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FluMom
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Posted: April 02 2020 at 8:23pm |
Ok so just read an article from the U.K. says a body can give the funeral people Covid19. They are not sure how long the virus lives in a dead body. One guy says the body when they pick it up has air in the lungs and it could contain virus when the air comes out. Man this is crazy!! It is sad the funeral homes are over run! https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/undertakers-warned-coronavirus-can-stay-21670247 |
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KiwiMum
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I'd have thought that any of the bodily fluids could contain the virus. I've never understood why people go for the whole embalming / cotton wool up your bum thing when they die. I've watched a body decay in our dining room - an elderly relative in an open coffin, not embalmed, and it's an interesting process. The dogs only paid attention to the coffin on day 4, so we put the lid on. I certainly wouldn't want anyone messing around with my body. Perhaps in these unusual times they should seal the dead up in a body bag in the hospital and they then get cremated in that same bag asap. What's the point in washing and dressing them? There's too much risk to the undertakers, and also it's weird. And as for putting make up on the corpse and doing their hair........................ |
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FluMom
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KIwiMum, my son and my husband were embalmed and I will need to be embalmed because we have indoor crypts called mausoleums. You have to be embalmed to be put in there. Many people are not like me who have a place to be "buried" so I am sure that many will be cremated and they can be burned up just in the bag. It takes 1 - 3 hours to cremate a body and then you have 3-7 lbs of remains. I think this has to be difficult because people may not know what they want to do bury and have to find a spot, get a casket, and a vault or to cremate and then what to do with the ashes. This is all so sudden for most families I am sure this is just crazy in NYC. This whole thing is just NUTS and more states will be this way as well as whole countries. I would think that the virus would die in a day or two with out a live body but that is why I asked this question in the first place. I wondered if someone knew how long the virus lives in a dead body? |
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Dutch Josh
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[url]https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-funerals/608998/[/url]-FluMom-it looks like "they still do not know that for certain". Dealing-in a respectfull way-with the people who died-during a pandemic is a major challange. Respecting the will of the person that died should be the basis for what is done (in my DJ opinion). In a worst case scenario even that basic idea may be gone-to limit the outbreak... (DJ-Also referring to how long a virus may last on surfaces etc.-there should be more info I think-this is not a new situation in the way people died from virus/bacteria all the time.) |
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WitchMisspelled
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New York passed legislation during the height of the HIV crisis that no funeral home can refuse to take and embalm a body if they have died of disease. I'm not so sure what I think about this during the time of Covid-19. A friend of mine in Florida works as an embalmer in Florida. He said if he were still in NY he'd quit. I can't say I blame him. |
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FluMom
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Well I never though this would happen in the U.S. but here is proof! This is why if I go to hospital I will type up instructions of where my body is to be sent. I have a spot already to be buried and I do not want to be in a mass grave!!!! Part of the Article: Under a new policy, the medical examiner's office will keep bodies in storage for just 14 days before they're buried in the city's potter's field on Hart Island. City officials haven't explained whether the increase in burials at Hart Island is due to pressure on mortuaries to dispose of bodies more quickly. Prisoners from Rikers Island are usually brought in to dig graves on Hart Island but the Department of Corrections has since hired contracted laborers to carry out the work due to the outbreak. 'For social distancing and safety reasons, city-sentenced people in custody are not assisting in burials for the duration of the pandemic,' DOC Press Secretary Jason Kersten told DailyMail.com. 'Contracted laborers are performing this important work under DOC supervision. 'Burial operations at the city cemetery remain uninterrupted and they continue to be supervised by DOC, which has been performing this solemn duty on Hart Island for over 150 years and will continue to do so until the jurisdiction of Hart Island moves to Parks in 2021.' For burial on the island, the dead are wrapped in body bags and placed inside pine caskets. The deceased's name is scrawled in large letters on each casket, which helps if any body needs to be exhumed later. The caskets are buried in long narrow trenches excavated by digging machines. |
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Newbie1A
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Flumom - could you post the link to that article - want to send it to a few friends. I never thought I'd see the day either...wow...just wow. |
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WitchMisspelled
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I'd like a link to that article too. Because authorities have explained why bodies are being buried on Hart Island. They did so last week. |
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FluMom
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Not sure if this is the same article but similar...I just post and forget...I am old...LOL! |
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