Excess deaths and G7

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   According to Worldometers the UK has a higher death rate from Covid19 than USA, but when Excess Deaths are taken into account the USA is much worse.    
As this pandemic has gone on I am leaning more and more to Excess Deaths as being the best measure of the effect of the pandemic (this is not to play down Long Covid which I think will have significant impact over time, but I am not sure how that will be measured).

For the G7 countries:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57421886

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EdwinSm, Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Joined: April 03 2013 Status: Offline Points: 24065	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdwinSm, Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Excess deaths and G7 Posted: June 10 2021 at 7:26am
	According to Worldometers the UK has a higher death rate from Covid19 than USA, but when Excess Deaths are taken into account the USA is much worse. As this pandemic has gone on I am leaning more and more to Excess Deaths as being the best measure of the effect of the pandemic (this is not to play down Long Covid which I think will have significant impact over time, but I am not sure how that will be measured). For the G7 countries: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57421886

Dutch Josh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Adviser Group Joined: May 01 2013 Location: Arnhem-Netherla Status: Offline Points: 95217	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dutch Josh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: June 10 2021 at 8:48am
	Translating it to [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table ; US has 184,3 deaths per 100,000 reported as Covid death (excess=227 UK 187,4, (e=181 ?) Italy 210, (e=180 ?) France ,168,5 (e=125) Germany 107,3, (e=92) Canada 67,9 , (e=92 ) Japan 11, (e=47) Makes me wonder wich numbers to trust...proberbly related with the timing. Worldometers-data from yesterday, excess deaths per march 1 or so ?
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EdwinSm, Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Joined: April 03 2013 Status: Offline Points: 24065	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdwinSm, Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: June 10 2021 at 10:17pm
	Josh, well pointed out. I am not at all sure on how I would account the differences, especially as the BBC reports I remember have the UK 'excess deaths' quite a bit higher than official corvid deaths, but on that report they are close together, I think part of the answer is in how the health systems have coped with other illnesses, but this is complex (and far above the amount of data that I have) needing to balance fewer road accidents or heart attacks verses the reduced/delayed treatment for cancer. But at least the differences are not orders of magnitude out (like it is in most of Eastern Europe/Central Asia).