New Swine Flu????

Does this strike anyone else as strange?  All of a sudden out of the blue comes the prefect virus, it is made up of swine flu, bird flu (don't know which one) and human flu.  Does it even seem a little strange that it's what the world needs to thin the population. 

1.  We have no natural defense.

2.  We never heard of it before, just out of the blue.

3.  Gov says they have a vacine available.  Developed by who, available to who?

4.  New World Order wants to get rid of 90% of the humans.

5.  Economy is going into the toilet.

6.  Who recombined this virus?  I doubt nature did it.

7.  Why would it strike in the middle of Mexico City if it orriginated in pigs?

8.  It's time to stop the panic and take a look at this a little closer.

It's like a having a big pot of water on a stove for 10 years. It's simmering but it has not boiled. You haven't been able to do anything about it being there so you have to watch it. Then one day you look and there are 2 pots and the new one is already boilling.

I thought about the possibility immediately. The largest city in the world would be the perfect place to release it to make sure it could not be stopped.

in 5 yrs it has come around to be spreading more efficiantely im humans.

 

http://www.porkmag.com/news_editorial.asp?pgID=677&ed_id=2787

 

 

SIV Gets More Complicated (Herd Health)
By Pork sta
ff  |  Sunday, July 25, 2004

Kurt Rossow, Veterinary Diagnostic Medicine, University of Minnesota, says that SIV cases seen in the past 6 months have shown “different H1N1 viruses and changes in H3N2 viruses as well. While it’s still out there and needs to be considered, the classic H1N1 is no longer the predominant SIV type.”

Similar patterns surfaced in Iowa. “The SIV samples that we’ve looked at from 2002 and 2003, nearly all appear to be the new reassortant H1N1 rather than classic H1N1,” notes Bruce Janke, Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, Iowa State University.

According to Marie Gramer, Veterinary Diagnostic Medicine, University of Minnesota, the new reassortant H1N1 strains are adding to the confusion about SIV and contributing to problems surrounding its control.

“Multiple strains active in a herd on a nearly continual basis make SIV testing more complicated,” says Gramer. “It’s difficult to identify strains definitively using only the basic testing procedures.”

It’s possible for one herd to carry multiple SIV strains including H1N1, rH1N1, H1N2 and H3N2, stresses Gramer. To identify multiple strains in a herd the diagnostic lab must do genetic sequencing of the virus in addition to performing serotyping.

“Today, SIV is a moving target,” says Gene Erickson, Rollins Laboratory, Raleigh, N.C., “with the emergence of H3N2, it has become clear that the virus has a broad ability to reassort with other strains of virus co-circulating in the herd, at the same time allowing it to create a new virus.”

“We’re seeing documented cases in well-vaccinated pigs where the SIV vaccine hasn’t offered adequate protection,” acknowledges Gramer. “The vaccine didn’t necessarily fail, it just didn’t cover new strains circulating within the herd.”

Iowa State research also shows that pigs undergoing active infection with porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome or porcine circovirus at the time of SIV vaccination may have a compromised ability to respond properly to the vaccine.

Many herds rely on pre-farrowing SIV vaccination programs to protect pigs through late nursery or early finishing stages, but then neglect to fully immunize incoming gilts.

“Replacement females need to be brought up to a similar immune status as the sows. Otherwise, the differing immune levels in sows and offspring will encourage the virus to maintain or even amplify itself, in the herd,” stresses Erickson.

An Evolutionary Virus

Since 1998, SIV has moved from a single, stable virus to a virus with the ability to reconfigure itself to the point where it may avoid control by existing vaccines.  

“The new H1N1 strain emerged from a process called genetic reassortment, which occurs when a single cell is infected by two different influenza viruses,” explains Robyn Fleck, a technical service veterinarian at Schering-Plough Animal Health. “The result is a ‘progeny virus’ containing genetic material from both ‘parents’.”

“In other words,” she adds, “the outside of reassortment H1N1 looks like a classical H1N1, but its internal genes are derived from H3N2.  Reassortant H1N1 also acts differently from the old classical H1N1. It picks up mutations at an increased rate, thereby evading the pig’s immune system.”

According to Bruce Janke, Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, Iowa State University, the positive identification of H3N2 in 1998 made SIV “a two-strain disease in many Midwest herds within 6 months, thus setting the stage for further variations.”

Article on rH1N1 etc...  is above

To Mary- Anyone willing to make a virus to kill millions of people is not going to worry too much about the pig industry.

To the troll- The Spanish Flu H1N1 was an avian virus. Direct jump from birds to humans. Everyone on the planet is now adapted to that virus. This new virus is a pig/human/bird combo. H1N1 refers to bonding sites on 2 proteins on the surface of the virus. That's the only thing this one has in common with the Spanish Flu H5N1.  "Less mutated strain"  What does that mean? The people on this board have been reading on this topic for years. It's obvious that your knowledge of the topic would not fill a thimble. You also need to learn to spell.

Just read this...in kansas now??

Thanks Richard. Yes I was hearing the same strain...I just can't figure out nor can they from what I hear why there are deaths in Mexico and most here so far have been mild? I wonder what can cause that to happen? I'm sure we will find out more over the next coming days.

I wish it were so... but the CDC folks said no on CNN today.  Then later someone said that another someone said maybe...right.  I think they are really not wanting to panic the public...we all knew that and knew we would have to get supplies and perhaps SIP ahead of the formal declarations of school and other public closings.  Today on CNN they said they had to check out a day care in the Bronx...anyone hear anything more on that?

my hunch is all these cases so far in the US may actually be a different strain and just regular old flu. Maybe swine and bird strains are actually common but they never put the average persons sample under such vigorous testing. Or maybe it is mutating already and becoming weaker. It makes no sense at all for it not to kill kids if it is killing 25-40 year olds. I fear that we haven't even seen the worst of the virus strains yet. And these stupid officials are playing it to slow! Are they just waiting for it to get horrible so they can THEN stop travel to and from Mexico when it is to late. I'm really scared about how the people in charge are so incompetent with this kind of emergency. If this had been a terrorist virus bio weapon we would have had no chance by now.

Another thing I can't figure out is what the connection is with all these recent pig flu's. I remember reading a few weeks ago about a widespread flu in pigs in Vietnam and how they had to kill huge numbers of them to contain it in the pig populations there. We should really look at reforming pig farming to prevent this....if it isn't to late. I fear it is mother natures way of dealing with overpopulation. Anytime there is animals or people living to close together they get disease. I guess since the virus hasn't worked on controlling the pigs bc we keep slaughtering them in these overpopulated pig farms it is finding its way to the real source. Us.

I thought I read that they said it was the exact same strain and that is why they were puzzled why the US citizens were not dying yet the Mexicans were...did I read wrong?

I'm watching the news and they say the strain that sickened the NYC folks is the same strain as the one in Mexico.

Yeah they been playing with H1N1 from the 1918 for the past 8 yrs,they send out test vials of live H2N2  by mistake,H1N1 has been for the most part dead for years,now its back with not bird flu antigens like the H1n1 from 1918 but with swine antigens drifts?this looks to me like a lab release big time!