meeting to discuss the people who are experimenting with ways to make dangerous viruses more deadly. I think that we have all believed this has been going on for sometime. But some one must have gotten scarred and asked  publicly for the meeting. I suspect that all countries  and large corps. are all doing this. Johnray1


Crazy Dutch bastards!  We also have a crew up at Univ of WI doing similar "gain of function" research.  

Talk about playing with fire!  We cannot forget that the "Amerithrax" anthrax attack was carried out by Dr. Bruce Ivins, a civilian US Army bioweapons researcher who had a bizarre fixation on a university sorority.  He smuggled the bugs out of a super-secure facility and created much havoc after 9/11 attacks. 

Just because we CAN do something, scientifically, doesn't mean that we should.  

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If you believe this doctor smuggled Anthrax out of the most secure facility in the world just for some bizarre fixation.... sheeple!  

The Anthrax was traced back to the US strain. Caught red handed!!  oops... arrr  owww wasn't us.... He did it! The whole thing was very sus.

This guy famously overdosed on Tylenol?  really
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CStackDr.PH, I agree. But I think that they are looking for that one bug that they can reduce the earths population to 500,000. But they need a bug that the selected few can be vaccinated against.It is the "New World Order" stated objective.Johnray1
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CStackDr.PH, when they find this bug,virus or bacteria,people will not be dieing 8 or 10 at a time in one location.People will be dieing so fast that there will not even be time to burn them.Something that kills at this rate is what I am watching for. John
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jacksdad, I did put some info on coinfections and H1N1 (also a study H1N1 in dogs !) from PubMed on the general discussion part. Recombinomics in my opinion gives very good specific info. Flu is very unpredictable and complex. Even flu-experts are not able to make good estimates. A snowstorm in the wrong place, wrong time can make a difference. Resistance bacteria make things worse. 
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Illuminati's Great Harvest:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread493785/pg1

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza35.htm


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Lillie, if you are able please post a reply on this stream.

Were any of your family effected by the cause of your fathers death?

We know you are going through a difficult time and our prayers are with you.
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Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

Flu is very unpredictable and complex. Even flu-experts are not able to make good estimates. A snowstorm in the wrong place, wrong time can make a difference. Resistance bacteria make things worse. 


Couldn't agree more, Josh - nobody could have seen the way things are heading in China right now.
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Houston teenager killed by H1N1;
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by KHOU.com staff
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Posted on December 26, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Updated today at 5:44 PM
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H1N1 kills 6 people, leaves 14 critically ill in Greater Houston area
HOUSTON – A teenager from the Houston area died from H1N1, according to the City of Houston Health Department.
As of Thursday, there were 13 confirmed deaths from the H1N1 Flu in the greater Houston area. Katy Barton with the City of Houston Health Department confirmed the death on Thursday.
“It was my understanding it was H1N1,” Barton said.
The child was a Houston teenager, but because of privacy rules she could not reveal how old the child was or when they died.
According to the CDC, there have been four pediatric deaths nationwide from the flu. Texas, Alabama, Louisiana and New York remain hotbeds for flu activity.
Because of news like this, Juana Martinez was getting her children flu shots today at Legacy Community Health Services. A good idea her doctors told her – while also advising her not to worry too much.
“I don’t want people to have the idea that they should have panic,” said Dr. Omar Matuk. “They should get vaccinated. That’s the most important thing.”
Texas Children’s Hospital reports seven children admitted with the flu right now with three in Intensive Care.
“But the biggest thing that we advise people is to take a flu shot,” Barton said. “H1N1 is in this year’s formulation and it will provide protection for most people.”
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