Tracking the next pandemic: Avian Flu Talk |
Is H5N1 already here in our birds? |
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 2:13pm |
I think that our birds already have it. Dr Niman has stated that there was some North American ploymorphisums in the Birds that where dying in Europe. There are reports of odd behaviours in Crows and other birds. Starlings are missing from around here, we had warm winter, so where are they? What do you think? |
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I think its allready here and we just dont know it!Or thay know it but wont tell us!
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I think we still have a few more weeks before the birs will start coming out of there hiding spots....We had a mild day couple days back and I could hear the birds sining away..and now today dreary and cold again and all is quiet...tomorrow suppose to go to plus 7 here..yeehaw bye bye snow
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fafhrd
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On a related note, I know some folks were commenting on missing
hummingbirds. They probably have an entirely different
seasonality here in Arizona, but I just saw a pair going through a
mating dance outside my window. The female sat patiently while
the male warbled at her. Then finally she lost it and shrieked at
him. He promptly flew off. Typical.
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I had a little bird,
his name was Enza; I opened the window, and influenza. |
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maybe they don't all have it yet?
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http://www.recombinomics.com/News/03080602/H5N1_OIE_America_ Austrailia.html just click the different words and you get even more info. |
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seesthelight
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I heard birds sing this past week...its been along time since the winter is now just coming to an end here that I heard them-but the birds are back...the big black crows in the trees in th cemetary where my son is were in all the trees....I was wondering when they would start falling from the trees..LOL Now that is morbid. sorry. I think the birds have not yet become sick with the virus here but I do not think its far away before they are sick too. I predict fall or next winter to see problems with people and maybe by the end of summer we will know if the birds here have spread it all around. The only way I think human illness would be sooner than fall or winter is if China is withholding some real secret info on this bird flu thing over there. We can't know the extent of China's problem with what they tell us, I think we would need to live there to know that. |
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Yes just WHAT kind of Surprise has CHina for us?
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araywood
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I am an avid watermen. I live in florida and spend alot of time at the beach and in the everglades. Those dam blue jays still wake me up. That dam red headed woodpecker still is pecking on my metal lamp post. Those noisey parrots at the gas station is still squaking up a storm. The 3 black ducks hangout while we are wakeboarding. no dead birds in the everglades. So far so good? |
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TomMI
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Hey Siameselade, It just struck me that nobody ever comments on this site from China or is it that Ive never seen it here? Lotsa Chinese speak english believe it or not. Just goes to show I guess that censorship runs rampant over there. Sooo, I continue to take everthing I read from China with a grain of...rice?
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elbows
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My best guess as to the reality of Bird Flu int eh America's, is that youve had it for a while, but in either very low amounts (ie only a very low %age of birds infected) or a strain that doesnt do too much. What will probably change in the coming months, is that you will get a different strain being brought in, and maybe a much higher percentage of birds willg et infected, with the usual consequences. Will it be enough to cause significant infections on poultry farms and in other mammals and humans? Only time will tell, I mean it still isnt clear how much bird flu there is in Western Europe. Here in the UK we still havent found any, as far as we know. It could well be that Europe isnt in such a differnt position to the US right now, we may have some H5N1 but not enough to have made a huge impact yet, but int he coming months new waves of bird migration may bring new strains or new quantities of bird flu to our region.
It seems that there is a lack of data about the actual amount of H5N1 that is around in different aprts of the world. We only find out for sure that there is a nasty H5N1 when it has very obvious effects. |
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Elizabeth
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We have a lot of birds here year round, and I have yet to see any that are dead or acting strangely. I'm in CA. I have started to avoid pigeons & seagulls, which isn't that easy since I work in a coastal town... |
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