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Cotton wool!

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Or list the package as containing crafting beads.

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I have actually sent liquid medicine on a regular basis to someone across the states that couldn't afford it. You know how they ask "any liquids" in here, I would say "nope" and off it went. Of course I packed it really well in a smallish box.

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Technophobe, you're right.  I'm wrong.  I rechecked that recipe and it states alcohol 90% or more.  

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Well went to the grocery store at 7 AM to aviod people and the place was a MESS.  They were restocking and there was a lot to restock.  People are paying attention.  They had TP and PT but I went to look for Toilet Bowl Cleaner and the place was almost empty.  They had what I needed but there were a lot of shelves almost empty.  But they did have the stock to fill the store.  

I think big chains like Kroger, Kings, Safeway have large warehouses they are pulling items from.  When you go to Sams or Costco you see what they have available everywhere their warehouse is their store.  

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I went to the local CVS in my small town and there were bare spots in some of the OTC cold and fever meds.  I picked up some more Coricidin HBP stuff for chest congestion for the hubster and me (we both have hypertension).  The one thing that was completely gone was the hand sanitizer. I was able to get some 90% alcohol and aloe gel (being in FL we have this stuff year round) so I can make some if we run out.  

****Question for those in the know:  Does hand sanitizer 'go bad'? I found a big jug of really old stuff that had been stored in a dark closet.  It is still clear and smells like normal...the texture is unchanged.  But the expiration date is 2007 (yep...thirteen years old!   ) I know that soap and water is best...but do I hang on to this and use it as well? 


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Not usually if sealed.  If open, the alcohol could evaporate, slowly losing effectiveness.  But if the seals are unbroken - no.


Many use-by dates are for the packaging.  Zero sum gain until opened.  Ibuprofen,  for instance, in a blister pack stays fine. But puncture the blisters and it will deliquesce.

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If the alcohol is still in it I would imagine it is...?

Btw: NO rubbing alcohol in Walmart or CVS within 30 miles of where i am. 

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Not usually if sealed.  If open, the alcohol could evaporate, slowly losing effectiveness.  But if the seals are unbroken - no.


Many use-by dates are for the packaging.  Zero sum gain until opened.  Ibuprofen,  for instance, in a blister pack stays fine. But puncture the blisters and it will deliquesce.

so, if I took a bunch of (some opened) expired hand sanitizer bottles and just filled them to the top with 91% alcohol, that should be okay?

Or would a 50/50 mix be better? Or some variation in between?

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I can't judge how fast the alcohol has evaporated, I only know it will have.  So, I would refil the opened ones 2/3 with 90% and 1/3 old mix (to be safe as this will give you a minimum of 60%)  and just use the unopened ones as they are - (no adjustment necessary).

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

I can't judge how fast the alcohol has evaporated, I only know it will have.  So, I would refil the opened ones 2/3 with 90% and 1/3 old mix (to be safe as this will give you a minimum of 60%)  and just use the unopened ones as they are - (no adjustment necessary).

That's the percentage I was planning on in the first place, was hoping I could get away with less. lol Thank you!!! 

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Costco end of the day today 4:00pm ish...sanitizing the cart handles for customers if they prefer. Normally toilet paper  top scaffolding to ceiling full, today just floor skids. Signs for “limit 2 per member” for all toilet paper, paper towels, diapers and bottled water, overall adequate stock. One fellow shopping cart definitely prepping- coffee, large cans, paper products. I had just a few random items including bag of potting soil “it’s nice to see someone will survive and plant flowers” (to her checkout person coworker. Me “so you’ve been busy selling toilet paper, 2 per person?” Worker “Yes, they couldn’t keep it on the shelves last night, as soon as the truck emptied it was gone, we were limiting 5 per person then corporate said “only 2 per person.” (I did not look for hand sanitizer, did see disposable gloves). Looked as though some of the larger bags of rice had been hit fairly hard, few bags left. Didn’t buy toilet paper, if she only knew I bought mine 3 weeks ago. Lol.

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No hand sanitizer at Meijers, Bath and Body Works, Target or Staples. None online either at any of those stores. 

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Wow....so people caught on to Bath and Body Works I see! My brother in law up in Boston couldn't find any either, although he did get 4 bottles of Seagram's (for his nightly Manhattans!) 4 pkags. Clorox wipes and 4 bottles of bleach. He made his own sanitzer today, since he did find rubbing alcohol and aloe vera gel!!

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90% I hope!  As I said earlier, I looked at the hand santizer recipe again and it specified 90% or above.  

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Dear brother couldn't find 90% alcohol (or hand sanitizer or disinfecting wipes or chlorine bleach)  I asked him if he had 90% (not 90 proof) alcohol.  He didn't but went to the local liquor store and found grain alcohol which is generally 95% alcohol.  Hey.. it'll do in a pinch!

I also told him I couldn't believe he got caught with his proverbial pants down and he's related to me.  It's not like we haven't talked about it... 

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Drinking alcohol is measured in %proof.  %proof is 1/2 standard measure.  So 95%proof is actually 47.5% alcohol.

Put the bottle upside down in the freezer. The water will freeze (above the alcohol in the bottom of the bottle), the alcohol will not. Simply pour this off and use.

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Yes.  Good tip for anything less than grain alcohol or less than 180 proof!

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Do not forget about peroxide, all the isopropyl alcohol is gone, peroxide still in good supply. Does anyone recall seeing guidance in peroxide for disinfecting surfaces? Maybe I dreamt it.

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Nope.. sorry... posted a link but it was only about vinegar and bleach.  

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I went to Costco to buy some of our usual supplies (peanut butter, soy milk etc.) and looked for paper products....NOPE! 

Somebody told me that you had to get there early in the morning to get them!!  

We do have a supply, but I wanted to extend it.  I don't see the virus impacting production, but it may impact shipping and distribution.  

My choices for survival food include peanuts, salami, tree nuts (almonds, walnuts) etc. = nutrient dense foods.  

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Meijer grocery- no bananas, no bread, few eggs, no TP. Lines 10-15 carts deep every register. Indianapolis Indiana 

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Originally posted by hoosiermom22 hoosiermom22 wrote:

Do not forget about peroxide, all the isopropyl alcohol is gone, peroxide still in good supply. Does anyone recall seeing guidance in peroxide for disinfecting surfaces? Maybe I dreamt it.

Yes, saw it 7ish weeks ago. (HOW has it been that long???) Just the normal .03 solution is enough. I think leave on surface and dry.  

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The Governor of our state announced 6 cases in the state today! I realized this afternoon we were low on real cheese. ( I have a bunch of Velveeta in the pantry) Went to our small town Harps grocery and the shelves were bare!  No meat, no milk, no cheese, no bread, no flour! It's like the National Weather Service predicted a month long blizzard! All I can say is that if you need anything from here on out (at least until daily deliveries brake down) shop early in the day!

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Originally posted by FluMom FluMom wrote:

Well went to the grocery store at 7 AM to aviod people and the place was a MESS.  They were restocking and there was a lot to restock.  People are paying attention.  They had TP and PT but I went to look for Toilet Bowl Cleaner and the place was almost empty.  They had what I needed but there were a lot of shelves almost empty.  But they did have the stock to fill the store.  

I think big chains like Kroger, Kings, Safeway have large warehouses they are pulling items from.  When you go to Sams or Costco you see what they have available everywhere their warehouse is their store.  

Keep posting folks on what you see!


Hey mom, 


I'm in Bethany, I assume a bit North of you, and the Sam's club here at MacArthur and 40 is fully stocked as of this morning with everything other than hand sanitizer, it looks like. They've got the huge oranges, too. Things are the size of grapefruit. If you don't mind a drive up, you can at least get what you need here. 

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Originally posted by hoosiermom22 hoosiermom22 wrote:

Costco end of the day today 4:00pm ish...sanitizing the cart handles for customers if they prefer. Normally toilet paper  top scaffolding to ceiling full, today just floor skids. Signs for “limit 2 per member” for all toilet paper, paper towels, diapers and bottled water, overall adequate stock. One fellow shopping cart definitely prepping- coffee, large cans, paper products. I had just a few random items including bag of potting soil “it’s nice to see someone will survive and plant flowers” (to her checkout person coworker. Me “so you’ve been busy selling toilet paper, 2 per person?” Worker “Yes, they couldn’t keep it on the shelves last night, as soon as the truck emptied it was gone, we were limiting 5 per person then corporate said “only 2 per person.” (I did not look for hand sanitizer, did see disposable gloves). Looked as though some of the larger bags of rice had been hit fairly hard, few bags left. Didn’t buy toilet paper, if she only knew I bought mine 3 weeks ago. Lol.


For rice, go to the Asian markets. 40/50 pound bags cheap. I went to OK-KO groceries yesterday after work to get some kimchi and they had all the rice you could possibly ask for. 


I am already stocked up on that with three bags and don't want to have to buy more oxygen absorbers and diatomaceous earth to pack MORE away. 

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Went back to the store this morning 3/13/20 at 6:30 AM  well a lot of shelves were very empty and not much was being stocked back in.  I think their delivery comes tonight from what the meat man said.  God love the man there was no prepacked hamburger meat so I asked if he had in in the back.  He said no but he had some ground chuck he was putting out in the "meat display" to sell. I took the whole thing.  Got some country ribs love those.  Have to do vacuum packing of that stuff tomorrow and freeze on Sunday.

OH, frozen veggies was really empty too.  But got mostly what I need.  I am going back on Monday early morning to see what I can finish getting.

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Village life here.  Not cleared out, but almost was wheat flour.  I suppose people are planning on more baking than before.  Good supply of toilet paper, so priorities are different from in the cities!

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Amazon Fresh for my area is completely out of fresh meats, toilet paper, tissues, all canned soup (except cream of mushroom) and otc cold and flu remedies except Zicam.    I think people here in Southeast NY are paying attention...

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Rice, eggs, frozen veggies. These were things that were all readily available two days ago. I'm glad I already had them. People are picking through bulk dried beans and oats now.

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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Amazon Fresh for my area is completely out of fresh meats, toilet paper, tissues, all canned soup (except cream of mushroom) 

That's my favourite canned soup. It's delicious.  

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Did a pickup order at wally world Ocala Florida, rice, tuna in water, canned pasta, bottled water are mostly gone....toilet paper is decimated everything looks the same for when a hurricane is coming.

For you animal people (we have a small farm)...were going to do our feed run today, but omw home Friday, i passed the feed store, and the pickup trucks were filled to the brim leaving. I'll ask about the traffic when i go, and look at the pallet inventory later today.

P.S. I don't need more stuff, but was just being a bit of a piggy   

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Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Amazon Fresh for my area is completely out of fresh meats, toilet paper, tissues, all canned soup (except cream of mushroom) 

That's my favourite canned soup. It's delicious.  



         I have only used it once or twice for a recipe that calls for it.  And it seems almost all Instant Pot recipes call for it.  

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Was at Walmart yesterday.  Found out that people are jerks.  College kids were hording everything and leaving nothing for older people.  Had a talk with the manager.  he  admitted that a group of college students have brought sruff only to sell it on ebay later. I helped an 85 year old lady get stuff in her cart.  She looked confused as she talked to me.  I was very upset . We needed a few items and she was not able to buy them.  Tracked down one of the ebay students and demanded the toilet paper and coffee.  He had six cans of coffee and 8 huge packages of TP.  told him that if he didn't hand over the stuff, I would take his picture and shame him on the internet.  Found out that he had illegally parked in a handicap parking space.  Blocked him In to prevent him from driving off.  Cops came by and fined him 500 dollars and took all of his preps and gave them to three old vets who were shopping with me. Got to meet with a really neat guy  who flew p 51's  in Korea.  K 9 was there too.  gave him a doggie treat.   

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Bravo, for having the brass to confront them.....right is right, and wrong is wrong.


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On a lark, I searched ebay for toilet paper.  This is just one of many I found:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Scott-1000-Sheets-Per-Roll-Toilet-Paper-Bathroom-Tissue-4-Rolls-4000-Sheets/402160060677?epid=1582761636&hash=item5da29b8905:g:z0QAAOSw1~tea6rf

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I had a bit of help with the bratty student. My brother from another mother shows up.  He's 6 foot 4, 340 pounds of pure terror if you get on the wrong side of him. The guy is a monster.  Twerp Student was 5 foot 11 inches, maybe 180 on a good day.  Big guy is a really nice guy.  he helps us when he can.  He Is a bouncer and security guard. I am 5'6" and GF is 4 foot .   I have cerebral palsy and GF has a long list of issues.  K 9 loved GF and would not stop leaning into her. Cops laughed at Twerp and told him to hand over his stuff.  They also found weed in his vehicle.   Turned into a fun day for 3 vets and us. Twerp, not so much.  

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ME163, that's the best pandemic story bar none!

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ME163 You are my hero!!  

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Originally posted by ME163 ME163 wrote:

Was at Walmart yesterday.  Found out that people are jerks.  College kids were hording everything and leaving nothing for older people.  Had a talk with the manager.  he  admitted that a group of college students have brought sruff only to sell it on ebay later. I helped an 85 year old lady get stuff in her cart.  She looked confused as she talked to me.  I was very upset . We needed a few items and she was not able to buy them.  Tracked down one of the ebay students and demanded the toilet paper and coffee.  He had six cans of coffee and 8 huge packages of TP.  told him that if he didn't hand over the stuff, I would take his picture and shame him on the internet.  Found out that he had illegally parked in a handicap parking space.  Blocked him In to prevent him from driving off.  Cops came by and fined him 500 dollars and took all of his preps and gave them to three old vets who were shopping with me. Got to meet with a really neat guy  who flew p 51's  in Korea.  K 9 was there too.  gave him a doggie treat.   


BRAVO! AWESOME. Thank you!!!

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Good for you.  God smiles on you for helping these people and getting that greedy kid!

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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Amazon Fresh for my area is completely out of fresh meats, toilet paper, tissues, all canned soup (except cream of mushroom) 

That's my favourite canned soup. It's delicious.  



         I have only used it once or twice for a recipe that calls for it.  And it seems almost all Instant Pot recipes call for it.  

Next time, make it up as a soup and be sure to add at least one can full of milk. I think the instructions call for one can of milk and one of water, but it's extra creamy if you do two of milk. Enjoy it's lovely. And now it's making me hungry!!

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Originally posted by ME163 ME163 wrote:

Was at Walmart yesterday.  Found out that people are jerks.  College kids were hording everything and leaving nothing for older people.  Had a talk with the manager.  he  admitted that a group of college students have brought sruff only to sell it on ebay later. I helped an 85 year old lady get stuff in her cart.  She looked confused as she talked to me.  I was very upset . We needed a few items and she was not able to buy them.  Tracked down one of the ebay students and demanded the toilet paper and coffee.  He had six cans of coffee and 8 huge packages of TP.  told him that if he didn't hand over the stuff, I would take his picture and shame him on the internet.  Found out that he had illegally parked in a handicap parking space.  Blocked him In to prevent him from driving off.  Cops came by and fined him 500 dollars and took all of his preps and gave them to three old vets who were shopping with me. Got to meet with a really neat guy  who flew p 51's  in Korea.  K 9 was there too.  gave him a doggie treat.   


Good on you. I guess to some people this is just a joke at the moment. I don't know how stores can prevent this kind of behaviour. If they limit purchases to one per person, what's to stop people coming straight back in and doing another shop? You did the right thing.

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