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Excess deaths and G7

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Topic: Excess deaths and G7
Posted By: EdwinSm,
Subject: Excess deaths and G7
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 7:26am

According to Worldometers the UK has a higher death rate from Covid19 than USA, but when Excess Deaths are taken into account the USA is much worse.    

As this pandemic has gone on I am leaning more and more to Excess Deaths as being the best measure of the effect of the pandemic (this is not to play down Long Covid which I think will have significant impact over time, but I am not sure how that will be measured).


For the G7 countries:


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57421886 - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57421886




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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 8:48am

Translating it to [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table ; 

US has 184,3 deaths per 100,000 reported as Covid death (excess=227

UK 187,4, (e=181 ?)

Italy 210, (e=180 ?)

France ,168,5 (e=125)

Germany 107,3, (e=92)

Canada 67,9 , (e=92 )

Japan  11, (e=47)

Makes me wonder wich numbers to trust...proberbly related with the timing. Worldometers-data from yesterday, excess deaths per march 1 or so ? 



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Posted By: EdwinSm,
Date Posted: June 10 2021 at 10:17pm

Josh, well pointed out.   I am not at all sure on how I would account the differences, especially as the BBC reports I remember have the UK 'excess deaths' quite a bit higher than official corvid deaths, but on that report they are close together,    

I think part of the answer is in how the health systems have coped with other illnesses, but this is complex (and far above the amount of data that I have) needing to balance fewer road accidents or heart attacks verses the reduced/delayed treatment for cancer.


But at least the differences are not orders of magnitude out (like it is in most of Eastern Europe/Central Asia).




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