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    Posted: March 23 2020 at 9:53am

Report: Obama Admin Depleted Stockpile of N95 Masks, Never Restored


https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/03/23/report-obama-admin-depleted-stockpile-of-n95-masks-never-restored/?fbclid=IwAR3h7lekIbj_y3gNH3lZqWLYxmE9ehycDKFXJAwg_qmdUj5gRrhULlpYxfo


Bloomberg News reported similar findings last week, noting, “after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”

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^Yep.  I was very critical of the Obama administration handling of the 2009 Swine Flu pandemic, and this is correct. 

Here is the problem: no politicians like to pay for public health.  Prevention doesn't get votes, unlike Medicaid, food programs etc.  So PH programs are always trimmed/cut back/robbed to pay for pet projects.  Both parties do it.  

Under Pres. George W. Bush, a lot of money was spent on Homeland Security.  However, we never had another terrorist attack, and polticians figured it was all a waste.  Hospitals had all sorts of masks, ventilators etc. that became out of date, I'm sure a ton of unused masks were just tossed in the trash due to expiration of use dates. 

Well, now we see where this lack of preparation leads us. Every scientist I know has been screaming for years that another pandemic was likely.  Did the politicians care?  Nope.  Trump needed his wall, Dems needed public services right now for the poor.  That's the way of life in the US of A. 

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Yup.  I remember that.  And I remember the criticism of Obama handling or failings in handling the H1N1 pandemic.  I was one of them.  But I don't remember Obama blaming another administration for his failures.  

"It’s Obama’s fault? Shortly before Trump’s inauguration, the Obama administration held a high-level briefing with incoming Trump officials to prepare them for a pandemic. In 2018, Trump slashed the high-level pandemic-response office he inherited."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/trump-coronavirus-hospital-masks-blames-obama-ppe.html

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Ok so why is everyone blaming President Trump for no masks?????   LOL Obama blamed Bush for everything that went wrong...LOL you don't remember that!!!!

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Maybe it's because trump has had 3 YEARS to Replace them, and while we saw it coming  here on AFT

 He was saying it was a Democratic plot.....on video..... 

now he saying the Chinese didn't tell all, he's trying to push the blame  away from himself, 

He's undone enough of Obama's polices  ,he could have easily replaced the masks....

 And this Should be in the political posts......

I deleted most of what I was going to say, because 

THIS IS NOT the time or the place for the BLAME GAME 

it's time to pull together......

And please keep it in the political posts,i don't even look there any more......

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Honestly!  Really?!

Obama could have left things better, Trump could have made them better. 

Does it really matter who we blame now?

Back Trump for now, even if you hate him.  We need unity to fight this.  

........  And I'll try to get behind Boris  

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When we bought our house it was quite run down and the previous owner hadn't painted it. When we took it over, we painted it and in fact we fully renovated it. I don't live in a scummy house and blame the previous owner for the state of it, instead I just got on and brought it up to our standard. Trump has had ample opportunity to do the same. He's just chosen not to.

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Hi Carbon, I believe you asked for reminders...   calling him Chump is not coming together.   

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Originally posted by Lakeman5 Lakeman5 wrote:

Hi Carbon, I believe you asked for reminders...   calling him Chump is not coming together.   


They can't stop the hate! 

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Sorry,

the whole post just annoyed me, shall amend....

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Originally posted by Lakeman5 Lakeman5 wrote:

Hi Carbon, I believe you asked for reminders...   calling him Chump is not coming together.   


They can't stop the hate! 

I'm not sure which is worse.... passing the blame in a partisan way... or name calling.    You started this FluMom.  This post should not have been in general discussion.  It should have been in politics only because of the partisan blame game.  Please stop.  You're a Chief Moderator, for heaven's sake!  

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Currently I support the idea of advocating Trump, but Witchy has you bang-to-rights there, FluMom.

Now who can't stop the hate?

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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Yup.  I remember that.  And I remember the criticism of Obama handling or failings in handling the H1N1 pandemic.  I was one of them.  But I don't remember Obama blaming another administration for his failures.  

"It’s Obama’s fault? Shortly before Trump’s inauguration, the Obama administration held a high-level briefing with incoming Trump officials to prepare them for a pandemic. In 2018, Trump slashed the high-level pandemic-response office he inherited."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/trump-coronavirus-hospital-masks-blames-obama-ppe.html

Lol 0bama blamed Shrub, Shrub blamed Slick Willy, on and on ad infinitum. 

American memories are short. 

All that said, the best part of waking up is knowing Hillary lost to Trump. God the salt mines from that one have been deep and productive. I personally don't care either way other than being able to troll one side or the other. 

Now? Now the Berniebots are getting both barrels. Oh their righteous indignation is soooo delicious. I wish I could bottle it and season every dish and drink with their salty tears. 

And when Joe "I don't even know where I pooped" Biden gets trounced by the other dumbass, there will be salty tears forever. 

My only fear is that Congress would actually work with Biden. I don't want them screwing up anything else. 

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No that's only what the bobble heads on Fox News tells you.  


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Good thing that millions more Americans watch the bobble heads than the rest of the MSM hacks.

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Fox - Fox Entertainment Group
MSNBC - NBCUniversal News Group
CNN - Turner Broadcasting
Bloomberg - Bloomberg Business Week


See anything glaring and obvious?  I'll help.  Even Rupert Murdoch said Fox was an entertainment channel...  

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Fox News is a subsidiary of Fox Entertainment. Fox News has news shows and opinion shows. Fox News channel beats every other network (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) 

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And when Joe "I don't even know where I pooped" Biden gets trounced by the other dumbass, there will be salty tears forever. 

My only fear is that Congress would actually work with Biden. I don't want them screwing up anything else. 

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LOL Turbo that is so true.  I have some problems with Trump too...he is a true egotist but better than Dementia Biden.

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This is NOT the politics forum. Come on you guys, this board is getting unbearable. 

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