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ventured out to grocery store this week during the senior high risk set aside time. Thinking this would be the best time,  NOT. It was very crowded. More crowded than it  would have been  during normal business daytime hours pre covid 19.  YOu could not stay 6 feet apart as the store isle are not wide enough for you to even pass. and it was like always multiple people in each isle. It was extremely stressful just trying to shop.  The store did have cashier sneeze guards in place and "wait here signs" on the floor at register.  Announcement were made to maintain 6 feet away or two grocery carts lengths apart from each other but that is a joke when the isles are not wide enough. 
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From my recent post (Gestalt #17) by monotreme 2 April 202

(btw...myself personally has not stepped foot into any place of business since Friday March 13-after reading here and elsewhere of crowds, people not obeying rules, etc. I just am too wary to do so)


"Shop until you drop, literally

In many areas of the US, and indeed the.world, some form of social distancing is in place.

But there is one big exception: grocery stores.

Preppers buy food before a crisis, not just because they are concerned about shortages, but because they want to reduce their risk of exposure to infectious agents.

I fear that shopping for groceries may be a weak link in our attempt to slow the spread of virus.

 Grocery store clerks are almost certainly getting infected given the number of people they are exposed to. And shoppers are likely getting infected by each other and grocery store clerks.

To avoid this, it would be best if people ordered their food online or by phone, had it collected by an in store shopper, and put by the curb for safe retrieval by customers."
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Easier said than done in some places.  
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Agreed many areas in the country don't have delivery options from local grocery stores and ones that offer pick up/ delivery there are general limited or no pick up times available. Or if they have a pick up time it can be week or more, not everyone can wait that long.


I agree the grocery store is very likely possibility for coming in contact with covid 19.  Maybe they need to limit number of customers in store at a time but have heard that people are waiting outside in lines to enter in stores that have done this and not keeping their distance while waiting to enter. 
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Well I was thinking about going to the store another time for fresh milk since this looks like it's going to last a lot longer than originally thought. But changed my mind when I listened/watched the emergency city council meeting of the larger town near mine (my town is pop. 1200). They were saying our area was not going to peak until about April 21,22, about a week behind NY. That between now and then we should only go out for essentials/food and think twice if you really need it. Because right now you put yourself at a risk of dying. 
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Had a friend go to Costco today around noon, 90 minute wait to get into the store.
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Originally posted by Penham Penham wrote:

Well I was thinking about going to the store another time for fresh milk since this looks like it's going to last a lot longer than originally thought. But changed my mind when I listened/watched the emergency city council meeting of the larger town near mine (my town is pop. 1200). They were saying our area was not going to peak until about April 21,22, about a week behind NY. That between now and then we should only go out for essentials/food and think twice if you really need it. Because right now you put yourself at a risk of dying. 


I decided yesterday to break into my powdered milk stocks instead of going out for fresh over the next month.  Same with eggs.  I'll use the powdered eggs I store for just such emergencies.   I'll just have to live without fresh fruit and veg and eat canned.  (which I hate!!!)  I think your decision is a wise one, Penham.  Stay safe and healthy!
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Witchmisspelled, I forgot I had some individual UHT cartons of white and chocolate milk. Later today I will probably have to break into my powdered milk too, but I think I will mix some of the UHT cartons with to make it taste a bit better. I still have 4 dozen eggs and a bunch of powdered so I'm good there. 
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Well my powder eggs were too old so just ordered one can.  I don't use many eggs.  So now I have a lot of old eggs and milk alternate to throw out.  Oh, well I just missed the Pandemic by 7 years for some of my food to be "good"...LOL!  Oh well!
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Do you all have Oberweiss Dairy in your area? I am using them to get butter and a few other things (I dont do milk) although I have a few cans of evaporated for any recipes that call for milk.
We also have a local farm-to-table that delivers to our area...and I have a standing order for milk from them to go to my son's house (he is the big milk drinker!) along with fresh greens to us both for salads, etc.
Then there is the local farm stand which is drive up and buy...they have a prebagged box of fresh fruit and veg and you can add farm eggs to it.

I guess I am pretty lucky here. I am looking also at ordering from Schwans in the future if i am going to be in this house for many months. I did a grocery pickup from Kroger last week, but had to wait a week for a time slot...and I just like the other options better. I will not go in a store as much as I love to shop at Aldi...not taking chances.
My 89 year old cancer survivor father though is still roaming the stores in Northern Virginia...smashing my head....I called my mom and asked her what in the heck is he looking for?? What do they need? I have 5 siblings out of 8 living streets away from her...I got on their cases too...like put whatever he needs on thier porch...mom says they need nothing...i am like, then he doesn't need to go out just to "look around"...and of course he won't wear a mask, even though they have them from the hospital (pt. masks) Also thier church called and said they would bring over anything they needed...but mom declined...ugghhhhh...I told her, if it was only him that he was endangering then so be it..but it was her and my disabled sister that he was endangering too...and mom says "your dad is careful, in fact he is probably the most careful one in the store" ohhhhh vey!!!
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Well my powder eggs were too old so just ordered one can.  I don't use many eggs.  So now I have a lot of old eggs and milk alternate to throw out.  Oh, well I just missed the Pandemic by 7 years for some of my food to be "good"...LOL!  Oh well!

how long can you store powdered eggs how do you know when they are too old to use? Thanks
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Originally posted by Penham Penham wrote:

Witchmisspelled, I forgot I had some individual UHT cartons of white and chocolate milk. Later today I will probably have to break into my powdered milk too, but I think I will mix some of the UHT cartons with to make it taste a bit better. I still have 4 dozen eggs and a bunch of powdered so I'm good there. 

Just a note for "the next time", I've tried a lot of powdered milks.  The best I've found is Emergency Essentials a the BePrepared site (the non fat NOT the fortified which sucks.)  I even served it to my sister for her tea one Christmas because I ran out of fresh.  She did not know the difference.  The trick is to measure exactly and chill it well before using.  
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For those with lots of fresh eggs .... remember to keep turning them (something about turning slow down the process of turning bad - I am not sure of the science of it, but it does work).
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Rant about the grocery stores during pandemic. My first complaint on here was about senior time only shopping went when store opened and it was extremely crowded. It was impossible to get through isle 6 feet apart. Contacted store about the issues I saw.  the next week Store  announced they would try one way traffic in isles and limit customers inside at any one time.  Well I did not return to that store but did make a quick trip into same chain different location this week. Still a joke they had not implemented on way traffic which would help in the isle as the isle are only about 6 feet wide anyway. There was no one at the entrance to meter amount of customers entering and exiting. A few of the staff had on mask. majority did not  This is not acceptable  in my book.  Had to run into another store today different chain to pick up items for someone. Another joke this store was not to crowded but most employees not masked, they had sneeze guards installed at registers but problem was they had two registers open right next to each other so in order to pay your back is right next to the other cashier behind you.  Why cant they open registers a distance apart not only 3 registers in store right in a row.  This store does not have self check out so this is the only option.  Come on grocery stores step it up to help keep us safe as many many people still need to go into a grocery store. This is not rocket science grocery store managers why cant the grocery store do their part to help social distance and see that all staff are masked. 
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