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Thomas Angel
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What we know is that H5N1 is just one mutation away from becoming more easily transmissable. It may have done so yesterday, last week, or this morning while we were fast asleep.
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fritz
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Mary, the abc webpage on Bf has been around for a while. They just keep adding stories to it as they air so it just grows and grows with the media coverage.
No need for panic......just keep on prepp'n people!!!! fritz :>}
BTW, I am told there is another article in the NY times today. I have to go check it out. TTFN
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I just heard some information and if anyone would know it would be you guys. I heard that FPandL (florida power and light) has told their employees to stock up on tamaflu in order to be prepared for the bird flu. Does this stuff really combat against the virus or are they just telling people that?
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How are their employees supposed to stock up on Tamiflu if the doctors won't prescribe it because they're not sick? Also, last I heard the so-called experts still don't know if it will do anything. It seems to work only if given within 24 hours of getting sick, and IIRC you might not have very many symptoms at the time, so it could be mistaken for a cold at first.
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Also, the typicaly dose may not be enough. It seems that possibly
a double dose for ten days might be needed instead of the standard
doese for five days. Consequently, we may have to convince the
doctor to write four prescriptions...not just one.
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Time is closing in. Get your preps completed. |
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My theory is that when the mosquito season starts (around the globe) it will begin.
These mosquito's start sucking blood from sick chickens, pigs, wild birds, cats and then they bite human beings. Go figure. These are the messengers of death and I believe it will really be a problem in Warm areas. This mosquito factor may need a thread by itself. |
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Terrible thought Tazman. I had not considered transmissions by Mosquito's. I think they call that West Nile Virus. I wonder how they differ? Maybe the West Nile Virus is only contagious from a Mosquito M2H and not M2H2H? I'm not in that field, just don't know. Scary thought.
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This is old news to me..they have known about these"rare cases" or the other terminology used "unsustained cases" since 2005. This is not new.
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Has simple pictures in a pdf document
www.health.gov.on.ca/english/ public/pub/pubhealth/pdf/handwash_tech.pdf
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But they are still not up after a week!!!
What's the deal?
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Hi, One thing that is truly useful is bleach. If you never used bleach in your kitchen before, try using it now to sanitize dishes and tools used in food preparation. Bleach's effectiveness is multiplied by the addition of vinegar which lowers the pH of the hypochlorite and makes more chlorine available. A 250 ml wash bottle with 10 mls bleach and 30 mls vinegar and brought to volume with tap water is effective.
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I always thought that ADIS can be transmitted via a mosquito bite. Why not BF, but I think you need a special kind of mosquito the one that can transmit malaria . |
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I'm sure if it could be transmitted through mosquitos we would have heard more about it by now............ wouldn't we?? I think I read somewhere..... maybe one of Joes posts...... about insect vectors. Someone who knows ease our minds! PLEASE!!!
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Been lurking for a month or so. It seems very obvious that clusters are ocurring. I apologize if this reference has been posted and discussed. It was under a menu heading of "references" on a CDC page. Looks like last fall referring to cases from first half of '05.
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Sorry, I don't seem to know how to make the original comment come up in my reply. I, also having trouble controlling my font size! Endman said: I always thought that ADIS can be transmitted via a mosquito bite. Endman and 7 Strong, You can go to this link Titled: Why Mosquitoes Cannot Transmit AIDS
by Wayne J. Crans, Associate Research Professor in Entomology
http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~insects/aids.htm
Headings in the article include:
Mosquitoes Do Not Ingest Enough HIV Particles to Transmit AIDS by Contamination Mosquitoes Are Not Flying Hypodermic Needles
Mosquitoes Digest the Virus that Causes AIDS
Perhaps the BF will behave similarly in mosquitoes.
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Thanks for the info Spirit. I thought if it were possible we would have heard it before. |
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Had to bring me down huh Thomas? kidding of course..... It sure would be nice to to hear from someone who knows.
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Right you are about most people not washing their hands in the bathroom! Disgusting. That is why I carry the little alcohol bottles of sanitizer in my car. After shaking hands with these folks, I use it right away! BF or no BF we should all keep up our handwashing!
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Spirit
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Right now there appears to be no evidence of Mosquito born H5N1 -
But watch out for the flies Thomas Angel!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4967188 Q: Can mosquitoes be a vector for the spread of avian flu virus? -- Carol Taylor, Lovington, New Mexico
A: Influenza is not normally a disease that is transmitted by a vector such as a mosquito. But because the virus is relatively environmentally stable, mechanical transmission by insects, such as flies, is a possibility. Since the virus can survive for long periods in the wild, flies might pick it up when they land on feces or infected birds, and then carry it to other animals. Mosquitoes typically transmit diseases, such as West Nile Virus, by ingesting blood from infected animals, then transmitting it to the next animal they feed on. Based on your comment and respecting your views and observations, I looked up some more papers on the subject, but it's still not clear about transmission through the mosquitoes. "Not clear" in that they seem to say there isn't transmission, but we have to constantly question.
I'll keep my eye out in my wanderings T. Angel.
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There have been no reports of AI being spread by mosquitos. This
is probably because the virus travels on airborne vectors and is
primarily a pulmonary disease. Coughing releases it from the deep
lobes of the lungs in those who are infected, and it then has to make
it down into the lower lung in recipients. It's just not
efficient yet. This is NOT a blood-borne pathogen. The idea
of mosquitos carrying bird feces dust on theie feet is also a
non-starter, because there is no vector to get it into your lower lungs.
For handwashing info, check out the video page in the forum. There's a great one from Australia. Edited by carpenter - April 06 2006 at 2:18pm |
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Thanks Carpenter!!
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Mosquitos are not a vector as far as we know. As Carpenter
correctly pointed out, AI is not a blood borne disease. We do
test blood for antibodies to it, though.
There is always the remote possibility of the virus mutating into a form that can be carried in the blood. I would think the odds of being hit by a meteor are greater. |
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I think at the moment mosquitoes a further down the list of scientific priorities. Possibly the new British research facility on Zoonosis may one day yield some answers. |
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