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Topic: Occupation in Seattle
Posted By: MamaBear4
Subject: Occupation in Seattle
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 8:25am

Surprised to see nothing on here about CHAZ. Or maybe I shouldn’t really be .  Seems to be blocked from most news sources.




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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 8:52am

It is the top item on the BBC's world news page....so it does not seem to be being blocked by good news sites.

That it has not appeared here, may be because this site is about pandemics and I did see a connection to Chav that was helpful to discuss.  [On the other hand if one attends a rally that Trump is planning and the organisers insist that people sign a waver over rights regarding corvid19 then there is a clear connection between the pandemic and a political event]



Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 1:13pm

An autonomous police force?  So much to say bout that.... but what could go wrong?  yeesh



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 3:55pm

Everyone needs to take a 

CHILL PILL.......

Covid loving it......



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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.đŸ––

Marcus Aurelius


Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 4:43pm

  http://107.161.23.124/~iprevert/r.php?nin_u=czovL3QuY28vQld6VXJWWVVWTQ%3D%3D&nin_b=1" style='font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 116, 158); text-decoration: none; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'>pic.twitter.com/BWzUrVYUVM


This is pretty funny, she is certainly adamant about the 6 feet and she's right about more than that.



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 12 2020 at 4:58pm

[Image: wphl8d.jpg]

So much for being "autonomous"    



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 13 2020 at 2:18pm

Imagine the rainy weather we are currently having in WA is putting a damper on their little occupation party. Most will give up and head back to the comfort of their parents basements. LOL



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 5:44pm

Seems some schoolin is happening in CHOP(formerly CHAZ) She tells it like it is.



Posted By: CRS, DrPH
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 8:17pm

Originally posted by EdwinSm, EdwinSm, wrote:

It is the top item on the BBC's world news page....so it does not seem to be being blocked by good news sites.

That it has not appeared here, may be because this site is about pandemics and I did see a connection to Chav that was helpful to discuss.  [On the other hand if one attends a rally that Trump is planning and the organisers insist that people sign a waver over rights regarding corvid19 then there is a clear connection between the pandemic and a political event]

I agree, ES, you were correct in leaving the CHAZ news off of AFT, unless this causes a spike in COVID-19 cases. 

I'd predict that most cases of COVID-19 amongst protesters would be from the following causes:

  1. Sharing joints 
  2. Swapping spit 
  3. Hooking up 
  4. Swapping more spit 
  5. Sharing more joints 

etc. etc.  



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CRS, DrPH


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 15 2020 at 9:51pm

Another reason to keep CHAZ from this forum is-please-keep this forum functioning. It is good members have different views-that keeps things interesting. On politics there are views, much less rights or wrongs-but choices. 

United we can keep this forum working, divided-by choice-repeating over and over-only one viewpoint does not make interesting reading. 

Please keep it polite, show respect etc.!




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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 16 2020 at 12:55am

Well said!



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 17 2020 at 8:45am




Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 21 2020 at 2:05pm




Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 21 2020 at 2:12pm

So a shooting in the Socialist Utopia that is CHAZ/CHOP leaves one in critical condition and one pushing up daises. 


1 dead, 1 critically injured after shooting in Seattle’s ‘CHOP’ zone, police say


One person was killed and another critically injured after a shooting in Seattle’s Capitol Hill protest zone early Saturday morning, authorities said.

The shooting happened at approximately 2:30 a.m. in CHOP — or “Capitol Hill Occupied Protest” zone — on 10th Avenue and East Pine Street, near Cal Anderson Park, police confirmed in a  https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2020/06/20/homicide-investigation-inside-protest-area/" style="color: rgb(0, 164, 226); text-decoration: none; - statement and via Twitter.

Around 10 a.m., Seattle Police released  https://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2020/06/20/homicide-investigation-inside-protest-area/" rel="noopener" style='color: rgb(0, 164, 226); text-decoration: none; font-family: Lato, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 20px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);'>new information  about the shooting, stating when officers arrived and tried to find the victim of the shooting, they were met by a violent crowd “that prevented officers safe access to the victims,” officials said.

https://q13fox.com/2020/06/20/1-dead-1-critically-injured-after-shooting-in-seattles-chop-zone-police-say/ - https://q13fox.com/2020/06/20/1-dead-1-critically-injured-after-shooting-in-seattles-chop-zone-police-say/




Posted By: BeachMama
Date Posted: June 21 2020 at 6:08pm

Originally posted by Dutch Josh Dutch Josh wrote:

Another reason to keep CHAZ from this forum is-please-keep this forum functioning. It is good members have different views-that keeps things interesting. On politics there are views, much less rights or wrongs-but choices. 

United we can keep this forum working, divided-by choice-repeating over and over-only one viewpoint does not make interesting reading. 

Please keep it polite, show respect etc.!


Wonderfully said. Thank you!   



Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 22 2020 at 2:33am

Does anyone object to my sticking this in politics?



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: June 22 2020 at 4:25am





Spring cleaning.....techno......




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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.đŸ––

Marcus Aurelius


Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: June 22 2020 at 6:13am

Just trying to pre-empt any backlash and keep the peace, Carbon.  Not what I want to do, just my job.  Sigh!



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 22 2020 at 12:31pm

Well second shooting in two days in CHAZ/CHOP. So one dead and two wounded in last 2 days, pretty violent for a peaceful protest.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/teenager-injured-at-seattles-chop-zone-in-second-shooting-over-weekend - https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/teenager-injured-at-seattles-chop-zone-in-second-shooting-over-weekend



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 23 2020 at 1:34pm

Well looks like the "summer of love" is over in Seattle. It only took one homicide and 2 others shot to end it and the mayor to come to her senses. Maybe they should have made Kevlar a requirement for entrance to the zone.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/seattl-protest-zone-dismantle-capitol-hill-occupied/ - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/seattl-protest-zone-dismantle-capitol-hill-occupied/



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 24 2020 at 10:08am

https://www.eutimes.net/2020/06/japanese-reporter-goes-to-chop-chaz-to-prove-how-cool-leftism-is-gets-beaten-within-minutes/" rel="bookmark" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 12px; vertical-align: baseline; background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; -

https://www.eutimes.net/2020/06/japanese-reporter-goes-to-chop-chaz-to-prove-how-cool-leftism-is-gets-beaten-within-minutes/" rel="bookmark" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 12px; vertical-align: baseline; background: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; - Japanese reporter goes to CHOP CHAZ to prove how Cool Leftism is, Gets Beaten within Minutes

A Japanese artist, activist and reporter went to Seattle to cover the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) and to show that the protest was non-violent. He left within 15 minutes having been severely beaten up.

Oogesa Taro, the organizer of a collaborative social art project called ‘Without Borders’, travelled to the US to explore the ongoing protests that erupted in the wake of the George Floyd killing by Minneapolis police.

Reporting from the ground within the CHAZ, it didn’t take long before Taro was set upon and beaten up by some of the area’s less welcoming residents.


https://www.eutimes.net/2020/06/japanese-reporter-goes-to-chop-chaz-to-prove-how-cool-leftism-is-gets-beaten-within-minutes/ - https://www.eutimes.net/2020/06/japanese-reporter-goes-to-chop-chaz-to-prove-how-cool-leftism-is-gets-beaten-within-minutes/



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 9:00am

Seattle businesses sue authorities over ‘perpetual block party’ inside Capitol Hill protest zone

About a dozen businesses and residents located around Seattle’s autonomous protest zone have sued authorities who “abandoned” the area to protests.

The lawsuit, submitted on Wednesday, argued that businesses in and around the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) had been “overrun” since Seattle authorities took the “unprecedented decision to abandon and close” the area.

“Rather, this lawsuit is about the constitutional and other legal rights of plaintiffs — businesses, employees, and residents in and around CHOP — which have been overrun”, said the lawsuit.

It added that the CHAZ had been “unchecked by the police, unserved by fire and emergency health services, and inaccessible to the public at large”.

The businesses also alleged that Seattle authorities “chose to actively endorse, enable and participate in the occupation” which has seen some businesses owners threatened and attacked.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-businesses-sue-authorities-over-074130031.html - https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-businesses-sue-authorities-over-074130031.html


Seattle Mayor Durkan needs to sack up and grow a pair and handle the situation.



Posted By: Penham
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 2:51pm

I can't believe they let it go this far and haven't done anything yet to stop this.



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 3:11pm

Well it's Seattle and as leftist as it gets, so feelings over law and order and common sense are a consistent theme there and has been for quite some time.  They should move their "summer of love" to the mayors and city councils houses and use their yards for the duration they would find them most accommodating I'm sure.



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 25 2020 at 5:28pm

Guess there was another shooting in CHAZ/CHOP on Tuesday, must be a tough love type of summer love with some bodily trauma involved.  And still no action by the gutless wonder of a mayor in Seattle.

Pretty interesting article about the zone from a reporter who infiltrated it for a 5 days to cover it. He has some inside details in the interview.


https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/06/24/andy-ngo-spent-5-days-in-chop-heres-what-he-saw/ - https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/06/24/andy-ngo-spent-5-days-in-chop-heres-what-he-saw/



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: June 29 2020 at 10:42am

SEATTLE — Two more people have been shot, one fatally, in the fourth shooting in 10 days within the boundaries of the free-protest zone set up near downtown Seattle amid a national wave of protests over police violence.

The latest shooting, at about 3 a.m. on Monday, has accelerated tensions over what happens next in the protest area, known as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest zone, or CHOP.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/seattle-protests-CHOP-CHAZ-autonomous-zone.html - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/seattle-protests-CHOP-CHAZ-autonomous-zone.html

Yep just a "summer of love" alright. Mayor Durkan and Governor Inslee need to pull their heads out of their 4th point of contact and handle the situation as it's quite clear this area presents a threat to public safety and that is what their job descriptions do include as part of their elected responsibilities, in fact it's job 1 for them.



Posted By: AI
Date Posted: July 01 2020 at 10:07am

Following "ongoing violence and public safety issues," Seattle's mayor has issued an executive order to clear  https://abcnews.go.com/US/inside-seattles-autonomous-zone-residents-enact-change/story?id=71295394" rel="nofollow noopener" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(45, 144, 255); text-decoration: none; - the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) zone -- a several block, autonomous police-free zone -- and Seattle police enforced the order Wednesday morning.

Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best said in a statement, "This order, and our police response, comes after weeks of violence in and around the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest zone, including four shootings, resulting in multiple injuries and the deaths of two teenagers."

"I support peaceful demonstrations," Best said, adding, "the CHOP has become lawless and brutal. Four shootings -- two fatal -- robberies, assaults, violence and countless property crimes have occurred in this several block area."

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/seattle-police-clear-chop-zone-arrests-mayors-executive-124601033--abc-news-topstories.html - https://www.yahoo.com/gma/seattle-police-clear-chop-zone-arrests-mayors-executive-124601033--abc-news-topstories.html

Looks like the "summer of love" is over.




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