3 Clades ("strains") New info

Twitter is not exactly a reliable source, so here is the CDC talking about the 3 strains in a lancet article.

Same story, respected source.  No one else has caught on yet.  Nice find!!  Well caught!!

We're going to have the V Clade in the U.S. as well as one of the cases was infected in Italy. 

AI wrote: Here's a news item I came across that has a Taiwan virologist claiming there are 5 strains circulating in the US and that it originated in the US. So the question is exactly how many strains are circulating? Taiwan Virologist Suggests the Coronavirus Originated in the US Then, Taiwan ran a TV news program on February,27,(click here to access video (Chinese), that presented diagrams and flow charts suggesting the coronavirus originated in the US. (6) Below is a rough translation, summary and analysis of selected content of that newscast. (see map below) The man in the video is a top virologist and pharmacologist who performed a long and detailed search for the source of the virus. He spends the first part of the video explaining the various haplotypes (varieties, if you will), and explains how they are related to each other, how one must have come before another, and how one type derived from another. He explains this is merely elementary science and nothing to do with geopolitical issues, describing how, just as with numbers in order, 3 must always follow 2. One of his main points is that the type infecting Taiwan exists only in Australia and the US and, since Taiwan was not infected by Australians, the infection in Taiwan could have come only from the US. The basic logic is that the geographical location with the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing. He demonstrated that only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, and England, Belgium and Germany), constituting a thesis that the haplotypes in other nations may have originated in the US. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/chinas-coronavirus-a-shocking-update-did-the-virus-originate-in-the-us/

Here's a news item I came across that has a Taiwan virologist claiming there are 5 strains circulating in the US and that it originated in the US. So the question is exactly how many strains are circulating?

Taiwan Virologist Suggests the Coronavirus Originated in the US

Then, Taiwan ran a TV news program on February,27,(click here to access video (Chinese), that presented diagrams and flow charts suggesting the coronavirus originated in the US. (6)

Below is a rough translation, summary and analysis of selected content of that newscast. (see map below)

The man in the video is a top virologist and pharmacologist who performed a long and detailed search for the source of the virus. He spends the first part of the video explaining the various haplotypes (varieties, if you will), and explains how they are related to each other, how one must have come before another, and how one type derived from another. He explains this is merely elementary science and nothing to do with geopolitical issues, describing how, just as with numbers in order, 3 must always follow 2.

One of his main points is that the type infecting Taiwan exists only in Australia and the US and, since Taiwan was not infected by Australians, the infection in Taiwan could have come only from the US.

The basic logic is that the geographical location with the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing. He demonstrated that only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, and England, Belgium and Germany), constituting a thesis that the haplotypes in other nations may have originated in the US.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/chinas-coronavirus-a-shocking-update-did-the-virus-originate-in-the-us/

Technophobe wrote: Twitter is not exactly a reliable source, so here is the CDC talking about the 3 strains in a lancet article. Same story, respected source.  No one else has caught on yet.  Nice find!!  Well caught!!

The lancet link wasn't in your post, any chance you have it?  Someone is arguing with me about it, and I'd love to just send the link and shut them up.  ;-)   Thanks!

(taking an ER dr's word that the US only has the mild strain so we'll be fine.)     YCFS. 

KiminNM wrote: Technophobe wrote: Twitter is not exactly a reliable source, so here is the CDC talking about the 3 strains in a lancet article. Same story, respected source.  No one else has caught on yet.  Nice find!!  Well caught!! The lancet link wasn't in your post, any chance you have it?  Someone is arguing with me about it, and I'd love to just send the link and shut them up.  ;-)   Thanks! (taking an ER dr's word that the US only has the mild strain so we'll be fine.)     YCFS.

Given the extent of international travel to the US during this viral outbreak, the logical probability of multiple strains of the virus in the US is extremely high.

AI wrote: KiminNM wrote: Technophobe wrote: Twitter is not exactly a reliable source, so here is the CDC talking about the 3 strains in a lancet article. Same story, respected source.  No one else has caught on yet.  Nice find!!  Well caught!! The lancet link wasn't in your post, any chance you have it?  Someone is arguing with me about it, and I'd love to just send the link and shut them up.  ;-)   Thanks! (taking an ER dr's word that the US only has the mild strain so we'll be fine.)     YCFS.  Given the extent of international travel to the US during this viral outbreak, the logical probability of multiple strains of the virus in the US is extremely high.

Right???  Head in sand to minimize the danger to themselves I guess.... but that was from an ER doc.  Aaargh. 

Sorry folks,  cut and paste seems the only option,  I can't make this a hyperlink - I don't know why.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30251-8/fulltext

This was the relevant bit (or rather the red bit at the top of this):

[and]

As the sequence similarity plot revealed changes in genetic distances among viruses across the 2019-nCoV genome, we did additional phylogenetic analyses of the major encoding regions of representative members of the subgenus Sarbecovirus. Consistent with the genome phylogeny, 2019-nCoV, bat-SL-CoVZC45, and bat-SL-CoVZXC21 clustered together in trees of the 1a and spike genes (appendix p 3). By contrast, 2019-nCoV did not cluster with bat-SL-CoVZC45 and bat-SL-CoVZXC21 in the 1b tree, but instead formed a distinct clade with SARS-CoV, bat-SL-CoVZC45, and bat-SL-CoVZXC21 (appendix p 3), indicative of potential recombination events in 1b, although these probably occurred in the bat coronaviruses rather than 2019-nCoV. Phylogenetic analysis of the 2019-nCoV genome excluding 1b revealed similar evolutionary relationships as the full-length viral genome