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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

...and the Republicans aren't doing anything!



At last we agree on something Wink


And that's a GOOD thing.

When the arseholes in DC do things is when bad stuff happens. I LIKE gridlock. The less they're able to do, the better.
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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:


Nice distraction, TG. You know as well as I do that Satori wasn't blaming Bush for the ACA - he was challenging you on your assertion that Obamacare was the worst thing since the beginning of time. You know, one of these days we'll just have to agree to disagree and use the free time constructively. I shouldn't even be doing this right now - I'm supposed to be fixing my transmission.


Meh, transmission will wait. Manual or automatic? Most people who take a look at the genius of the planetary gear system might go as crazy as the guy that invented it. Someone told me once that the guy that invented it went nuts and ate his own head or something to that effect.

I wasn't talking about his blaming Bush for 0bamacare not working, but for bringing Bush up in the first place. 0bamacare will absolutely be the single most destructive piece of legislation since the war on drugs and prohibition. It will absolutely make the lies told to get us into Iraq look like peas in comparison to the moon.

Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

Unless I'm wrong about you, you're smarter than this



Fooled ya LOL
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No. You're capable of math and I know you are.

Just because your side is in power doesn't excuse you from simple math.
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Originally posted by Satori Satori wrote:


"It is certain now that a popular revolt is coming."


And in my experience, that is exactly what they want. Why else would they nationalize and then royally screw up a sixth of our economy?

Everything is that long essay is absolutely true, however, any revolution we have in this country isn't going to remain nonviolent for long. There are entirely too many divisions and hatreds simmering to not have any nonviolent revolution not go hot.

Eventually one side or the other will do something stupid. Law enforcement might overreact and kill someone or someone with a gun shoots a police officer and the lit match has been dropped into the bucket of gas. The other side will instantly be able to justify any means necessary to get to whatever end they desire.

When that happens, the elite will absolutely resort to iron fisted subjugation up to and including loosing the military on our populace.

There is only one way this is going to end, and that's violence, and the guys in power know it.
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Update: Once more -

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/20/obama-approval-rating-sinks-37-percent/

This is yesterday. 

President Obama’s approval rating has sunk to 37 percent in a new poll released Wednesday — the lowest of his presidency — and his disapproval rate is at 57 percent, a new high for him in CBS News polls.

His approval rating has dropped 9 points since October, according to the CBS News poll.


Approval of his health care overhaul, commonly known as Obamacare, is now at an all-time low of 31 percent and disapproval is at 61 percent, a high for the poll, as his administration scrambles to deal with the fallout from a rocky rollout of major parts of the law on Oct. 1. Forty-six percent say they “disapprove strongly” of the law.

Eighty-eight percent of Republicans disapprove of the law — little changed from last month’s 87 percent figure. But approval among independents fell from 38 percent to 27 percent, and approval of Democrats dropped from 74 percent to 58 percent.

Two-thirds say the signup for insurance on government health care exchanges is not going well, and nearly two-thirds are not confident that the federal HealthCare.gov website will be mostly fixed by Dec.

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Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

Meh, transmission will wait. Manual or automatic? Most people who take a look at the genius of the planetary gear system might go as crazy as the guy that invented it. Someone told me once that the guy that invented it went nuts and ate his own head or something to that effect.



Automatic. Nothing too complicated with this one - just a replacement valve body, although I have another rebuild looming that'll involve a planetary/sun gear swap (quick and dirty way to get a lower first gear with factory parts), rebuilding/reprogramming the valve body, new high performance bands/clutches/steels, and switching out the stock four clutch front drum for a five clutch unit.
I have to say I fell in love with the concept behind planetary gears the first time it was explained, but I needed to have a set in my hands for it to finally make sense. But I'm sure that designing a set from scratch, and seeing them after the fact are two entirely different things. Didn't have to eat my own head, thankfully.
How did we get on to this...?


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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Originally posted by Turboguy Turboguy wrote:

Meh, transmission will wait. Manual or automatic? Most people who take a look at the genius of the planetary gear system might go as crazy as the guy that invented it. Someone told me once that the guy that invented it went nuts and ate his own head or something to that effect.



Automatic. Nothing too complicated with this one - just a replacement valve body, although I have another rebuild looming that'll involve a planetary/sun gear swap (quick and dirty way to get a lower first gear with factory parts), rebuilding/reprogramming the valve body, new high performance bands/clutches/steels, and switching out the stock four clutch front drum for a five clutch unit.
I have to say I fell in love with the concept behind planetary gears the first time it was explained, but I needed to have a set in my hands for it to finally make sense. But I'm sure that designing a set from scratch, and seeing them after the fact are two entirely different things. Didn't have to eat my own head, thankfully.
How did we get on to this...?




You started talking mechanical things.

Just because I disagree with your politics doesn't mean that you and I wouldn't like each other personally and share many of the same interests. We can have a perfectly civil conversation about everything other than politics too.

I absolutely fell in love with the innards of the Automatic Transmission when I was in high school and took my first one apart to see exactly what's going on in there, how pressure is used, clutch operates, etc.

I used to have a Crown Victoria that I bought from the PD and had to have had 250,000 miles on the thing. I somehow lost third gear. In the police interceptor, when you put the hammer down, there's quite a lot of slip between second and third. Since I had it when I was young, stupid, and carried a badge, so I didn't worry about getting traffic tickets, I would routinely floor it throughout the low gears. Did you know the transmissions from Ford were titanium? I didn't until I yanked it apart and saw that the gears were gold looking and asked an expert.

That transmission was shot anyway, so I entered it into a demolition derby. You only really need up to second and reverse, LOL.
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My kid's been angling for me to get a police interceptor for a while now, but I have something of a lead foot and the gas mileage isn't exactly stellar at the best of times in a Crown Vic. Would be a fun ride though.
And politics aside, I'm sure we do have more in common than just hanging out here for the past six years LOL
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This appears that some have taken control of this thread and are leading it way off topic. What you are discussing on here has nothing to do with Obama Ratings or even general discussion of a faulty presidency.  It's like a thread filibuster to a very read thread, that is very controversial?  I realize in AFT it is impossible sometimes to keep people on topic. But aside from providing a forum for debate of a few users over things completely off topic, I will continue to post data on this thread.

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Obama ratings continue to drop.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/25/presidents-marks-as-manager-take-hit-in-new-cnnorc-poll/?hpt=hp_t2

According to the survey, conducted last Monday through Wednesday, 40% say the President can manage the government effectively. That 40% figure is down 12 percentage points from June and is the worst score Obama received among the nine personal characteristics tested in the new poll.

Comment: This is not accurate. Numerous polls have cited numbers of the approval rating at 37-39%.  This drop into 30s is very significant.

The recent Iran deal is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It has created a rift between the U.S. and Israel that could have dire consequences. Iran is now approved to continue enriching uranium  and will be given billions of dollars in assistance which will fuel its nuclear program.  The was the core of the a flood of mixed news. Some say it will bring nuclear capability within 5 years.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/uranium-enrichment-heart-iran-nuclear-deal-20993831

So  Obama's approval rating has been untouched by a blatant attempt to shift attention from Obamacare disaster. It is the continuing propaganda of events being huge accomplishments and have huge value, that has plagued this administration.  Nothing so far done has had any major effect on the U.S. economy and if the U.S. continues to decline status in the European, U.K. and Middle East world, this could have drastic effects.   Africa is being taken over by terrorists and we have lost Egypt.

People are not blind. If Israel launches to protect itself from a real nuclear threat, there will be a showdown in the Gulf with U.S. ships and Peter the Great, the Russian flagship and sub and aircraft subsurface power boats that will ignite the final war and take out destroyers and subs.

If so, this agreement will be historically one of the worst in history and so has Israel said in recent statements. Yesterday -

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/24/netanyahu-iran-deal-israel-nuclear_n_4332906.html

"Today the world became a much more dangerous place," Netanyahu said.

It is truly unrealistic to ignore congress, to dismantle the basic structure of the Senate and in a Democracy, the people were promised many things of which none were delivered of great importance.

The will of the people is the essence of democracy. Being honest and truthful is bottom line to a good president. There are articles stating that to lie as a president is shrew and shows he is capable. How sad a day when people begin to praise an untruthful leader.

Perhaps like no medical care in a Pandemic, it is felt the feeling and desires of a U.S. population which may be heading for brutal depression is not important. Only their votes and anger towards incompetent law makers doesn't matter.

We have reached a point in U.S. national history that will change the world, not just the U.S. as we know it.

Despite CNN's quick poll after other polls in the 30s hit does not agree with the NBC poll.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/20/obama-approval-rating-sinks-37-percent/


President Obama’s approval rating has sunk to 37 percent in a new poll released Wednesday — the lowest of his presidency — and his disapproval rate is at 57 percent, a new high for him in CBS News polls.

His approval rating has dropped 9 points since October, according to the CBS News poll.


This was five days ago. It has been true since October.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/public-blames-obama-gop/2013/10/09/id/530025

The article was on the Associated Press-GfK survey of 1,227 probable voters conducted Oct. 3-7, with a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points.

http://article.wn.com/view/2013/11/13/Poll_US_losing_trust_in_Obama_approval_ratings_show_historic/#/related_news

http://article.wn.com/view/2013/11/19/Obama_free_falling_in_new_polls_from_disastrous_health_care_/#/related_news

The Examiner 2013-11-19: Most of the major political polls have now determined that President Barack Obama approval ratings are hitting all time lows, while his disapproval rating is now skyrocketing. The latest poll from ABC News/Washington Post released on Monday, Nov. 18, 2013 listed their poll's lowest approval rating results of Obama's presidency and registered the highest disapproval rating. The new poll numbers coincides with Gallup polls' daily Obama Job Approval tracking on Monday, Nov, 18 and a Quinnipiac University poll released on Tuesday, Nov. 12. The President's lowering marks are mostly caused by the troubled rollout of...

Conclusion: There is no joy in predicting these numbers or the implications of them. I continue to pray for our President everyday and ask God to clear his mind and give him workable solutions to address the "house of cards" ACA. Americans voted someone in with promises of jobs, better economy, keeping their insurance if they wanted, and has since failed to together a workable plan to save the U.S. economy.

Is this continued drop in ratings significant in American history? Yes, it is.

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Shocking. Off topic posts in the general discussion section? TG - you should be ashamed... LOL
Med - you should be happy we're being civil in a thread about Obama. Would you rather two of the senior members of AFT were publicly at each other's throats - again? When we do get talking like this (instead of, well, scroll back a few pages and see) it makes me realize that we're actually fairly like minded where it matters, and despite appearances, the liberals and conservatives on AFT are in fact much much aligned than we often appreciate, especially when it comes to our beliefs about what the future holds.
Call it a little light relief from the looooong meandering posts that some feel obliged to contribute with, Med. And just in case anyone gets their knickers in a twist over that comment, I humbly include myself in that group. Don't get upset if it looks like someone's stealing your thread - we've all had that happen, and most of the time we take the high road, skip over the comments and continue where we left off. Or this happens, and the deviation from the thread topic becomes the topic.
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I do wonder why oil is trading lower, and gas prices are coming down? Clap

Apparently Israel turned out to be a less than beneficial bed partner. Any so called leader who contributes so little to the relationship, deserves to be served their walking papers. I consider this to be a glorious move on the part of the Maritime Ship U.S.A.

At least I am hopeful that this situation will bring in the locusts. I love locusts!
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I'm loving these gas prices, although I personally find locusts a little too crunchy for my taste. And all those legs...
No wait, what where we talking about again?
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Locusts=deflation. How low, can they go? The locust munches on the investors profits. But don't worry, nothing every happens in Bethlehem.Wink
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Great that we have a society where we can share differences and then come back together. Says something about Democracy. Just hope those in power don't blow it. Just for the record - - gas prices have shot up about 30 cents a gallon here in Florida over the past two weeks. We are told refineries are having problems and we are too far from the oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. I smell cut backs in supply to boost prices and profit.
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Originally posted by Seawolfe Seawolfe wrote:

Great that we have a society where we can share differences and then come back together. Says something about Democracy. Just hope those in power don't blow it. Just for the record - - gas prices have shot up about 30 cents a gallon here in Florida over the past two weeks. We are told refineries are having problems and we are too far from the oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. I smell cut backs in supply to boost prices and profit.


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Actually there is nothing democratic about a Plutocracy. Those who hold the reign on the financial power structure make the Maritime Rules, and those who think they are empowered by voting, are merely choosing who will hold the Power of Attorney on behalf of the voter.

This is the same as what would happen to an individual who was deemed mentally retarded or below an age of reason, to take care of their own finances, property and rights. The State holds, all of the Estates. The Federation is the Umbrella of the Holders.

Florida is a strange place. My Great Grandfather tried to alert individuals, nearly 100 years ago, to the dangers of expanding one's horizons on land that was merely fill dirt over sink holes and swamp land. How is that going for you folks today?

As far as gas prices going up and down. It is true, they are kind of like hormone imbalances. One day they are up and the next they are down. Not stable and they can not be relied upon as a measure of future events. It would be more productive to use a divining rod. Oh no! You live in Florida, and it looks like rain.Cry


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Originally posted by jacksdad jacksdad wrote:

Shocking. Off topic posts in the general discussion section? TG - you should be ashamed... LOL
Med - you should be happy we're being civil in a thread about Obama. Would you rather two of the senior members of AFT were publicly at each other's throats - again? When we do get talking like this (instead of, well, scroll back a few pages and see) it makes me realize that we're actually fairly like minded where it matters, and despite appearances, the liberals and conservatives on AFT are in fact much much aligned than we often appreciate, especially when it comes to our beliefs about what the future holds.
Call it a little light relief from the looooong meandering posts that some feel obliged to contribute with, Med. And just in case anyone gets their knickers in a twist over that comment, I humbly include myself in that group. Don't get upset if it looks like someone's stealing your thread - we've all had that happen, and most of the time we take the high road, skip over the comments and continue where we left off. Or this happens, and the deviation from the thread topic becomes the topic.


Yea, I thought about it and true enough. And no, over the years I have seen it really heat up in here- freedom of speech is just that. The concept of global interaction we have here is very good with opinions which span cultural and geographical boundaries.

If I were posting this stuff on my own site it would probably be down in 5 minutes. Thank you Albert for creating and giving us one of the best places, if not the best Prep site on the net.

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Thanks for being a good sport, Med. You're right - this is a pretty special place given how heated and fractious it gets at times.

Seawolfe - don't you just love the reasons (excuses) that the oil companies give for differing gas prices. Ours has been dropping for a while, but I know that's not going to last so I'm enjoying it while I can.
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Heard a report a few months back that some of the Iraqi oil fields (yes fields) we're being taken off line because of "maintenance" reasons. Oil from shale will make the US the holder of more oil than the Saudis hold. The last time I was in Saudi Arabia gas was going for 10 cents a gallon. Wonder when our prices will be effected by true supply and demand?   
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Entire oil fields shut down for maintenance? That's strange Disapprove
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This is becoming rather sad in with  a new projection that 78 million people will lose their health care coverage with carriers who cannot meet "Obama standards." With some premiums more than their monthly house payment. It is even more serious as groups begin to express their feelings directly during appearances of the President. Other presidents have faced this but the continuing ratings fall is significant.

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/11/video-obama-heckled-crowd-seems-to-back-heckler-2574104.html


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One down in Ohio -

Low approval numbers in Ohio

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/

President Barack Obama’s job approval rating among Ohio voters is a negative 34 – 61 percent, his lowest score in any Quinnipiac University poll nationally or in any state, according to a poll released today. 
President Obama’s previous low in Ohio was a negative 40 – 57 percent in a June 26 survey by the independent Quinnipiac University. His previous low in any state was a negative 36 – 59 percent in Colorado November 20.

Obama Hits All time Low of 34% Approval in Ohio, 61% Disapproval


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/27/cnnorc-poll-are-obamacares-flaws-fixable/?hpt=po_c1


Washington (CNN) – Despite the flawed rollout of HealthCare.gov, a majority of Americans still seem to have an open mind about whether Obamacare will work, and more than half of those surveyed in a new national poll believe the current problems can be solved.

next paragraph:

Only a third of Americans approve of Obama's implementation of the new health care law, while 63 percent disapprove.

comment: It would seem that some believe Americans incapable of reading or interpreting simple numbers. Despite the cold hard fact that two-thirds  do not approve of Obamacare,an additional question is used to tip the scales and states  most people are undecided. 

a majority of Americans still seem to have an open mind versus 63% disapprove.

It is likely, with 78 million insurance policy cancellations on the way and millions which have already occurred, that this will be reflected in the numbers of  people who opt not to sign on.

Conclusion; While the Ohio sample is highly askew which creates high numbers in one area, the polls taken recently nationally as little as a day after a bad one, were designed to show better numbers, than were earlier analyzed to show a high disapproval of Obamacare.  











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NBC skips releasing blistering numbers as Obama ratings continue to plunge. 



Despite a running time of four hours, NBC's Today show on Tuesday skipped a blistering poll
(direct link to video)  for Barack Obama and the latest news about the disastrous rollout of the President's health care law. Yet, the morning show managed five minutes for discussing the new TV special from singer John Rich and three minutes on table etiquette for Thanksgiving. Not exactly pressing topics. In contrast, both ABC's Good Morning America and CBS This Morning covered the current wave of bad news.

An ABC News/Washington Post survey found Obama's approval rating at just 42 percent, what Jon Karl referred to as "the lowest job approval we have ever seen" for his presidency. GMA's George Stephanopoulos conceded that these are "brutal numbers." Karl even relayed this result: "We asked voters if they can have a mulligan on the 2012 presidential election, who they would vote for? A plurality now say they would vote for Romney over Obama." [See video. MP3 audio here.] The journalists also focused on what the administration knew in advance of the impending ObamaCare collapse.


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2013/11/19/nbc-ignores-brutal-poll-president-latest-bad-news-obamacare-debacle



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hey

maybe Obama will get it right the third time around ???

WaPo's Modest Proposal: Dictator Obama


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-29/wapos-modest-proposal-dictator-obama



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The crossroads - We have reached a day when Obamacare, despite many website visits, there are no numbers on how many have enrolled. Press is entering the no-man's-land of l-i-a-r versus untruthful.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/12/02/exp-erin-sot-john-cornyn-comments.cnn.html


"When people start distrusting a politician it's over."

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Still continuing to drop and are now entering in some polls the dreary 30s in terms of voter approval.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-polls-lows-immigration/2013/12/05/id/540216

Obama at All-Time Low in Nearly Every Category


President Barack Obama’s dismal 39 percent approval rating is the bright spot of recent polling data, which indicates just how little Americans think of his policies, according to The Washington Post.

Americans panned the president in nearly every category, from the economy to healthcare to immigration, with approval ratings dipping into the low 30s, according to polling data from the Pew Research Center.

The recently released data reflects the president’s lowest-ever approval ratings.

Only 19 percent of American voters say Obamacare will improve the quality of care they will receive in the next year, while 43 percent think the quality of care will decline, according to Quinnipiac’s research.

A whopping 52 percent of Americans don’t think the president is honest and trustworthy, with 46 percent saying he “knowingly deceived” the country when he repeatedly pledged that Americans could keep their existing health plans.

Sixty-two percent of Americans polled think the president, who ran on the slogan of “Hope and Change,” is doing a poor job with the federal budget. Another 59 percent disapprove of how he is handling of the economy.

This article is today December 5, 2013 and current and from the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/12/05/why-barack-obama-cant-win/?wprss=rss_politics


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A new poll from the Harvard University Institute of Politics shows Millennials’ approval for Obama’s job performance down 11 points since just before the 2012 election, crashing to 41 percent. Twelve percent of Obama voters said that they would not recast ballots for the president and 47 percent said they would vote to recall Obama from office if given the opportunity. Just 22 percent said they planned to sign up for the law, meaning they could possibly face ObamaCare penalties. Fifty-seven percent opposed the law.
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WASHINGTON December 11, 2013 (AP)

Americans' perceptions of President Barack Obama are falling not only on his handling of the economy and other big issues, but also on more personal qualities such as honesty, a poll finds.

A clear majority of adults, 56 percent, say "honest" does not describe Obama well, according to The Associated Press-GfK poll. That's worse than his 52 percent rating in an October poll.

The AP-GfK Poll was conducted Dec. 5-9 using KnowledgePanel, GfK's probability-based online panel. It involved online interviews with 1,367 adults. The survey has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points for all respondents.



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New poll 38% approve 57% disapprove

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2924328013001/poll-disapproval-of-obamas-job-performance-hits-new-high/?intcmp=obnetwork


comment: Have we reached a point where public opinion is ignored because there is no pending presidential election? The polls of course vary, but the bottom line -- the majority of the people in the U.S. are not not happy as they enter the heart of the holiday season about the current administration.

source:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/11/obama-hits-new-poll-lows-approval-38-percent/

President Obama’s approval numbers have sunk to new lows, with a just-released Quinnipiac poll showing he’s dropped a full percentage point in that category in the past few weeks.

He now has a 38 percent approval rating, compared with 39 percent in mid-November, Breitbart reported. And that negative rating is trickling down onto Democrats who are seeking re-election. The Quinnipiac University survey author says the “outlook for Democrats running for Congress and the U.S. Senate fades also.”


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in some polls

the approval rating for Congress is in the single digits

yet

in any given year

app 90% of incumbents are put back in office


not sure what good polls are

or what they mean


the people pulling the strings

put in office who they want

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Haven't we got something better to talk about.

Best comment from Satori: The people who pull the strings put in office who they want. Obama rolled on the string pullers. Seeya Obama!
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Originally posted by cobber cobber wrote:

Haven't we got something better to talk about.

Best comment from Satori: The people who pull the strings put in office who they want. Obama rolled on the string pullers. Seeya Obama!


It is unlikely that Obama is going anywhere. The legacy of an unworkable health care plan makes us vulnerable to a possible coming Pandemic. This is one of the core areas of discussion on AFT.  Since healthcare is the flagship program of the current administration, it will effect people's basic ability to prepare, buy food to store, keep their cars running, and having a place to live, when several viral strains could sweep the globe at once.

The task of posting these really sad posts, when I am a patriot and love my country, is a tough call.  I think is necessary to keep people informed when the media has become unreliable and often sends out stories that are pure fiction.

This is a time of information wars.  One solves problems with accurate data and to prepare, we must know how things really are in the political world as well.  If funds are cut to veterans, the poor, and the unemployed, not only the people, but the stores they buy from, will be hit as well.  It could become a challenge to buy a loaf of bread. Shades of "Let them eat croissants (cake)" Marie Antoinette --  Sound familiar? A book was written about a French character name Jean Valjean from the novel Les Miserables (The wretched poor) by Victor Hugo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Valjean

 "Those who ignore history are doomed  to repeat it"

https://hernandoheckler.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/those-that-ignore-history-are-doomed-to-repeat-it/







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One should always hope for the best and prepare for the worst.  To prepare well, we must be aware of politics which affect our incomes, our families, and our health. As other posters here are tracking the outbreak in Texas , I have chosen to track several things that will effect not only those in the U.S., but in the world in terms of the ability to buy food, have homes, and make it safely through the Flu season.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/20/president-ends-year-at-all-time-cnn-polling-low/?hpt=hp_t1

"The growth in negative views of the President comes almost equally from the left and the right," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said

comment: Let's hope for the best President Obama. Where there's life, there is hope. Now is the time for you to shine like no other president and leave a legacy that will go down in history. You certain have time to do it. I pray that you will and that God will help you to do so.

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Obama will definitely leave a legacy, but it won't be a good one.
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I remember when Bush ad a ~35% approval rating or some such - Wolf Blitzer went on and on about it.  Don't see that with O.
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This is more an overview of what are some of the problems making Obama unpopular.  It is a quick and easy read and brings out specifics.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/18/judge-blasts-obama-governance-by-secret-law/?intcmp=obnetwork

JUDGE BLASTS OBAMA GOVERNANCE BY ‘SECRET LAW’

But given the frustrations among his tech patrons over Obama’s heavy-handed NSA tactics and obtuse health insurance system, what is Obama prepared to give away to get back in their good graces?

[ Noonan: “Most of the Obama people just don’t have a background in executing. They have a background in communicating, not doing.”]

Dr. Vivian Greentree, a Navy veteran and the wife of a naval flight officer who is currently deployed overseas, said military families appreciate federal fiscal concerns and know changes must be made, but said Congress was breaking its obligation.

CHRISTMAS CREEPERS FOR OBAMACARE - President Obama’s Twitter account offered up a picture of a grown man wearing children’s zip-up Christmas pajamas and cradling a cup of hot coco. Odd, right? The goal is to remind Obama’s volunteer corps to use the holiday season to urge family and friends to enroll in ObamaCare. Does the ironic infantilizing of adults sell insurance? Would you take advice on a financial decision from a man who dresses up like a child for Christmas?

comment: So, the beat goes on. Basically, it would appear the press advisers need advising. It is much like working in an advertizement firm where everyone in the conference room likes the idea, but the public hates it.  So it is with most of the current foreign and domestic policies in the United States.

Good advice for the advisers; go out and get in contact with the poor, the homeless, the struggling middle class, and the unemployed, who beyond all the rhetoric, are being hit hard. Put some solid programs in place where they can do the most good and help the hungry instead of passing legislative bills to super-fund the Defense Industry while taking the money to do it from disabled veteran's.

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It would seem that an earlier reference to Jean Valjean in Les Miserables was a foreshadowing of what is about to happen as the New Year approaches in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Miserables

Debtor's prisons?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/26/local-courts-reviving-debtors-prison

This will likely give the expression "A pound of flesh" new meaning.

In 2012, Circuit Judge Hub Harrington at Harpersville Municipal Court in Alabama shut down what he called the "debtors' prison" process there, echoing complaints that private companies are only in it for the money. He cited JCS in part for sending indigent people to jail. Calling it a "judicially sanctioned extortion racket," Harrington said many defendants were locked up on bogus failure-to-appear warrants, and slapped with more fines and fees as a result.


While a few new opinion polls  being run, the discrepancy  between those in the 30s versus current polls cannot be accurate. Nothing has improved and the proclamations of a million new persons versus 75 million who have lost or will lose their insurance is not a big gain.

The worse things become, the more the "Much ado about nothing", will continue.

People basically are not happy with things in multiple areas of domestic and foreign policy in which continued restatement of how good they are when in fact, they aren't .

Probably to "find an honest poll" like "finding an honest man", will continue to elude the press which already, in many cases, simply turn up the level of white noise of completely false news to some of the highest levels it has ever been in the U.S..







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Not BS but true. My Daughter-in-Law's health insurance just more than doubled. Health insurance now takes one of her two week pay checks each month. What do we tell her. It's okay cause your hard work goes to pay for insurance for someone you don't know? Want to tell my daughter-in-law you and your one year old just suck it up? Want to tell her Obama care is a good thing? It's easy to call something BS if you don't want to deal with reality - - facts. What do we tell her an millions like her?
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Thank all the people who put Obama back in office and all those Dems in the Senate and Congress. My insurance went from $850 to $940 a month at least I can afford it unlike Seawolfe's daughter in law.

Wait until Doctors convert to concierge. You will pay a one time fee like $600 - $1200 or more a year JUST to see the doctor of your choice. This does not include their fees. My sisters and moms two different Doctors have done this.

Thank Obama and the Dems for this and remember this when you vote in 2014 and 2016!
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/8/curl-obama-administration-in-full-meltdown/

As the president has plunged in approval rating, hitting a new low of just 39 percent, Hillary has hit a lifetime high of 66 percent (goes to show you what disappearing from the public eye can do for your popularity).

comment: Is it any wonder I predicted Hilary would be the next U.S. President and first female president in history in 2007?  Experience in having met and discussed foreign policy with many around who know and respect her around the world, is a big plus. 66% certainly trumps 39%- Good luck Hillary.

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with all due respect, Hillary is no better than Obama and is worse in many ways.

The last thing this country needs is another democrat for prez.  We need another party (tea party, independent, or libertarian) to take over both houses of congress or at least keep the two main parties from having control.  Then maybe they will start to work and LISTEN to the people and pass laws and REPEAL laws as needed.

I vote to REPEAL Obamacare, impeach his butt and kick him out!  Even Biden can't be worse.  Then take control of the senate from the democrats.  Kick out Pelosi and Reid as both are evil and have caused way too much damage as it is.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/21/obama-upside-down-one-year-after-second-inaugural/?intcmp=latestnews

As the ratings plunge into the 30s for the President, we see a society and economy which reflects years of bad decisions, foreign and domestic policy, and encouraging the use of drugs. The elderly, the disabled, the veterans, the poor, the homeless, and millions who have or will lose their health care have been abandoned.

This is not a issue of race.  It is an issue of leadership and making the right decisions.  The growing acceptance of a drug culture is not an advance.  The desire to put up a monument to Satan and remove In God We Trust from the money, to encourage alternate lifestyles as the norm, and put the education and trust in the morality of our children to marry, have a family, and continue the family unit as it has been for ten thousand years, are a not a way to build a better America.

To blatantly ignore the Constitution and put in place programs which do so and take way the rights of privacy and safety which are the core that makes America free and different than other places where there is tyranny and fear - is a bad choice of the first magnitude.

This thread was started to show what was coming.  It has tracked throughout a shutdown of the government, the support of a health care system doomed to failure, and a website for it that is truly poorly designed (Kevin Mitnick)

news release in November

On Wednesday, Roberta Stempfley, acting assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Cybersecurity and Communications, confirmed with lawmakers that there was, indeed a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack on the internet face of President Obama’s signature health care law.

Conclusion: The lackluster budget passed and still to be confirmed did not do anything but continue the same policies and programs without mentioning crucial areas that need funding and others which will, if ignored, cause severe problems in 2014.

Yet, the greatest point to be made here is that we may be about to face a health care crisis on a global scale during a period where we are the least prepared to deal with it.

This thread will probably fade and as we face the cold realities that it predicted others, hopefully with solutions, will emerge.

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Ouch! At the risk of you yanks comming over and throwing my tea in the north sea, I shure can see the o/care issue has got people fired up. Our national health is sacrosanct over here, and 2 years ago gave me a new abdominal aorta.  97% die, I lived and it was free!!.

However, we have a society that only thinks its free. We pay by letting oppresive socialist social ideas permiate our nation.  Every effort is made to take away guns, police and the judiciary are, at best, tarnished and the social services control us at a level that is akin to the early nazi state.  Apart from a barbaric death penalty and a bit of personal spying,  read the words on your national anthem and bill of rights and be prepard to defend them!!

Glad you have been reserected Jacks Dad' my wife has stopped crying and given me some use of my lap top. Good group you have in the forum ,but dont go any further right TG,that path can lure you into places you dont want to be.



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