Navy may punish aircraft carrier Captain

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-usa-navy/u-s-navy-does-not-rule-out-punishing-captain-of-carrier-who-blasted-coronavirus-response-idUKKBN21J6M5?rpc=401&

As they should. National security was exposed.

Loose Lips Sink Ships

I'm surprised that you all think he did the wrong thing. His actions brought to light a rapidly deteriorating situation that was endangering the lives of his crew. You might think differently if you had a son or daughter on board. Perhaps he felt he had to leak the situation because his direct chain of command were more concerned with looking invincible than they were about the welfare of the individuals on board.

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pentagon-fires-navy-captain-who-spoke-out-about-response-outbreak-aboard-aircraft[/url]

DJ-I do not know why the captain did get the message out to a wider range of people-did he expect top military not to react if he did not act that way ? Was he willing to pay the price for that ? 

The basic idea-to switch to damage-control-to save the military-in my opinion is correct. We has an outbreak on a Dutch submarine-recently. Military organizations are vulnarable for spread of illness. 

My impression is that many countries want to keep the infection rate in their military top-secret for good reasons. A lot of armies are not able to fight major (conventional) wars-increasing the risks for nuclear wars. [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-ramps-south-china-sea-war-drills-pandemic-swallows-west[/url]

I don't think anyone is doubting he cared about the welfare of his crew. The curious thing is that he felt the need to write a letter to 20 or 30 people over a unsecure email account relating the operational status of a aircraft carrier and calling for it to basically be pulled off line without talking to his direct superior, the rear admiral in charge of the task force, who happened to be on the same aircraft carrier as the captain. That's showing poor judgement in the middle of a crisis and that is why he was relieved of command. And while he may have retained his rank, it's almost certain he will never command a ship again.

This story reminds me of the recent spate of news stories where medical workers have been threatened with immediate dismissal if they wear protective gear without authorization. The authorities in all these stories are treating their staff as disposable, as if they have so many of them, they can afford to dismiss people for little or no reason. 

This kind of authoritarian attitude will come back to bite them. One day they'll dismiss a nurse or a doctor only to find there are no more in the queue waiting to fill their gap. Can any country right now, in the middle of such an unprecedented global disaster really afford to be publically humiliating and firing good men and women over such things? I don't think so. If Trump is so determined to go to war - which it appears he is - then he might just need this Captain afterall.

You are welcome to your opinion.  I would have done the same thing.  He put his ship and our country in jeopardy he needed to be fired.  This Captain put this out to the public...against Chain of Command pure and simple a court marshal offence.  He is lucky just to be fired from his position only.

AI wrote: It wasn't the Captains first bad call. The first was allowing his crew shore leave while in Da Nang in early March, which lead to his crew being infected. New cases of the coronavirus are being discovered in Vietnam, in the same port as where 6,500 sailors and Marines on the USS Theodore Roosevelt are docked. The USS Theodore Roosevelt left Coronado on Jan. 17, 2020, for a seven-month deployment to the Indo-Pacific. Now, seven weeks later, she is docked in Da Nang, Vietnam. Vietnamese media reported that two British tourists who tested positive for coronavirus were intercepted and quarantined in Da Nang. It's the same city that now hosts the USS Theodore Roosevelt. "The British, being tourists, most likely went to all the same places that sailors and Marines on liberty would probably want to go," Furman said. According to the USS Theodore Roosevelt Public Affairs, Sailors were scheduled to participate in cultural and professional exchanges, community service projects, sports competitions, and receptions during their port visit. It is unclear if any of the 6,500 sailors and Marines came into contact with the infected individuals in Da Nang. https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/new-coronavirus-cases-found-in-vietnamese-city-where-uss-roosevelt-is-docked I guess that question has been answered. Why he would allow shore leave in Vietnam risking infection is questionable, US commanders is SK and Italy had already locked down their bases as had other military bases and ships. I guess they will investigate all actions relating to this event.

Can you imagine Trump's reaction to the Captain if, in January, he refused to allow his crew shore leave? Remember until very recently Trump said the coronavirus was a great big hoax. Either way that captain couldn't win. And Albert's right, Trump is a dickhead.

Kiwi Trump NEVER said the Virus was a Hoax,  he was talking about the Dems being the Hoax Not the Virus.

 President Donald Trump told his supporters at a South Carolina that Democrats were spreading misinformation about the coronavirus, and called it "their new hoax." 

FluMom wrote: Kiwi Trump NEVER said the Virus was a Hoax,  he was talking about the Dems being the Hoax Not the Virus.  President Donald Trump told his supporters at a South Carolina that Democrats were spreading misinformation about the coronavirus, and called it "their new hoax."

Here are Trump’s exact words on the topic at the South Carolina rally:

Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, ‘How’s President Trump doing?’ They go, ‘Oh, not good, not good.’ They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa, they can’t even count. No they can’t. They can’t count their votes.

One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that.

In context, Trump did not say in the passage above that the virus itself was a hoax. He instead said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

Yes. I also posted the link to it on that comment.

Wow...just wow, chuck are you for real??.......clip, cut, and paste videos?

and Albert...wtf?.....Foul laced rants??

Is this what AFT has devolved into?

I'm not even going to waste the brain power to debunk those ridiculous posts.

'And now the free-for-all gets kicked into the politics forum!

This commander knew that his ship was a floating tragedy waiting to happen.  He asked for help and got normal numbskull answers, so he looked after his ship and crew by going public. Just following orders and having crew members injured or killed for no reason is just more BS from this administration.  Glad we have commander's that understand where leadership comes from, Trump is a fraud. Then some pencil pusher Navy Secretary in the pentagon called him stupid? Real professional navy secretary you have there Trump.    

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/thomas-modly-resigns-navy