What do you folks think about THESE cowards? 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/-we-needed-to-go-rich-americans-activate-pandemic-escape-plans?fbclid=IwAR3df5TlI73tomAGQXEbRq6u5woZ2nRoGRupm59yGBdNiVR76pt5z_k21aw - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/-we-needed-to-go-rich-americans-activate-pandemic-escape-plans?fbclid=IwAR3df5TlI73tomAGQXEbRq6u5woZ2nRoGRupm59yGBdNiVR76pt5z_k21aw

There are frequent articles in the papers here on the number of private jets arriving here and once Covid 19 started up, there was a massive increase in that traffic. NZ has always been seen as a lifeboat, and there are some amazing properties out here. And the place is always full of the rich and famous. I think there are more bolt holes here in the South Island than in the north island, as we are less populated.

I'm not sure i'd call them cowards. I think I'd call them lucky - if they can afford it and they can get a visa. The thing is that now they can't leave. Even if they could arrange their own transport out of here, they won't be allowed back in unless they are a citizen or a resident. And it takes 5 years to become a resident from the moment your visa is issued so that you can come and go. 

We're very fortunate to be so remotely placed on earth. You can't swim here, that's for certain. Right now we're in total lockdown and we have a week to go until we move to up to level 3 and ease our restrictions somewhat. Today we had 3 new cases. We have a total of about 320 active cases, have had 16 deaths and have 8 people in hospital, one of whom is in intensive care. I can see why people would want to be here.

KiwiMum wrote: I can see why people would want to be here.

Thanks, KiwiMum!  I'd love to visit, I'm one of the only Yanks you'll ever meet who has worked with your countrymen (Wool Research Oranisation of New Zealand in Christchurch).  

It seems cowardly to run off and hold up in a country that they have no investment in....if your nation needed their manpower for emergency services, would they volunteer?  I doubt it.   All they do is consume.....

Some folks have too much money, I hope they get stranded in paradise.  I'm working my butt off in the States to help reduce the global burden of SARS-CoV2, and I don't view these people as anything but parasites.  

CRS, DrPH wrote: Some folks have too much money, I hope they get stranded in paradise.  I'm working my butt off in the States to help reduce the global burden of SARS-CoV2, and I don't view these people as anything but parasites.

You should watch the part2 of video series I posted under the 'US knew in November" topic - ironic as the 'upper' just feel we are slaves to do their bidding and too many of us to be worth anything (just parasites)... that video is a kick butt eye opener for anyone who thinks this 'just happened'...

Newbie1A wrote: CRS, DrPH wrote: Some folks have too much money, I hope they get stranded in paradise.  I'm working my butt off in the States to help reduce the global burden of SARS-CoV2, and I don't view these people as anything but parasites.   You should watch the part2 of video series I posted under the 'US knew in November" topic - ironic as the 'upper' just feel we are slaves to do their bidding and too many of us to be worth anything (just parasites)... that video is a kick butt eye opener for anyone who thinks this 'just happened'...

I listened to it, and I should have commented in the thread, but since I didn't...He is wrong about a lot of the things he said in the video.  I know he claimed to be a doctor, but if he is, I think he is a rather poorly educated one.  He claimed there are only 3 airborn infections, and could only name 2.  At least he got tuberculosis ans Ebola right.  

If you are speaking as an expert, I think it really behooves you to know your subject matter.  He also claimed that viruses are not spread that way, and that paraphrasing "everybody knows viruses are spread by droplets."  That is factually incorrect.  Measles, chicken pox, mumps, and diphtheria are all viruses that are airborn to one degree or another.  The reason he may not have experience with those viruses he thinks are impossible? Vaccines.  But the fact he doesn't know,  yet claims all other virologists and frontline doctors are lying about it makes me question everything else he says.