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    Posted: June 08 2006 at 6:04am
Does anyone have an update the Idiopathic hemorragic pneumonia that was posted around June 2nd from a promed news release?  There were 9 suspected cases and 7 dead at the time of the post.
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http://jornaldaparaiba.globo.com/cida-09-070606.html

In Portugese, of course:

A Secretaria Estadual de Saúde (SES) da Paraíba está monitorando as internações hospitalares por pneumonia, por causa dos casos da doença misteriosa, que já vitimou sete pessoas no Rio Grande do Norte. De acordo com a coordenadora de Vigilância Epidemiológica da SES, Dioméia Garcia, as mortes no Estado vizinho, ainda estão sendo investigadas e há a suspeita que possam ter sido causadas pela pneumonia hemorrágica idiopática (de origem desconhecida).

    Segundo Dioméia, não foi identificada nenhuma alteração no comportamento e no número de casos de pneumonia na Paraíba, mas a vigilância é importante. “Até que seja dado o diagnóstico final da causa das mortes no Rio Grande do Norte, que virá através do resultado dos exames feitos pelo Instituto Evandro Chagas, de Belém (PA) devemos estar alertas, pois não conhecemos a etiologia da doença, porém até agora não há indícios de que ela seja transmitida entre pessoas”, diz.

    Ela ressalta que por meio de exames feitos também pelo instituto foram descartadas quaisquer possibilidades de que a doença seja ocasionada pelo vírus H5N1, causador da gripe aviária, que já matou centenas de pessoas em diversos países.

    Os sintomas da pneumonia hemorrágica, como informa Dioméia são tosse muito aguda, com dispnéia (dificuldade de respiração), que não responde aos broncodilatadores e que evolui para sangramento das vias respiratórias, podendo levar à morte. “Como tem uma sintomatologia específica e diferente, ainda não foi possível se chegar a um diagnóstico. A pneumonia pode ocorrer por diversas causas e é o que está sendo analisado”, destaca ela.

    Os casos no Rio Grande do Norte começaram a ser investigados no mês de março, quando foram registrados os primeiros casos de morte de crianças com quadro respiratório grave e evolução da doença de forma rápida (em torno de 13 dias do aparecimento dos sintomas até a morte). As cidades onde foram notificadas as mortes suspeitas foram: Boa Saúde, Canguaretama, Ceará Mirim, Galinhos, Natal, Parnamirim, São Gonçalo do Amarante, São Tomé e Taipu. “Os casos ainda estão em estudo e não há confirmações até que os exames possam revelar a origem do mal”, ressalta Dioméia Garcia.
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The State Office of the secretary of Health for Labor is monitoring the hospital admissions for pneumonia, because of the cases of this mysterious illness. It has already claimed as  victims seven persons in Rio Big of the North. 

According to the coordinating one of Vigilance Epidemiológica of Dioméia Garcia, the deaths in the neighboring State, still are being investigated and there is the suspicion that may have been caused by the hemorrhagic pneumonia idiopática (of unknown origin).  

Second Dioméia, was not identified no alteration in the behavior and in the pneumonia cases number in the Laborer, but the vigilance is important.  “To that be fact the diagnosis final of the cause of the deaths in Rio Big of the North, that turn through the result of the exams made by the Institute Evandro Sores, of Belém (EQUAL) should be on the alert, therefore do not know the etiology of the illness, however so far there is not indications of that she be transmitted between persons”, says. we we.  

She stands out that by means of exams made also by the institute were discarded any possibilities of that the illness be caused by the virus H5N1, cause of the avian influenza, that already killed hundreds of persons in diverse countries.  

The symptoms of the hemorrhagic pneumonia, as informs Dioméia are very sharp cough, with dispnéia (difficulty of breath), that does not answer the broncodilatadores and that I evolved for bleeding of the respiratory roads, being able to cause to the death.  “As has a sintomatologia specific and different, still was not possible arrive to a diagnosis.  The pneumonia can occur for diverse causes and is what is being analyzed”, detaches she.  

The cases in Rio Big of the North began it to be investigated in the month of March, when were recorded the first infants death cases with grave respiratory chart and evolution of the illness of quick form (around 13 days of the appearance of the symptoms up to death).  The cities where were notified the deaths suspects were:  Good Health, Canguaretama, Will Dine Little, little Roosters, Christmas, Parnamirim, Saint Gonçalo of the Amarante, Saint Tomé and Taipu.  “The cases still are in study and there is not corroborations to that the exams can reveal the origin of the evil”, stands out Dioméia Garcia.  

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Thanks so much Joe!!!!
 
 
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No further information.  Somebody has told them to keep the wraps on.  WHO?
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another case of abbf?
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Originally posted by sapphire sapphire wrote:

another case of abbf?
  In this case, the ABBF is Silence.
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another mystery that will no doubt be forgotten in a few days.  there have been a few things like this-- some legitimately other illnesses, others we never hear of again...
 
for e.g. whatever happpened to that case a few weeks ago of the woman from s. africa that got ill on the plane ride to london? 
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Originally posted by sapphire sapphire wrote:

another mystery that will no doubt be forgotten in a few days.  there have been a few things like this-- some legitimately other illnesses, others we never hear of again...
 
for e.g. whatever happpened to that case a few weeks ago of the woman from s. africa that got ill on the plane ride to london? 


As is usually the case there was no further announcement because the main stream media was no longer interested.  The last I heard on this item was that they confirmed that it was NOT Ebola.  Nobody ever denied H5N1 "as confrimed by testing."  YOU are left to wonder and scratch your head.

After the (supposedly H9N2) Bird Flu outbreak in Columbia, there was a brush fire like outbreak just across the border in Peru where the local Indians were dying of a hemorrhagic influenza like fever.  (This more than the reported deaths later in Panama made me suspicious that we had H5N1 in the Americas.)

In one report there were over 100 fatalities among the Indians (Yamamano Indians, I believe).  The local missionary station initially reported that it was tested NOT to be Yellow Fever. 

The Peruvian government immediately stepped in and maintained that it WAS Yellow Fever. Loud proclamations to that effect! (Which all the moreso made me doubt their veracity.)

Coverup?  We will never know, because the main stream media forgot about this outbreak, just like all the other outbreaks.
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There are no investigative reporters left in the world (Or so it would seem.).

Just once I would like to see an investigative reporter take one of these news stories and persue it.  Take the nationwide die off of cow herds in the Ukraine that occured late last year.  Within a day, the whole world forgot and moved on to the terrorist stories.

What would an investigative reported find if he/she followed up on the inital story.  The cows were alive one day and dead the next in feed lots at four different locations in the Ukraine.  Could some mad poisoner fly across the country and drive to outlying feed lots and poison all those cows so that they would all start dying in the morning?  How did he get the bleeding sores to appear on the flanks of the cows? 

How about the cows in Myanmar, Vietnam, Cambodia, India and fifty other places all die with similar symptoms.  How about the cows in Iowa (The state where the officials absolutely refuse to respond to any questions about the mysterious cow deaths)?

How about the pig deaths in a hundred different countries? How about the Gorilla deaths and chimpanzee deaths in Africa?  How about the monkey deaths all over Central America.  Who is covering that story? WHO is covering up that story...?
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Joe, I'm..speachless
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:28:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Joe Neubarth" <joe_neubarth@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book 
Subject: Any followup to the story about pneumonia in Brazil?
To:promed@promedmail.org
 
This individual who was traveling there, what has he said? 
Even if there is no definition to the story, most of us would like to know what is happening.

ProMED-mail
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"[I am at the airport waiting for the plane to take me to Rio Grande
do Norte. Tomorrow, I shall have a meeting with the staff of the
State Health Department. As far as I could understand from data sent
to me, the cases seem to be severe cases of influenza (or maybe
another viral pathogen, but I favor influenza). There is a
respiratory disease epidemic of large proportions ongoing at the
moment. The autopsy reports reveal severe viral pneumonia, some
clearly with bacterial superinfection. The preexisting morbidity of
the deceased patients favors this hypothesis, a pregnant woman, a
child with sickle cell anemia, a child with asthma and another with a
metabolic disorder; I have
no idea what this disorder could be. As
soon as I have better data, I'll file a report - Mod.LJS]"
..................mpp/lm/ljs/lm/msp/lm
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 21:47:06 -0400
To:joe_neubarth@yahoo.com, ljsilva@promedmail.org
From:"Don Kaye" <kaye@isid.org>  
Subject: Fwd: Any followup to the story about pneumonia in Brazil?


  I have no further information, but I'll send this on to someone who may have information.


D. Kaye, Assoc. Ed. 
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Hi Joe,
 
I emailed them about this on June 8th and haven't heard anything yet.
 
Angie
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Originally posted by Angie Angie wrote:

Hi Joe,
 
I emailed them about this on June 8th and haven't heard anything yet.
 
Angie

Thanks for trying.  The only way we will find out is to somewhat pester those people who can inform the world.

We know there is an unexplained pneumonia outbreak in Brazil and we know that southern Africa has a vicious flu outbreak that is killing people with pneumonia, but nobody will confirm the virus that is responsible.

During the winter, both the Ukraine and Moldavia had very high numbers of pneumonia deaths.  There was even a report from a newspaper that it was Bird Flu in Moldavia, but that was quickly covered up, just like the cow deaths in the Ukraine.

It is spreading.  Animals and people are dying, but ABBF still rules.
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Originally posted by JoeNeubarth JoeNeubarth wrote:

There are no investigative reporters left in the world (Or so it would seem.).

Who is covering that
story? WHO is covering up that story...?



It is funny (well not really) that there are no investigative reporters left, yet there must be SO MANY people to make sure all these stories are covered up.
When you start to think about the magnitude of that, doesn't give you the greatest feeling..
     
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