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Topic: Long Covid
Posted By: carbon20
Subject: Long Covid
Date Posted: October 12 2020 at 3:33am

The Straits Times: 'Long Covid' makes the pandemic even scarier, Opinion News & Top Stories.

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/long-covid-makes-the-pandemic-even-scarier - https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/long-covid-makes-the-pandemic-even-scarier



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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 12 2020 at 3:47am

The Guardian: Long Covid: the evidence of lingering heart damage.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/04/long-covid-the-evidence-of-lingering-heart-damage - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/04/long-covid-the-evidence-of-lingering-heart-damage



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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

Marcus Aurelius


Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: October 12 2020 at 8:01am

Facebook has a Coronavirus Survivor Corps group, where long-haulers tell their stories.  Recommended reading for those who think Covid is no big deal.



Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 15 2020 at 1:30am

BBC News - Coronavirus: 'Long Covid could be four different syndromes'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54540544 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54540544



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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

Marcus Aurelius


Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: October 15 2020 at 3:27am

My summary of the important parts

Originally posted by "BBC" "BBC" wrote:

....the review found recurring symptoms affecting everything from breathing, the brain, the heart and cardiovascular system to the kidneys, the gut, the liver and the skin. 

These symptoms may be due to four different syndromes:

  • permanent organ damage to the lungs and heart
  • post-intensive-care syndrome
  • post-viral fatigue syndrome
  • continuing Covid-19 symptoms

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Report author Dr Elaine Maxwell said she had assumed those who had been seriously ill with Covid-19 would be affected the most and those at low risk of death were also at low risk of living with its long-term effects.

But the review found this was not the case.



Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: October 15 2020 at 6:23am

Thanks to a couple of dozen idiotic leaders of countries (mine among them) and a few countries too poor to help themselves (which us rich countries just leave to stew)  I think this disease is going to become globally endemic.

I think it will shorten predicted lifespans as a result.  It does not have to happen even now, but hopes and chances of arresting it are vanishingly rare here in the west.




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Posted By: BeachMama
Date Posted: October 15 2020 at 1:05pm

Technophobe, interesting you should say that.  I also think that we have likely tipped beyond the point of being able to beat back this virus — I think it’s going to become endemic, as well. However, I wonder if we could be in store for more significant mutations than we see with, for example, seasonal flu. While the flu virus has been around in its current form for a while, SARS-2-COV is still what I think of as a “baby” virus...and inherently more unstable and more likely to undergo more frequent and more significant mutations. This could lead to a greater impact on people who catch it.

However, I am absolutely NOT a doctor or virologist, and don’t even play one on TV! I could be completely off. It’s enough to keep me on my toes, though, and to keep me thinking what I should be doing for my family.

I always appreciate your posts! Do you have a background in the medical field? 



Posted By: Technophobe
Date Posted: October 15 2020 at 1:17pm

No, just an interest.  (To the extent doctors keep asking me the same question, or where I studied.)  I do have some small epidemiological qualifications, but nothing major.  Enough to say I understand what the real experts are saying - or occasionally deliberately avoiding saying.

You are right, although it is not particularily likely and frankly, I don't want to think about it.  Coronaviruses do mutate often, but I believe flu is even faster and more frequent at changing its 'coat'.

What it really comes down to (and you are right again) is this is a new virus.  We don't know what it will do next - or after that - or after that - or........



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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving.


Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: October 15 2020 at 1:23pm

Can you imagine what will happen if we can't get a vaccine for this virus,and you can be reinfected with it time after time as with the common cold,which is a coronavirus,

Hospitals at capacity forever !!!!

OK for now medical insurance companies are covering you at the moment I believe,but how long will that continue....??

Wish I wasn't a lateral thinker.....

Oh Feck.....we in deep s..t

Stay safe all  😷😉






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Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

Marcus Aurelius



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