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Topic: Significant increase of suicides noted
Posted By: AI
Subject: Significant increase of suicides noted
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 1:43pm

Doctors in Northern California say they have seen more deaths from suicide than they’ve seen from the coronavirus during the pandemic.


“The numbers are unprecedented,” Dr. Michael deBoisblanc of John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek, California,  https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-during-pandemic-death-by/6201962/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 123, 255) !important; text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; font-family: Montserrat, sans-serif !important; font-size: 1rem !important; - DeBoisblanc said he believes it’s time for California officials to end the stay-at-home order and let people back out into their communities.

"Personally, I think it's time," he said. "I think, originally, this was put in place to flatten the curve and to make sure hospitals have the resources to take care of COVID patients. We have the current resources to do that, and our other community health is suffering."

Kacey Hansen, a trauma center nurse at John Muir Medical Center for more than 30 years, says she’s worried not only about the increased suicide attempts but also about the hospital’s ability to save as many patients as usual.

"What I have seen recently, I have never seen before," Hansen said. "I have never seen so much intentional injury."

Businesses  https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-03/yuba-sutter-modoc-california-counties-defy-stay-home-allow-businesses-reopen" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 123, 255) !important; text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; font-family: Montserrat, sans-serif !important; font-size: 1rem !important; - - hundreds of protesters have hit the streets, making the argument that the orders were only meant to flatten the curve of the virus’s spread, which Newsom himself  https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/16/governor-newsom-curve-has-arguably-flattened-california-nears-900-covid-19-deaths/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 123, 255) !important; text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; font-family: Montserrat, sans-serif !important; font-size: 1rem !important; - Suicide has been an increasingly significant problem across the country as the coronavirus outbreak caused stay-at-home orders that led to unemployment and stress.

By late March,  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/suicides-outpacing-coronavirus-deaths-in-tennessee-data-says" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 123, 255) !important; text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; font-family: Montserrat, sans-serif !important; font-size: 1rem !important; - A study  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-deaths-suicides-drugs-alcohol-pandemic-75000/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 123, 255) !important; text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; font-family: Montserrat, sans-serif !important; font-size: 1rem !important; - Another  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/stress-from-virus-response-will-destroy-7-times-more-years-of-life-than-lockdowns-save-study" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 123, 255) !important; text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; font-family: Montserrat, sans-serif !important; font-size: 1rem !important; - Just Facts around the same time computed a broad array of scientific data showing that stress is one of the deadliest health hazards in the world and estimated that the coronavirus lockdowns will destroy 7 times as many years of human life than strict lockdowns can save.

Earlier this week, more than 600 doctors https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mass-casualty-incident-over-600-doctors-sign-letter-warning-trump-of-dangers-of-continued-lockdowns" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 123, 255) !important; text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; font-family: Montserrat, sans-serif !important; font-size: 1rem !important; - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-seen-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns?fbclid=IwAR2kxKdV6wgVyQMwZw5_DeyWddZw7wzhvmA7AqTWOPNBaUud1rkfQSqBIT8 - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-seen-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns?fbclid=IwAR2kxKdV6wgVyQMwZw5_DeyWddZw7wzhvmA7AqTWOPNBaUud1rkfQSqBIT8




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Posted By: BeachMama
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 6:26pm

Oh, this is tragic. My son has suffered acutely from anxiety during our quarantine (he has Asperger’s as well)... I can see how the isolation can affect people to this extent.  The question is, where is the line? How do we protect people’s mental health while safeguarding the general population’s physical health?  



Posted By: FluMom
Date Posted: May 22 2020 at 9:30pm

My thought on this is we have given hospitals time to get Vents in, PPE in and anything else they need when the second wave hits.  NY, Denver, and any other city that has a convention center set up to take Covid patients  better keep them up for the second wave.   To me this stay at home was time to get ready for the next wave.  We were not ready in March now we should be so we should be open with people social distancing, masks for who will wear masks, hand washing and old coot's like me staying at home.



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 23 2020 at 2:21am

[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/05/fewer-suicides-in-first-two-months-of-lockdown-police-figures-show/[/url] DJ-In NL the numbers may go up if the damage gets clear. (People losing jobs, bankruptcy etc). 

Suicide-in my opinion-is always tragic-losing hope. 



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