Smallpox in Yemen ???
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Topic: Smallpox in Yemen ???
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: Smallpox in Yemen ???
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 1:50am
From Hal Turner behind paywall; https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/subscribers-only-covert-intel-smallpox-outbreak-confirmed" itemprop="url" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(27, 27, 27); text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; transition: color 400ms ease 0s, background-color 400ms ease 0s; - SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - COVERT INTEL - SMALLPOX OUTBREAK CONFIRMED DJ YouTube [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VuXKY_gEwE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VuXKY_gEwE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VuXKY_gEwE claiming 12 cases so far in Yemen...(linking it to Bill Gates, stolen samples-bio terror ?) [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox ; By the end of 1975, smallpox persisted only in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_of_Africa" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Horn of Africa - Horn of Africa . Conditions were very difficult in Ethiopia and Somalia, where there were few roads. Civil war, famine, and refugees made the task even more difficult. An intensive surveillance and containment and vaccination program was undertaken in these countries in early and mid-1977, under the direction of Australian microbiologist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Fenner" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Frank Fenner - Frank Fenner . As the campaign neared its goal, Fenner and his team played an important role in verifying eradication. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#cite_note-115" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [115] The last naturally occurring case of indigenous smallpox (Variola minor) was diagnosed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Maow_Maalin" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Ali Maow Maalin - Ali Maow Maalin , a hospital cook in Merca, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Somalia - Somalia , on 26 October 1977. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#cite_note-PinkBook-30" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [30] The last naturally occurring case of the more deadly Variola major had been detected in October 1975 in a three-year-old https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Bangladesh - Bangladeshi girl, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahima_Banu" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Rahima Banu - Rahima Banu . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#cite_note-PrestonNY-36" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [36] The global eradication of smallpox was certified, based on intense verification activities, by a commission of eminent scientists on 9 December 1979 and subsequently endorsed by the World Health Assembly on 8 May 1980. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#cite_note-WHO2007Fact-10" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#cite_note-Fenner_2006-116" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [116] The first two sentences of the resolution read: Having considered the development and results of the global program on smallpox eradication initiated by WHO in 1958 and intensified since 1967 … Declares solemnly that the world and its peoples have won freedom from smallpox, which was a most devastating disease sweeping in epidemic form through many countries since earliest time, leaving death, blindness and disfigurement in its wake and which only a decade ago was rampant in Africa, Asia and South America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox#cite_note-Pennington-117" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [117]
DJ, Could it be smallpox somehow survived (maybe in a non-human host)-just "waiting for a chance"? If there is any value of these stories we may learn fast enough... [url]https://www.healthmap.org/en/[/url] or https://www.healthmap.org/en/ - https://www.healthmap.org/en/ also Flutrackers do not mention it...[url]https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/middle-east/yemen/[/url] or https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/middle-east/yemen/ - https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/middle-east/yemen/ no mention of it... DJ-If it would show up it may be in a country like Yemen..[url]https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-stories/story/yemen-war-escalates-msf-cares-displaced-people-marib#p1[/url] or https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-stories/story/yemen-war-escalates-msf-cares-displaced-people-marib#p1 - https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-stories/story/yemen-war-escalates-msf-cares-displaced-people-marib#p1 .total permanent crisis...only where would the variola-virus have come from ? So lots of questions...but possible-and if there is some basic value in the very limited reporting so far it is very alarming.
------------- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 8:44am
now without paywall [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/subscribers-only-covert-intel-smallpox-outbreak-confirmed[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/subscribers-only-covert-intel-smallpox-outbreak-confirmed - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/subscribers-only-covert-intel-smallpox-outbreak-confirmed ; This article is now UNLOCKED as it was previously for SUBSCRIBERS ONLY so they could get a heads-up before the general public. Since this news is now being reported by Newspapers in Yemen and in the Arab world, I unlocked this story. An "outbreak" of Smallpox is now CONFIRMED to be taking place in the Middle East, within the country of Yemen. It began in November 2021, just a little over two months ago and a lid was clamped down so tight on it that I only started getting info about it now. It took awhile for blood from the first victim, an infant, to be safely transported to a qualified lab, tested, then re-tested, and kept oh-so-very-quiet by Yemen (and Saudi Arabian) authorities when the results came back positive. Nobody wanted this information to get out. Now, there are MORE confirmed cases. Quite a bit more. It can't be kept secret anymore. DJ-Looking for other sources, further info.... Maybe related [url]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.18.21266111v2[/url] or https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.18.21266111v2 - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.18.21266111v2 ; As viral infections may activate human endogenous retroviral elements (HERV), we studied the effect of SARS-CoV-2 on HERV-W and HERV-K envelope (ENV) expression, known to be involved in immunological and neurological pathogenesis of human diseases. Our results have showed that the exposure to SARS-CoV-2 virus activates early HERV-W and K transcription but only HERV-W ENV protein expression, in an infection- and ACE2-independent way within peripheral blood mononuclear cell cultures from one-third of healthy donors. Moreover, HERV-W ENV protein was significantly increased in serum and plasma of COVID-19 patients, correlating with its expression in CD3+ lymphocytes and with disease severity. Finally, HERV-W ENV was found expressed in post-mortem tissues of lungs, heart, brain olfactory bulb and nasal mucosa from acute COVID-19 patients in cell-types relevant for COVID-19-associated pathogenesis within affected organs, but different from those expressing of SARS-CoV-2 antigens. https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam" style="cursor: pointer; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 1; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; max-width: 100%; outline-style: none; - Human DNA has remnants of ancient viral infections called Human Endogenous Retroviruses(HERV) New study: COVID activates HERV-W in immune T-Cells & microglial brain cells, and is found in blood serum and plasma. HERV-W expression is correlated to MS. 1/ DJ No doubt more info will show up....(could CoViD restart old virus hidden in the body, including smallpox ???) ------------- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 12:14pm
Great find DJ. This is HUGE news. Wow. Smallpox is an absolute killer. I read the article you posted through very carefully and the following section really leapt out at me: The Punchline The punchline to this is simple: A whole slew of people all over the world, recently took the COVID vaccines. One of the known side-effects of taking that vaccine is a sharp and prolonged reduction in CD-8 T-Cells; the first line defenses in the human body, to kill off invading viruses. Some people have seen an 81% REDUCTION in their CD-8 cells after being vax'd. What do you think will happen if actual Smallpox hits such people? With their frontline immune system defenses dulled by up to 81%, will they stand any chance at all of surviving Smallpox? Or would the disease simply take them over like wildfire and wipe them out? Oh, and no one would ever even question what killed them; they'd be covered in sores and pustules. It would be clear: Smallpox killed them. The people who set it all up . . . walk away scot-free because nobody will bother asking how a disease that was CERTIFIED as ERADICATED 40 some odd years ago, and hasn't been seen anywhere on the planet in more than 40 years, suddenly popped back up. And nobody will connect the dots that the Smallpox "outbreak" was done on purpose, and it wiped out 2/3rds of humanity --- but only because those 2/3rds were set up to die by a COVID vaccine. Humanity gets culled and no one is the wiser. Gee, how convenient. End of quote from article.
Isn't that interesting? I've certainly read numerous reports about dormant viruses in the system re=emerging after a Covid shot. One of my own cousins developed a very bad case of shingles within a week of his second Covid shot. Frankly, if this information about smallpox is true, then there will be many more cases than the few officially recognised in Yemen. A country with little or no health care and poor sanitation. I was born in a very impoverished area with slum conditions and so, as a small baby, I was vaccinated against smallpox. I'm probably one of the youngest people around with a smallpox vaccination card. I dread to think what will happen if this spreads globally. I can only hope that governments act more quickly to stop international travel than they did with Covid. Just think of what could have been avoided in Jan 2020 if planes had been grounded......
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 1:23pm
KiwiMum, linking Yemen with vaccines is "phantasy"...vaccinationlevel for Yemen will be as good as 0%... There may be a disease that has similarities with smallpox in Yemen...we simply need to get much more info ! If there is such a disease spreading could there be an animal link ? Much to early but to major to ignore ....
------------- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 3:51pm
If smallpox was in an animal host then it must be a very remote location (as in a long way from human beings) for it not to have reemerged since the 1970s. If I were going to purposely release a killer disease I would do it in a country like Yemen, where the lifestyle for most is very primitive. It would give it a chance to spread and become endemic before the rest of the world detected it. I'm keeping my eyes open for more reports of it, but haven't seen anything yet.
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Posted By: Usk
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 6:35pm
Your articles are fake news!!! The pictures on the Hal Turner site are from 20 years ago if you bother to run a tag search on them. He is making it all up!’n
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: February 09 2022 at 9:34pm
Usk, I think you may be correct...If any smallpox would be showing up in Yemen I would expect to be able to find more on it...certainly since Yemen is in a warzone and a party in the conflict would use that info against other fighting groups... For that matter the Hal Turner story (he is copying from elsewhere, he is not that original...) is more anti-vax, anti Bill Gates... I keep an eye on the story-but for now I only can increase the ??????? [url]https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/long-view-how-covid-19-world-can-learn-last-person-get-smallpox[/url] or https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/long-view-how-covid-19-world-can-learn-last-person-get-smallpox - https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/long-view-how-covid-19-world-can-learn-last-person-get-smallpox Also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox ; During the 20th century, it is estimated that smallpox was responsible for 300–500 million deaths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox#cite_note-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox#cite_note-6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox#cite_note-7" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [7] In the early 1950s an estimated 50 million cases of smallpox occurred in the world each year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox#cite_note-WHO_Factsheet-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [8] As recently as 1967, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="World Health Organization - World Health Organization estimated that 15 million people contracted the disease and that two million died in that year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox#cite_note-WHO_Factsheet-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [8] After successful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Vaccination - vaccination campaigns throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, the WHO certified the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eradication_of_infectious_diseases" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Eradication of infectious diseases - global eradication of smallpox in December 1979. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox#cite_note-WHO_Factsheet-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [8] Smallpox is one of two https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_disease" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Infectious disease - infectious diseases to have been eradicated, the other being https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderpest" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Rinderpest - rinderpest , which was declared eradicated in 2011 DJ, Smallpox is a vaccine successtory, for that reason may be (mis)used by some anti-vax groups...I wanted to find out if there were timegaps between waves...In the 20th century it looks like "no"...so no cases did mean-after years-no cases... CoViD could restart older virus-reactions (as old software getting restarted) but you would then expect most cases to show up in older patients...Yemen may have been without smallpox for over 50 years...people do not get old in Yemen...so even that route is "not very likely"...Import from Somalia...there are no reports from Somalia on snallpox... So, most likely fake news...
------------- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. ~Albert Einstein
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 7:38am
Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: February 10 2022 at 11:56am
That's a relief!!!
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