RZ Mask Good As N 95 Mask?
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Topic: RZ Mask Good As N 95 Mask?
Posted By: FluMom
Subject: RZ Mask Good As N 95 Mask?
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 12:53pm
| My son says RZ Masks are better than N95 masks. Ok you experts out ther is my son right or full of it? I am planning on sending him a box of N95 masks to make sure he gets home alright. He came up with this alternative. |
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Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 1:01pm
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Down to 0.1 microns. Coronaviruses are 0.11 microns - so perfect. Maybe even better than N95. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 1:04pm
| Thanks Techno...I will have him get some. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 1:06pm
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They are not cheap. May be ok for you, all the UKs are imports from the USA. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 1:23pm
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These masks are useless unless they are professionally fitted. Sorry. ------------- CRS, DrPH |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 1:30pm
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Which ones, Chuck? RZ, N95 or all of them? ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 1:36pm
| Chuck ther are only three sizes and they give you how to fit. My son has access to these but he also has N95 s to get home. Hey it is only $200.00 for the three of us with filters for 9 wearings each worth it for my family. I always like back up over another back up...watched too many disaster apocalyptic movies. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 1:56pm
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We need answers here Chuck. 1. Which masks need to be professionally fitted? N95 and FFP3 masks all have videos telling you how to fit them and how to test if you have fitted them correctly. I can't find one for RZ masks. What else do we need to know? 2. What else do we need to know to wear them safely? 3. I believe how you take off the mask is as important (Don't touch the filter part, remove with straps and bag/bin without touching). Any idea where we can learn that - if there is more to learn? 4. Do you know of anywhere we can get a tutorial? ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 2:23pm
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Is it possible to extend the life of masks,
Like say putting on mask, Then a makeshift mask over it from some good quality cotton or silk? ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 2:30pm
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Also a great question. Here is another: Which are better, valved or non valved? ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 2:34pm
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I'd say valve if you wear specs.....
No steaming up ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 4:12pm
| I have two types of N95 with and without valves. I plan on only using if I HAVE to go out . But you have good questions. |
Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 4:14pm
| Techno go to RZ Masks they have lots of info how to wear how to fit and answered questions...I printed it all off. |
Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 4:27pm
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Pinned this post. Not sure masks will help, but worth knowing. ------------- https://www.facebook.com/Avianflutalk |
Posted By: Newbie1A
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 4:27pm
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Not sure if this helps anyone for the fitting questions at least? I had to go google RZ mask as had no idea... Looking at their body weight as way to measure - I know it wouldn't work for me, I have a small hat/safety helmet size, so would think you might be better off doing the facial measurement? %20" rel="nofollow - https://rzmask.com/pages/sizing %20" rel="nofollow - https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=how+to+fit+an+rz+mask%3f&view=detail&mid=049DB51092A076F9E85E049DB51092A076F9E85E&FORM=VIRE %20" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZPDKdYj5Y I didn't see anything on removing safety etc - I'll try to search later tonight on protocals for 'general' equipment ? Ie you would likely take off an N95 with filter the same way as these???? ------------- If it's to be - it's up to me! |
Posted By: quietprepr
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 4:41pm
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I have given myself 2 choices. I have N95 masks and full face CBRN gas masks from MIRA Safety. I had been looking at them for some time but this put me over the edge. I will say the RZ masks look alot more comfortable. QP
------------- "Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival." - W. Edwards Deming |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 4:46pm
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Ive committed to valved FFP3 and researched both putting it on and taking it off safely. I have goggles to go with it. I still plan to get most of my protection by self isolation. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 5:08pm
| I wear glasses so a gas mask is not for me because of the cost of glasses for the mask. That is why I have gone now with three different types of N95 Masks. |
Posted By: BabyCat
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 5:41pm
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Not sure of RZ respirators, but have a small supply of surgical masks, N95 respirators, N100 and P100, and even beyond. One of the reasons I think health care workers in China are getting infected is their N95 masks are only about 93-96 percent efficient with the 125 nm coronavirus. Another reason is I believe poor protocols, eye transmission, clothing, skin, shoes, etc. I believe nCoV is aersoled as well as hardy on fomites (surfaces) |
Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 8:30pm
All of them. These are specialized masks meant only for professionals. Save your money. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/respirator-use-faq.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/respirator-use-faq.html
------------- CRS, DrPH |
Technophobe wrote:Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 11:31pm
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I understand the correct fitting of any mask in a quarantine area,
But poping to the shop for a few supplies, surely it's better to have a mask ? Rather than nothing, And as to my question Doc, Is it possible to extend the life of masks, by covering it with good quality cotton or silk,or a cheaper type of mask? Or are one use STRICTLY ONE USE? p.s. I use a mask most days, for my job, (non medical),I use N95 ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: BabyCat
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 11:44pm
| Carbon, I have done a bit of reading on masks (mostly with the data sheets and research 3M provides - they are an excellent resource if you look for them on their website. I'm sure they'll provide you with the answers you seek. There was even research posted about extended use of respirators, growth of bacteria and viruses, keeping clean, proper fit, handling, etc. with biohazards. One thing to be cautious about re-use is the growth of bacteria (especially with moist respiration) on the inside of a mask/respirator, which could potentially make one ill. There's a lot of mention of storage in cool, dry places, avoiding sunlight, etc. While some filters are designed for extended use (P100, for example), and about how filters even as the "get use" become better filters (blocking more particles), others are more single-use. |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: February 16 2020 at 11:47pm
------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 2:53am
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Well, the CDC FAQ was interesting. I learned two more things. Those pictures of staff with respirator marks left on their faces, were not necessarily due to the length of time they were worn for, but because THEY NEED TO BE REALLY TIGHT! "Check the seal." as the instruction goes on the videos, does not cover how tight said seal must be. The other thing was, valved is better (Unless you are doing surgery!) It is easier to breathe, the mask stays dry longer (vital!) and the protection for the wearer is as good. ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 3:17am
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This might help too. Sorry if it is annoyingly obvious! but it is necessary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05wyH1-mLGk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05wyH1-mLGk ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 3:17am
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Oh! and shave your beards, men! ------------- How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips or pen are moving. |
Posted By: Tabitha111
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 7:09am
One of the reasons (mainly the ONLY reason, except I am sure they want a clean cut look too) that men in the Navy aren't allowed to have beards is due to the gas masks not fitting properly. There are exceptions though, medical reasons that allow a beard and also for special forces, like the Seal Teams. Yes, I am retired Navy, did all those drills and donned gas masks all the time on the ship. |
Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 10:28am
| Told my son he would have to shave. He knew that but I made sure he remembered. |
Posted By: Glupa
Date Posted: February 17 2020 at 3:02pm
| Coincidentally, I was in pre-mourning yesterday for my beard of many decades. My wife consoled me and assured me that I’ll never have to shave it off. Silly but true and I hope she’s right for many reasons. |