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Topic: LOOK AT THIS!
Posted By: Tabitha111
Subject: LOOK AT THIS!
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 11:25am

If these photos do not make you shudder...I dont know what will....yes, the cause is good...but...but....Today’s #BlackLivesMatter solidarity protest in Amsterdam. 



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'A man who does not think and plan long ahead will find trouble right at his door.'
--Confucius




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Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 11:40am

Something has changed, Tabitha.  Maybe pandemic driven, but something has definitely changed in the human consciousness ('scuse the airy fairy term).  This isn't going to just go away like all the other times.  



Posted By: Tabitha111
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 12:09pm

I am wondering if these photos are real? I mean we are in a pandemic and that many people are crowded together like this? Perhaps DutchJosh can comment and tell us if this is really happening there.

and by shudder...yes, I do understand the movement and support it...but all I can see when I look at these photos is coronavirus! Yikes!



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'A man who does not think and plan long ahead will find trouble right at his door.'
--Confucius



Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 12:59pm

I am seeing the same on our TV Tabitha.  Either ALL the press is lying, or this is real.



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 1:04pm

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/06/02/healthcare-staff-horrified-amsterdam-protest-154-covid-19-remain-icu[/url] DJ-I also had some links at "Netherlands" latest news. Police estimate 5000 people demonstrated, organization claimed 10.000-most with masks-but no social distancing. 

(For social distancing another square-Museumplein-would be better.)

[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/06/amsterdam-mayor-under-fire-for-not-intervening-at-anti-racism-demo/[/url]

DJ-The mayor claims she was surprised by that many people showing up. Not very realistic-a day earlier already 2400 people did say on a special facebook page they would come. On a webcam [url]https://live.webcam.nl/amsterdam/[/url] I could see the crowd grow. 

Other demonstrations were forbidden, anti-lockdown demonstrators got arrested....and this demonstration "could not be stopped"? (The mayor claims police violence would be needed to stop a demonstration against police violence.)

Today there were demonstration in The Hague and Groningen-for the NL-[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/06/02/thousands-attend-black-lives-matter-rallies-keeping-physical-distance[/url]..

[url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/06/rotterdam-mayor-limits-anti-racism-demonstration-to-80-people/[/url] The mayor of Rotterdam only allows 80 protesters in Rotterdam.



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: roni3470
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 3:38pm

Even if they had masks, I doubt they each had hand sanitizer to clean their hands, and more than half touched their faces or possibly could have it on their clothes and shoes.  Ugh.  I did see the article that Italy said they can no longer detect the disease....so maybe it is fizzling out....or maybe its stewing in someone like it did in 1918.  I can no longer tell which way this is going to go!



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NOW is the Season to Know

that Everything you Do

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Posted By: Newbie1A
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 4:04pm

DJ said: Other demonstrations were forbidden, anti-lockdown demonstrators got arrested....and this demonstration "could not be stopped"? (The mayor claims police violence would be needed to stop a demonstration against police violence.)

This lady says things fairly well... we're all being played (jmo)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQr8NG9XwDs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQr8NG9XwDs




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If it's to be - it's up to me!


Posted By: Tabitha111
Date Posted: June 02 2020 at 5:17pm

And...60,000 gathered in downtown Houston today! https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/government/2020/06/02/60000-gather-in-downtown-houston-june-2-in-solidarity-with-george-floyds-family/ - https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/government/2020/06/02/60000-gather-in-downtown-houston-june-2-in-solidarity-with-george-floyds-family/



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'A man who does not think and plan long ahead will find trouble right at his door.'
--Confucius



Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 12:12am

Coronavirus

Idiots 



Posted By: Newbie1A
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 9:00am

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/ontario-health-leaders-call-on-province-to-declare-anti-black-racism-public-health-crisis/ar-BB14XMxf?ocid=spartandhp - https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/ontario-health-leaders-call-on-province-to-declare-anti-black-racism-public-health-crisis/ar-BB14XMxf?ocid=spartandhp



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If it's to be - it's up to me!


Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 8:36pm

So this picture may not be far off in two weeks



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 03 2020 at 10:53pm

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/06/03/rotterdam-blm-protest-halted-thousands-show-erasmus-bridge[/url] and [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/06/rotterdam-anti-racism-demo-ends-early-as-too-many-people-turn-up/[/url] DJ-In Rotterdam the hoped they did learn from Amsterdam. They had two bridges and a north-and south-side of the Maas-river in the demonstration area-with room for moor. Still that was not enough space-people did not spread enough and more people came. So the mayor ended this demonstration (but if the virus was still spreading it did find a good place to do so....)



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 04 2020 at 1:33am

DJ-There will be a demonstration in my hometown arnhem this afternoon. Rain is expected-so maybe not that much people will show up. From their facebookpage; [url]https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=114539686949746&id=112790253791356[/url];

Dear people,

To be able to guarantee the safety of the protest at 17.00 h we would like to ask you the following:
- There is enough police to support a demonstration of 500 people. Do you feel uncomfortable with the physical demonstration, then please rather DON'T come and participate in our street chalking action instead. This is a low-key and risk-free way to show your solidarity on an individual level in your own neighborhood. --> https://www.facebook.com/events/281713242977033/?acontext=%7B%22source%22%3A108%2C%22action_history%22%3A%22%5B%7B%5C%22surface%5C%22%3A%5C%22post_page%5C%22%2C%5C%22mechanism%5C%22%3A%5C%22surface%5C%22%2C%5C%22extra_data%5C%22%3A%5B%5D%7D%5D%22%2C%22has_source%22%3Atrue%7D&source=108&action_history=%5B%7B%22surface%22%3A%22post_page%22%2C%22mechanism%22%3A%22surface%22%2C%22extra_data%22%3A%5B%5D%7D%5D&has_source=1&fref=mentions&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARCyWPeN__kO33f1IzsaOxVDvnVZHUWDsmEq6G8wpx2yXq43VliB_o29q4R7_EBoximtdcNSj2IFg2lCVOQZw0vYna9TrcqDQRVwET37Pd4l80AFV9AdN27vnrCPaC658Ks3b7sQEEOF8eUUEKtHPn1wHPrOg1gRv-daBLurGOYwhYmbVzeFnwj-vLf0G7wUVYh0FGnIUi82rc8eMOpGUhfIqPUY2997LyH0q1QOiwVICbt3pC9bBkNrDlU0qWdMtG1ASvu3A8f5Bx4fkPhw1wiNmKh-l4o6DnsDTKeN4ArL3kVUJRlSZWURtImk55vGfOO2iTg2VFl8_kJpBb-XKs0&__tn__=K-R" style="color: rgb(56, 88, 152); cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none; font-family: inherit; - https://www.facebook.com/events/281713242977033
- We strongly advice against traveling to the protest by people from outside Arnhem. If you live outside Arnhem, please rather participate in the chalking action as mentioned above, or join a protest in your own city. On the 5th of June similar protest will be held in Nijmegen and in Utrecht. For more locations of Black Lives Matter protests in the Netherlands, take a look at this link -->
https://tinylink.net/C0PFE
- Masks are obligatory during the protest! Those who don't wear a mask will be removed from the demonstration.
- During the demonstration please take place on the dots that the municipality marked on the ground of the Market square especially for this event. People that don't respect 1,5 meter distancing will be removed from the demonstration.

We are super glad to see that so many of you want to show your solidarity concerning the violence and racism towards black people. Stay strong, stay healthy!

Lots of love,

the organization team



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein



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