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UN Rehearse Plans for Bird Flu

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    Posted: March 08 2006 at 4:03pm
UN officials rehearse plans for bird flu pandemic
By Mark Turner at the United Nations
Published: March 8 2006 22:25 | Last updated: March 8 2006 22:25

Earlier this week a group of the UN’s most senior managers met on the
38th floor of their New York headquarters to consider a frightening
scenario.

Bird flu had reached New York and could now be transmitted between
humans.

Travel restrictions were in place, aviation was at a standstill,
communications were under strain, and UN staff were getting sick.

In some countries riots had broken out and UN missions were under siege
as people tried to get hold of scarce medicines; national police forces
were decimated.

Vulnerable populations were crying for international assistance.

The group, moderated by the UN’s avian flu point man David Nabarro,
was faced with some difficult home truths. When a real global crisis hits,
what truly are the UN’s essential functions and who needs to carry them
out?

Which officials absolutely had to come to UN headquarters, and possibly
stay there for six to eight weeks away from their families? What was the
UN capable of delivering in the least developed countries, what needed to
be stockpiled and how would finances flow?

Some of the answers, although preliminary, were revealing. Participants
felt most inter-governmental meetings could and would have to be
stopped, but the Security Council – through teleconferencing, possibly –
would need to continue.

Many staff would probably have to stay at home for several weeks; the
UN’s iconic headquarters might only be able to sustain a couple of
hundred officials for a prolonged period, and that would have to include
security, communications and medical services.

While the UN would probably need to maintain a symbolic high-level
presence at HQ, and carry out some co-ordination activities for
peacekeeping and humanitarian operations, many decisions could be
devolved to country offices.

Mark Malloch Brown, the UN’s incoming deputy secretary-general, has
called for answers over the coming weeks, in the kind of exercise flu
experts are suggesting all international organisations and corporations
should be considering.

Not all scenarios are so dramatic. Bird flu may not evolve to human
transmission at all, or may spread slowly, affecting different countries at
different times.

But the spread could be very rapid, and the UN is making contingency
plans for the worst.

Draft UN guidelines, to be released soon, call for a prioritisation of the
organisation’s work in the event of a pandemic, the definition of critical
staff, and a review of its facilities and security.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote meewee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 4:12pm
Now add that article to this one and you tell me; What the He!! is going oon and tha our govt.'s are unaware!!! 

US placing special operations troops in embassies

By Will DunhamWed Mar 8, 2:46 PM ET

The Pentagon is placing small numbers of elite special operations troops at U.S. embassies in about two dozen countries to gather information on potential terrorist threats in volatile locations, defense officials said on Wednesday.

Defense officials said the troops were stationed at embassies with the full approval of the U.S. ambassador in the countries but worked for the military's regional commander in collecting data useful for counter-terrorism missions.

The program highlights what some critics inside and outside the government have called the Pentagon's eagerness under Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to engage in intelligence- gathering functions typically handled by other government agencies, notably the CIA.

Bryan Whitman, a senior Pentagon spokesman, said the program had been going on for "a couple of years." Members of these Military Liaison Elements, or MLEs, come under the purview of the military's Special Operations Command, based at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida, Whitman said.

"They don't hide the fact that they're in the military," Whitman said.

"They can provide situational awareness for the geographical commanders," he added. The Pentagon assigns senior commanders to head U.S. military operations in various regions, for example the Pacific region or the Middle East.

Officials said the groups are operating in regions where terrorist threats exist or could emerge. They declined to reveal the specific countries but said the total was about two dozen.

The New York Times, which first reported on the program, said the troops were in countries in Africa, Southeast Asia and South America.

Defense officials said the Military Liaison Elements could have as few as one person and at most "very small groups of individuals," and that the total number of troops worldwide performing the function was perhaps a few dozen.

"It's not a huge investment of people and resources, but it can yield big dividends," said Maj. Paul Swiergosz, another Pentagon spokesman.

Rumsfeld is a big proponent of special operations forces -- more highly trained and assigned more specialized, sensitive and secret jobs than regular military units.

Under Rumsfeld, special operations have been given more money and manpower, and the Bush administration has given Special Operations Command the lead role in military counter-terrorism endeavors.

"There is plenty of work to go around," said CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano. "One key to success is that intelligence activities in a given country be coordinated, a process in which the (CIA) chief of station plays a crucial role."

Defense officials acknowledged that people in other parts of the government might feel threatened or disenfranchised by this type of Pentagon work, but emphasized the need in the government to gather and share information better.

The role played by members of these special operations teams differs from that of U.S. military attaches in embassies, whose tasks include liaising with a host nation's military.

(Additional reporting by David Morgan)

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OK Can Anyone see the connection??? the US is moving on this but it is not for what they say is going on!

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There is NO WAY that Homeland Security or the Dept. Of Defense would allow this type of info released if it were for the stated purpose! This is a blind used to cover , but give a heads up to other govt.s world-wide that they will give a half-hearted attempt to protect their embassies In other words CYA! They need bodies on the ground that will tell them exactly what other govt's. are doing while the pandemic is going on...are they getting ready to fire missiles etc.? So they can be prepared to defend.....whatever! This is serious folks take heed! Special OP's just does not get stationed for no reason!

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I got my rad tabs....

 

Yes I see where your going with this....pandemic equals your pants are down and we will strike at your bu....and that can go eighter way,how many countries around the world would love to have the chance to launch anything they have...

 

 

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All we need is the truth!Why is it so hard for them to tell us what the hell is going on?Like there watching out for us and we cant handle it.I can and well if thay give me the chance!
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this is the take on the US Embassies report which comes from The
Guardian
UK left-wing paper and highly regarded.

The new Pentagon espionage arm, reported by the New
York Times, was designed by Mr Rumsfeld to cut the military's
dependence on the CIA for human intelligence.
"These small teams help gain situational awareness for geographic
combatant commanders, and assist in their planning and preparation in
support of the global war on terror," a Pentagon official said yesterday.

The official said the Military Liaison Elements (MLEs) would be based with
the knowledge of the local US ambassador and the authorities in their
host country. They would also help to train local forces in counter-
terrorism. "MLEs are not deployed as forward elements of pending
operations," the official said.

Defence analysts said Mr Rumsfeld had been pushing for an expanded
role for the military since the September 11 attacks, and in 2002 he gave
the Special Operations Command (Socom) authority to help arm and train
foreign troops.

"With the military activities in Afghanistan and Iraq, it comes as no
surprise that you would have additional assets in play to help with the
collection of intelligence for the purpose of military targeting," said Fred
Burton of intelligence consultants Stratfor. He said such teams would
probably be used in the Horn of Africa, the Philippines, Indonesia and, in
a limited way, Malaysia, as well as the border areas of Argentina, Brazil,
Paraguay, Colombia and Mexico, where the US has increasing concerns
about the spill over of drug activities across its borders.

Most US embassies traditionally include defence attaches and other
military personnel who report to the Pentagon's Defence Intelligence
Agency.

The new teams would include army Green Berets and rangers, as well as
Navy Seals, and specialised marine and air force units, and would have a
more direct military role, the New York Times said.

The Pentagon's move into what is traditional CIA terrain has caused some
bureaucratic concern. Critics fear it could deepen the mistrust between
rival agencies.

"There are real turf problems, and there is still going to be an insistence
by the CIA that their chief of station is the authority, and has the lead for
all the intelligence activities in the country," said Melissa Mahle, a former
CIA officer.

"Socom does not nicely and neatly fit into a box. I expect there will be
some tension in lines of authority."



I dont know what to make of either report at the moment.
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Sorta feels like Katrina all over again the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing...and they turn the full body away...
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Let's say the globe is unstable as result of H2H pandemic, well that's
accepted.
The south Russia situation has already been accused of being commercial
attempt to gain all the poultry industy by oner company (Russian co.
named
Resource). Over 10,000 chickens dying each day since 20th Feb this year.
Let's then say that it was not commercial but Military.

Russia has always wanted a warm water port by driving itself through the
Balkans (this is hundreds of years old this idea and true). So all of a
sudden South Russia can be made to look unstable by H2H reporting
(true or even false). Russia moves troops to borders with Balkan countries
like Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, etc. on the premise that they are
preventing movements in or out. Romania, Builgaria, Serbia then say help
we have unrest, etc.! Russia moves as far as into Serbia under same
premise. Hey Presto: New stand-off between East and West. Well it's a
thought? Good job Hungary is part of EU. but would that stop Russia in a
'crisis'.
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I firmly believe that the US Military intelligence in Embassies is mostly relatd to the so cvalled war on terror, not bird flu. The military would be interested in keeping up-to-date with the flu situation in many countries, but such intelligence is more likely to be handled by existing agencies and embassy staff, with their sources in the agricultural and human health sectors, rather than military stuff.

Its not impossible that its related to bird flu I suppose, but its certainly not obvious or an assumption that is safe to make. I would bet against it, if I had to bet.
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