Trump and New Zealand

For the second time Trump has called out New Zealand for it's apparent inability to control Covid 19. Today he's said that we've had a "big surge" in cases. We had 6 new cases. The USA had 40,000.

Seriously, what's with the man?

173,000 DEAD......

doing a great job!!!!!!????

Just an

 Orange Faced Clown

Trying to be president....

And his Base is Just that 

BASE.....

REDNECKS.....

Oops think we straying into politics.....

care factor....00

It's like living next to an overflowing cesspool with dead bodies thrown in.

Usk wrote: So more sheep them people in New Zealand can sheep get Cov?

Ask chumps supporters 

They sheep.....lol

Deflection

The sheep will only hear 

"New Zealand MASSIVE out break"

Most Americans wouldn't even know where you are ?????

After all they voted for a ORANGE FACED CLOWN......

JellyMama wrote: I’m afraid this forum is no longer informative about the virus but has turned into a Trump bashing political site. Sad, I used to find this forum very helpful and informative.

I disagree it's only a very small percentage of posts berate Chump.....no one is above being ridiculed.....

Chump never holds back...... 

He disgusts me, he mockes  people  with disabilities.....he's no better than a toad.......

The thing is that I think most of us can agree that by every objective metric, the U.S. response to this virus has been somewhere between extremely disappointing, and a failure. The numbers don't lie.  And the buck stops with the leader, whether (s)he admits it/likes it or not.  I don't think it's personal, believe it or not.  I think it's fair to say (and I hope those who were on this site more than I was before the pandemic got started will correct me if I'm wrong), but I don't think there was very much Trump commentary on this site at all, and most of what was was in the political threads, until the Covid response was bungled, bluntly speaking.

I used to be a lurker on a well-known survivalist site.  I enjoyed the information and the community feel.  They bashed Obama constantly.  For a time I rolled with it, because the information I gleaned was worth it.  And then one day it wasn't worth it anymore and I left.  These kind of things are up to the individual to decide.  I think it's probably true that the criticism of Trump on this site will largely be coming to an end in about 5 months, and then the lens can focus on someone else.

Perhaps if enough people left, the site folded.  For two people to meet here with the same complaints and story just by chance, is quite unlikely, unless most people there were dissatisfied.

NZ is only a small country of 5 million people and yet we hold a disproportionately big place on the world stage. We're known for our sporting abilities, in film making, as a bucket list tourism destination, our vast population of sheep and cows and for being a chilled nation. Our national motto at the moment (and since the beginning  of Covid 19) is Be KInd. Our prime minister decided to put people before the economy and as a team of 5 million we all joined in and eliminated the disease. It's back because we're allowing kiwis around the world to come home. It's escaped quarantine and is in the community but we're trying to eliminate it again. 

Our policy for tackling the virus is very different from America's, and therefore I don't think Trump should be comparing the two, particularly not to make a political point. This morning he has said that it's "all over" for NZ, implying that we've failed and it's widespread. It isn't and we haven't. And at least we're trying. We might fail, who knows, but I hope not, as life for 102  days was completely back to normal and we'd all like it to be again. 

However you look at it, you can't compare 43,000 cases a day with 11.

Spring starts here next week and I've woken up this morning to discover we're sitting in a cloud, as the cloud cover is unusually low and I live by the mountains.  As I'm typing this I can hear birdsong and see daffodils in our orchard and it's all swirled in mist. It's so peaceful I feel as if the coronavirus isn't here at all.

Technophobe wrote: Oh! and I'm not a Democratic supporter, but I bashed Trump from the start on here.  I saw so many things that horrified me about him!  I'm not sure he is fully human; if he is, he is a classic psychopath.  (Before Republicans get excited, many CEOs are.  It can make a company do really well.  But this is very dangerous territory for a Country's leader.)

His niece Mary Trump's book, Too Much And Never Enough, makes a very good case for a few different pathologies, and she is a clinical psychologist, although not without a little prejudice, I'm sure.

it's funny, Techno, but election night 2016 my mum was asleep when I got home from work a little after 11 PM.  In the wee hours of the morning she woke up and asked me if Hillary was president yet, and I said, No, and it doesn't look like she's gonna be, and I explained the situation.  My mother said, Well, maybe it will be different when they get all the votes counted from the big urban areas, let me know.  I held my tongue in my hands, but I knew.  So about an hour later, Hillary conceded.  I went in and told my mother and she burst into tears.  And I thought, Wow, that reaction is a little extreme.  I honestly didn't dream that Trump would have the gall to try some of the things he's done.  And I assumed, like most of us, I'm sure, that if he went too far out of bounds, he'd be held accountable more than he has been.  There have not been enough adults in the room i.e. Washington, DC, to hold him accountable.  I'm sure that someone in the future will push the envelope even further than Trump has.  But they will be smart and self-controlled enough not to have to brag, will keep their big mouth shut about their nefarious plans, and we will wake up one day in a totalitarian state.

P.S.  I apologized to my mother several times for doubting her reaction.  Mothers are always right.  The first law of life, lol.

Thanks Willoby, I had seen that there was that thread on Boredpanda, but I had not looked at it before you linked to it.

Nearly all were great, but I particularly laughed at walking in the mountains to get to the border with Australia.  

Thanks for sharing that. It's so funny. I hadn't seen it before but as I type this I'm looking out the window at snow capped mountains. It's sunny today, the daffodils are out and the first spring leaves are showing on the willows along the edge of our stream. The swallows have started nesting under our verandah roof again. It's a hell hole here.