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Shadow
Adviser Group Joined: June 15 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 169 |
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Posted: June 15 2006 at 2:08pm |
Hi all, I've been reading all your posts for a month now and I must say thank you first off. Now I would very much like to know if anyone has information on if a person or family(whom ever) stays away COMPLETLY from others; if they could omit the Pendemic? I live in the mountains in Canada and have been trying to prep and I'm hoping if I can get enough food together to just lock my family up(sort of speak) until all has pasted. What do you all think or know? Thank you Also, I don't know if this is where I post this question, so please understand if I've done it wrong. |
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Welcome Shadow. We've all been new posters so don't worry about making a mistake. Alot of people on this forum will try to do just that. They call it SIP or shelter in place. I am prepping but will probably not be able to ride out the pandemic. But I'll try. We try to keep latest news stuff on this post, and discussion and stuff on the other Discussion side, but I find it usually gets all mixed up anyway. Ask away, you'll get lots of opinoins and good information here.
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We are all basically planning on quarantining our selfs from everyone. So we prep for everything from toiletries to food, water medication (weather it be prescription) or OTC (over the counter) to tamiflu and lots of Chocolate and wine for medicinal purposes. Batteries, lanterns, heat, ect ect ect.
Some of us must work and are on the front lines so masks gowns gloves, glasses, and pray.
Question should be posted in different area...most are post in the H5N1 Avian Influenza Discussion , but if it's about prepping see the prepping forum and so on.
Feel free to even post your concerns. Some of us just vent our frustrations or to tell us what going on with you.
Hope this help and welcome...
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Shadow, If you and your family stay completely away from everyone else, then you will not catch bird flu. At some point you'd have to come out though and take a vaccine shot once it's available. Good luck and welcome.
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It is likely that it may be recommended that people stay at home anyway if there is no specific treatment a hospital can give due to lack of supplies. One thing I would bear in mind. So far, most people get this from birds, and it can be carried along the migratory corridors, therfore you should avoid contact with birds as well, especially what appears to be a sick bird. I would also advise that you be sure and have several sources of communication. There is a story of a Japanese solidier holded up for decades who did not know the war was over. In the event a vaccine is produced and you don't want to remain isolated in the mountains forever, you might reconsider. By the way, welcome to the Forum. There are many good people here and an enormous amount of information. |
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That is good news! I've tried hard to inform family but they tell me it'll get ya ( if it comes) no matter where you are. My mother-in-law feels this way because her fathers , father died of the Hong Kong flu( i believe it was). And went on to tell me that the Natives didn't go off their reserves and still caught the Bird flu. So because of this, she will be just as happy to be in town if it does happen. Thank you I'll post this sort of stuff on the other forum next time.
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A hand cranked radio for what MedClinician said...
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migratory birds are not known to be a significant danger to humans so far, and that would be unlikely to change in a pandemic. People so far get it from poultry who got it either from other poultry or migratory birds. Of course it is not safe to drink water that ducks have been flocking in such as near your end of a lake. Much easier to avoid wild birds than a flock you might own. There is a long list of species including cats that could get sick, so you want to keep your animals inside and avoid all wildllife unless you can keep up to date on which species are not getting sick. There is a website if you want to see that list as it currently exists.
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I plan to remain isolated until a vaccine is developed, unless I have to go out to find water. If you know the people in your home are not infected, and NOBODY goes out... I do not see how they would be infected.
Also...Staying on a Reservation is very different from staying in a home that is isolated from everyone else.
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Hi there Shadow--nice to meet you! We are all banking on NOT getting the virus by totally isolating ourselves. When we say NO outside contact, we mean in the extreme sense, ie, no acceptance of mail, no going out to get things or groceries or gas for the cars, etc. If we have to go out, we will be masked and maybe have gloves on. We are all trying to stash some cash so as not to have to go to the bank. You have to look at all the things you use and need every minute of the day and then provide all those things, (the preps) for yourself and family for an extended length of time. Don't forget meds and your pets. Some of us are planting gardens for our own produce. The hard part for most people is water, power, alternate cooking source. Good luck--hope to hear from you often.
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Hi, Shadow, welcome aboard. The way I understand it (any docs/nurses please correct me), by the time the bug has mutated to go H2H2H2H2H, it will be fairly different from H5N1 the way it is circulating among birds. So, if you're fortunate enough, to be able to isolate yourself and your family for up to 18 months, you should be fine. Question is, can you do that? That's a whole lot of food, water, meds, fuel etc. For most of us, I believe, it is more a matter of mitigating the risk: Quarantine ourselves while it's in our area, have enough PPE to handle the risk of going outside. It's different for every person, circumstance, finances, location etc. You say you live in the mountains. Do you have the neccessary survival skills? Is there a water source? Do you know how to hunt/fish??
Again. A very warm welcome.
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bellabecky
Adviser Group Joined: June 07 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 396 |
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YUP, I'll be locking up like a little piggy. Hope no Big Bad Wolf comes a-blowing!
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Hi! Pugmom, I assume that, when you say "We are all" banking on not getting the virus by staying inside the entire time, you really mean "you all" and not everyone in this forum. I admire the conviction of your personal decision about how to quarantine, but lets remember that there are as many plans with varying degrees of "isolation" as there are posters in this forum. My plan is a little different, with 90 days of preps and plenty of protective equipment to go out and get more (if available) after the first wave passes through my community. I really don't believe there is a "perfect" plan. We all just have to go with our comfort level. Like I've said before, if it's determined that my chances of contracting BF are the same as getting hit by a meteor....step aside....IM COMIN OUT!!!
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Shadow
Adviser Group Joined: June 15 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 169 |
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Wonderful to hear everyone is doing anything they can to prep.
Yes, I do live 3 hours away from any city. We do though have a small store 5 acres away. Could we still go outside safely? We have an underground spring. Lots of knowledge on how to survive and we fish and hunt always.
I'm also wondering about if it will be o.k. to plant a garden outside? Or would it be better to plant inside.
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Legacy
Valued Member Location: Ohio Joined: April 20 2006 Status: Offline Points: 329 |
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Hi Shadow! Again, you will probably find as many different views on going outdoors during a pandemic as there are posters in this forum. Some of us will be walking our dogs, riding bikes, etc., and some will not. Speaking personally and honestly, I would lose my mind if forced to stay indoors 24/7 for more than 2 weeks, but many in this forum have a much higher tolerance for "cabin fever". I think, too, that many who will be gardening outdoors will have protective coverings over their crops to avoid bird droppings, which is the biggest threat of the outdoors in unpopulated areas. Best of luck to you and yours with your preparations!
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Scotty
Adviser Group Joined: March 06 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 846 |
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Shadow: Pandemics fade in severity as the virus runs out of easy targets. It will, however, still be waiting for you when you finally emerge from your bunker. It won't go away, ever.
You can hope for a vaccine that will immunise you but given current rates of production and likely number of mutations I personally don't put any faith in a vaccine. I'm hoping that natural selection will favour mutations with high infectivity rather than those with lethality. It seems likely that effective isolation strategy is almost totally dependent upon most other people becoming infected. |
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