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    Posted: May 27 2021 at 1:27am

DJ [url]https://nltimes.nl/2021/05/26/hague-court-orders-shell-cut-emissions-45-percent-first-its-kind-ruling[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2021/05/26/hague-court-orders-shell-cut-emissions-45-percent-first-its-kind-ruling ;

The District Court in The Hague issued a landmark ruling ordering multinational oil and gas company Shell to drastically cut its carbon dioxide emissions by 2030. The court ordered the British-Dutch company to reduce net emissions by 45 percent compared to 2019 levels. This gives Shell more room to achieve its goal by also using strategies which compensate for expelled emissions, such as carbon capture and storage or reforestation.

The reduction is based on the emissions directly caused by Shell as a business, and not by the use of the fuel it sells to businesses and consumers. Shell was ordered to demonstrate it is making its best efforts to meet the target set by the ruling. The ruling affects all companies and legal entities that Shell "commonly includes in its consolidated annual accounts" which together comprise of the Royal Dutch Shell group, the court stated.

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At the end of 2019, the Dutch State was also ordered to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. The Supreme Court sided with climate organization Urgenda's argument that a failure to enact policy to cut emissions by 25 percent in comparison to 1990 was a "violation of human rights by the State."

If you would translate those rulings into how governments deal with this pandemic maybe policies could get a bit more rational...

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CNN : It's getting more likely the world will reach a climate tipping point in the next five years.

http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/AAnbpIW8H70/index.html

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[url]https://en.milieudefensie.nl/news/historic-victory-judge-forces-shell-to-drastically-reduce-co2-emissions[/url] or https://en.milieudefensie.nl/news/historic-victory-judge-forces-shell-to-drastically-reduce-co2-emissions ;

Main points from the verdict

1 Royal Dutch Shell must reduce its emissions by 45% net by the end of 2030.

2 Shell is also responsible for emissions from customers (scope 3) and suppliers.

3 There is a threat of human rights violations to the ‘right to life’ and ‘undisturbed family life’.

4 Shell must comply with the judgment immediately, because Shell's current climate policy is not concrete enough.

Donald Pols concludes: "This verdict is an enormous step forward for the international climate movement. One of the world’s biggest polluters has finally been held responsible. I am filled with hope for the future, as we know that the climate crisis does not wait and does not stop at our borders. That is why it is so important the judge is now forcing Shell to take responsibility for its actions. This is also a clear signal to the other big polluters that they also have to act now ."

DJ Milieudefense/friends of the Earth-NL is now working with the French group in a proces against Total. Here in NL enviromentalist groups will have talks with major polluters to clean up their proces. The court order is a means of pressure. 

Shareholders of Royal Dutch Shell seem to welcome the outcome of the legal process-a lot of them wanted Shell to become more durable...expected this sort of outcome. In Dutch "politics" right wing parties tend to claim the judge made a political decission...(proberbly defending a right for pollution as "freedom"...) left wing parties welcome the outcome. 

[url]https://en.milieudefensie.nl/news[/url] or https://en.milieudefensie.nl/news has some of the info used in this legal case. 

DJ-Will changes come in time ? We will have to see that-but at least try to limit the damage [url]https://paulbeckwith.net/[/url] or https://paulbeckwith.net/ ....

I (DJ) see a lot of similarity in the way "governments/politics" fail in climate collapse and this pandemic. A see of words and a desert in actions...Spending billions to do nothing...denial of the problem, transfer of tax payers money to a rich elite getting richer... 


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[url]https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/27/australian-court-finds-government-has-duty-to-protect-young-people-from-climate-crisis?/url] or https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/27/australian-court-finds-government-has-duty-to-protect-young-people-from-climate-crisis? ;

The federal court of Australia has found the environment minister, Sussan Ley, has a duty of care to protect young people from the climate crisis in a judgment hailed by lawyers and teenagers who brought the case as a world first.

Eight teenagers and an octogenarian nun had sought an injunction to prevent Ley approving a proposal by Whitehaven Coal to expand the Vickery coalmine in northern New South Wales, arguing the minister had a common law duty of care to protect younger people against future harm from climate change.


Justice Mordecai Bromberg found the minister had a duty of care to not act in a way that would cause future harm to younger people. But he did not grant the injunction as he was not satisfied the minister would breach her duty of care.

David Barnden, a lawyer representing the children, said it was a historic and “amazing decision” with potentially significant consequences.

“The court has found that the minister owes a duty of care to younger children, to vulnerable people, and that duty says that the minister must not act in a way that causes harm – future harm – from climate change to younger people,” he said outside court. “It is the first time in the world that such a duty of care has been recognised, especially in a common law country.”

DJ-"We" do accept two million people getting killed in car accidents per year-millions of people dying due to pollution..."because it is good for the economy"...This pandemic is the outcome of "saving the economy" by not stopping international air travel when the Wuhan lockdown started january 2020...

The big question now is how do we correct politics ? Politics is "off the rails", "out of balance" to keep it polite-less polite would be "corruption rules"...big money is in control-dressing up as "democrazy" starting energy wars, not stopping climate collapse or pandemics out of greed and criminal stupidity... 


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