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KiwiMum
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Hi everyone, could we try to get a comprehensive list of what medical supplies we should all have at home in order to treat ourselves and our families and hopefully stop it from developing into the severer form that needs hospitalization. Can we try to give quantities for one person so we can scale up as needed. So this is what I have, we are a family of four. 300 paracetamols and 200 ibuprofen per person. Vicks vapour rub - Techno's recommendation the other day, 1 jar per person Cough syrup - 6 bottles for 4 people Cough syrup with morphine - 3 bottles for 4 people Various lozenges, about 6 large packs Olbas oil Codeine tablets - I have about 60 in total. Equipment A blood oxygen finger monitor A blood pressure cuff Stethescope A digital non contact thermometer, plus an old fashioned under the tongue mercury one for back up. Spare batteries for the above. What am I missing or don't have enough of?
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LOL we can't get cough syrup and codeine tablets here in the U.S. without a docs script. Too many addicts!
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Benadryl, EpiPen, inhalers, tylenol
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KiwiMum
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No we need a script too. I just asked my doctor for one and she gave it to me. Lol. The codeine tablets I was given as painrelief after a recent operation but I didn't need them, so I kept them, just in case.
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Is the epipen for people with allergies? Or does it have some other use? And same question for the inhalers? Benadryl is a cold and flu med I think. Tylenol a pain killer available over the counter. I'm hoping the ibuprofen would do the same job.
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I'm probably gonna need some joint supplements - apparently I have moderate cartilage loss in my inner knee joints - at least on the right knee - they told me nothing about my left knee so I'll ask when I see again. I refilled my inhaler, have my epipens, have benadryl, and got more ibuprofen even though it doesn't help with my knee pain (it helps with other pain luckily)
So adding to the list - various supplements (fiber, calcium, magnesium, zinc *those three can also be a combined supplement*, vitamin D) |
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FluMom
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Ibuprofen will do the job. Epipen for people with deadly allergies, bees, nuts, shellfish so they will not die. Inhalers for people with asthma or COPD I think too. Benadryl for allergies like pollen but I use for sleeping pill works great for that too. Will dry up your drippy sinuses like Dr. Campbell in Northern England...
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Piedylte or Gatorade for electrolyte replenishment
Zofran for nausea (rx) Anti diarreahal medicine (Immodium) |
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Usk
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Fish antibiotics can be used for secondary infections like strep and neosporin ointment, aloe for burns and spray sun burn relief with lidocaine can be used for minor emergencies that you don’t want to go out to the hot zone if you don’t have to. I have sutures and other emergency supplies that most can not get unless you know someone. You should also get a room humidifier for those struggling to breath. You can add peppermint or mint to the water to help open airways and eucalyptus as long as patient is not allergic
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For elderly or people with untreated or treated high blood pressure you should never use ibuprofen it increases blood pressure. Tylenol is the only one you can use or aspirin. Low dose aspirin can also save someone who is having a stroke or heart attack by crushing and putting below tongue. Buys you time til ambulance comes
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Can people with high blood pressure have Naproxen? I have 2 seniors in my life - both of whom have had issues with high blood pressure on/off the last couple years... I use Ibuprofen and Naproxen (Naproxin sp?) that I find effective for me (Tylenol does NOTHING for me/pain) but no idea if they can take it then? |
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KiminNM
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Mucinex for chest congestion, it's an expectorent. (Generic is guaifenesin - but the Name brand is the only one that lasts 12 hours) Loosens it so you can cough it up.
Cough Suppressant: Dextromethorphan (DM on the bottles) if you don't have high blood pressure. RX cough syrup if you do. (Typically, cough it up during they day, suppress it at night so you can sleep. If it's a dry cough, suppressant all the time.) Decongestant for sinus congestion. Type depends on individual tolerance. Pseudophedrine if you can take it (very bad for blood pressure), others if you can't. Raw Honey. I have asthma and often get bronchitis - and hot (not boiling) water with honey is a lifesaver. Most people recommend adding lemon but it irritates my throat. But I will drink a gallon of hot water with honey a day and get a LOT of relief. If you have anyone with asthma or COPD in the house - albuterol for the nebulizer. Potentially a back up nebulizer if you only have one. Vicks sinus inhalers - I just discovered them this winter and they are amazing. They ease sinus pain when I can't take a decongestant. (High blood pressure, so can only take them sparingly) Benadryl as stated above - an antihistamine that works wonders for: Runny nose due to a cold, allergies, allergic reactions like hives. Only lasts 4 hours. Also works for some as a sleep medicine. Generic has worked fine for me. Club soda/seltzer water and saltines - my go to stuff when I'm nauseous. Peppermint essential oil (do NOT diffuse if you have young kids or pets, but you can sniff it from the bottle) USK mentioned aspirin - you can buy powdered aspirin - just make sure you get the one without the caffeine. For other first aid needs: Triple Antibiotic Ointment - I prefer the one that also has pain control Benadryl Cream - if anyone in the house ever breaks out in hives Disinfectant: lots of options, iodine wipes are great, can use on pets too. Bandaids: all of them Gauze pads Non stick gauze pads NuSkin is optional Butterfly strips to hold wounds together are optional First aid tape Bandage self cling wrap - the colored kind they sell for use on pets is usually cheaper. Burn gel (grabbing a hot pan on the stove - you want to be able to treat it without going to a doctor) Cortisone cream or spray: calm any itching Eye wash Sting relief pads or StingEze Sourcing: Amazon, CVS.com or drugstore of your choice, https://www.e-firstaidsupplies.com/ I just ordered a bunch from e-firstaidsupplies.com last night, because they had by far the cheapest price on individual packets. I want to be able to hand a few to neighbors if they're in need, and not have to worry about a tube being shared/contaminated. (first aid kit refills if those are what you're interested in) Other stuff: If anyone has chronic pain, SalonPas pain patches are wonderful, as is Stopain Roll on. Antacids!!!!! Oh - lozenges are great to have (I buy the huge bags of Ricola at Sam's Club), but Sucrets or Chloraseptic lozenges should be on hand too, for painful sore throats. Sinus saline spray And, I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, Boost Oxygen. An over the counter way to raise your O2 levels at least a little bit. When I had bronchitis and an asthma flareup, a large can lasted maybe a week? With something like this I would hit it hard and often, so I'd do a few large cans per person. (Online from swansons health with a coupon, or in person at big 5 with a coupon) Last first aid note: If you have dogs and cats - trim their nails! You don't want a bad scratch while you're SIP. |
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KiminNM
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It really depends. I can *usually* take ibuprofen without it affecting my blood pressure. And I often take it daily. But every once in a while it will affect me. My body is *weird*. It'd be a good idea to check with their doctor(s): I can increase my bp medicine to compensate for meds I'm taking that raise it, but that's with my dr's blessing. |
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FluMom
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Anyone getting Boost Oxygen?
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hachiban08
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Even though you can get about 50 instant cold packs for less than 25$ on Amazon, seeing as I just went through two to get it to work (the first cold pack was a dud and stopped being cold in less than 10 mins), I am so glad there are DIYs for cold packs, with the assumption that electricity is fine. https://www.themakeyourownzone.com/5-ways-to-make-homemade-ice-packs/ I had no idea about the corn syrup.
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KiwiMum
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The other things I have are rehydration powder that can be mixed with water to make an isotonic hydrating drink. And silver burn dressings and parafin burn dressings. . I once burnt my wrist really badly and was unable to get to a doctor for 3 days due to flooding. My wrist took weeks to heal and the doc said that if I had had these dressings it would have been so much better. I have them in 3 sizes and a whole heap of sutures.
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KiwiMum
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I looked at the Boost Oxygen but it's expensive here and I think once you open it, it keeps coming until it's all out of the can. I was hoping you could take a breath now and then as needed, but I don't think you can.
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FluMom
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It says 200 - 1 second "shots". So I think you press it 1 second and breath. I have a couple of them I have had pneumonia twice so I have a couple of them just in case. Thinking of getting a couple more.
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KiminNM
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correct. You can take as short or as long as breath as you like. I have two or three cans open at all times. I keep a medium one in my purse and a large one in my living room and sometimes one in my bedroom. Nothing leaks out unless you're pressing it to inhale. Since I had bronchitis last month and I have asthma, I ordered I think 12 cans. If you're in the US and want help tracking down the best price feel free to message me. The large cans retail at $15 but I never pay more than 12 for them using coupons at different stores. Every once in awhile you can get them a little cheaper. But since they work when I'm sick, when I have asthma, when I have a migraine, and when I have anxiety - they're a must have for me. |
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I have some boost o2. But I don't think it will do much good for pneumonia. Would be better to get an oxygen concentrator. People with pneumonia need oxygen by liter per minute. A few puffs here and there won't come anywhere near being sufficient.
I used boost at high altitude a while back and the can still has o2 in it. I checked. |
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I used to have burn dressings, I need to check and see if I still do. I know I ordered burn gel, and I saw the dressings but I think I was in a hurry to go to bed so I just ordered without looking at them closer. |
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1 thing I found in my first aid supplies that I didn't know I had, smelling salts.
Probably time to find where I stashed my first aid books and get them in a central location. Wrist and ankle and knee supports, or Ace bandages, all might come in handy. and those little finger cut things that you can slip over your finger if you have a cut are useful too. |
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Naproxen is the worst to use for people with high blood pressure. If joint pain is bad Tumeric capsules once a day are a great natural remedy and actually lowers blood pressure. Co Q 10 is also a must for people on Statins it reliefs muscle aches and pain
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Q10 is such a good compliment for statins, Germany has it available on perscription as an adjuvant.
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It works for Migraines??? Have never heard of it, I see there is a 'similar' product here - comes in flavours??? |
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Ibuprophen won't impact BP, but if anyone is on blood thinners, use it sparingly. Ibuprophen will thin blood further. Same as aspirin. I know aspirin can buy some time during a heart attack, but I don't know about stroke. Could you provide a link to that information? No worries if you can't. I'm good at doing my own research |
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It depends on the cause of the stroke.
If the stroke is caused by a blood clot or fatty deposit in the artery or vein, aspirin is a great treatment. If the stroke is a bleed, it will bring the end on faster or increase the damage. How do you tell? CT, CAT, PET or MRI! There is an indication of probability if the person has had a stroke before. Then the stroke this time is likely from the same cause. But if it is first time around even doctors insist on a scan before treatment. |
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KiwiMum
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Thanks Penham. I have 3 unused inhalers that were prescribed and never used and I've been wondering if I should throw them out but I'm going to read up about them and keep them. Thanks. They may come in useful.
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They still work, even when expired.
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Here you go on when to use NSaids
https://www.getreliefresponsibly.com/otc-pain-relievers/what-are-nsaids |
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Aspirin Taken Right After a Stroke May Prevent a Second One
By Andrea M. Braslavsky une 1, 2000 -- Chalk another one up for aspirin: Researchers have concluded that giving aspirin to stroke victims as soon as they arrive at the hospital reduces their risk of having a second stroke. In the first few days after having a stroke, patients are at high risk of having another one, says Richard Peto, a professor at Oxford University and co-author of an analysis published in the journal Stroke. "We found that aspirin didn't do very much for repairing the damage done already by the initial stroke, but ... it reduced the likelihood of having another stroke in the hospital," he tells WebMD. |
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What's more, he says, it appears to be beneficial to give aspirin to stroke victims right away even if doctors aren't 100% sure which type of stroke the patient has had.
There are two kinds of strokes: ischemic stroke, caused by a clot that blocks a blood vessel supplying the brain with blood, and hemorrhagic or bleeding stroke, caused by a leaky blood vessel that bleeds into the brain. A CT scan of the head can help a doctor determine if a stroke is the ischemic or hemorrhagic type. Study author Zheng Ming Chen, MD, DPhil, of Oxford University, says in a press release that preventing nine strokes or deaths out of 1,000 patients may not sound like much: "But if you consider there are several million strokes worldwide each year, by treating one million of those with one year of aspirin therapy, this will prevent about 20,000 strokes or deaths." Even hemorrhagic stroke patients who were inadvertently given aspirin did reasonably well, says Peto. "There were about 800 patients who, in retrospect, had probably been misdiagnosed and they weren't any worse off than patients who hadn't received aspirin. "I think aspirin should become routine for suspected stroke in the way that it is for suspected heart attack," he says. "What we have shown is that ... the sooner you go ahead and act, the better, in terms of avoiding recurrence." |
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I did. Maybe not enough or again maybe not needed. Only 3 canisters. I work in public safety and have children and step children ranging from 46 to 12. My youngest is the 12 year old and I have a 1 year old granddaughter, and 2 in their 20's. Nobody is doing anything but me. I have spent so much money in the last few weeks. Its things I can cycle out later . When my husband finds out! I was a member here earlier and I think my name was grits. I had trouble logging in a few ago and re-registered. I welcome any advice and thoughts. I just want to do the best for my family and friends that are not worried. Seeing pictures or Italy and shelves with nothing there.
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FluMom
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Hi CST, welcome back. We have all have been spending money so join the club...lol. We hope we have a couple of months before it goes community wide. Albert has called it Pandemic and we all agree. He thinks WHO will call it in a couple of weeks. We all know our stores will look like Italy if they ask us to SIP.
CRS who knows does not think this will be anything worse than a cold on steroids. But we are all prepped up our a££es. Any questions just ask away! |
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Welcome back. I have full freezers and have bought quite a bit of easy food that doesn't need any cooking at all, things like crackers, tuna, mayo, tinned fruit, biscuits etc. The main thing I'm worried about is medicines being in short supply and so I've stocked up well on things we might need if we all become infected to enable us to stay at home and treat ourselves and hopefully recover without having to go to the pharmacy, doctors or hospital. Obviously if we get serious complications then yes we'd have to seek help, but I'm hoping we can manage at home if need be. I think these things will sell out very quickly. There have been some excellent recommendations in this thread. I have a shopping list ready for tomorrow.
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Something I haven't seen anyone mention is facial tissue - Kleenex, or handkerchiefs to wash/disinfect or something... As this is cold/respiratory (and can be stomach upsetting) you'll likely go through boxes of it, I know when a loved one was in hospital recently - they went through BOXES of the little skimpy ones they give patients in their rooms then. They went through a box in 3-12 hrs.
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One other consideration when stockpiling meds - make sure they’re ones that you know are safe for whoever might need them. Naproxen has already been mentioned, and one of the side effects is water retention. I was prescribed it a few years ago, and one dose shut my kidneys down - fortunately it’s temporary, but I didn’t pee for almost a day and a half.
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"Buy it cheap. Stack it deep"
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I just ordered a spirometer and pulse oximeter off of Amazon. This may sound silly, but I also ordered a cookbook I had seen years ago...its called "A Man, A Can and a Plan Second Helpings" and basically its a cookbook making meals from mostly canned goods throwing in some meat or protein here and there. I liked the layout of it before, simple and great photos. There are a few in that series.
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This is a great cookbook for emergencies. |
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