How long could you survive under lock down?
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Topic: How long could you survive under lock down?
Posted By: arirish
Subject: How long could you survive under lock down?
Date Posted: January 25 2020 at 11:27pm
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If your government locked you down tomorrow how long could you last? Wuhan is 2.5 -3 days under lock down! How long will a city of 11.9 million last without daily deliveries of the necessities of life! How long will it be before the country starts the inevitable descent into chaos and anarchy? I'm sure they will last longer than most Western country's would but sooner or later the people will say enough! How long before the Central Committee sends in the military? ------------- Buy more ammo! |
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 1:00am
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I plan on 3 months,hard rations, I don't worry about getting and dying of a virus, That's the luck of the draw!!!, Not having enough to eat, That is just plain stupidity...... ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.đź–– Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 7:20am
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I agree. My concern is not getting the virus. These things happen but I could never watch my kids die so i have a full month of supplies but if we knew it was going to be longer it could be rationed and spread to 2 months. we have a gas grill, and gas heater. We keep a stockpile of medicine and masks. we don't have actual googles but could use swim goggles.Without the fresh fruits and veggies,I have a supply of chewy gummies for us all to get the vitamin C. Not everything we need but enough to keep my kids comfortable in case we have to SIP. ------------- NOW is the Season to Know that Everything you Do is Sacred |
Posted By: ME163
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 10:18am
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We have 3 months of freeze dried food and rice, beans and trail mix. meds are up to date. Ammo and guns oiled and ready to go, masks and gloves. |
Posted By: quietprepr
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 11:55am
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We have 3-6 months of canned and freeze dried food and masks, gloves, and OTC medicines. My goal would be to have my family SIP until a vaccine is developed. I work in public utilities (drinking water and electrical production and distribution) so I am not sure if I can avoid going to work, too many people are counting on what we do. We are pulling our emergency management team together this coming week to update our pandemic plan and try to get the agency better prepared. QP ------------- "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival." - W. Edwards Deming |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 12:07pm
| Hey quietprepr, you said a mouthful when you said the emergency management team is meeting to update the pandemic plan. That tells me that cities and counties are getting ready as they should. Good information. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 26 2020 at 12:11pm
| Oh how long could I survive lockdown...well that depends on how many I will have in my house. My son has a girlfriend an only child too so I may have to have her parents here. If there are 4 of us 6-9 months. Just have to get my water cubes ready with lots of water put in the basement. Need my son for that one. If it is just me a 1.5 to 2 years. I have a lot of freeze/dehydrated foods stored. |
Posted By: ME163
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 10:25am
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My main concern is for my partner, she has COPD and many other health issues. She has spinal cord injury and uses a sleep machine. We have the storage unit for back ups. She is really a miracle of god and I want her to be safe. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 10:29am
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I 'grock' your problems there. I also admire your steadfastness. Luckily SIP can be managed even with machinery and lots of meds. Lots of planning for you though. Be safe. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 10:40am
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Before we starve, or before we kill each other? ------------- "Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
Posted By: hoosiermom22
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 10:44am
| Jacksdad....”**note to self, buy more wine” |
Posted By: jacksdad
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 10:57am
 I have a lot of hand sanitizer if things get really grim  ------------- "Buy it cheap. Stack it deep" "Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong." Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 11:27am
I have a lot of wine!  ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 11:32am
That's why its called SIP....  ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 1:55pm
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We have plenty of alcohol. Just in case... ------------- Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. |
Posted By: arirish
Date Posted: January 27 2020 at 9:25pm
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You can always tell who's a newbie and who's an old timer here because the newbie's are freaking out and the old timers are joking around! I've really come to like a bunch of you! Keep safe! ------------- Buy more ammo! |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 28 2020 at 4:19am
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Eventually everyone dies. In the words of the late lamented Terry Pratchett (well the words of the orang-utang librarian in his wizard's library): "Eventually the graveyards are full of everybody." There are three important tricks...... 1, put it off as long as possible, 2, help those you can (but only without increasing the risk to you and yours substantially). 3, (THE IMPORTANT ONE!) enjoy the ride. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: pheasant
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 2:52am
Good lord, almost forgot to take a inventory, me and wife have been casually rotating the old stuff, (to make sure it was still good of course :) ------------- The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself......FDR |
hoosiermom22 wrote:Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 1:20pm
FluMom, it has been triggered for a while now. One of my MD contacts in the FBI wrote this: Please pass this on to the FBI InfraGard board and sector chiefs as a concern for Critical infrastructure owners and operators. Thanks Terry FBI https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51318246" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51318246 We learned a lot from SARS and all have emergency response plans. I work in water/wastewater infrastructure and have helped to write some of these. ------------- CRS, DrPH |
Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 10:07pm
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I like the way the FBI linked the BBC rather than a USA news vendor. Maybe it would be seen as more neutral politically to use a British source??? Anyway, Well done BBC |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 30 2020 at 10:54pm
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CRS people are worried but it is not here yet. Yes one or two here or there but seems contained here in the U.S. We will see it coming if it comes. I did my 6 week out shopping last Saturday I have a 4 week out list so I will see where we are at in 4 weeks. Thanks for all your insight. |
Posted By: Emswally
Date Posted: January 31 2020 at 5:45pm
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Hi all. New to this Forum. Work as a first responder And the management added more PPE for this situation on the 21 st. I started following intently and stocking up for that Just in case moment. More worried about dealing with Sick patients at work for the most part. Have enough To last around 3 months. See what happens. Idaho |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: January 31 2020 at 6:01pm
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Welcome aboard, Emswally. Assuming you did get the virus (God forbid!) the vast majority of people recover unscathed. So get fit now. Good diet, lots of exercise and be one of the recovered! If, as expected you avoid it, all is great - but you got fit too which is a bonus, if not then you beat it easily and nothing is lost. Wishing you all the best. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: February 01 2020 at 12:15am
| Sadly, I'm not sure, a few years ago I could say a year. I plan on doing an inventory of my pantry this weekend and see what I have and what I need. |
Posted By: Sheep Lady
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 5:25pm
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Hi, Tech, with you being in Scotland I would think you might have drambuie...that would kill anything. Saw they think the skeleton of Nessie washed ashore after the recent storm. ------------- Sheep Lady |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 5:46pm
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Nah! I'm a Macallan drinker. I used to like Laphrohaig, but they changed the recipe and I can't stand it now. But I love my Macallan. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 5:54pm
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We've got a very well stocked drinks cabinet. If it all goes pear shaped at least we will be able to enjoy a nip or two. ------------- Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 6:01pm
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Cheers! ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 6:20pm
| I hope this just kills us old people and does not mutate like 1918 Spanish and kill the young. |
Posted By: Thorne!
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 8:45pm
| Between the preps, gardens, greenhouses, animals, and what swims in the waters, lives in the shellfish flats, walks in the woods, grows in the woods we can go for years. Perhaps 50 people live with in 25 miles of us, and we take a boat ride to get to the dock where our vehicle is parked, thence a 90 minute drive to the nearest shopping. |
Posted By: Thorne!
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 8:55pm
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Our weak underbelly is my wife, who is a walking encyclopedia of all things medical, food preservation, herbalism and a lot more, is a type 1 diabetic. We have years of her supplies, and years of insulin, but it does have a shelf life. |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 9:09pm
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Do you have to keep her medication refrigerated? ------------- Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. |
Posted By: Legacy57
Date Posted: February 13 2020 at 9:44pm
| About 3 months at the very most, I guess. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 3:44am
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That is the problem with killing off the old. You lose too much knowledge. The only thing I can suggest, Thorne, is that you research the Ketosis diet. It is now used for epilepsy and weight loss, but it was originally invented to keep insulin dependant diabetics alive. It would be a risky and difficult thing, but it would buy time to get things back together. Above all, don't worry too much. I do see supply-line problems, but neither forever, nor too extreme. This ios not a slate wiper; it might be a reset. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 7:25am
| An interesting conversation about knowledge lost. I had with my niece last night was her dream to buy a farm and have all her "oldsters" in one place so she could watch over them. I told her she needed to revamp things and make it her five year plan. Both her father (my brother) and I seen to have the most the knowledge to make a sustainable community. As we are all in our 60's and my family is not long lived, she needs to do it sooner rather than later. |
Posted By: Thorne!
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 6:18pm
Yes, the insulin needs to be refrigerated to get the longest shelf life. While living/working in India I did an experiment with flash freezing insulin using "poor man's liquid nitrogen". What can I say. . . I'm a Science teacher. It was pretty cool. If you try it at home be sure your container can handle the temps, as well as what the container is resting on. (ask me how I know!) Once thawed the insulin was still effective. Link: http://amasci.com/amateur/liquid_n2.html Edited to add: Insulin will denature when frozen in a regular fridge freezer or home freezer. It takes to long to freeze and denatures. DO NOT DO THAT. |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 6:26pm
| Do you have off grid power? |
Posted By: Thorne!
Date Posted: February 14 2020 at 6:30pm
Yes, a 5.4 Kw system. |