J& J vaccine halt , problem for the world.....
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Topic: J& J vaccine halt , problem for the world.....
Posted By: carbon20
Subject: J& J vaccine halt , problem for the world.....
Date Posted: April 14 2021 at 4:24pm
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NPR: Johnson & Johnson Halt Isn't Just A U.S. Problem. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/04/14/986840713/j-j-halt-isnt-just-a-u-s-problem?ft=nprml&f=1001 - https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/04/14/986840713/j-j-halt-isnt-just-a-u-s-problem?ft=nprml&f=1001 ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
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Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: April 14 2021 at 4:27pm
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Just looking at who the blood clots affect...... usually women ?..... Could the contraceptive pill have anything to do with the blood clotting, i seem to remember that when the pill first came out there was a problem with blood clotting in older ladies... Just asking ....... Take care all 😷😉 ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 14 2021 at 10:30pm
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carbon20-the main reason why J&J vaccines give clotting problems in women is that most HCW-ers are female... Older ladies may not need contraceptives...but it is a good point though. Could there be an interaction between "the pill" and vaccines ? Worth a study ! ------------- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein |
Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: April 14 2021 at 10:56pm
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The risks of blood clots seem to be related to age, with those in their 20s having about 10 times the risk of over 65s (data was shown on the tv news so no links). I would be willing to get the AstraZeneca vaccine, as I am in a low risk group for it. |
Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: April 15 2021 at 8:21am
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The speculation so far is that the difference is hormonal, with a prejudice also toward current and firmer smokers and birth control users. ------------- I am the DZ Queen, and I approve this message. |
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: April 15 2021 at 1:47pm
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Presumably that would also include menopausal women on hormone replacement therapy too. ------------- Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. |
ViQueen24 wrote:Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: April 15 2021 at 3:48pm
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Presumably that would also include menopausal women on hormone replacement therapy too. [/QUOTE] Good point KM..... ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: April 15 2021 at 3:58pm
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DW (English): COVID: Is there a link between vector vaccines and thrombosis?. https://dw.com/p/3s3pc?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews - https://dw.com/p/3s3pc?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: April 15 2021 at 4:00pm
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DW (English): Blood clot risk higher for COVID than vaccines — Oxford. https://dw.com/p/3s3cV?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews - https://dw.com/p/3s3cV?maca=en-gk-volltext-newsstand-topstories-en-10709-xml-googlenews ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: April 15 2021 at 5:13pm
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Maybe, but all six women were between 18-48. I think it's related to estrogen/progesterone in some way, or the women smoked and/or used birth control. The women were referred to as "childbearing age", so I don't think they were menopausal yet. ------------- I am the DZ Queen, and I approve this message. |
Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: April 23 2021 at 5:35am
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That confirms to me what I thought from the beginning: This is a hormonal thing. All the women were in the "fertile" stage of life. The pill or IUD may be the factor. If so then progesterone would be the bad hat. |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: April 23 2021 at 5:47am
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Wouldn't the answer be ,take some aspirin before you get jab...? Sorry if that's a bit simplistic.... Take care all 😷😉 ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: ViQueen24
Date Posted: April 24 2021 at 9:01am
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I believe these are specialized brain blood clots, not sure if that would work or not. ------------- I am the DZ Queen, and I approve this message. |
Posted By: WitchMisspelled
Date Posted: April 24 2021 at 3:46pm
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ViQueen is right, the specific kind of clot that happens in the brain can't be resolved by blood thinners. Very treatable if caught early, but not with blood thinners. |
Posted By: carbon20
Date Posted: April 24 2021 at 4:28pm
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Thank you ladies ,👍 ------------- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖 Marcus Aurelius |
Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: April 24 2021 at 10:45pm
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Use has been restarted... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56865562 - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56865562 There are at least 10 million doses ready to go (imported from Europe - maybe that partly explains the politics of the delay). |