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Fears of second wave as infection rates in America |
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bradlux
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Posted: June 17 2020 at 5:03am |
It comes after some states in America continue plans to ease the lockdown. Reports reveal Arizona, Florida, Oklahoma, Oregon and Texas recorded sharp increases in new cases following all-time highs in the same states last week. |
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carbon20
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I don't understand why it's called a 2nd wave, To me it's the same wave, A second wave to me, means, a place has had no cases for a good few weeks...... then someone presents with a case ,(from left field) Causing an outbreak, What we have now is a rolling first wave..... In my opinion..... |
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Reuters: Requiring masks 'political hazard' as COVID-19 surges in California breadbasket. |
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WitchMisspelled
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How can it be a second wave when we haven't even gotten off the plateau yet? |
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EdwinSm,
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My personal take on the use of "second wave" is that it is part of a campaign to play down the effects of corvid19. People heard earlier on talk about a "second wave" so if the press could call any surge what we might see "THE second wave" people can feel happy that this is soon to be over and life can get back to where it was. The difficult question is whether it is better to lull people into a false sense of security now, or to tell them the truth and face the possiblitiy of a panic situation or a situation of despair that causes order to break down. A sense of security now will help to keep people calm and less likely to riot etc, but it prevents them from preparing for what we here think will be the "second wave". However, it seems that only a few people would seriously work on positioning themselves for a second wave (or even the economic hardships this first wave is causing). |
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Tabitha111
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I see many folks on medtwitter explaining over and over again that this is STILL the first wave and the 2nd wave is yet to come....more than likely in the Fall. |
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Agreed — as far as I can tell, the nation as a whole never successfully recovered from the first wave. |
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EdwinSm,
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The BBC has an analysis article on Is the pandemic getting worse in the US? The number of cases is rising again, although number of deaths is falling. There are charts showing regional differences with cases falling in Northeast and Midwest, but rising in the South and the West. One interesting section touching on a topic that we have discussed is:-
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WitchMisspelled
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It's all about the mask. Even the numbers between NY and NJ show that. |
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carbon20
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It's all about not being dickheads and listening to the scientists not the politicians.... Who are only looking to get a second term....... Wonders who that could be ?..... M.A.M.S. make american more sick........ |
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EdwinSm,
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Up, up she goes (at least the death rate is staying flat for now) |
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carbon20
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Maybe deaths are lower because the demographic of infected has changed Younger age groups ,be interesting to watch what happens next...... |
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carbon20
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Just watching American news, ICU's filling up..... That's what we have to watch...... |
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I understand that rates of death are a lagging indicator. Give it three or four weeks and I'm sure those numbers will rise as dramatically as the infection rate is now. |
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EdwinSm,
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Not a second wave....but in the graph it looks like a second crest on the first huge wave of infections. |
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The Independent: Coronavirus: Texas public health expert warns that ‘horrifying’ coronavirus surge should put state on ‘red alert’. |
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Does the virus like hot conditions? So much for the hope that it would go away in hot weather - I thought that was wishful thinking but hoped it might be true. |
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Absolutely correct, WM!! Good job, you should be an epidemiologist. Regarding "second wave" etc. - these are very artificial terms used to try to fit complex disease dynamics into simpler concepts. We are, in fact, in a long first-wave like a tsunami - when we went into lockdown in the USA, vulnerable people were taken out of circulation, but only temporarily. Now that it is warm, folks have had enough of being cooped up and they are succumbing to their tendencies to go out and party, hang out in parks, beaches etc. This is Arizona: |
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carbon20
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The worst part of a hurricane is after you come out of the EYE , America has been in the eye of the storm Just coming out........ Where CHUMP ??? haven't seen him for days...... hardly Churchillian..... More like Ronald McDonalds CLOWN...... |
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