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Topic: NUCLEAR WAR
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: NUCLEAR WAR
Date Posted: April 25 2022 at 9:37pm

DJ, 

I am not a military expert, I am NOT neutral, this is only my opinion-hope to be very wrong !

The biden-war against Russia has to go nuclear. I blame biden for the full 100% for that. 

Background/links;

The US did send 1/3 of its anti-tank weapons already to Ukraine...a same amount of the US strategic oil reserves is send/on its way to Europe-with limited new influx to replace it.

Based on Ukraine "info" (propaganda) NATO keeps sending weapons, energy and now increasing also trainers to Ukraine. Ukraine is using some weapons-meant for a week-in a single day...The US does not have enough basic materials to replace that kind of weapons. 

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The "west" has invested allready so much in this war the only acceptable outcome for that "west" is not just a "weakened" Russia but regime-change in Moscow. 

However it looks like both sanctions and the Ukraine-war (Russian invasion when Ukraine started shelling eastern Ukraine-killing again ethnic Russians-with NATO help) are not enough to reach that western/biden goal. 

Increasingly also attacks on oil depots etc inside Russia (UK-SAS-style) do happen. So far not doing much damage-still a risk for Russia.

The west is getting more and more involved in the war inside Ukraine, from training Ukraine soldiers on NATO soil to sending more and more (also modern) weapons/intel.

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NATO expansionism does not stop. Sweden, Finland may ask NATO-membership next month. 

China does see NATO as a risk for its New Silk Road/EurAsian market plans, both China and Iran expect they will be next if biden succeeds in regime change in Moscow. 

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Further western escalation of the war did result in Russia now destroying east-west infrastructure in Ukraine, further destruction of airfields/storage. 

A lot of western supplies do not reach the frontlines in the east of Ukraine. 

The only way to change that is further western escalation-wich will bring a Russian reaction. 

End of part 1




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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 25 2022 at 10:03pm

A.o. [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-former-ukraine-ambassador-slips-admits-putin-wouldnt-have-invaded-under-trump[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-former-ukraine-ambassador-slips-admits-putin-wouldnt-have-invaded-under-trump - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-former-ukraine-ambassador-slips-admits-putin-wouldnt-have-invaded-under-trump DJ-The general sense is trump was tired of NATO anyway-much more willing to compromise with Russia/respect Russian safety concerns...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-04-24/americas-proxy-war-russia-what-could-go-wrong[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-04-24/americas-proxy-war-russia-what-could-go-wrong - https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-04-24/americas-proxy-war-russia-what-could-go-wrong The US supported "rebels" in Syria-resulting in IS almost taking over both Syria and Iraq-to get a Sunni-US alliance increasing US control of energy towards Europe. When Russia intervened the US/NATO did supply IS and other "moderate terrorists" with weapons. (Article also mentions the outcome of US intervention in the 70's in Afghanistan-to fight the pro-Soviet Union regime there; "Al Qaeda is on our site"...both IS and al qaeda still active-both with also Uyghurs from western China. IS was fighting in Ukraine. The US/NATO is supporting jihadi-ism in central Asia to fight Russia-Iran-China.

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-railway-hits-us-war-aims-ops-report.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-railway-hits-us-war-aims-ops-report.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-railway-hits-us-war-aims-ops-report.html  

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-04-25/us-dollar-defaults-petro-dollar-and-ru-banking-obligations[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-04-25/us-dollar-defaults-petro-dollar-and-ru-banking-obligations - https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-04-25/us-dollar-defaults-petro-dollar-and-ru-banking-obligations DJ-I am not a financial expert but do not doubt "we are on a financial global Titanic" - our global economy based on fiat-currencies is not a house built on melting ice-but a mega city built on melting ice...

[url]http://thesaker.is/the-moskva-riddle/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/the-moskva-riddle/ - http://thesaker.is/the-moskva-riddle/ Most likely the west itself is allready fighting Russia...NATO forces attacking Russian targets ..

[url]https://southfront.org/bucha-investigation-contradicts-itself-confirms-afus-atrocities/[/url] or https://southfront.org/bucha-investigation-contradicts-itself-confirms-afus-atrocities/ - https://southfront.org/bucha-investigation-contradicts-itself-confirms-afus-atrocities/ Some in the west blamed Putin for trump winning the US elections, blamed Putin for the UK Brexit, MH17, if Le Pen had won the French elections; "blame Putin"....Now some Le Pen supporters in France claim she did not win because of the US.....

DJ-We are allready in an almost total war....with the pandemic-in yet another wave, and climate change both very major unsolved problems...

History learns the #1 country often will do all it can to stay #1. Wars do change the "top-position"...Spain, NL, France, Germany, UK all once were dominant or tried to become a #1-resulting in global wars. (World War one and two are just names; the first global war may go back to the 16th century with Europe moving into Asia, Africa the America's). 

Russia-China try to overtake the #1 position from the US. In a nuclear age it would be "more then welcome" if such a change could be made without a total, global war...because we can NOT survive such a war !



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 25 2022 at 10:48pm

part 3,

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYl5lbGvNs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYl5lbGvNs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYl5lbGvNs ;Political and economic problems plague collective west The Duran: Episode 1265 #Biden #Germany #EU #TheDuran

and [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN5FBFe8iso[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN5FBFe8iso - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN5FBFe8iso FULL INTERVIEW: Kharkov is being defended by Nazis, says Scott Ritter... what next for Ukraine? George Galloway/Scott Ritter

DJ, There are many ways this Ukraine war further may escalate-and it will not be the only US-Russia frontline. Syria and Iraq are also US-Russia frontlines. Growing frustation in China. North Korea may see other frontlines showing up. Pakistan-after US regime change against Imran Khan-may become a question mark. In Latin America there are lots of potential frontlines. 

There are some basic ideas however;

-A lot of European countries now buy extra Russian energy to have enough in stock for the winter 2022/2023, in the hope to be able to replace buying Russian energy end of this year. Since energy prices went up-OPEC did not increase production; China and India buy Russian energy at "friendly prices" de facto for 2022 the Russian economy may be one of the few worldwide still growing...Ruble-backed by energy and gold increasing in value (as a hard currency). 

Certainly most of the EU is moving towards recession/economic depression; Asia getting much lower energy costs and still able to get other natural resources...The pandemic is doing great damage to China, will harm India, Russia as well-but the US now is in another wave...Europe will see more cases soon. Africa is moving towards another major crisis (BA.4, Ebola in the DRC).

-For the west this Ukraine war is taking much longer then they expected. Sanctions were supposed to stop-if not end-Russia. The economic price is going up each day, sending military goods to Ukraine-less and less reaching the frontlines also is not effective...

-By going for the west/pushed towards the west the UN, Israel are no longer in a position to mediate. China, India are pushed towards Russia-since they do not go for anti-Russian sanctions...(Turkey going its own way-trying to be "friends" with both Russia and Ukraine-but by now seeing there is no point in further negotiations if "the west" want regime change in Moscow...)

-The EU leadership followed the US (and UK) and is not able to pull out any longer (Le Pen in France could have made some difference...but maybe in the wrong way...). You can not push your country towards hyperinflation (that is where we are going) and anti-Russia hysteria (eventhough the idea of regime change in Moscow is a US idea...) and stop it admitting "sorry I was very wrong"...

-Russia (more and more backed by several Asian countries, China, Iran most) will not give up its security concerns-NATO moving towards Russian borders is unacceptable. (And not only for Russia !)

How will it escalate further ? 

-One idea is Poland getting involved-sending in its military into Ukraine. Russia may accept "limited Polish presence" in the west of Ukraine for some time...but Russia does know it is a next step in the escalation...

-An all out NATO intervention into Ukraine will bring high speed escalation. A battle over control of Ukraine airspace (with Russia now using missiles against targets in western Ukraine) is open war between Russia and NATO...

-Covert action-special forces (maybe inside Russia) being caught (there are allready lots of westeners killed/catched by Russia in Ukraine-NATO losses will be 100+ military, most of them Polish). So far Russia did call it "mercenaries" not see it as part of a NATO attack...

-Again; another major frontline is Syria/Iraq...US forces in NE Syria/Iraq "not in the best position" in case of a further escalation. (Iran is a factor as well-Israel is allready fighting Iran on a limited scale...).

Maybe the major point is that an open war between NATO and Russia ;

-Will see other conflicts escalate (Middle East, South China Sea/East Asia)

-May bring one-or both-of the "parties" running out of conventional means..

-DJ-If avoiding an open war does not bring the wanted goal (US-Regime change in Moscow, Russia keeping NATO away from its borders) and conventional war has both parties with exhausted supplies the nuclear option-most likely as a first major strike-may soon be discussed. 

-The S-550 has the potential to destroy western satellites; unable western warfare. The west may be able to "give major blows" to Russia without going nuclear..Problem is "major blows" (destroying major Russian infrastructure via ICBM's) may not "do the job"...

-Lots of other countries also have nuclear weapons...UK/bojo is mad enough, Israel could go nuclear against Iran, North Korea may want to show it can destroy US bases...

End of part 3



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 25 2022 at 11:02pm

part 4;

The main reason I write this is the hope to avoid a nuclear war.  

We must realize we are moving towards a nuclear global end of live high speed at the moment...if we do not want that we have to stop that !

Since "neutral parties" where pushed/put in camps "if you are not with us you are against us" they may not be in a position to end this escalation. India is-for now-not seen as being in a position to get the US and Russia talking...Turkey tried, the Vatican seems to be still in conflict with the Orthodox church...

So far both the US and Russia are not willing to give in...(The US did stop even seeing most Russian diplomats since february 24...biden wants war..not talks). 

We-the citizens-may be a decisive factor. However propaganda did unable-for now-public larger scale actions. If you question the wisdom of the war you are called "pro-Russia". If you warn for nuclear war "alarmist"..."we are winning"....(Russians are monsters...not that far away from calling them "sub-humans"...). 

Sanity, science, good arguments, did not stop climate collapse or this pandemic...most people do not want to know we are moving high speed to massive destruction...

"The system" is out of control and bound to crash....high speed...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 12:00am

I really think it looks like it'll go nuclear. Biden seems to be itching to join in and so does Boris in the UK. It's more than worrying!



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 12:36am

KiwiMum thanks for your comment; I was wondering if I "was going crazy"; the only one realizing wich way we are going...

[url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-2-radio-transmitters-destroyed-as-result-of-explosions[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-2-radio-transmitters-destroyed-as-result-of-explosions - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-2-radio-transmitters-destroyed-as-result-of-explosions ;2 radio transmitters destroyed as result of explosions near Mayak village in Transnistria

DJ AM mentioned Moldova transporting oil/diesel into Ukriane via rail; [url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-odesa-odeska-oblast0917-red-alert-aeg[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-odesa-odeska-oblast0917-red-alert-aeg - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-odesa-odeska-oblast0917-red-alert-aeg ; Odesa, Odeska Oblast(09:17). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

DJ, As a reminder; the former Soviet Union member states use a different width in its railways...so western trains can not be used on eastern European railways...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/covert-intel-american-battlefield-comms-fall-into-russian-hands-inside-ukraine[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/covert-intel-american-battlefield-comms-fall-into-russian-hands-inside-ukraine - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/covert-intel-american-battlefield-comms-fall-into-russian-hands-inside-ukraine is behind paywall, Pepe Escobar/thesaker on the destruction of the Moskva, 

[url]https://southfront.org/russian-advance-in-advance-heavy-losses-of-ukrainian-armed-forces-in-donbas-photos-videos-21/[/url] or https://southfront.org/russian-advance-in-advance-heavy-losses-of-ukrainian-armed-forces-in-donbas-photos-videos-21/ - https://southfront.org/russian-advance-in-advance-heavy-losses-of-ukrainian-armed-forces-in-donbas-photos-videos-21/ DJ-Awfull pictures of war...Still "the west" rather believes propaganda from its Kiev puppets then face reality...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZclwm65BhE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZclwm65BhE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZclwm65BhE Alexander Mercouris in a short update; Bojo knows Ukraine has no chance...

I try to keep updates...

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-april-20th-30th-reports.16310/page-7[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-april-20th-30th-reports.16310/page-7 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-april-20th-30th-reports.16310/page-7 link to ;


DJ [url]https://www.debka.com/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/ - https://www.debka.com/ stopped updates since a few weeks...

link to [url]https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-emotion-overcome-west-response[/url] or https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-emotion-overcome-west-response - https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-emotion-overcome-west-response  

DJ-It would be welcome to try to "limit propaganda"-(and certainly insults !) is there still a moderator able to delete "unfitting posts"?



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 3:01am

On Moldova becoming pulled into the war; 

ZradaXXII

@ZradaXXII
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#Ukraine and #Romania plan joint aggression against #Transnistria (Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic) late April-early May. Romanian military disguised as Moldovan military are training in camps in Romania and arrive in #Moldova in large numbers. Details: https://t.me/ZradaXXII/1959

DJ the reported attacks [url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-2-radio-transmitters-destroyed-as-result-of-explosions[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-2-radio-transmitters-destroyed-as-result-of-explosions - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-2-radio-transmitters-destroyed-as-result-of-explosions are part of a restart of [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria_War   ?

 World War 3 might start over a trivial sliver of land—Transnistria—between western Ukraine and eastern Moldova. It is an ethnic Russian enclave, and the rumors from Igor “Strelkov” Girkin is that Romanian and Ukrainian armed forces are planning on seizing it.

I don't think that's the big deal—the issue would be if those Romanian fighters cross over into Ukraine, potentially to help AFU defend Odessa from capture by the Russians. THIS is a scenario whereby a direct NATO vs. Russia war might break out.

DJ West of Romania is Serbia-that may choose the side of Russia...

Americans don't even remember last week's Big Thing. Russians think historically—but Americans live in a chaotic Now, without context to the past, or thought about the future.

This may be a major problem...not only in international contacts, also in the pandemic...DJ-Without going for stereotypes, generalization; for a lot of people in the US the US is "the world"...

Hal Turner earlier mentioned a high rank US military person died in Mariupol...Russia most likely will NOT believe for a moment that many NATO military are "former military" being in Ukraine because the voluntary wanted to join Ukraine against Russia...

DJ, history repeating itself over and over...NApoleon, NAzi's now NAto showing unable to learn a thing from the past...just crazy ! 

There are "stories" of Polish/NATO forces (build-up) in Romania. Poland itself may be preparing to "join the war". Over 100.000 US military allready in "western Europe"...

Should I mention the difference between "tactical" battlefield nuclear weapons and strategic-most long distance nuclear weapons ? Russia having hypersonic long distance missiles able to fly-via the South pole-to the US that fast the US may be unable to react ? 

Should I mention using "nukes as a warning" -do not cross this line is now no longer an option ? 

A full scale NATO attack on Russia will start-most likely-an ALL OUT nuclear war !

One party not giving the other a chance for a "first strike"....If I had my own "doomsday clock" it would be 5-10 seconds before midnight...

Further escalation of the war in Ukraine may see Ukraine "losses" going up from "hundreds per day" to "many thousends per day"....with Ukranian forces simply having not enough defenses against an increase of air attacks...they are "sitting ducks"...Russia could kill them...so far only did make a choice not to do so...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 5:38am

DJ, The level of insanity has no limits...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynu-RkPUDF0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynu-RkPUDF0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynu-RkPUDF0 ; Alex Christoforou;Blinken, Russian economy in shambles. Putin, inflation slowing down. Russian tree canceled. Update 1

 A Russian oak-tree was banned from a European tree-competition-a Polish tree did win -because "Poland stands for freedom"...how much more crazy can it get ? 

Ukraine "parliament" the rada demands NATO will welcome Ukraine...

US claiming Russia is losing the war (that is why more weapons for Ukraine are needed) also Russian economy close to collapse...[url]https://asiatimes.com/2022/04/eurasian-firms-see-russia-sanctions-as-big-biz-chance/[/url] or https://asiatimes.com/2022/04/eurasian-firms-see-russia-sanctions-as-big-biz-chance/ - https://asiatimes.com/2022/04/eurasian-firms-see-russia-sanctions-as-big-biz-chance/ ;

As sanctions have their intended effect – getting companies from the US and allied countries to leave Russia – there’s also an unintended effect as competitors from countries led by India, Turkey and China pick up the slack.

Despite the bad news, Russians can justify harboring hope based on the actions of some countries that do not support the sanctions and are increasing their involvement in Russia’s economy.

Anecdotal evidence for this includes such hints of ambiguity as a rhetorical question from US national public radio network NPR (April 13, 2022): The West is hammering Russia with sanctions. But, do they work?

DJ [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-recap-of-the-war-in-ukraine-by-gonzalo-lira.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-recap-of-the-war-in-ukraine-by-gonzalo-lira.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/a-recap-of-the-war-in-ukraine-by-gonzalo-lira.html In the first phase of the war Russia had hopes of talks bringing results....But "the west" wanted escalations, did steel Russian deposits in western banks worth over 300 billion $...

So if talks are pointless then go for natural resources in the east of Ukraine and take over the strategic Black Sea coast...

[url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/25/russia-fm-lavrov-warns-of-real-danger-world-war-iii-liveblog[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/25/russia-fm-lavrov-warns-of-real-danger-world-war-iii-liveblog - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/25/russia-fm-lavrov-warns-of-real-danger-world-war-iii-liveblog in the Russian perspective this is a US/NATO - Russia total war....

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-april-20th-30th-reports.16310/page-7[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-april-20th-30th-reports.16310/page-7 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-april-20th-30th-reports.16310/page-7  

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/russia-moldavia.16335/page-3[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/russia-moldavia.16335/page-3 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/russia-moldavia.16335/page-3  

may also have info/updates..

[url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-russian-missile-strike-hit-bridge-over-dniester[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-russian-missile-strike-hit-bridge-over-dniester - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/26-april-russian-missile-strike-hit-bridge-over-dniester in between Odessa and Moldova/Romania. DJ-Possibly trying to limit NATO moving in from Romania by destroying the main infrastructure...

[url]https://tass.com/defense/1442759[/url] or https://tass.com/defense/1442759 - https://tass.com/defense/1442759 ;

MOSCOW, April 25. /TASS/. Russia’s advanced S-400 medium-to-long-range surface-to-air missile system engineered by the Almaz-Antey defense manufacturer can evoke the interest of military specialists from Saudi Arabia by its high performance characteristics, Company CEO Yan Novikov said on Monday.

"We expect Saudi Arabia to make an objective choice after assessing high qualities of this anti-aircraft missile system [S-400] and other items that we make," the chief executive said in an interview with the  https://oborona.ru/" rel="nofollow" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; line-height: 1em; text-decoration: underline rgb(12, 73, 205); - National Defense magazine on the occasion of the company’s 20th anniversary.

DJ, The west is blind...in a tunnelvision...

[url]https://tass.com/world/1442445[/url] or https://tass.com/world/1442445 - https://tass.com/world/1442445 ; 

Turkey considers the presence of landlocked countries’ warships, especially those of NATO, in the Black Sea basin during the Ukrainian crisis, in terms of regional balances, inappropriate, the Hurriyet newspaper reported on Monday, quoting Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar.

"We want to ensure that the principle of regional ownership is not violated, that the relevant rights of coastal countries are not violated. If balances are tilted here, there is a high probability of events spiraling out of control. We don't want to plunge the Black Sea into an atmosphere of competition," Akar told the newspaper.

DJ Ideas of NATO increasing activity from Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey (and Georgia ???) against Russia in the Black Sea are stopped by Turkey out of fear for being pulled into a (two front-south is Syria) war...Nevertheless most likely US (and UK) may push for such an escalation...

[url]https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/9510[/url] or https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/9510 - https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/9510 ; The closure of Turkey’s air space to all Russian aircraft has not come as a surprise to Moscow, which is aware that Ankara and Washington are involved in a new dalliance and that there is a full spectrum calibration of Turkish regional policies under way.

DJ, So Russia now has to get supplies to Russian military in Syria and Iraq via Iran....Turkey has a chance to deal with the Kurds...(and the US position in Iraq and Syria gets even more impossible...). 

In general-from Romania-bordering in the east to Moldova and Ukraine-in the west to (pro-Russia) Serbia to Turkey/Syria/Iran further escalation may be on its way...

NATO moving into Ukraine may face infrastructure limiting its movements over land...Another major risk could be north; Poland ending up fighting Belarus/Russia...(in what would be supposed a surprise attack...)...DJ-NATO SF (Special Forces) most likely allready in limited numbers in western Russia ????

There seem to be "no brakes" stopping the insanity...the rest of the world may be watching in horror...unwilling to give in for more sanctions on Russia (western demands in India...) but trying to stay out of the fighting...making their own plans/setting their own goals... 



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: A-I
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 12:05pm



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"Facts don't care about your feelings" I'M A UNVAXXED DEVIL so kiss my rebel ass.


Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 2:04pm

Originally posted by A-I A-I wrote:


Ha ha ha ha.  



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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.


Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 2:09pm

Josh I really think things are getting bad. I was listening to two comedians on a political satire show on the BBC and they were saying how 72% of voting age adults thought that Putin should be taught a lesson (by the rest of the world getting involved in the war) regardless of the cost. As they said, does no one realise what a nuclear war will do to the world? There'll be no winners. I'm not surprised billionaires the world over are scrambling to get bunkers built. There's a huge bunker complex in the mountains near me. I don't know exactly where it is but I know someone who worked on their off grid system. I don't know whose bunker it is but if they are American (as so many of them are over here) they'll be pleased to learn that NZ has opened it's borders again.



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Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.


Posted By: A-I
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 4:29pm

Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:

Originally posted by A-I A-I wrote:


Ha ha ha ha.  

Sad fact is it's really not funny. Biden should be forced to undergo a MoCa test to determine his mental fitness as CIC with nuclear launch authority. Clearly he's not all there.

President Biden has negative approval ratings in 40 states including key midterm battlegrounds, according to an analysis, losing ground with Democrats, young voters and independents, and looking as befuddled as ever.

The president is underwater by double digits in 33 states, including some that were key to his 2020 victory such as Arizona, Pennsylvania and Georgia, in the Morning Consult Political Intelligence quarterly tracking report released Tuesday.


Mr. Biden’s job approval ratings are higher than his disapproval ratings in only 10 states and the District of Columbia. He is barely above water in his home state of Delaware.

The report was released after a fresh series of public gaffes and confused moments by the 79-year-old president. Surveys show that voters are increasingly expressing doubts about Mr. Biden’s mental fitness for office and rating him as a weak leader.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/26/joe-bidens-approval-slumps-coast-coast-concerns-ri/ - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/26/joe-bidens-approval-slumps-coast-coast-concerns-ri/



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 10:08pm

DJ, 

On biden....

Disclose.tv

@disclosetv
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JUST IN - Biden had $5.2 million in unexplained income, an analysis of the president's financial records shows. https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10728521/Financial-records-reveal-Joe-Biden-5-2million-unexplained-income.html

from 

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may explain why this ..... is pushing the world towards nuclear war....Both main US "political parties" are in fact white collar crime gangs...corrupt to the bones...

Another point should be what powers a "president" has. I think biden may have a bit more power in the US then Putin has in Russia..at least in formal rules & practice. But that is something specialist may have a better view of...The French president also has a powerfull position, the German president de facto almost ceremonial...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pentagon-blasts-russias-nuclear-war-rhetoric-charge-proxy-war-dangerous[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pentagon-blasts-russias-nuclear-war-rhetoric-charge-proxy-war-dangerous - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pentagon-blasts-russias-nuclear-war-rhetoric-charge-proxy-war-dangerous ;

Kirby said further according to https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/russia-warns-serious-nuclear-war-risks-should-not-be-underestimated-2022-04-25/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Reuters , “A nuclear war cannot be won and it shouldn’t be fought. There’s no reason for the current conflict in Ukraine to get to that level at all.”

Interestingly, it seems the Russian side would agree, and appeared to dabble in rhetoric of nuclear warnings as a way to stave off such a nuclear-armed showdown. But ominously, it seems both sides also agree they are inching toward this almost unimaginable scenario. 

DJ, "western denialism"; living with climate collapse, living with the virus, the insane idea of starting a war with Russia-de facto Asia but still claiming "risks of nuclear conflict should be kept out of the discussion" (because there would be NO public support for that criminal insanity !). 

Alexander Mercouris/AM [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhSr9_lj2U[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhSr9_lj2U - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhSr9_lj2U ;Ukraine War Expanding to Moldova as Ukraine's Donbass Commanders Complain of 'Desperate Situatio News Topic 478

DJ; The Ukraine idea seems to be that by attacking targets in [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/allow-me-to-introduce-transnistria-it-s-a-place-you-ll-be-hearing-a-lot-about-shortly[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/allow-me-to-introduce-transnistria-it-s-a-place-you-ll-be-hearing-a-lot-about-shortly - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/allow-me-to-introduce-transnistria-it-s-a-place-you-ll-be-hearing-a-lot-about-shortly the Kiev puppet-regime would get NATO moving into western Ukraine....

RUMORS (unconfirmed at the publication of this story) say Romanian Troops have entered Moldova, and been given Moldova Military uniforms to pose as Moldova troops.  Romania is now a member of NATO.  

DJ, Romania did fight the Soviet Union, joined the nazi's...Moldova was part of the price they had to pay...So far Moldova tried to stay out of the conflict-but it may seek NATO protection...wich could turn out to be a wrong choice...because NATO could use Moldova as a basis for fighting Russia...

End of part 1



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 10:28pm

part 2, 

From the Hal Turner link; 

Over the past few days, there have been a series of explosions in Transnistria.  Russian soldiers there are on a war footing now, Moldova is also on a war footing.  

There is a gigantic arsenal of Russian military weapons stored in Transnistra; weapons that Ukraine would like to get their hands on now that Russia has smashed most of Ukraine's military.

Those weapons supplies would vastly improve Ukraine's ability to defend Odessa from the approaching Russian Army.

A critical bridge was taken out last night with a missile attack, cutting off a supply route from Moldova to Odessa, Ukraine.  A train full of gasoline tankers crossing that bridge was destroyed.

DJ; Denialism seems to be the basic western strategy...Not only denial of the risks for nuclear war...also closing their eyes for a spread of the conflict. 

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/04/26/dutch-officers-critical-plan-supply-ukraine-armored-howitzers[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/04/26/dutch-officers-critical-plan-supply-ukraine-armored-howitzers - https://nltimes.nl/2022/04/26/dutch-officers-critical-plan-supply-ukraine-armored-howitzers ; 

The Netherlands' decision to supply armored howitzers to Ukraine together with Germany to help the country fight the Russian invaders could have consequences for the deployability of the Dutch armed forces, Niels van Woensel, chairman of the Dutch Officers Association (NOV), said after reports in De Telegraaf. 

An armored howitzer is the army's strongest artillery weapon, capable of hitting targets 40 to 50 kilometers away. The Netherlands has 54 of these, about half of which are in use. It is not yet known how many howitzers the Netherlands intends to supply. The plan is still under discussion, and Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren has not yet made a final decision.


The Netherlands has been supplying Ukraine with weapons for some time but is now considering sending weapons that the Netherlands itself uses for the first time. Van Woensel calls this a strange choice. "The armed forces cannot properly perform the tasks it has at present, for example, main task 1: protecting its own territory and that of allies. We know that we've had a shortage for years, and we must ensure that this is quickly rectified."

Additional armored howitzers can be deployed to strengthen the land forces. According to Van Woensel, if some of these weapons are sent to Ukraine it could cause problems in the long run. "We don't need all of the 29 howitzers in storage right now, but it is important for our own deployability that we have them in stock."

DJ Lots of sources by now warn "the west" is sending that much military hardware to Ukraine the west may be running out of major defense capacity...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-warns-nuclear-world-war-3-risks-now-considerable[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-warns-nuclear-world-war-3-risks-now-considerable - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-warns-nuclear-world-war-3-risks-now-considerable ;

Over the weekend, photos emerged of foreign troops (NATO) already deployed inside Ukraine and fighting the Russians!

Below, a British Sniper Team is shown in Ukraine:

Below, French troops from the 13th Parachute Dragoon Regiment, which is part of the Special Operations Forces, were deployed to Ukraine. The group includes instructors on the use of MILAN anti-tank systems and AT-4 grenade launchers:

While NATO countries may be claiming they are only sending in advisers or training troops, it is clear that ground forces from NATO countries are already inside Ukraine.  This appears, on its face, to be DeFacto war; exactly what Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov commented about above.

 Meanwhile, inside Russia, near the Ukraine border, acts of war are being covertly committed.   Below, video shows fuel storage tanks in Bryansk, Russia, being blown up by small explosives:

Other acts of war through sabotage, are also being committed.   Below, a "mine" is shown having been placed on Russian railroad tracks.  Such mines detonate when a train rolls over them, destroying tracks and derailing and damaging trains:

It is not likely that Ukrainian troops are perpetrating such acts as they do not have the manpower or expertise to engage in such covert activities.  NATO countries, however, do have such abilities.  

While NATO troops are now clearly visible in Ukraine, very new, even "Black Project" NATO weapons are also appearing inside Ukraine.

Previously unknown Western military aid to Ukraine is being unveiled - it appears that Germany delivered pretty rare PARM DM22 HEAT off-route anti-tank mines, which can strike enemy vehicles with fin stabilized rockets up 100 meters away:

In addition, The US Dept. of Defense (DoD) and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)  are fast tracking more black project weapons like the Phoenix Ghost to assist Ukraine.

The Phoenix Ghost tactical drone, a never-before revealed system designed by the US Air Force, will now prove its mettle on the battlefields of Ukraine.

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israeli-troops-arrive-in-ukraine-to-fight-russia[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israeli-troops-arrive-in-ukraine-to-fight-russia - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/israeli-troops-arrive-in-ukraine-to-fight-russia  

DJ; My impression: Ukraine may not have been an "official" NATO member-like Israel it was integrated in NATO/US defense. Lots of indications of NATO military both in Ukraine and Russia...

There will be a "secret/covert war" (AM hinting at a Putin speech where Putin claimed the CIA was killing journalists investigating Ukraine (& biden ?) corruption...):

-Preparing for further attacks/escalation of the war

-Recognition of possible future targets (including western targets; infrastructure/ports-both in Europe and the America's)

-Diplomacy; trying to find out positions of various countries. (Israel had "private instructors"-"former" IDF in Ukraine, Turkey is a NATO member but does not want a NATO-Russia seabattle in the Black Sea. Iran more and more developing into an ally for both Russia and Syria-fits the Iran goals...limits what Israel can do...). 

End of part 2



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 11:19pm

part 3, International escalation;

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ivr9bznFY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ivr9bznFY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9ivr9bznFY ; WION-India;U.S. has not ruled out military action in Solomon Islands if China builds a military base in the archipelago. Australia's Defence Minister has said that the country should prepare for war. Palki Sharma Upadhyay brings you a report.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6x3lhCeM9U[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6x3lhCeM9U - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6x3lhCeM9U ; A US commission on religious freedoms is asking the State Department to list India as a 'country of particular concern'. The commission is also seeking targeted sanctions on India. But the 100-page report makes no mention of rising hate crimes in the US. Palki Sharma Upadhyay tells you more.

DJ; US/NATO insanity is moving towards war (of NATO/AUKUS Australia-UK-US) with China...growing "tensions" with India...(wich is also doing a lot of trade with Iran...)

[url]https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-syria-on-april-26-2022-map-update/[/url] or https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-syria-on-april-26-2022-map-update/ - https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-syria-on-april-26-2022-map-update/  

A global picture;

-The insane west is sending weapons to be destroyed in Ukraine in such large numbers that their own armies now may face major shortages...from munition to artillery...

-That same insane west did cut itself of from Russian energy supplies without real replacements...strategic US-oil 1/3 of it send to Europe...

-Since insanity does not stop there the west thinking of sanctions on India, making threats on China

-[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/04/26/681060/Iran-JCPOA-agreement-Vienna[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/04/26/681060/Iran-JCPOA-agreement-Vienna - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/04/26/681060/Iran-JCPOA-agreement-Vienna Iran-deal=off

I did not hear much about [url]https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2022/03/10/biden-announces-major-non-nato-ally-status-for-colombia/[/url] or https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2022/03/10/biden-announces-major-non-nato-ally-status-for-colombia/ - https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2022/03/10/biden-announces-major-non-nato-ally-status-for-colombia/ also Brazil joining NATO was discussed...

Some things first grew very large before they explode...NATO expansionism as a final stage ? NOT bringing peace and security ! In fact used as a US tool against the growing influence of China...

DJ-I think the Middle East may be the major risk for further escalation. The US tried to kick out Assad-by supporting "IS bringing democrazy"....Russia stopped that-with Iran aid. 

OPEC/main country most likely Saudi Arabia is slowly switching sides; willing to sell oil to China for Yuan-payments.  Russia may be involved in railway-construction-possibly weapons-deal with Russia. In general-in the Arab world-as in most of the rest of the non-western world-the US/west is seen as a lot of empty words...breaking all agreements they make...Afghanistan was a major disaster, but also "the west" did lose the wars in Iraq, Syria...

Turkey-still NATO-would love to be able to have good relations with both Russia, Ukraine, Iran, Arab world...In many ways Turkish interests are shifting more and more to the east. Turkey-Iran-Pakistan (TIP) cooperation part of that...(with the US-coup against Imran Khan as very unwelcome-but not surprising-intervention). 

Turkey has a major problem with the Kurds. Both the US and Israel use the Kurds against Assad in Syria, against Iran. The "Syrian SDF-Kurds" most are PKK-"Turkish" Kurds...(looking at history the Soviet Union may have had more interests in a Kurdistan then NATO ever had...NATO was part of an almost genocide-war against the Kurds...not only in Turkey, but also in Iraq and "Persia"...)

Russia/Syria have been discussing including Kurds as part of the Syrian Arab Army. A question is what price are countries willing to pay for the Kurds to become an ally....A possible solution could be "STIP" Syria-Turkey-Iran/Iraq-Pakistan cooperation...with "Kurdistan" having some basic autonomy inside such a cooperation...

Price for that would be Turkey switching over to the Russian/Iran side. US kicked out of Syria, Iraq AND Turkey...The US may not like that but not in a position to stop that...

-Both Russia and China want to "break" the "US defense line" Japan-Taiwan form. The Solomon Islands-China deal is part of that process. One part of it could be seeking better relations with South Korea-opening up Asian markets (wich may give India, TIP a role).

The other part may "involve Taiwan"...(and maybe some Japanese Islands...Okinawa is strategic-blocking China...)..Taiwan "plans" may see China, Russia trying to get the Philipines, Indonesia, Malaysia  (PIM) change of position. The US coup in Pakistan, AUKUS threats over the Solomon-Islands, US sanctions on India may "see PIM move"...

Russia and China may not need military action against Taiwan to "get a better grip" on Taiwan..."improving relations" with the Bejing final goal being Taiwan willing to accept some Bejing-China (PRC) military presence but avoiding war...in return-like South Korea-getting access to the Asia markets...

DJ-I see the US as the main global aggressor...the US wants military bases, China wants "investments" that they "need to defend"....

Russia-Iran-China cooperation may be able to "beat" NATO....NATO is now wasting military hardware, energy, money on such a level it is destroying itself...

End of part 3



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 26 2022 at 11:54pm

part 4, "the west"

DJ, biden reminds me of the "very old men" leading the Soviet Union in its last years-before Gorbatschow showed up...Their leadership of the "politburo" as the end of a career-most of the Soviet leaders were "old and sick" [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Chernenko[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Chernenko - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Chernenko , [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Andropov[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Andropov - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Andropov ..before him you had [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev and [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev#Health_problems[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev#Health_problems - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev#Health_problems  

Biden tries to "look younger"...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi only 82...

I think leading a country is a hard job ! You need to be in "good shape" to do such a job for a longer term...most older people-in my opinion-may overestimate themselves...I do not want to exclude "the old" but maybe "limit" the duration of them staying in such a position ? 

Most of the European "leaders", even Putin, is (much) younger (Putin is 69-will turn 70 this october). 

The "west" has "neo-liberalism" as the main doctrine in some form..."market trade", "freedom (of trade they mean !)" is the basic idea...However, besides the climate and pandemic/health problems a main product of that ideology is a few get very rich at the costs of most others (and often via tax-money ending up in party-sponsors; legal corruption.)

Of course "the western elite/media" deny the problem..."what they do is legal-because they make it legal...they make the law..."

Before "neo-liberalism" a more "social-democratic" balancing between public and private interests was the norm...somehow vanishing the way the Soviet Union vanished...in the 90's. 

-In the past -1776/1789 may be the major reminder- unbalances resulted in "revolutions" (US/France). We are now moving towards a political/economical system in collapse...

If the job of politicians is to look to the future-give some direction-I wonder how the present politicians in the west think of that job...Busy fighting eachother, trying to get the best jobs AFTER their political carreer is NOT in the public interest !

Creating all kind of (international) organizations-In my idea to create jobs for themselves-is insane...

Polarization, internal conflicts, are part of the proces but will not bring a solution...only other dominant groups/ideas...most likely much more authoritarian...

The lack of political discussion in most of the west on this global, total war is shocking ! Did "democracy" end when Russia invaded Ukraine ????

Again-insanity rules !!! And there is a very high price for that !

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DJ, J.Magnier (Belgian ?) also claims there is a US-Iran deal ? [url]https://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-says-iran-a-few-weeks-or-less-from-bomb-breakout/[/url] or https://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-says-iran-a-few-weeks-or-less-from-bomb-breakout/ - https://www.timesofisrael.com/white-house-says-iran-a-few-weeks-or-less-from-bomb-breakout/ ;

‘It definitely worries us’: US blames Trump administration for Iran’s nuclear development, urges diplomatic solution, as talks remain stalled

looks more like US/Israel may plan to start a "military intervention" against Iran ? 

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DJ, A new reality ? The price "the west" now has to pay...and if there is no change in politics the price will go up much more...

Final part...have to end non-mainstream news somewhere...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 27 2022 at 6:17am

DJ,

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Maybe to early to completely agree with this view...but Ukraine using per day on what the US did mean it could use per week, Ukraine infrastructure being destroyed and sanctions not effective the US may need to review its strategy.

US democrats face a major political crisis in the US...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqtQq7s1y4Q[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqtQq7s1y4Q - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqtQq7s1y4Q The Duran on French elections...both the left and right hate Macron...but fail to unite against him. The present political elite managing to describe right wing opposition as  "fascist" while it is the elite itself that is part of/working for that elite..

Macron wants the EU to stop buying Russian energy to weaken Germany (France has lots of nuclear plants) so France (=Macron) can dominate the EU. France also the only nuclear armed EU member...For Macron the Ukraine war is only a tool for getting more (European) power...

Another idea is Eastern Europe did get a dominant position in the EU-and is anti Russian...

For the US high energy prices and inflation is an increasing problem...so the US needs to win in the short term or de-escalate...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/four-european-gas-buyers-fold-russian-demands-pay-gas-rubles[/url] or  https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/four-european-gas-buyers-fold-russian-demands-pay-gas-rubles - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/four-european-gas-buyers-fold-russian-demands-pay-gas-rubles



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 27 2022 at 11:01pm

DJ,

Some news on the results of the US keeping the Ukraine-fighting Russia-war going;

-[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/iran-china-declare-deepened-military-cooperation-confront-us-unilateralism[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/iran-china-declare-deepened-military-cooperation-confront-us-unilateralism - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/iran-china-declare-deepened-military-cooperation-confront-us-unilateralism ; 

The anti-West axis appears to be growing on the peripheries of the Ukraine conflict as Washington is perceived as giving an unbending 'with us or against us' ultimatum. Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi hailed deepening strategic and military cooperation between the Islamic Republic and China on Wednesday.

According state media cited in https://news.yahoo.com/iran-seeks-expand-military-cooperation-132628038.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - U.S. unilateralism as talks to revive Tehran’s nuclear deal with world powers have stalled."

DJ; In the recent past Russia was allowed to use Iran air bases for the Syria war-most likely this will expand to more cooperation. Both Russia and China showed interest in using Iran naval facilities. RIC (Russia-Iran-China) do have joined naval excercises-also this could further expand.

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/stinger-missile-production-hit-delays-raytheon-ceo-warns[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/military/stinger-missile-production-hit-delays-raytheon-ceo-warns - https://www.zerohedge.com/military/stinger-missile-production-hit-delays-raytheon-ceo-warns ; 

Robert Spingarn from Melius Research asked Raytheon CEO Greg Hayes: "Will the Army replace the current 1,400 stingers that were sent to Ukraine?"

Hayes replied Raytheon is "currently producing stingers for an international customer, but we have a very limited stock of material for stinger production." 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/politico-germany-approves-tank-sales-to-ukraine-bowing-to-pressure.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/politico-germany-approves-tank-sales-to-ukraine-bowing-to-pressure.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/politico-germany-approves-tank-sales-to-ukraine-bowing-to-pressure.html ;

It is a short range (5 km / 3 miles) anti-air system on a tank chassis useful against helicopters, drones and low flying planes.

That Scholz decided to offer these, instead of real tanks or armored infantry carriers as the U.S. and the camouflage-Green party demanded, is a nice way out. It guarantees that the Ukrainians will not be able to use them before the war is over.

The Gepard system with its two 35mm cannons is more than 50 years old but has been upgraded two or three times. The Germany army retired their last one of these in 2010. They have since been held in storage.

DJ-You need over a year training to use them...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russian-army-bombs-airport-hangar-storing-west-supplied-weapons-for-ukraine[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russian-army-bombs-airport-hangar-storing-west-supplied-weapons-for-ukraine - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russian-army-bombs-airport-hangar-storing-west-supplied-weapons-for-ukraine ; 

Russian missiles have struck an arms depot housing weapons from the United States and European countries donated to Ukraine.

The Russian defense ministry said its Kaliber missiles destroyed hangars in the Zaporizhzhia region of Ukraine which contained "a large batch of foreign weapons and ammunition supplied to Ukrainian troops by the United States and European countries".

DJ; It is getting harder to get supplies to the Ukraine frontlines...(Corruption is also still a major problem-there are some reports of Ukraine Army military selling those weapons to militia/Russians/criminals...)

[url]https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20220427-turkiye-expanding-russia-payment-system-to-assist-tourists-says-minister/[/url] or  https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20220427-turkiye-expanding-russia-payment-system-to-assist-tourists-says-minister/ - https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20220427-turkiye-expanding-russia-payment-system-to-assist-tourists-says-minister/ DJ; Turkey has a lot of Russian-and Chinese-tourists...The Russian and Chinese alternatives for international payments are growing fast and may replace the western ones soon in many countries (in Asia, Africa, Latin America).

So-how is this war going for the west ? Sanctions seem to damage the west harder, in a military sense Russia is winning...[url]https://ejmagnier.com/2022/04/27/%ef%bf%bcno-wwiii-is-expected-and-the-us-wants-to-end-the-war-while-victorious/[/url] or https://ejmagnier.com/2022/04/27/%ef%bf%bcno-wwiii-is-expected-and-the-us-wants-to-end-the-war-while-victorious/ - https://ejmagnier.com/2022/04/27/%ef%bf%bcno-wwiii-is-expected-and-the-us-wants-to-end-the-war-while-victorious/ ;

Nevertheless, Russian President Vladimir Putin showed a capacity to accept heavy losses and altered his initial plan with more achievable objectives to control Donbas and the south of Ukraine. If Russia manages to achieve its goals, Ukraine will have no more extended access to the Azov and the Black Sea, and when Donbas falls, it will lose a third of its land territory.

Therefore, unless there is a significant NATO direct intervention, the risk of a nuclear war is still out of reach. The West is aware of Russia’s missile capability and its possession of the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons. This is why the west is walking on the edge with Russia, studying the powers of the Russian forces in Ukraine, the type of weapons used and providing the Ukrainian army with adequate weapons that make the Russian victory very costly but inevitable. 

The West is trying to persuade Russia indirectly to stop the war so Ukraine can claim victory following the failure of the Russian first phase of attack and beat Russia in propaganda and mainstream media. The Western harsh economic and financial sanctions are not intended to stop the war or change the course of the battle but to impoverish Russia and Europe, which are both significantly suffering from the consequences of its sanctions with worse to come.

DJ [url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/27-april-authorities-in-breakaway-transnistria-region-of[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/27-april-authorities-in-breakaway-transnistria-region-of - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/27-april-authorities-in-breakaway-transnistria-region-of ;Moldova blaming Ukraine for explosions near Kolbasna village

Ukraine goal was to pull Moldova/Romania into the war...it failed. 

In short;

-The west is running out of supplies to keep the war going

-US "democrats" fear hyperinflation and other economic damage will cost them the november midterm elections 

-Most of Europe did not even want this-biden-war

-The west is marginalizing itself high speed; diplomatic, economic, military...

After failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen this Ukraine US-made war is just another foreign policy disaster ! 

The Baltic states questioning what NATO can mean for them in case of a conflict. Sweden, Finland may think twice...will the US realy go for an all out war to defend Finland ???

DJ-The war in Ukraine is not over yet. But with western supplies drying up-Ukraine even running out of fuel-the fascist Kiev puppet regime will have to accept very harsh Russian conditions.

In western countries the population should ask what kind of "leaders" they have...time for major changes !



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 28 2022 at 2:34am

part 2

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYFA2gowgr4[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYFA2gowgr4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYFA2gowgr4   Alexander Mercouris/AM ;EU Russia in High Stakes Poker Game over Gas for Roubles, Russia Continues Advancing in Donbass News Topic 479

DJ some of his points;

-Poland pushing for a (energy) crisis between the EU and Russia because -in fact-they hate Russia...Both Bulgaria and Poland now may buy Russian energy via western partners...

-Several western countries do increase import of Russian energy NOW-to be able to stop importing it later on...

-The west is willing to send/sending a "mix of weapons" to Ukraine...a lot of them may not be that usefull-due to lack of training, spare parts, fitting munition..(AM mentions MoA-German "tanks"...maybe in Germany around ten people know how those "tanks" work...are able to give instructions).

-Ukraine sending more and more "reservists" to the frontlines. untrained...simply no chance...

-Eventhough Ukraine is now "mixing trains" with civilians and military goods in one train-russia is knocking out infrastructure...

-Russia going for a "slow motion offensive'-limiting their own losses while Ukraine now may see "hundreds of military deaths per day"....

-AM, The EU should not follow US neo-cons but go foe European interests...

DJ-My reaction-and why I think risks of nuclear war are INcreasing...

US goals are; stopping EurAsian integration, saving US$, regime change in Moscow (one could also include show of strength, NATO expansion etc..)

The US is failing in reaching ANY of these goals !

Since energy in Europe has been "privatized" it is companies-not governments-deciding on what energy they buy where and how. Several companies accept "new Russian rules" and pay with Euro's (so not US$) to Gazprombank-that changes that deposit into Rubles for payment...DJ-Maybe even worse !!! lots of countries did privatize the energy sector by selling it to the highest bidder...I would not be surprised if some major European energy companies may be owned-at least to a certain %-by Russian (or Chinese) companies/investors (with an office in a taxhaven...so in name it is not Russian...

Privatization may have caused both Europe and the US simply not knowing who owns essential companies...The energy and infrastructure (air/ports) are both strategic and were for sale in countries that had a debt problem...Greece did sell Pireus-port to China in the Euro-crisis...

[url]https://thecradle.co/Article/news/9638[/url] or https://thecradle.co/Article/news/9638 - https://thecradle.co/Article/news/9638 ;Iran’s exports to Africa stood at about $579 million dollars two years ago, which increased by 107 percent to one billion dollars last year

DJ; So European governments may be "limited" in what they can do in the-internationalized-energy sector. In the EU power is linked-if one country has a shortage of electricity-or prices are to high-a press on a button may see electricity being imported from another country. France in winter-nuclear power, in summer, autumn solar/wind from Germany, Denmark are already major factors. A lot of Russian oil and gas may NOT be used in powerplants but in industry...Here in NL glas-houses so far did use a lot of gas for heating. 

-The US$ and now also the Euro/€ face growing problems. Using a currency as a weapon did backfire. Also SWIFT-international banking did not show to be irreplaceable..kicking Russia out of SWIFT did see an "Asian alternative" grow high speed. 

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Gonzalo Lira

DJ, I believe also Canada may use "frozen Russian accounts" to pay Ukraine...however all the weapons being send to Ukraine, 7 billion per month to the Kiev-junta-to "keep Ukraine going" is NOT a western gift...So the west may use money they steal from Russia to "balance" the "help" send to Ukraine...

1.If the west ever wants to do any bussiness with Russia Russia wants it money back !

2.ANY government will think twice before putting money in ANY western bank...

3.Russia, Iran, OPEC "run' global energy...de-dollarization may now go high speed !

-Regime change in Moscow may happen because of Putin his age/health. But whoever replaces him will maybe even more hardline against "the West"...

So-present situation-if neo-cons, bojo, Poland PiS [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_Justice[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_Justice - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_Justice ;Prawo i Sprawiedliwość

want to show strength and resolve "going nuclear" may be a next step in escalation...

-[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpMGtZGpP7c[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpMGtZGpP7c - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpMGtZGpP7c   WION-India ;In a latest faceoff between US & China over Taiwan strait, US' missile destroyer sailed through Taiwan strait. US has now clarified on warship sailing.

and [url]https://southfront.org/american-casualties-reported-following-attack-on-us-led-coalition-patrol-in-northeastern-syria/[/url] or https://southfront.org/american-casualties-reported-following-attack-on-us-led-coalition-patrol-in-northeastern-syria/ - https://southfront.org/american-casualties-reported-following-attack-on-us-led-coalition-patrol-in-northeastern-syria/  

[url]https://southfront.org/iran-intelligence-ministry-says-it-arrested-three-mossad-agents/[/url] or https://southfront.org/iran-intelligence-ministry-says-it-arrested-three-mossad-agents/ - https://southfront.org/iran-intelligence-ministry-says-it-arrested-three-mossad-agents/  

DJ Also lots of other frontlines...Besides that-the west may see "serious problems" soon resulting in "growing social unrest"...(with also another CoViD-pandemic wave, climate collapse related fires/drought/food crisis...

Infact I think the outlook is getting even worse, not better...The basic problem is US exceptionalism-tunnelvision...blind for a fast changing world. Europe "leaders" following US orders...

DJ We need global cooperation to get out of trouble-but see western foolishness...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 12:16am

DJ,

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/president-biden-ok[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/president-biden-ok - https://www.zerohedge.com/political/president-biden-ok ;Presented with no comment...

You want to stay polite, but why this person is still in the White House ????

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/uk-wants-global-nato-capable-defending-pacific[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/uk-wants-global-nato-capable-defending-pacific - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/uk-wants-global-nato-capable-defending-pacific ;

British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said her government favors the creation of a “global NATO” that is able to guarantee the defense of Taiwan and the broader Pacific region, calling for preemptive action against would-be aggressors.

In an https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/foreign-secretarys-mansion-house-speech-at-the-lord-mayors-easter-banquet-the-return-of-geopolitics" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - address outlining UK foreign policy on Wednesday, Truss said London rejects the “false choice between Euro-Atlantic security and Indo-Pacific security,” instead arguing “we need both.”

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In seeking to create a globe-spanning military coalition able to project power across the Pacific, Truss may find a partner in South Korea’s President-elect Yoon Suk-yeol, who is now https://news.antiwar.com/2022/04/27/south-koreas-president-elect-to-consider-joining-the-quad-aukus/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - considering whether to join the Quad and AUKUS organizations. Yoon has staked out a more hawkish stance than his predecessor toward both China and North Korea, even urging Washington to https://news.antiwar.com/2022/04/06/south-koreas-president-elect-wants-us-nuclear-bombers-submarines-to-return/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - re-deploy nuclear bombers and submarines to the Korean peninsula earlier this month.

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nasa-slams-chinese-opacity-beijing-and-russia-plan-undercut-us-space-dominance[/url] or  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nasa-slams-chinese-opacity-beijing-and-russia-plan-undercut-us-space-dominance - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nasa-slams-chinese-opacity-beijing-and-russia-plan-undercut-us-space-dominance ; NASA Administrator Bill Nelson criticized China for lacking transparency and willingness to cooperate with the US. Beijing has pushed for closer ties with Russia to displace US' global leadership in space. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-nuclear-strategy-very-bad-place-china-and-russia-expert[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-nuclear-strategy-very-bad-place-china-and-russia-expert - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-nuclear-strategy-very-bad-place-china-and-russia-expert ; “The other piece that we shouldn’t forget is that Russia and China seem to be increasingly cooperating at all levels, including at the strategic level. I don’t think they are engaging in any nuclear cooperation, but we’ll have to see what happens over the next few years and decades.”

DJ, A total incapability of self reflection in the US foreign policy...a total lack of any basic respect for countries not following US orders...the US destroying the UN...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvyMSuT3mJc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvyMSuT3mJc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvyMSuT3mJc ; Alex Christoforou/AC; Russia says Poland plans to occupy west Ukraine. Biden, Trudeau plan to seize assets. Update Topic 518

DJ, US and Canada simply stealing assets from Russians to "give it to Ukraine" 9or put in their own corrupt pockets...). Poland would have plans to send in a "protection force" into western Ukraine. It would be NOT a NATO operation but a Polish "R2P" Right-to-Protect the Polish minority in NW Ukraine...BTW; Poland buying Russian gas-a at a higher price-from Germany...(Poland still not in the Euro-zone, so would have to exchange its currency anyway...).

Russia did give a clear warning any western intervention into Ukraine would see a Russian reaction. So sending military goods has resulted in Russia blowing up infrastructure in the west of Ukraine...DJ-During World War Two Ukraine nazi-nationalists killed 100,000 Polish people, the Poles killed 20,000 Ukrainians.

 [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe) DJ-After W.W.1 there were civil wars both in Ukraine and Poland. Polish nationalists pushed towards Kiev...After W.W.2 "Poland was moved west" had to include some former parts of Germany...

AC thinks of two options if Poland would send in troops into Ukraine; A Russian military reaction, or Russia not doing much....I think a third option is Russia trying to create an Ukraine-Polish war...

DJ, Another "western plan" could be UK trying to push Turkey for "adventures in the Crimea..." [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War there are lots of old conflicts that can be "restarted"...

Both the non-western world and some EU members must by now be in shock of how developments end up in a downward spiral...

Insanity rules ! End of part 1



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 3:01am

part 2, [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOETRuXNJ9M[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOETRuXNJ9M - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOETRuXNJ9M Alexander Mercouris/AM ;EU Companies 'Agreeing to Gas for Roubles', Putin Gives Strong Warning to West, Russia Claims Ukraine Defences 'Cracking'

DJ In short; Russian economy is growing-increased energy exports a.o. to Europe; while replacing western goods by Chinese, Indian, own/other production...(in short a repeat of 2014 when western sanctions a.o. on no fruits being experted to Russia damaged a.o. NL fruit-export, while Russia increased its own production and import from a.o. Turkey, Iran, China...)

European companies now buy Russian energy via Gazprom-bank, indirect for Rubles-as A.M. mentioned earlier-renewal of contract will see Russia selling energy-most likely other export (grain, raw materials)-only in Rubles for "unfriendly nations".

The outcome is both the Euro and US$ are getting weaker, Ruble increase in importance. DJ-No doubt China, Iran, India may be interested in trade in their currencies-even further weakening both € and $ ....somehow "western leaders" did not think of this...

UK-FM [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Truss[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Truss - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Truss is preparing to replace bojo...has the "idea" that Ukraine should conquer also the Donbas and Crimea...while Russia-in phase 2-is taking over the East and South of Ukraine, switching it to the Ruble...de facto preparing it to be included into Russia...

DJ-FFP/IBP "Fact Free Politics/Insanity Based Politics" seems to be dominant in the west....[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/04/29/netherlands-sends-officers-investigate-war-crimes-ukraine[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/04/29/netherlands-sends-officers-investigate-war-crimes-ukraine - https://nltimes.nl/2022/04/29/netherlands-sends-officers-investigate-war-crimes-ukraine ;Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan announced this week that the ICC is joining the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) established by Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine. The JIT investigates crimes against humanity and war crimes committed in Ukraine.

Like in MH17 mass murder, the "JIT" will be following Ukraine "proof"....A neutral investigation of war crimes will be impossible because of the JIT-cover up...

DJ, The US/NATO are running high speed out of means to fight a non-nuclear war...

link [url]https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/04/27/pszn-a27.html?pk_campaign=newsletter&pk_kwd=wsws[/url] or https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/04/27/pszn-a27.html?pk_campaign=newsletter&pk_kwd=wsws - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/04/27/pszn-a27.html?pk_campaign=newsletter&pk_kwd=wsws ;

The United States and the NATO powers of Europe have set into motion a chain of events that is leading to World War III. 

In her famed work on the outbreak of World War I, The Guns of August, Barbara Tuchman detailed how miscalculations, the ubiquitous belief in a brief and winnable conflict, and irreversible tactical maneuvers—the “ifs, errors, and commitments”—accumulated as the imperialist powers dragged the workers of Europe into the snarl of the trenches and the slaughter of the Great War.

A similar dynamic is unfolding in the US-NATO conflict with Russia. The US-supplied howitzers and massive deployment of weapons into Ukraine are sounding the Guns of April. 

In mid-March, US President Joe Biden repeatedly stated that he would not allow direct conflict between the United States and Russia, because “that would mean World War III.” A month later, this is precisely what the Biden administration is doing.

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The aims of the war are now clear. The bloodshed in Ukraine was not provoked to defend its technical right to join NATO, but rather was prepared, instigated and massively escalated in order to destroy Russia as a significant military force and to overthrow its government. Ukraine is a pawn in this conflict, and its population is cannon fodder.

The Ramstein war council was organized to plot the next stage in this scheme. Prior to and in the aftermath of the meeting, the US and other NATO powers announced the deployment of advanced weaponry to Ukraine, including anti-tank missiles, tanks and tactical drones. 

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov responded, accusing the United States of pressuring the Ukrainian government to sabotage peace talks and of conducting a proxy war in Ukraine. He warned that there was a “serious, real” danger of nuclear war. Austin dismissed Lavrov’s warning as “dangerous and unhelpful.” 

What nonsense! Washington assembles a war camp and states that it aims to “break the back” of Russia. When Russia responds that such language and goals raise the danger of nuclear war, Washington declares this to be … unhelpful. 

The United States has made clear that it aims to crush Russia and topple its government. Faced with such an existential threat, the use of nuclear weapons becomes a tactic the Russian ruling class will weigh. Washington is determined to win the war, the Putin government is determined to prevent that from happening. There is no way out for either side but escalation. Lavrov is in fact correct: nuclear war is a real and serious danger.

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A decisive defeat of Russia in the conflict requires the ever more direct involvement of the NATO powers themselves, up to and including the deployment of troops.

With its arms shipments, sweeping declarations and councils of war, the United States has staked its entire credibility on the defeat of Russia in this conflict. “The stakes reach beyond Ukraine and even beyond Europe,” Austin declared on Tuesday. The fate of American hegemony, including the credibility of its threats against China, hangs in the balance. The reckless decisions made by Washington have thus become the major premise in the logic of further escalation. 

DJ; The US "democrats" wanted war with Russia, US "republicans" go for war with China...I wonder how much the Military Industrial shares will go up..."politicians" making money out of war...

Since by now it is clear the US goal is staying #1-whatever the costs not only BRICS, also Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria may "reconsider their position"...The "west" going for self destruction high speed...Total stupidity however could end us all in a nuclear war...

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Gonzalo Lira

and

may indicate the total insanity !

As AM mentioned; growing chaos, hyperinflation in "the west"...DJ-in 1776 there was a US revolution, the French followed in 1789...You can not spent billions of fiat currency ending up in the pockets of the rich-while the rest of the world is getting poorer and ill, climate collapse getting worse...of course there will be a "public reaction"...

End of part 2



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 7:22am

Another try, 

From [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-open-thread-2022-56/comments/page/3/#comments[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-open-thread-2022-56/comments/page/3/#comments - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-open-thread-2022-56/comments/page/3/#comments ;

The threat of Poland invading Ukraine to round up and detain 'Ukrainian nationalists' should not be a surprise for students of history. The two largest Slavic population nations after Russia have been having an up and down one day chicken (peace), next day chickenshit (war) relationship since at least the 14th century when warlords of Kingdom of Poland and the Ruthenian Kingdom would inter-marry have peace for a while, then fall out for a spot of war.

Fine for the nobility but not great for the masses who were expected to grab their pitchforks & scythes, then head off to kill or be killed.

The 20th century saw two of those conflicts, the first in 1918-1919 in the  http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CU%5CK%5CUkrainian6PolishWarinGalicia1918hD719.htm" rel="nofollow" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - Ukrainian-Polish War in Galicia


The Ukrainian-Polish War broke out in late 1918 as a result of the Polish rejection of Ukrainian efforts to establish an independent state—the Western Ukrainian National Republic (ZUNR)—in the wake of the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The major issue of dispute in the conflict was control over eastern Galicia, a predominantly Ukrainian ethnic territory regarded by the Poles as an integral part of the historical Polish realm. As the boundaries of the new Polish state had not yet been established, and the ZUNR had not been granted international diplomatic recognition, the matter was ultimately reduced to a question of control by military force.


The current proposed invasion appears to be pretty much a repeat of that action, which won't have official 'Nato' support but which is being underwritten by amerika.

Poles will be motivated by the second conflict launched under cover of WW2 when the majority of Stepan Bandera's Ukrainian nazis were used in Poland as the enforcement arm of Nazi oppression. It is well known that they rounded up Polish jews, less well known is their role of dealing with recalcitrant Polish local politicians. In addition Poland has always claimed that it was the Ukrainian NKVD who did the bulk of the alleged killing of Polish officers at Katyn.

One of the reasons the Rus who originated from sweden as vikings without the ships, had so little difficulty defeating indigenous slavs to establish Russia was that many slavic communities rated other neighbouring Slavic communities as being their worst enemy, making it simple for the Rus to use those conflicts by backing one side or the other to establish primacy. The same tactics as the english tried in Africa and south asia many centuries later.

I dunno what amerika is thinking making this a three way conflict, sure it could make the conflict last longer, but the other side of that coin is that it vastly increases the chance of Russia luring one of the other two participants into joining forces, especially if that party feels amerika has neglected it in favour of another.

I guess some will find this interesting, but many others will feel that such interest comes at too high a price. As the conflict intensifies, gets more personal for some, an increase in butchery & torture just for the hell of it is inevitable.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Apr 28 2022 23:26 utc |  https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-open-thread-2022-56.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02942fa7ff9f200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02942fa7ff9f200c" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - 203

DJ link [url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/28/uk-to-send-8000-soldiers-to-eastern-europe-on-expanded-exercises[/url] or https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/28/uk-to-send-8000-soldiers-to-eastern-europe-on-expanded-exercises - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/28/uk-to-send-8000-soldiers-to-eastern-europe-on-expanded-exercises  

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/turkish-media-50-french-military-officers-trapped-at-ukraine-s-azovstal-steel-plant-may-have-fired-missiles-that-sunk-russia-flagship[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/turkish-media-50-french-military-officers-trapped-at-ukraine-s-azovstal-steel-plant-may-have-fired-missiles-that-sunk-russia-flagship - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/turkish-media-50-french-military-officers-trapped-at-ukraine-s-azovstal-steel-plant-may-have-fired-missiles-that-sunk-russia-flagship ; 

Staggering information is coming out of Turkish media outlets today claiming that at least fifty (50) senior officers of the French military, are trapped underground at the Azovstal steel mill plant in Mariupol Ukraine, surrounded by Russian troops.

The media is claiming that this information was kept ultra-secret due to the then-upcoming French presidential elections, and had the French people known that those men were in Ukraine, actually supervising Ukrainian war efforts against Russia, the French presidential election would likely have gone to Marie LePen instead of re-electing Emmanuel Macron.

Even more shocking, information is coming out claiming the Russia missile cruiser Moskva, which suffered explosions - said to be from missile hits - may have been hit thanks to those French (NATO) officers.

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/norway-boosts-military-drills-north-increases-emergency-preparedness-citing-ukraine[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/norway-boosts-military-drills-north-increases-emergency-preparedness-citing-ukraine - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/norway-boosts-military-drills-north-increases-emergency-preparedness-citing-ukraine ; 

The commander of the Norwegian armed forces has announced his country will step up military exercises in the far north in response to Russia's ongoing attack of Ukraine.

Major General Lars Lervik https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/flere-militaere-ovelser-i-nord-norge-pa-grunn-av-krigen-i-ukraina-1.15945372" rel="nofollow noopener" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - told national broadcaster NRK that "Based on what has happened in Ukraine, we have reported a need to increase activity here at home. In addition, we have reported a need to strengthen preparedness and make that work a little faster than originally planned."

DJ; Are there already NATO soldiers fighting Russians in Ukraine ? Very likely...Most likely even "special forces" in West-Russia...

[url]https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad[/url] or https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad - https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad has good flights-info

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/first-shipment-russian-coal-paid-yuan-its-way-china[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/first-shipment-russian-coal-paid-yuan-its-way-china - https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/first-shipment-russian-coal-paid-yuan-its-way-china

[url]https://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2022/04/27/on-ukraine-the-world-majority-sides-with-russia-over-us/[/url] or  https://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2022/04/27/on-ukraine-the-world-majority-sides-with-russia-over-us/ - https://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2022/04/27/on-ukraine-the-world-majority-sides-with-russia-over-us/

The NATO goal is to "save" the "uni-polar world"/US domination...so the fight is NOT only against Russia or China...This is total insanity !




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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 10:03pm

The biden-war

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-doubling-down.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-doubling-down.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/ukraine-doubling-down.html ;

Most of above sums will go the U.S. arms industry to deliver weapons for which the Ukraine has little use or which never will reach the frontline. The rest will be pilfered by Ukrainian oligarchs.

That financial doubling down will not be very effective.

There is also the possibility of doubling down by widening the war. This could be  https://multipolarista.com/2022/04/27/ukraine-nato-eu-militarize-balkans/" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - in Bosnia where attacks on the Serbian population could drag the Russian ally Serbia into another war. An additional war could also be created  https://www.unz.com/article/ukraine-romania-moldova-vs-transnistria-a-ww-iii-scenario/" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - in Transnistria (marked as a lengthy strip on the left of the above maps). This could involve not only forces from the Ukraine but also from Moldova, Romania and Poland. In the early 1990s a small war between Moldova and the Russian population in Transnistria ended in 1992 with a ceasefire and Russian peacekeeper troops on the ground.

In a piece about Biden's new pledge of money to Ukraine the NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/28/us/politics/ukraine-biden-aid.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - notes :

The Ukrainian military said it was moving more troops to the border with Transnistria, a small breakaway region in Moldova, on Ukraine’s southwest flank, hundreds of miles from the fighting on the eastern front.

Should those troops do something Russia does not like it will likely use its air and missile capabilities to destroy their fighting power. President Putin certainly did not mean Transnistria when he recently spoke to Russian lawmakers and threatened  http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/68297" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - retaliation :

Let me emphasise once again: if anyone intends to intervene from the outside and create a strategic threat to Russia that is unacceptable to us, they should know that our retaliatory strikes will be lightning-fast. We have the tools we need for this, the likes of which no one else can claim at this point. We will not just brag; we will use them if necessary. And I want everyone to know this; we have made all the decisions on this matter.

That threat was likely a response to rumors that the U.S. and UK are planing to deliver longer range missiles to Ukraine to be use against targets on Russian grounds. That would be another form of doubling down but also a way more dangerous one.

Ukraine is a victim here but not a victim of Russia but of much bigger plans in the U.S. which  https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/15/michael-brenner-american-dissent-on-ukraine-is-dying-in-darkness/" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - did its best to instigate this war (recommended).

As Michael Hudson  https://youtu.be/OdlGDSnCqz0?t=1476" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - explains (vid), the economic consequences of this war will be catastrophic for many countries and people. But the neocons who are running the war do not care about those. They have a plan to profit from it. They want to stay the unipolar power of the globe. To them it is a game and their main motives include an ingrained hatred towards Russia.

DJ [url]http://thesaker.is/pepe-escobar-and-danny-haiphong-russia-china-and-the-post-dollar-world/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/pepe-escobar-and-danny-haiphong-russia-china-and-the-post-dollar-world/ - http://thesaker.is/pepe-escobar-and-danny-haiphong-russia-china-and-the-post-dollar-world/   A main reason for this global war; de-dollar-ization...

So this war is not only against Russia;

[url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260599.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260599.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260599.shtml ; The hysteria toward China has risen to a new peak in the US. Political climate in Washington is increasingly weird in terms of China-related topics. Why is there so much irrationality on China in the US? How to view China-US relations from a constructive perspective? The Global Times (GT) interviewed several Chinese and American observers on these topics.

and [url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/04/29/681208/Iran-Leader-Khamenei-International-Quds-Day-Palestine-Israel[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/04/29/681208/Iran-Leader-Khamenei-International-Quds-Day-Palestine-Israel - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/04/29/681208/Iran-Leader-Khamenei-International-Quds-Day-Palestine-Israel ; Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei says recent developments in Palestine and across the world have sounded the death knell for all plots for compromise with the Israeli regime.

DJ; Iran is getting closer to Russia and China-most because of western actions/sanctions...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/heatwave-triggers-indian-power-crisis-state-firms-negotiate-russia-crude-imports-secure[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/heatwave-triggers-indian-power-crisis-state-firms-negotiate-russia-crude-imports-secure - https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/heatwave-triggers-indian-power-crisis-state-firms-negotiate-russia-crude-imports-secure supplies;

Western sanctions against Russia forced many countries to find alternative sources, but a growing number of G-20 members are becoming defiant and ignoring Washington and continuing to do business with Moscow https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bretton-woods-iii-china-begins-buying-russian-coal-and-oil-yuan" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - outside the dollar system .

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-asks-state-firms-consider-buying-russian-oil-assets-2022-04-28/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Reuters also notes that New Delhi has asked state-run energy companies to evaluate a potential purchase of European oil major BP's stake in sanctions-hit Russian firm Rosneft. BP https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bp-will-exit-20-stake-russian-state-oil-giant-rosneft" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - exited its stake in Rosneft in late February, taking a massive $25 billion hit. 

India is securing its future with fossil fuels from sanctioned Russia to ensure its supplies for power generation remain adequate. New Delhi is ignoring Washington's request to boycott Russia shows the West's waning control over the rest of the world. Is this the latest example of a bipolar world emerging? 

DJ India is the 3td economy of the world-expected to pass the US within a decade...and will NOT be using the US$ ! Also from Saudi Arabia-oil in yuan to Vietnam, Indonesia, Brazil, South Africa are NOT following "US orders"...

This biden-war is driven by insanity of an old man in the White House, and a clique of "western-dominance dreamers" [url]https://southfront.org/uk-u-s-regime-now-goes-for-the-kill-against-both-russia-china-is-nuclear-primacy-likely-to-be-reached-soon/[/url] or https://southfront.org/uk-u-s-regime-now-goes-for-the-kill-against-both-russia-china-is-nuclear-primacy-likely-to-be-reached-soon/ - https://southfront.org/uk-u-s-regime-now-goes-for-the-kill-against-both-russia-china-is-nuclear-primacy-likely-to-be-reached-soon/ . The basic idea is "global growth is okay as long as it serves the US/UK"...

DJ-Insanity driven wars (often with a "religious excuse") are often "uncontrolable"...the enemy is "a worthless non-believer", "sub-human"...Western propaganda describing Russians as "monsters' is a sign of insanity...

I do not doubt -most-Asian countries are in contact with each other. They have to face a "last colonial war" against a (pro) western block unwilling to learn. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/north-korea-observers-say-kim-readying-first-nuclear-test-2017[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/north-korea-observers-say-kim-readying-first-nuclear-test-2017 - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/north-korea-observers-say-kim-readying-first-nuclear-test-2017  

Most of the risks are NOT in Europe but in Asia...

DJ-Only the headline itself is making the point; [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tick-tock-hartnett-turns-apocalyptic-says-carnage-accelerate-max-pain-and-exit-waiting[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tick-tock-hartnett-turns-apocalyptic-says-carnage-accelerate-max-pain-and-exit-waiting - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tick-tock-hartnett-turns-apocalyptic-says-carnage-accelerate-max-pain-and-exit-waiting ...since insanity is the basis for this war the West may have started a conflict they can not win...high speed destruction of their own (fiat based-empty) currencies-and with that-their economies...

The only remaining option is "go nuclear"....The only way to stop that is "regime change" in the west...

DJ, Maybe the best part of the very bad news is; there are better alternatives ! People that can get the west out of this downward spiral of insanity !



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 29 2022 at 11:18pm

DJ, 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpc1ar0kMU4&t=1s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpc1ar0kMU4&t=1s - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpc1ar0kMU4&t=1s Alexander Mercouris/AM ;Ukraine Admits Retreats in Eastern Ukraine, Time Running out For Azovstal, Russia Warns Poland Against Ukraine Invasion News Topic 481

In short;

-Azovstal commander (?) referring to 1940 dunkirk resque-indicating the commander does not realize the position Azovstal is in. fodd is running out...only options surrender or die.

-Basically also only options for Ukraine-fighters in Donbas. position is getting impossible. Supplies may not reach the frontlines.

-Western 'leaders" by now must be aware of Ukraine being beaten-however still stick to "supporting Kiev-junta"

-US may have an HQ in Western Ukraine-Lviv. Kiev-junta offices are in Russian crosshairs. Russia may attack both Kiev and Lviv military HQ. 

-Poland thinking of "moving in" is not stopped by other western "leaders" -but  russia will use missiles against them.

-Biden, Bojo (both most likely soon replaced-but replacement may NOT be improvement), Germany, France unable to get back to realism. Keep this war going on...

-US now funding Kiev-junta (like they did with South Vietnam, Iran after 2003, Afghanistan under US occupation)...

-Moldova wants to stay out of the war (and not waiting for NATO to push them into the war...).


DJ-The "grinding" of (pro) Ukraine forces will result in a collapse of (parts of) Ukraine. US/UK may be "pushing" Poland for "unwise actions" in Ukraine. NATO article 5 does NOT offer protection when a NATO member attacks/invades another country-even for "peace keeping".  However a further escalation may provide room for NATO starting a (nuclear) war against Russia. 

DJ-Since "countries not following US orders are enemies" and UK pushing for a "global NATO" also against China-such an escalation would see global war. 

DJ-There have been limited attacks inside Russia-not far from the Ukraine border. Most likely those attacks were done by western "special forces". Russia may react likewise. So if UK/US (others) see explosions in oil-storage/transport the Russian message may be clear-"we can do what you can do"...

-In Mariupol-Azovstal there may be "lots of westeners" (France, UK, US, Israel)...A reason why "the west" is keeping the war escalating is they want those western military out...

Some twitter;

https://mobile.twitter.com/s_m_marandi" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Seyed Mohammad Marandi

DJ-The (neo-colonial) west destroying the UN .

https://twitter.com/Desi_FLA" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Destiny Chloe

DJ, It is the poor that pay the price. US inflation at "Vietnam war" levels...Censorship a new normal...

AM also mentioning the perspectives are only worsening-if there is no(t) more rational western leadership...For now "NATO" in a tunnelvision...again running out of weapons that can NOT be replaced because Russia, China will not send the needed materials...

DJ-A further escalation will bring the western energy sector under attack, cyber warfare...Rest of the world-by now-may not be happy with F-UK-US nuclear weapons...Social unrest will explode in the west...a "hot summer" is on its way...




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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 12:28am

part 3; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTzaz347Iw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTzaz347Iw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTzaz347Iw The Duran; As Ukraine crumbles, Second and Third fronts in Europe crack open  The Duran: Episode 1269

DJ; "Not the sharpest knives in the draw", from blinken to nuland...the US problem is much wider then just biden....Here in Europe "Atlantacists" rule foreign policy. If there is a "counter balance" it may be from industry, bussinesses-the Asia market is the future...

-Ukraine preparing excersises near Moldova/Transnistria

-Poland not being stopped by the US (or EU) far making plans for "getting involved more" into Ukraine. DJ-Very likely Ukraine nationalists may welcome Russian missile strikes against the Poles in such a scenario...

-US hardliners/neo cons may be pushing Romania for "actions"-move into Moldova ? (DJ-Will Moldova seek protection-NATO is an agressor-Russia is not their favorite...China is able to fly in troops ???)

-Neo-con "strategy"; create chaos-funded by fiat dollars-let the tax payer pay for their profits and they then walk away...get away with it...

DJ-In the Arab world it must be frustrating to see how Israel gets away with its agression-airstrikes in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq. The Palestine-question is dividing the Middle East. Solving that problem united with Iran, Turkey may be a step towards "religious peace" in Islam...Of course "solving the Palestine problem" may be the end of Israel...Israel needs to find another way to survive-the US can no longer protect Israel enough...

Again-in East Asia, US seeking nuclear weapons being stationed-one way or the other-in South Korea is a red line being crossed for Russia, China...North Korea going for another nuclear test should be seen as a warning. US foreign policy disasters is pushing North Korea, Russia and China towards each other...

There are lots of small islands-now under Japanese control-that may be hard to defend...Since there is no longer any point in talks with "the west"DJ-I think "plans are being prepared" for further "actions" in East Asia. Also diplomacy trying to push Vietnam, Philipines, Indonesia, Malaysia towards the "Asia-camp".

India is still a ? If possible Modi/India would like to cencentrate on their own problems and conflicts. However western foreign stupidity-"If you are not with us you are against us" may push India even closer to old enemies Pakistan and China. India has old friendship with Russia-good relations with Iran...

Africa, Latin America "the global south" is facing a worsening climate, water, energy, food crisis. DJ-Russia, China may be in a better position to offer help...the west is sinking into the self-made crisis...less and less able to offer anything else then support for fascist "leaders"...

Australia, Japan as US "allies"/ "Pacific NATO" may do to those countries what US-biden-insanity is doing to Europe; create chaos, hyperinflation-growing military risks...Australia needs to be able to export what it is producing...has allready very major problems (climate change; from flooding, drought to wildfires). 

Japan is very vulnerable-a "strong Japan" is NOT welcomed in East Asia (just like most Europeans are not jumping from joy over a stronger Germany...even the UK may have doubts...Does not want a strong German navy...).

So-as far as I can see this is the basis for further escalation-when leaders in the west remain blind and stupid...

The perspectives are that far more worse then any pandemic or climate collapse now is...Again we need better leaders in the west or may not survive it...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 10:44pm

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peJpZVI_7DY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peJpZVI_7DY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peJpZVI_7DY   Alexander Mercouris/AM;EU to Cut Itself Off from Russian Oil as Global Stagflation Deepens, Russia Predicts Full Econ Recovery by 2024, Ukraine Suffers Heavy Losses  News Topic 482

DJ;

in short;

-Ukraine military in the east of Ukraine more and more getting encircled-two options; surrender or die

-Ukraine running out of fuel

-Western weapon supplies (by far) not enough to replace Ukraine losses

-Poland may have/be sending 50% !!!! of its (T-72) tanks to Ukraine

(DJ US weapon producers warning they may not be able to increase enough new replacements).

-Western strategy is "draining Russia" -via a long Ukraine war; AM the west is draining itself...

In the sanctions war Russian inflation now around European level but going down-while EU/UK/US see inflation going up

-Countries like India, China, even Indonesia have an energy shortage-so they increase buying Russian energy

-EU will stop buying Russian oil (with growing worries from US, UK) end of this year...

-Germany still buying gas from Russia-but has to then sell it to Finland, Denmark, Bukgaria, Baltic States-so not getting enough for next winter

-Russia is self-supporting for food, energy...the west is NOT !!!

-DJ"NATO-stan" is getting isolated...

From [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-empire-lies-operation-z-new-global-chessboard[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-empire-lies-operation-z-new-global-chessboard - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-empire-lies-operation-z-new-global-chessboard ;

In a subtle reference to the work of Sergei Glazyev, as the Minister in Charge of Integration and Macroeconomics of the Eurasia Economic Union explained https://thecradle.co/Article/interviews/9135" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - in our recent interview , Patrushev hit the heart of the current geoeconomic game, with Russia now actively moving towards a gold standard: “Experts are working on a project proposed by the scientific community to create a two-circuit monetary and financial system. In particular, it is proposed to determine the value of the ruble, which should be secured by both gold and a group of goods that are currency values, to put the ruble exchange rate in line with real purchasing power parity.”

That was inevitable after the outright theft of over $300 billion in Russian foreign reserves. It may have taken a few days for Moscow to be fully certified it was facing Totalen Krieg. The corollary is that the collective West has lost any power to influence Russian decisions. The pace of the game in the new chessboard is being set by Russia.

Earlier in the week, in his meeting with the UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres, Putin went as far as stating that he’d be more than willing to negotiate – with only a few conditions: Ukrainian neutrality and autonomy status for Donbass. Yet now everyone knows it’s too late. For a Washington in Totalen Krieg mode negotiation is anathema – and that has been the case since the aftermath of the Russia-Ukraine meeting in Istanbul in late March.

So far, on Operation Z, the Russian Armed forces have used only 12% of its soldiers,10% of its fighter jets, 7% of its tanks, 5% of its missiles, and 4% of its artillery. The pain dial is set to go substantially up – and with the total liberation of Mariupol and the resolution one way or another of the Donbass cauldron there is nothing the hysteria/propaganda/weaponizing combo deployed by the collective West can do to alter facts on the ground.

That includes desperate gambits such as the one uncovered by SVR – Russian foreign intel, which very rarely makes mistakes. SVR found out that the Empire of Lies/War Inc. axis is pushing not only for a de facto Polish invasion to annex Western Ukraine, under the banner of “historical reunification”, but also for a joint Romanian/Ukrainian invasion of Moldova/Transnistria, with Romanian “peacekeepers” already piling up near the Moldova border.

Washington, as the SVR maintains, has been plotting the Polish gambit for over a month now. It would “lead from behind” (remember Libya?), “encouraging” a “group of countries” to occupy Western Ukraine. So partition is already on the cards. Were that ever to materialize, it will be fascinating to bet on which locations Mr. Sarmat would be inclined to distribute his business card.

DJ By going for a "long war" the west is destroying Ukraine...but also destroying itself-already facing major problems. In a war-economy (like the US had in W.W.2) you need access to resources, you need allies...

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov had once again detailed how the Americans “no longer insist on the implementation of international law, but on respect for the ‘rules-based world order’. These ‘rules’ are not deciphered in any way. They say that now there are few rules. For us, they don’t exist at all. There is international law. We respect it, as does the UN Charter. The key provision, the main principle is the sovereign equality of states. The U.S. flagrantly violates its obligations under the UN Charter when it promotes its ‘rules’”.

Lavrov had to stress, once again, that the current incandescent situation may be compared to the Cuban Missile Crisis: “In those years, there was a channel of communication that both leaders trusted. Now there is no such channel. No one is trying to create it.”

The Empire of Lies, in its current state, does not do diplomacy.

DJ, The "west" may be looking for (another) long war..."to weaken Russia" ; facts may be -again-indicating the "west" is damaging itself much harder...Has a total unrealistic view of how the 2022 world is working...Again-most countries can do without the west...The West needs others much more then they need "us"...

So-if the goal is "regime change" in Moscow-the only option remaining is nuclear...We need to get of this road NOW !!!

End of part 1



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: April 30 2022 at 10:48pm

part 2,

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcv44Su4xJc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcv44Su4xJc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcv44Su4xJc WION-India;The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution requiring P5 members to justify their use of veto powers. India's representative criticised the reform as a 'take it or leave it' offer that ignores the root problems at the UN. Palki Sharma Upadhyay tells you more.

DJ-The UN needs to reform or it will be obsolete...BRICS need a place in the security council, Brazil, India, South Africa need better representation...

and [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-j970yDrh0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-j970yDrh0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-j970yDrh0 WION 

starting with; Henry Kissinger [url]https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/henry-kissinger-quotes[/url] or https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/henry-kissinger-quotes - https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/henry-kissinger-quotes "It may be dangerous to be an enemy of the US, it is fatal to be a friend"....Joe Biden said "India has its own problems" while talking about the ideological tussle between autocracies and the alliance of democracies. What problem is Biden talking about? How should India see this comment? Molly Gambhir tells you.

DJ; India did not ask biden for his opinion on the state of India democracy...India does not want to be yet another tool for US foreign policy...but India is seeking a partnership based on mutual respect...

DJ-India does NOT have pipelines linking it with Russia...import of Russian energy is limited (1/60th of EU imports for 2021...something like that...the EU still is importing Russian energy, US buying Russian oil, uranium...). 

Since the basic US goal is a "uni-polar world" in wich the US is at the top-telling other countries what to do-or else they learn why the US has that many military bases around the globe-a lot of countries are getting fed up with US colonialism and racism, "exceptionalism"...

China; [url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260636.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260636.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260636.shtml ; Liz Truss, UK Foreign Secretary, delivered what the Financial Times described as a "hawkish set-piece" speech at a banquet in London on Wednesday. Her target was China. She said "NATO must have a global outlook," and "needs to preempt threats in the Indo-Pacific." Then she bluntly pointed out that they "must ensure that democracies like Taiwan are able to defend themselves." It's fair to say that Truss' remarks are the most blatant and ambitious statements among those made by US and Western politicians for a while about "the globalization of NATO." 

DJ; The idea of a "global NATO" only can be seen as a new form of western colonialism....The idea that ANY non western country will buy that is insane...

-China and Russia have been trying to get peace and de-nuclearization in Korea. US plans now to also (again) have US nuclear weapons in South Korea is a danger for all of Asia. The US having Japan as its major ally-Koreans united in hate against Japan-is "unwise". South Korea bussiness has its future in Asia NOT in "the west"...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule should NOT repeat itself in another form !

-Latin America; [url]https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuela-and-Turkey-Sign-Eight-Cooperation-Agreements-20220429-0024.html[/url] or https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuela-and-Turkey-Sign-Eight-Cooperation-Agreements-20220429-0024.html - https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuela-and-Turkey-Sign-Eight-Cooperation-Agreements-20220429-0024.html  

DJ Somehow "western leaders" are blind, in a tunnelvision...destroying their own countries-and the world...





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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: May 01 2022 at 1:36am

Some very odd stuff in the Sunday comics above^. Nothing worse than a Russian misinformation troll living in the free world, disgusting...

There's only one "leader" destroying countries, war criminal and leader of a terrorist nation, Putin. Hopefully reports of his battle with cancer are true and he expires shortly. 

Now back to the news....

Russia's economy could spiral into a depression under an EU oil embargo. Here's why Moscow won't be able to rely on China and India to fill the gap.
If the European Union imposes a sweeping Russian oil embargo, it could send Russia's economy into a depression, an analyst told Insider. Russia will have to slash its oil production because the country has very limited domestic storage capacity, said Kpler's lead oil analyst. Moscow will likely turn to China and India to help take on more oil supplies, but they won't be able to fill the gap.


Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: May 01 2022 at 1:59am


Britain says Russian troll factory is spreading disinformation on social media, even on obscure flu talk websites.

ONDON (Reuters) - The British Foreign Office said on Sunday Russia is using a troll factory to spread disinformation about the war in Ukraine on social media and target politicians across a number of countries including Britain and South Africa.

Britain cited UK-funded expert research, which it did not publish. It said the research exposed how the Kremlin’s disinformation campaign was designed to manipulate international public opinion of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, boost support for it and recruit new sympathisers.

Russia calls its actions in Ukraine a “special operation” to disarm Ukraine and protect it from fascists. Ukraine and the West say the fascist allegation is baseless and the war is an unprovoked act of aggression.


Russia says the Western media have provided an excessively partial narrative of the war that largely ignores Moscow’s concerns about the enlargement of NATO and what it says is the persecution of Russian speakers in Ukraine, something denied by Kyiv.

“We cannot allow the Kremlin and its shady troll farms to invade our online spaces with their lies about Putin’s illegal war,” Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said in a statement.

“The UK Government has alerted international partners and will continue to work closely with allies and media platforms to undermine Russian information operations.”





Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 01 2022 at 3:00am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQQvg86Slk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQQvg86Slk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVQQvg86Slk The Duran; Biden-EU economic policy, 'Lunacy taken to a greater level' The Duran: Episode 1270

DJ In many ways the "west" is run by ONE elite-showing up in limited political parties that have most things/views in common..."powers that be" turning the idea of democracy into "democrazy"...

[url]http://thesaker.is/can-nato-re-arm-ukraine/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/can-nato-re-arm-ukraine/ - http://thesaker.is/can-nato-re-arm-ukraine/ ;

Kiev is Losing Stuff Faster than the West can Send it

by James Tweedie for the Saker Blog

The stated aims of Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine include the de-Nazification and demilitarisation of the Kiev regime.

In opposition, the NATO member states led by the US are arming the Ukraine and its Nazi battalions, while sending thousands of “volunteers”, “advisors” and other mercenaries to fight with the aim of prolonging the war for years.

The question, as always, is who is winning?

In a media briefing on March 25, the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) revealed some of its estimates of Ukrainian military strength before the operation commenced on February 24, focussing on heavy equipment, along with its claims of how much had been destroyed so far.

According to the MoD, Ukraine began the war with 2,416 armoured vehicles — although it did not say how many were main battle tanks (MBTs), infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) or armoured personnel carriers (APCs). The MoD also listed 1,509 field artillery guns and mortars, 535 multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS), 152 fixed-wing aircraft, 149 helicopters, 180 medium- and long-range surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems and 300 radars of various kinds in the Ukrainian inventory.

The MoD’s  https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country.htm" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; background: rgba(240, 240, 230, 0.7); transition: all 0.5s ease 0s; color: rgb(44, 66, 78); padding: 0px 3px; border-bottom: 1px dotted rgb(85, 85, 85); - twice-daily briefings include updates on Ukrainian loses from those equipment stocks. The April 29  https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12419286@egNews" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; background: rgba(240, 240, 230, 0.7); transition: all 0.5s ease 0s; color: rgb(44, 66, 78); padding: 0px 3px; border-bottom: 1px dotted rgb(85, 85, 85); - morning report claimed 2,638 tanks and armoured vehicles destroyed — 222 more than the ministry said the Ukraine started the war with. On top of that are the many reports of Russian troops or Donbass militia capturing Ukrainian equipment intact or repairable and putting it back into service for themselves.

Two-thirds of the Ukrainian air force’s helicopters and four-fifths of its fighter and attack jets are gone as well, according to Moscow, along with most of its anti-aircraft weapons. Even the US Department of Defence’s spokesman admitted in mid-April that the UAF had less than 20 aircraft in late March. And Ukraine does not have a navy anymore.

And most importantly to the Russian way of warfare, the MoD claims to have knocked out almost 1,200 Ukrainian artillery pieces and over 300 MLRS units. Meanwhile the Russian air and missile forces have crippled the Ukraine’s ability to replace those losses, destroying factories and repair centres.

Either the MoD under-estimated Ukrainian strength had to start with, or is over-claiming (which always happens in war) or the heavy gear sent by NATO is starting to turn up on the battlefield.

The Ukrainian government has made exaggerated claims of Russian casualties and losses but is very reticent about its own, admitting to only 3,000 soldiers killed and a handful taken prisoner so far.

Russia is also guilty of the old US sin of publishing body-counts. On  https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12417646@egNews" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; background: rgba(240, 240, 230, 0.7); transition: all 0.5s ease 0s; color: rgb(44, 66, 78); padding: 0px 3px; border-bottom: 1px dotted rgb(85, 85, 85); - April 16 the MoD claimed Ukraine had suffered 23,367 “irreplaceable” casualties. The  https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12417766@egNews" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; background: rgba(240, 240, 230, 0.7); transition: all 0.5s ease 0s; color: rgb(44, 66, 78); padding: 0px 3px; border-bottom: 1px dotted rgb(85, 85, 85); - next day it stated that of the 6,824 foreign mercenaries who came to fight for Kiev, Russian forces had “eliminated” 1,035, while 912 had fled the country and 4,877 were still hanging around like a bad smell.

Looking on the Bright Side…

Some Western “military analysts” asserted before the war that the Ukrainian forces had  https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/850-obsolete-tanks-can-t-stop-russia-ukraine-chose-sheer-numbers-over-modernisation-and-suffered" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; background: rgba(240, 240, 230, 0.7); transition: all 0.5s ease 0s; color: rgb(44, 66, 78); padding: 0px 3px; border-bottom: 1px dotted rgb(85, 85, 85); - 820-850 tanks , mostly old T-64s left over from the dissolution of the USSR in 1991. If one assumes a ratio of three APCs or IFVs to every MBT, then the Ukraine had about 2,500 infantry carriers and 3,400 armoured vehicles in total.

NATO states were already pouring arms into the Ukraine for years before the conflict escalated, and have sped up the deliveries since then. The US says it has provided 200 M113 APCs, 100 armoured Humvee utility vehicles, 90 M777 155mm howitzers with 183,000 rounds of ammunition, 16 Mi-17 helicopters, enough parts to return 20 derelict Ukrainian aircraft to service and 7,000 Javelin anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs). Canada has given four more howitzers.

The UK has sent or pledged 120 APCs, including 80 Mastiff (MRAP) and a “small number” of Alvis Stormer HVM armoured short-range SAM carriers. France is training 40 Ukrainian soldiers to man the CAESAR truck-mounted 155mm howitzers it is donating. Since each vehicle has a crew of five, we can assume that Paris is sending just eight guns. Australia is sending 20 Bushmaster Protected Mobility Vehicles, another lightly-armoured truck.

Poland has sent over 200 Soviet-built T-72 tanks and several dozen BMP-1 IFVs, while the Czech Republic sent a mix of 40 T-72s and BMP-1s. Slovakia donated a single S-300 SAM battery. The Ukrainians actually know how to operate and maintain these things, and have the right calibre ammunition for them.

German arms giant Rheinmetall has volunteered 88 old Leopard 1 tanks and 100 Marder IFVs it has in its stocks.

But most of this stuff is useless, starting with the much-vaunted Javelin missiles which failed to penetrate the latest explosive-reactive armour (ERA) blocks fitted to Russian tanks. Many of the armoured vehicles being donated belong in museums.

The M113 APC is a design from the 1950s that first saw combat in the Vietnam War, where it immediately proved to be a deathtrap. It is a tall, boxy, slab-sided vehicle with armour made from aluminium, not steel. It was so vulnerable to the anti-tank weapons used by the People’s Army of Vietnam (PAVN) back in the 1960s that US soldiers preferred to ride on the roof than inside it.

The Leopard 1 is another relic of the ‘60s, kind of the tank equivalent of the VW camper van. Its design was based on a prevailing belief that armour had lost the race to shaped-charge anti-tank warheads, so tanks should be made light and fast. Its 70mm-thick frontal armour is no match for modern ATGMs and that can punch through 700mm or more of solid steel.

The armoured Humvees and Mastiffs were used by US and British troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. They are designed only to protect their occupants from rifle and machine-gun fire and home-made roadside bombs during ambushes by lightly-armed guerrillas, not to stand up to tanks.

An IFV is distinct from an APC in mounting heavy armament to support the troops it carries in combat. APCs are just “battle taxis” to get troops close to where the fighting is without taking casualties from random artillery shell fragments and stray machine gun fire on the way, then get back out of range. The Ukraine’s arms industry was already making its own vehicles like the Mastiff until Russian cruise missiles wrecked its factories.

These lightly-armoured vehicles will not prevent many casualties on the Ukrainian side, or cause any to the Russians. The weapons carried by Russian armour and attack helicopters can make mincemeat of them. Photos and videos of the war show Ukraine’s more-sophisticated Russian-made IFVs literally torn apart and incinerated by modern ATGMs or tank gun rounds.

The M777, the US Army’s main field gun, is made in Britain. The huge and legendary US arms industry of Colt, Remington and Winchester nowadays seems incapable of making a simple gun that goes bang reliably.

A Losing Battle

Even if the equipment coming in from the West was any good, there is still clearly not enough of it to keep up with the rate of attrition. The 560 tanks and APCs sent or pledged so far are just a fifth of what Russia claims to have already destroyed, and the 98 extra howitzers are less than a tenth of the artillery Ukraine has lost.

DJ a total derailed "elite" filling their own corrupt pockets...

[url]https://twitter.com/baronichitas/status/1520446668331790337[/url] or https://twitter.com/baronichitas/status/1520446668331790337 - https://twitter.com/baronichitas/status/1520446668331790337 ;

Even the most optimistic Ukraine enthusiast could only claim during Phase 1 that Russian/Ukrainian attrition was roughly equal (and I still suspect this is wrong). The balance in attrition has shifted dramatically to Russia's advantage in Phase 2.

DJ Another endless war...not that far from where I live...12 hour car ride...Lots of people killed for the interests of a corrupt elite...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 12:23am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5IUtMXklA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5IUtMXklA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5IUtMXklA Alexander Mercouris/AM;As Russia Advances in Donbass West 'Seeks Victory' in Ukraine, Inviting Disaster Instead News Topic 483

in short;

AM comparing present Ukraine war with the Vietnam-war. The west breaking agreements-stopping elections in South Vietnam because Ho Tji Minh would win (DJ Ho Thi Minh in my opinion was a nationalist-becoming a communist later on-to get support. He did ask Wilson in 1919 for US support in de-colonization; Vietnam independence from France...Wilson did not want to speak with him...).

In Vietnam first weapons-then "advisors/instructors" were send-same as now in Ukraine..."boots on the ground" is a next step...

AM also mentioning the west blocking the outcome of Ukraine-Russia talks in Turkey. The west wanted "to weaken Russia" and would supply Ukraine with "loads of weapons"-if Ukraine would be willing to go on fighting...

The result now is hundreds of Ukraine soldiers killed each day...Most of the heavy weapons do not get to any frontline-Ukraine is out of fuel...

Still western "hardliners" push for more war...(DJ, I did expect that kind of insanity both from biden and bojo...In Germany "the green party" does not seem to give a thing about the enviroment-utter stupidity...I find the greens-I had sympathy for them-a total disaster...). 

DJ [url]https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad[/url] or https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad - https://twitter.com/GDarkconrad did see a plane flying from Brussel to Moscow....I think even NATO now may be looking for a way out...

The alternative [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/take-note-they-re-all-laying-the-groundwork-we-are-in-danger[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/take-note-they-re-all-laying-the-groundwork-we-are-in-danger - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/take-note-they-re-all-laying-the-groundwork-we-are-in-danger is unacceptable...

AM is correct that the Ukraine war in some ways also is a civil war between "Ukraine nationalists" and post-Soviet ethnic Russians (DJ-and lots of other minorities, Polish, Greek, Jewish...). The internal terror inside Ukraine may signal the weakening position of the Kiev-neo-nazi US puppets...

Relations between (this) west and DJ-the rest of the world-have been severely damaged. A neo-colonial "global NATO" is very unwelcome...but some "leaders"do not understand that...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/buchanan-will-putin-submit-us-imposed-weakening[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/buchanan-will-putin-submit-us-imposed-weakening - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/buchanan-will-putin-submit-us-imposed-weakening ;

Will Putin accept a U.S.-induced permanent reduction in Russia’s standing as a great nation? Or would Russia resort to weapons that could avoid that fate and avoid as well the long and debilitating “forever war” some Americans want to impose on his country?

If we are going to bleed Russia into an irreversible strategic decline, is Putin a ruler of the mindset to go quietly into that good night?

Are Putin & Co. bluffing with this implied nuclear threat?

When Georgia invaded South Ossetia in 2008, Putin’s Russian army reacted instantly, ran the Georgians out and stormed into Georgia itself.

When the U.S. helped to overthrow the pro-Russian government in Kyiv in 2014, Russia plunged in and took Crimea, the Sevastopol naval base, and Luhansk and Donetsk.

When Ukraine flirted with joining NATO and Biden refused to rule out the possibility, Putin invaded in February.

When he warns of military action, Putin has some credibility.

And in this talk of using tactical atomic weapons to prevent the defeat, humiliation and diminution of Russia itself, is Vladimir Putin bluffing?

DJ, The west is running out of means for longer-conventional war...Also the biden-goal is not only regime change in Moscow...

I do not have any doubt Russia-Iran-China are in constant dialogue...Other countries, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicarague also will be involved in some ways...

If the "west" wants "total war" it can get one...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 02 2022 at 11:30pm

DJ

Good info from AFP/Swiss source [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraines-army-is-in-very-bad-state-more-fighting-will-only-destroy-it.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraines-army-is-in-very-bad-state-more-fighting-will-only-destroy-it.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraines-army-is-in-very-bad-state-more-fighting-will-only-destroy-it.html ...other sources indicate losses of Ukraine are even higher-for armored cars etc. then Ukraine even had in total when the war started...Meaning western supplies do not last long...A lot of the "fighting" is done by 40+ olds-with hardly any trained military staff...Lots of them die due to shelling...never even had a chance to use a gun...

Some claims go to Ukraine losses close to 30.000 "soldiers". Zelensky and his "gang' already have a UK passport...There is NO control on where the "financial aid" "for Ukraine" ends up...given the high level of corruption it will end up in corrupt politician bank accounts...

DJ-Hal Turner is not "the best source" but [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/canadian-army-lt-general-allegedly-captured-in-mariupol-ukraine[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/canadian-army-lt-general-allegedly-captured-in-mariupol-ukraine - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/canadian-army-lt-general-allegedly-captured-in-mariupol-ukraine ;

Unconfirmed reports, from various sources in Ukraine and Russia, claim that Canadian Forces Lt. General Trevor Cadieu has been captured by Russian Forces in Mariupol.

His capture allegedly occurred while he was attempting to escape the encircled Azovstal steel mill facility, through a sewer pipe.

If this report is confirmed, readers should be aware this guy is no average grunt going on an adventure. He was a Brigadier General and “retired” days before being promoted to the highest role in the Army.

 

UPDATE 9:43 AM EDT --

Additional unconfirmed CLAIMS have now surfaced which allege Lt. General Trevor Cadieu has been taken to Moscow to stand trial. He was also ALLEGEDLY in charge of Biolab No. 1, where 18 people worked with deadly viruses.

is in line with other claims of "a lot of NATO advisors/instructors/special forces in Ukraine...If he stands trial in Moscow no doubt the Russians will "spread the news"....

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-s-gazprom-and-the-yamal-europe-pipeline-big-news[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-s-gazprom-and-the-yamal-europe-pipeline-big-news - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-s-gazprom-and-the-yamal-europe-pipeline-big-news ;

Russia's Gazprom has not booked any capacity via the Yamal pipeline for Q3 (July, August, and September).

That translates into a complete shutdown of all Russia gas shipments to Europe just as summer ends and autumn begins.  If this remains the case, Europe would have to rely upon its reserves for October, November, and December - which NOT ONE European country has enough stored natural gas to do!

As it stands right now, many Europeans will freeze to death this coming winter, and much of Europe may not even have electricity because the power plants need natural gas to generate electric.

Clearly someone sees all-out-war on the horizon and are planning accordingly to deal with the enemy.

DJ, We do not have "very cold winters" that often...but economic damage will be very major...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-informs-taiwan-howitzer-delivery-delay-due-crowded-production-line[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-informs-taiwan-howitzer-delivery-delay-due-crowded-production-line - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-informs-taiwan-howitzer-delivery-delay-due-crowded-production-line ;

Taiwan has confirmed that US weapons systems slated for delivery have been delayed. It's being widely viewed as directly related to the ongoing war in Ukraine, where Washington has committed an unprecedented amount of resources. An official statement cited a "crowded" production line.

“In response to media reports on the case of the M109A6 self-propelled guns arms sale, the Ministry of National Defense said today that the M109A6 arms purchase [by Taiwan] was crowded out in the production line. The US side informs us that this system will not be delivered to the Republic of China until 2026 at the earliest”, the ministry said in a https://mna.gpwb.gov.tw/news/detail/?UserKey=b1b5bb90-d220-4a09-85b7-86d922aed5e3" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - statement posted to its website.

DJ Yet another indication that "western help for Ukraine" is "eating away" western armies...Poland did send 50% of its tanks to Ukraine...The US is sending lots of anti-tank weapons...DJ Smaller arms may reach the frontlines-in civilian cars. But lack of training often results in those weapons not doing the expected job. However there are indications those anti-tank weapons (rocket propelled granates RPG) are effective against Russian low-flying helicopters...Russian tanks often have an "explosive shield"; A granate is stopped by that when it hits the tank-some tanks were hit four times without major damage...Sometimes also nets are used-granates explode when they hit the net-doing less damage to the vehicle...

The main Russian weapons are artillery and missiles...out of reach of Ukraine/NATO fighters...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4A6NVHruw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4A6NVHruw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4A6NVHruw Alex Chrisoforou/AC;May 2, dark day for Odessa. China Gazprom 60% up. EU, no more washing clothes. Update 1 Topic 524

DJ On may 2 2014 Ukraine nazi's did burn 42 ethnic Russians in [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes#Trade_Unions_House_fire[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes#Trade_Unions_House_fire - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes#Trade_Unions_House_fire  

[url]https://rsf.org/en/index[/url] or https://rsf.org/en/index - https://rsf.org/en/index As allways in wars "freedom of press" comes under pressure-lots of "public media" turned into propaganda machines...

DJ Pelosi etc-after visiting Kiev went to Poland...A Polish intervention into Ukraine (R2P-Right to Protect) does not have to be a NATO intervention...

[url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/3-may-russian-missile-shot-down-in-odesa-region-[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/3-may-russian-missile-shot-down-in-odesa-region- - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/3-may-russian-missile-shot-down-in-odesa-region- DJ-I get the impression Russia may start an offensive to take over Nikolayev and Odessa...

DJ-For me the big ???? is what plans do China, Iran have...whatother allies are involved in the "global scenario"...

https://twitter.com/ab4justice" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Marco4Justice

Same goes for Iran, Syria...since most-if not all-the non-western world sees this war as "the west" trying to stay in "global power" countries like India, Indonesia, Philippines-all with relative young colonial history in their minds most likely will "not welcome this further western agression to recolonize the world" (via a global NATO). 

For that matter the Ukraine war is only a small segment of a global conflict...and-again-the west is running out of conventional means to fight that war...

The only "tool" left will be the west going for nuclear blackmail...but even that has no chance...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 03 2022 at 3:14am

part 2

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKdJVAo3Jm8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKdJVAo3Jm8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKdJVAo3Jm8 Alexander Mercouris/AM ; Some Civilians Leave Azovstal, Kadyrov Predicts Fall of Popasnaya, EU Splits on Energy Sanctions News Topic 484

DJ Some of his story adds up to other claims; civilians evacuated from Mariupol-Azovstal...linked to Canadian (retired) general now being in Russian hands ? [url]https://apa.az/en/america/russia-captures-commander-of-canadian-army-at-azovstal-375055[/url] or  https://apa.az/en/america/russia-captures-commander-of-canadian-army-at-azovstal-375055 - https://apa.az/en/america/russia-captures-commander-of-canadian-army-at-azovstal-375055

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin%E2%80%93Khabarovsk%E2%80%93Vladivostok_pipeline[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin%E2%80%93Khabarovsk%E2%80%93Vladivostok_pipeline - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin%E2%80%93Khabarovsk%E2%80%93Vladivostok_pipeline "Power-of-Siberia-3" gas pipeline may be finished this summer ? 

AM-Discussed the EU division on an oil-boycot -Europe still willing to buy Russian gas...Alexander Christoforou mentioned China is taking over the gas Russia so far exported to the EU. It is a "seller-market" ; not a "buyers-market"...Russia increasing now energy exports to China, India (oil, coal) and even Indonesia (oil-with Indonesia being in OPEC...)

DJ-Europe will run out of energy this summer. French nuclear plants at only 50% capacity. Lots of other nuclear plants "old" (and some at high-risk[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tihange_Nuclear_Power_Station#Incidents[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tihange_Nuclear_Power_Station#Incidents - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tihange_Nuclear_Power_Station#Incidents to mention a Belgian problem-plant). 

Another of AM remarkrs; Like during the Vietnam war the "west" is coming up with "statistics" showing "the enemy is losing". We all know how it worked out in the Vietnam war...Main stream media-blindly following Ukraine propaganda used as a basis for western decission makers is "bizarre"...[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ghost-kyiv-fighter-ace-fake-news-ukraine-military-admits[/url] or  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ghost-kyiv-fighter-ace-fake-news-ukraine-military-admits - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ghost-kyiv-fighter-ace-fake-news-ukraine-military-admits

AM remarks on the "European Commission" now in a power grab trying to tell EU members where to get there energy also is "bizarre"...In the EU privatized companies decide themselves where to buy what...is the "market idea"...

DJ-Western insanity [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pelosis-victory-rhetoric-during-surprise-trip-kiev-making-some-allies-nervous[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pelosis-victory-rhetoric-during-surprise-trip-kiev-making-some-allies-nervous - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pelosis-victory-rhetoric-during-surprise-trip-kiev-making-some-allies-nervous ;

Europe, which has with the exception of the UK remained consistently more reluctant in what it's willing to do - fearing actions like sending tanks will be seen by Moscow as hugely escalatory - is described by commentary featured in the Times as being dragged into  https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-talk-of-victory-against-russia-has-some-allies-nervous" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - a broader conflict :

There is a sense in Europe that "the US is dragging everyone into a different war", said Professor François Heisbourg, a French defense analyst, citing similar comments by Mr Biden about "the butcher of Moscow" and how "Putin must go". Some wonder what Washington is trying to say – or do.

"To help Ukraine prevail is not about waging war against Russia for reasons related to its governance," Prof Heisbourg said. "Regime change may be a vision but not a war aim."

He and others said that such talk from Washington plays perfectly into Mr Putin's narrative that Nato is waging war against Russia, and that Russia is fighting a defensive war for its survival in Ukraine.

Indeed this has been the fear of many American pundits from the beginning - however which rarely get a platform in mainstream media. Instead, the major networks have tended to feature only the most hawkish voices, even as likely the majority of Americans remain fearful of any potential WW3 scenario.

Like an idea of biden getting into the position to start an US-Russia war on basis of an NBC-event in Ukraine may see lots of other countries trying to increase distance from US/UK hardliners...

DJ-A Polish invasion into western Ukraine could even cause a coup by "nationalists" against Zelensky...Some nationalists were against any attacks on the Donbas-would like to see the Donbas as a place to deport ethnic Russians from Ukraine...(I would not be surprised if Russia would give Ukraine intel on those Polish plans...Ukraine fighting Poland-because the west comes up with R2P-must be a dream for Putin, another nightmare for NATO...). 

DJ-Again looking at the global picture-the west is losing this global confrontation. Again-for most non-western countries "a global NATO, this Ukraine war" are signs of western neo-colonialism. 

Most likely there must be plans on what to do in case of western further escalations. US/NATO-forces moving into Ukraine does main the west will be weaker on other fronts. 

Two main targets;

-Western energy/logistics is the western weakspot

-More isolated western allies (Israel, US forces in the middle east) may face "major conflict". 

Growing unease/unrest in lots of western countries facing inflation going up, a pandemic not over, censorship...Protests (part may 1) in Germany, France, UK...Propaganda may not be that effective...Regime change in Moscow is not high on the list for most western citizens...biden is seen more and more as "biggest disaster"...people do not blame Putin for EU/US sanctions pushing up prices...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 04 2022 at 2:27am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGYyfJ57RPk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGYyfJ57RPk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGYyfJ57RPk Alexander Mercouris/AM;Ukraine Rejects Negotiations with Russia, Demands 'Total Surrender', Russia Continues Donbass Offensive News Topic 485

DJ it is more then sad to see history repeating itself. AM in short; 

-Western promisses of "new weapons" "game changers" made the Zelensky-clan stop any further talks with russia

-Russia may have to give up any illusions on western compromises (DJ-The west wants Russian oil and gas)

-Western "policy" based on its own propaganda...selfdelussion; game changer weapons did not work in South Vietnam, Iraq...(DJ-Germany WW2)

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/democrats-the-ukraine-war-is-over-lets-talk-abortion-rights.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/democrats-the-ukraine-war-is-over-lets-talk-abortion-rights.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/democrats-the-ukraine-war-is-over-lets-talk-abortion-rights.html ;

The war to 'weaken Russia' is going badly for the 'west' and the U.S. can do little to change that. The midterm election will likely see a huge loss for the Democrats. They need an emotional issue to incentivize their voters to go to the polls. Abortion rights may do that for a certain group of voters.

But I find it unlikely that it will, over all, be of much help.

"It's the economy, stupid" said James Carville, a strategist for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential election campaign. Prices are rising, especially for gas and food, while the housing market is suffering from upcoming higher interest rates. The U.S. will, like Europe, likely to go into a recession.

It is also obvious that the Democrats have no real interest in protecting abortion rights. They could have done so when they held the presidency, and majorities in the House and Senate. They never launched a serious attempt to put Roe vs. Wade into federal law. It always suited them better to keep the issue open and to use it during each election for fundraising and to scare their voters to the polls.

DJ, AM mentions nuclear weapons are the only "game changers"...Russia did find a way to limit its own losses while destroying the Ukraine/NATO army...There are rumours of Poland sending in troops...but with lots of infrastructure in western Ukraine destroyed Poland may "think twice". There may be some sort of "International Brigade" ready in Poland, US-led but also there is a limit to what they may be able to do. Most likely Ukraine nationalists do not want Polish forces in parts of Ukraine that once were part of Poland; those Polish forces "may stay longer" then Ukraine wants. 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/kiev-receiving-intel-from-israeli-mossad[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/kiev-receiving-intel-from-israeli-mossad - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/kiev-receiving-intel-from-israeli-mossad ; 

Ukraine has begun to receive intelligence from the Mossad.

Kyiv claims that the Israeli intelligence service is one of the best in the world and will allow the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to receive more intelligence about the plans of the Russian Armed Forces as part of a special operation in Ukraine. 

That Kiev is now boasting this does not bode well for Israeli-Russian relations.

Watch for Israeli jets over Lebanon, attacking Syria, to suddenly suffer being shot down. . . .

DJ; The western idea was that sanctions and western weapons/advisors would "damage" Russia that much there could be some sort of anti-Putin uprising. That idea was wrong.

Sanctions are NOT global-de facto most of them just come from NATO-and may even harm NATO countries more then they harm Russia. 

Two options;

A. (Secret) talks between the US and Russia; I think via an indirect third country most likely may take place. The west want to pull out but also claim some sort of succes. But Russia-with Iran, China will make major demands.

B. Very major escalations. The west attacking Russian energy sector inside Russia. Destroy Russia-China pipelines, Russian oil/coal export. However this may worsen the global economy. And the EU still is the major buyer of Russian energy...even the US may not have an alternative for some of Russian exports...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/time-nato-better-take-putins-ukraine-warnings-seriously[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/time-nato-better-take-putins-ukraine-warnings-seriously - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/time-nato-better-take-putins-ukraine-warnings-seriously ; One might hope that NATO leaders would have learned an important lesson from such a costly mistake. However, they are stubbornly ignoring a new set of ominous warnings from Moscow, and this time, the price of such tone-deaf arrogance could be utterly catastrophic. Indeed, it is creating the risk of a nuclear clash between Russia and the United States. In his first speech announcing the "special military operation" in Ukraine, Vladimir Putin  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/ukraine-russia-invasion.html" style='box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); font-family: "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, "Liberation Sans", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;'>warned  all outside parties (clearly meaning NATO members) not to interfere. "Anyone who tries to interfere with us . . . must know that Russia’s response will be immediate and will lead you to such consequences as you have never before experienced in your history." [Emphasis added]

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The policy constitutes an extremely risky venture that could make the United States a belligerent in a perilous war. Moscow has declared on multiple occasions that convoys carrying weapons from NATO countries into Ukraine are https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/12/arms-shipments-are-a-legitimate-military-target-kremlin-warns-west" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - legitimate targets of war . Putin could easily interpret the U.S.-orchestrated cascade of NATO weaponry to support Ukraine’s military resistance as unacceptable interference. The same is true of another Biden administration measure – https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/04/politics/us-ukraine-intelligence/index.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - sharing intelligence data with Kyiv, even providing Ukrainian forces with https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2022/03/03/is-the-u-s-providing-ukraine-with-targeting-intel-maybe-00013954" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - real-time targeting information . In one case, that intelligence sharing apparently enabled Ukraine to shoot down a Russian plane https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-intel-helped-ukraine-protect-air-defenses-shoot-russian-plane-carry-rcna26015" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - with several hundred troops aboard .

As they did during the prewar period, NATO countries are https://news.antiwar.com/2022/04/20/ignoring-russias-warnings-us-and-allies-escalate-military-aid-to-ukraine/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - ignoring the warnings coming out of Moscow. Adopting a defiant stance, they instead are boosting their military aid and creating a full-fledged proxy war against Russia. The Kremlin’s warnings are becoming more strident. Putin himself recently admonished NATO members https://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-west-dont-test-110856583.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - not to test Russia’s patience by continuing to escalate their support for Ukraine. Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-in chief of both RT and Sputnik and a close associate of the Russian president, stated that Russia might have https://www.thedailybeast.com/margarita-simonyan-top-kremlin-mouthpiece-says-russia-is-being-forced-into-using-nukes-in-ukraine?source=articles&via=rss" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - little choice except to use nuclear weapons if Western policy continues on its current course.

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In an April 27 Wall Street Journal op-ed, former deputy undersecretary of the Navy Seth Cropsey even emphasized that the United States must be prepared to https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-us-show-it-can-win-a-nuclear-war-russia-putin-ukraine-nato-sarmat-missile-testing-warning-11651067733" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - demonstrate that it would "win" a nuclear war against Russia. Other hawks pressure the Biden administration https://www.cracknewz.com/2022/03/mark-levin-we-cannot-allow-nuclear.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - not to give in to Russia’s "nuclear blackmail." They seem serenely oblivious to the probable consequences if they are wrong. Two analysts even scorned the administration for being excessively fearful of a https://dailycaller.com/2022/04/19/kolb-horowitz-biden-nuclear-caution-today-means-cosmic-nuclear-proliferation-tomorrow/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - direct "skirmish" with Russia, as though a clash with a major nuclear power would be the equivalent of a dust-up on a middle school playground. Unfortunately, the policies that Washington is pursuing by pouring arms into Ukraine and creating a proxy war against Russia suggest that administration policymakers may be nearly as clueless as the ultra-hawks outside government to the dangers.

Western officials and members of the foreign policy establishments in the United States and Europe speak openly of helping Ukraine https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-win-war-russia-u-095726571.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - win its war and inflict a https://news.yahoo.com/us-officials-promise-more-military-070006577.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - humiliating defeat on Russia. What such individuals do not seem to comprehend is that Ukraine is a vital Russian security interest, and the Kremlin will do whatever is necessary – probably even the use of tactical nuclear weapons – to prevent a defeat. The failure to understand just how important Ukraine is to Russia caused Western leaders to disregard Moscow’s warnings over more than a decade against making Kyiv a military ally. For the same reason, they seem to be making an even more dangerous blunder by ignoring Putin’s latest warning about making Ukraine a pawn in a NATO proxy war against Russia. It is imperative to take the new warnings very seriously and back away from a looming war with potentially horrific consequences.

DJ-The bigger picture is "China, Iran, Syria are next"....Like climate change, the pandemic this Ukraine war is a dead-end-street. 

So far China did go for an economic war [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gen-milley-warns-congress-chances-war-russia-or-china-increasing-not-decreasing[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gen-milley-warns-congress-chances-war-russia-or-china-increasing-not-decreasing - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/gen-milley-warns-congress-chances-war-russia-or-china-increasing-not-decreasing but it should be clear most non-western countries fear a "global-NATO" neo-colonialism. 

DJ-I expect the "energy war" to further escalate with "accidents" (sabotage) of storage/pipelines/tankers both from Russia-Iran-China and NATO. There is a risk of a "false flag" but the US may think twice about sending in US military fighting Russia...Even with Ukraine pushing for further escalations. 

The US idea that Ukraine-2022 "has to like like" Iraq 2003 is wrong ! Russia did not plan to take over all of Ukraine...most likely the outcome of this war will be a destroyed small "Ukraine" with Russia taking over the east and south. (Poland a.o. maybe later on going for their land-grab; after the Ukraine is defeated). 

Looking how the west "ended wars" in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria the Ukraine war will become "another frozen conflict" wich stopped EurAsian integration...but did see an Asian cooperation even more bad for western global domination. India, Vietnam, Indonesia buying Russian energy, Saudi Arabia selling oil for Yuan. 

[url]https://southfront.org/deteriorating-israeli-russian-relations-a-cautionary-message-for-the-uae-saudi-arabia-and-turkey/[/url] or https://southfront.org/deteriorating-israeli-russian-relations-a-cautionary-message-for-the-uae-saudi-arabia-and-turkey/ - https://southfront.org/deteriorating-israeli-russian-relations-a-cautionary-message-for-the-uae-saudi-arabia-and-turkey/ The room for staying out of the conflict is "under pressure". DJ-My guess is that the Asia-market is very tempting...Turkey may go for good relations with Iran and Russia-to increase her influence in central Asia. The EU closed its doors for Turkey...the US even went for a coup...(may do that again...Russia saved Erdogan during the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt ). 

The Gulf-states and Iran are having "talks", just like Assad/Syria is having talks with Turkey/Erdogan. The US coup against 

https://mobile.twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Imran Khan

is NOT the "success" the US hoped it will be. The Pakistan elite is going for national interests above US ones...So China is important, TIP-Turkey-Iran-Pakistan cooperation is important. From fertilizers to energy the US does not have a better offer then Asian countries (mainly Russia) have...The Pakistan military elite is split-but could unite on "national interests above foreign ones"...

As AM also mentions; "the west" is facing unrest. France may see a PM that is against NATO expansionism. Germany, UK face major crises. In the US biden "is losing ground"...

The idea of "a long war against Russia"; like sanctions and more weapons, may backfire...

Attacks on Russian energy transports to China may "push China" towards a harder stand. 

The Chinese view...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QsZKSzbdFg[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QsZKSzbdFg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QsZKSzbdFg Alex Christoforou/AC ;Russia retaliates, blocks "unfriendly nations." Ukraine wants Russia to capitulate. Update 2 Topic 526 Medvedev thinks that Zelensky does not need ‘any peace treaty’ https://tass.com/politics/1446383

DJ, Friendly nations can get Russian (strategic) goods, enemies no longer...So fertilizer, energy will go to Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, Nicaragua, South Africa, China, India, Vietnam, Indonesia....AC from beautifull Cyprus...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 04 2022 at 10:33pm

DJ,

History is "not nice"....I can understand that in the world before WW2 facing a choice on "who to work with" hitler became "Time "man of the year 1938" instead of stalin...There is lots of historical proof of "who funded" the nazi's; and also the "why" has several answers; From royals seeking revenge-via Germany-on the Soviet murderers of the czar. The czar + family was related to a lot of European royals...The "Russian revolution" was november 1917-hitler came to power january 1933 ( in a "democratic way"; a coalition of central/right wing parties. The nazi's never did get a majority of votes in Germany.)

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/on-lavrovs-spat-with-israel-who-is-right.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/on-lavrovs-spat-with-israel-who-is-right.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/on-lavrovs-spat-with-israel-who-is-right.html and YES-like it or not-hitler had a Jewish grandfather...

Western companies often kept working for/in Germany; from IBM [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust to General Motors building tanks in Colone..(not being bombed because it was US-company property). Coca Cola ; [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanta[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanta - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanta ;Fanta originated in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Germany - Germany  as a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Coca-Cola - Coca-Cola  substitute in 1940 due to the American  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_embargo" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Trade embargo - trade embargo  of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Nazi Germany - Nazi Germany  which affected the availability of Coca-Cola ingredients. Fanta soon dominated the German market with three million cans sold in 1943

So-YES...do I have to mention the Bush-family making a lot of nazi-profits ? Nazi's being beaten in 1945-NATO starting in 1949...the same supporters...

Of corse-if I believe I could now say things like this in public- I would be very wrong...The main reason why people do not learn from history is that they do not want to know their history....Lots of rich people in "the west" did get rich via slave-trade just six generations back...War is also a very fast way to make lots of money; just do not have any morals...

So [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOVfiosFWeA[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOVfiosFWeA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOVfiosFWeA Alex Christoforou/CF; Pelosi says "WE" are fighting Russia. Overnight missile strikes. Hi, My name is Javelina. Update 1 Topic 527 The Supreme Court is Working for Putin!!!! https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/...

some points ;

-US claims of "Ukraine is winning" is based on what Ukraine is claiming

-Ukraine now even sending 15 y/o boys (from the west of Ukraine) up to 60 y/o to "fight Russia" in the Donbas...some indications for mass surrender; lots of Ukraine military now in civilian clothes

-Still pelosi (82) "we" are fighting Russia..

-Biden (79, dementia) "battle of democracy against authoritarianism"-so "we" against Russia, Iran, China...(DJ-Iran may bring in Israel; so far more neutral in the conflict with Russia). 

-biden claiming Ukrainians naming their children after an anti-tank weapon will be based on "Ukraine info"...

DJ-AC is correct; we are being dragged into a much wider war-DJ-with mid term elections in november the "democrats" idea is to have won that war before those elections ???

Israel may get its war against Iran-if it supports the US (and NATO "slaves") in the war with Russia. Poland and Romania "may get parts of western Ukraine, Moldova" if they move into Ukraine to fight Russia...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/worlds-largest-shipper-warns-about-stagflation-and-china-shutdowns[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/worlds-largest-shipper-warns-about-stagflation-and-china-shutdowns - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/worlds-largest-shipper-warns-about-stagflation-and-china-shutdowns  

DJ-biden is a total global disaster....The west following this man must have gone insane....

-The western economy will crash 

-The "global south" will need lots of support; food, water, medical...Asia may be able to provide it-but not if "the biden-west" is going for global war...

-Germany not able to send much more weapons to Ukraine-running low. Poland did send 50% (+) of its tank to Ukraine...with western weapon-producers NOT having access to materials needed to make more "better" weapons

-Russia destroying infrastructure in Ukraine to unable transport (DJ-If Poland and Romania go for war-they will see the same. Infrastructure/energy destroyed in the first days of escalation).

The only "biden-option" is to go nuclear...

DJ-The price for the west is going up..."we have not seen even the beginning". Since biden made clear de facto ALL countries not supporting him are enemies the west soon may find out what economic war can bring. 

The pentagon may be one of the places in the US that may "limit the insanity"...enough military aware of the need to avoid a nuclear war. It is sad to see "insanity is winning" alternative voices being silenced (paypall no longer cooperating, "social media bans"...next step killing alternative reporters ?)

DJ Zerohedge has some good info; But it is part of a "republican-democratic-fight" often-and I want to keep that far away from me. [url]https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/03/the-supreme-court-is-working-for-putin/[/url] or https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/03/the-supreme-court-is-working-for-putin/ - https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/03/the-supreme-court-is-working-for-putin/  

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/banks-in-ukraine-stealing-account-holder-money-no-withdrawals[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/banks-in-ukraine-stealing-account-holder-money-no-withdrawals - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/banks-in-ukraine-stealing-account-holder-money-no-withdrawals DJ-Ukraine may be close to collapse (Afghanistan scenario...major difference Ukraine borders NATO...so East Europeans may be send in.)

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/switzerland-setting-up-crisis-centers-anticipating-no-electricity-after-russian-natural-gas-embargo[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/switzerland-setting-up-crisis-centers-anticipating-no-electricity-after-russian-natural-gas-embargo - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/switzerland-setting-up-crisis-centers-anticipating-no-electricity-after-russian-natural-gas-embargo DJ; No Russian energy going west is no power in that west....

DJ By pushing Israel in "NATO lines" the west has-again-a growing problem with the Arab world...It is the west that is now not only isolating itself but also destroying itself...



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 05 2022 at 2:22am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGvO8b-tiaM[/url] or  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGvO8b-tiaM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGvO8b-tiaM  

Fox News host gives his take on the real motivation behind U.S. involvement in the Russia-Ukraine conflict on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.' #FoxNews #Tucker

DJ, US claiming to have (helped) shooting down a Russian transport plane, killing Russian generals....I know tucker is a trump-supporter; but this regime change war is because of "Russia stealing the 2016 US elections"....

DJ-Expecting US regime change in Russia, China will not see nuclear war in my opinion is unrealistic...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhoWNyv0unQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhoWNyv0unQ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhoWNyv0unQ ;Former presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard claimed President Biden essentially called millions of Americans 'terrorists' on 'Hannity.'

DJ-Countries have to follow US-biden-orders, but also people are forced by the biden junta to "follow bidens claims"..."Democrazy attacking democracy"! Freedom of speech, freedom to form your own opinion are the basics of democracy. In "democrazy" their is no room for different views...questioning a "global NATO" or the level of democracy in Ukraine...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W0iOKmR16I[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W0iOKmR16I - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W0iOKmR16I WION ;Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov claimed that Adolf Hitler had Jewish origins, enraging the government of Israel. Where did this conspiracy theory come from? Why is Russia antagonising 'neutral' Israel? Palki Sharma tells you.

DJ WION (India) claiming there is no proof of hitler having a Jewish grandfather. [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/on-lavrovs-spat-with-israel-who-is-right.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/on-lavrovs-spat-with-israel-who-is-right.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/on-lavrovs-spat-with-israel-who-is-right.html has a different view. WION mentions the Iran conflict...DJ-I think biden promissed Israel US support for war against Iran-later on-if Israel would join the US-now-against Russia (and China...).

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dflWiRhKYaw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dflWiRhKYaw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dflWiRhKYaw Alexander Mercouris/AM;Russia Aims for Multiple Encirclements in Donbass as EU Aims to Ban Russian Oil News Topic 486

DJ biden is pushing for global war against Russia, China, Iran no doubt North Korea, Cuba etc also on the list...to "spread his form of democrazy"...Quite a lot of US citizens think biden did steal the election in 2020...others believe trump did steal the 2016 election...There is something very wrong in US presidential elections-we also had Gore/Bush election "problems"...starting global war is NOT solving US democracy problems ! 

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Russians With Attitude

attack on free speech going global ! (And Russia, China do NOT have free speech-that is no reason to even further limit free speech in the west !).

...but Ukraine is a democracy...there are no nazi-terrorists there...just like IS in Syria; "freedom loving terrorists with NATO weapons"...

this is an act of war-if it is true - but you do not joke on this...Russia has hypersonic nuclear weapons "we"can NOT stop !

Climate change ? Blame Russia ! Brexit ? Russia ! Trump ? Russia ! Inflation ? Russia ! bidens dementia...? Russia ? Why does "free pres" go for this ? 

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- John Pilger
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DJ; I try to be critical on what I write here...and I hate what I am seeing...a world gone mad and on the brink of an avoidable disaster !

Wake me up-because this is a nightmare !



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 12:19am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7MOsliXbtc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7MOsliXbtc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7MOsliXbtc Alex Christoforou on Cyprus AC; EU sanctions Orthodox faith. Shoigu warns NATO. Modi leaves Europe. Sulky Liver Sausage. Update 1 Topic 528

DJ Most likely history may show "fools do a lot of damage to themselves" in conflicts. In W.W.2 some of the German mistakes-in my opinion-were; -invading NL;losing a lot of transportplanes/paratroopres that much it hindered the German invasion plans for the UK-besides that in WW1 NL de facto was more of a "neutral" help for Germany...Also switching from bombing radar/airfields in the "battle of Britain" to targetting cities was stupid...If you go for one strategy-that is working-do not switch...Of course invading Russia while-at the same time being in war with the UK/US meant Germany had no chance...

So now "the west" fighting not only Russia-but also a.o. China, Iran...sanctions for the Orthodox Pope-because he is "to close to Putin"...Is this a battle between "pseudo neo-liberalism"-"the rich 0,1%-and the rest of the world ? Sanctions on a religious orthodox leader are stupid...

AC mentions the EU planning in fact on the 50th wave of anti-Russia sanctions since 2014...DJ-NATO did NOT get Crimea-with Sebastopol the base for the Russian navy since the 18th century...Control over Crimea would leave Russia with only major Navy ports in Murmansk and Wladiwostok...more or less kicking Russian navy out of the Atlantic...

MoD of Russia-Shoigu-warned again NATO supplies for Ukraine nazi's will be destroyed, still the US is now training Azov-nazi's in a barracks in Bavaria. That barracks housed German military prior to WW.1 and WW.2 attacks on Russia...

Ukraine ambassador calling the German PM "a sausage"...and Germany accepts that ? 

Russia now also sanctioning Japan. The EU will not allow Russian to buy real estate in the EU-DJ so they now invest in Turkey, UAE a.o.

Kicking Russian tankers out of western insurance only will stimulate a non-western alternative...Modi-India-visited Germany, DK, France and did not give in to western pressure. 

DJ-The "west" may not like it but the rest of the world is seeing the Ukraine war as the outcome of western/NATO/US provocation...

Again-fools are selfdestructive...with "leaders"like biden, bojo, vonderleyden, macron you may not need enemies...(the pandemic may be another indication for that).

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-intel-assisted-sinking-russian-flagship-vessel-officials-say-bombshell-revelation[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-intel-assisted-sinking-russian-flagship-vessel-officials-say-bombshell-revelation - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-intel-assisted-sinking-russian-flagship-vessel-officials-say-bombshell-revelation  

[url]http://thesaker.is/natos-new-world/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/natos-new-world/ - http://thesaker.is/natos-new-world/

and [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/watch-for-the-third-action-then-we-have-only-minutes-until-the-bombs-fall[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/watch-for-the-third-action-then-we-have-only-minutes-until-the-bombs-fall - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/watch-for-the-third-action-then-we-have-only-minutes-until-the-bombs-fall  

DJ-The main enemies for RIC (Russia-Iran-China etc) are the US and UK...So in a nuclear war they will be the main-maybe even only-targets...

End of part 1



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 1:21am

part 2, "the west"

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraines-forces-are-told-to-hold-the-line-where-russian-artillery-is-pulverizing-them.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraines-forces-are-told-to-hold-the-line-where-russian-artillery-is-pulverizing-them.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraines-forces-are-told-to-hold-the-line-where-russian-artillery-is-pulverizing-them.html ;

As Clausewitz https://www.clausewitz.com/opencourseware/Clausewitz-COGexcerpts.htm" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - wrote about the Schwerpunkt in 'On War':

[N]o matter what the central feature of the enemy's power may be—the point on which your efforts must converge—the defeat and destruction of his fighting force remains the best way to begin, and in every case will be a very significant feature of the campaign.

Basing our comments on general experience, the acts we consider most important for the defeat of the enemy are the following:

  1. Destruction of his army, if it is at all significant.
  2. Seizure of his capital if it is not only the center of administration but also that of social, professional, and political activity.
  3. Delivery of an effective blow against his principal ally if that ally is more powerful than he.

Accordingly the Russian military is tasked with demilitarizing the Ukraine, Clausewitz' task one, and that is what it is doing.

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 from yesterday's Christian Science Monitor https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2022/0504/Russian-war-s-Phase-2-How-Ukraine-troops-adapt-giving-little-ground" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - this :

The Ukrainian artillery team was moving into position in the northern Donbas region, along the front line near Izium. The soldiers did not even have time to orient their guns before they were found by a Russian drone.

The first Russian 152 mm shells – fired by howitzers more than 10 miles away – landed near the Ukrainian guns. As the artillery team ran for safety, its vehicle was hit and set on fire.

The driver, badly wounded, veered straight into bushes as shells rained down. The survivors escaped on foot, across open fields.

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“When Russia sends incoming 200 shells, we send back 10 shells,” says Sergeant Davydov, who wears sunglasses, a pistol on his thigh, and a skull shoulder patch in the blue and yellow colors of the Ukrainian flag.

His job is to take freshly mobilized men to the front “to show them not to be afraid,” and to teach them “how to dig in and make very effective defensive positions” to compensate for the firepower imbalance with Russia.

“I tell them that all they have to do is hold our line, and not retreat,” says Sergeant Davydov. The cost can be high. The sergeant recalls 10 recruits in late April being sent to him one night at 11 p.m. By 6 a.m. two were dead and three wounded by Russian artillery.

"the west" does simply not understand the way Russia is fighting this war...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/possibility-of-talks-between-zelenskyy-and-putin-halted-after-boris-johnson-visit[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/possibility-of-talks-between-zelenskyy-and-putin-halted-after-boris-johnson-visit - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/possibility-of-talks-between-zelenskyy-and-putin-halted-after-boris-johnson-visit ;

Now we have sociopaths who operate out in the open.  

The west can keep feeding the masses PR bullcrap but sooner or later they won't be able to hide the fact that their NATO trained army, supplied with the newest gadgets got smoked. And here's where I see it getting really dangerous.

It's been reported that Russia has only used approximately 10% of it's military. Why not roll in with a massive force and all the latest military equipment.

Russia has only fired a few of the new hypersonic missiles.

Russia understands that once the Ukrainian forces are basically destroyed the only way for the west to continue with it's mad quest to destroy Russia is to involve NATO directly into the conflict.

Russia has most of it's forces waiting for the real war which is just around the corner. Question is can it remain conventional weapons and not go to the nuclear threshold?

It's only a matter of time before Russia officially proclaims that NATO has entered the conflict by proxy and is waging war on Russia.

Putin warned them already about it and no one takes him seriously. But then again no one took him seriously when he warned that continual violations of the Minsk Agreements and lack of Western security guarantees would lead to consequences for Ukrainian statehood.

DJ-I think this war is based on the insane idea that "Putin made trump US president in 2016"....pushing for a "global NATO' with US/UK in control...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-psaki-says-biden-will-continue-call-americans-who-do-not-support-him-extremists[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-psaki-says-biden-will-continue-call-americans-who-do-not-support-him-extremists - https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-psaki-says-biden-will-continue-call-americans-who-do-not-support-him-extremists ; After Joe Biden declared Wednesday that “MAGA is the most extreme political organization” in US history, reporters questioned White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki if Americans should expect that kind of rhetoric to continue, and she said yes.

The west is NOT united ! Some of the dividing lines;

-Cultural-from Poland to the US; there are "orthodox christians/conservatives" to progressive-liberals" basiccally not agreeing on even basic issues. Some groups in the west are "close" to fascism/nazi's-others totally disagree...

-Economic; EU needs Russian oil/gas much more then the US does

-Political; Former colonies now-de facto-turning to Russia, China...India buying Russian oil-very likely soon linked to pipelines both IPI (Iran-India-Pakistan) and from the NW of China also importing gas. 

-Financial; The US$ was used as a weapon...but the EU had hopes the € may be kept out of the conflict...maybe even replace the $...now the € may crash because of US choices/debt..

-Geography; Europe is "a peninsula" of Asia...The East of Europe-Asia-Africa turning away from the EU may not be a US/UK problem...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-natos-pro-putin-ally[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-natos-pro-putin-ally - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-natos-pro-putin-ally (DJ-The article itself is "not very clever"-ignoring US support for (PKK) Kurds in Syria, US coups in Turkey...Hungary-another critical NATO/EU member also "must be wrong" for not doing what the US elite is telling...).

DJ-Not only Ukraine is being "grinded", all of the west is taken with it...HT is WRONG ! in claiming this is a European conflict...in fact this global war is the outcome of US political disfunction. The US presidential election system failing THREE TIMES this century. Western democracies-maybe multi-pary system resulting however in one dominant neo-liberal dogmatism...(The German "greens" killed every hope of change...). Russia may be a multi-party dictatorship, China ruled by the CCP (with several fractions in that Chinese Communist Party-it is NOT North Korea for that matter !) are in a crisis...

Politics is being taken over by carreer politicians-busy for a good job-after their political carreer...Maybe France still will bring change when the #2 and #3 in the presidential elections, nationalists and socialists work together to "limit" Macron "neo-liberal globalism"...In the UK the "United" part more and more is a ? [url]https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/northern-ireland-election-could-fundamentally-alter-the-political-landscape-1.4869484[/url] or https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/northern-ireland-election-could-fundamentally-alter-the-political-landscape-1.4869484 - https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/northern-ireland-election-could-fundamentally-alter-the-political-landscape-1.4869484 with the EU pushing for unification of (EU member) Ireland and welcoming Scotland...

In many ways this "Ukraine war" is a US/UK war against the EU...

And then there is a growing non-allied group...India does want to go for what is best for India...TIP-Turkey-Iran-Pakistan also tried to "balance", as most of Latin America, Africa...NOT following US sanctions against Russia...Now seeing the US-led west turning against them while Russia is offering energy and food at a bargain for its friends.

The RIC cooperation was the outcome of western stupidity, sanctions pushing Russia, Iran, China closer together...More sanctions may result in BRICS + not only Brazil, South Africa, India but also the Philippines, Indonesia, Nigeria, Argentina turning away from "US domination"...

But the west is "blinded" by its own phantasies...[url]https://www.ipkw.nl/nieuws/make-hydrogen-not-war/[/url] or  https://www.ipkw.nl/nieuws/make-hydrogen-not-war/ - https://www.ipkw.nl/nieuws/make-hydrogen-not-war/



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 11:04pm

DJ,

biden bringing "his form of democrazy" serving the 0,1% elite to Asia. Liberating Russian oil and gas, telling China, Iran, Korea to follow US-elite orders...or else....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIaLNJih7U[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIaLNJih7U - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIaLNJih7U ; Scott Ritter and Friends talk about US Tax Payer Dollars funding weapons to the Ukraine

DJ, Scott Ritter I think is very correct; be scared-if not in shock-about US foreign policy pushing for global war...

[url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/6-may-admiral-grigorovichclass-frigate-of-the-russian-navy[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/6-may-admiral-grigorovichclass-frigate-of-the-russian-navy - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/6-may-admiral-grigorovichclass-frigate-of-the-russian-navy  

Black Sea Fleet is reportedly on fire near Zmiiny island in Black Sea. Rescue operation ongoing, multiple aircraft, rescue vessels in the area

see also [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/unconfirmed-video-purportedly-showing-russian-navy-ship-admiral-makarov-on-fire-in-black-sea[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/unconfirmed-video-purportedly-showing-russian-navy-ship-admiral-makarov-on-fire-in-black-sea - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/unconfirmed-video-purportedly-showing-russian-navy-ship-admiral-makarov-on-fire-in-black-sea  

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-may-1st-10th-reports.16397/page-7[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-may-1st-10th-reports.16397/page-7 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/ukraine-russia-may-1st-10th-reports.16397/page-7 also trying to get more info...(defcon very pro-US/NATO). (Claim of ship on fire is false-the ship is in port...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/unconfirmed-video-purportedly-showing-russian-navy-ship-admiral-makarov-on-fire-in-black-sea[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/unconfirmed-video-purportedly-showing-russian-navy-ship-admiral-makarov-on-fire-in-black-sea - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/unconfirmed-video-purportedly-showing-russian-navy-ship-admiral-makarov-on-fire-in-black-sea   The Admiral Makarov is shown above, at port in Sevastopol this morning, safe and sound.   The video and the claims of its destruction, are FALSE DJ More Ukraine lies...).

and 

[url]https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-senate-committee-passes-bill-pressuring-opec-russia-over-high-oil-prices[/url] or https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-senate-committee-passes-bill-pressuring-opec-russia-over-high-oil-prices - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-senate-committee-passes-bill-pressuring-opec-russia-over-high-oil-prices ;

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/www.middleeasteye.net/countries/us" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 118, 175); text-decoration: none; - US Senate committee has passed a bill that could open the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec) and its partners, including  https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/www.middleeasteye.net/countries/russia" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 118, 175); text-decoration: none; - Russia , to lawsuits for collusion on the rise in crude oil prices.

The No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels (Nopec) bill, sponsored by Republican Chuck Grassley and Democrat Amy Klobuchar, passed 17-4 in the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday.

However, it will need to pass the full Senate and House and be signed by President Joe Biden in order to become law.

The bill would change US antitrust law to revoke the sovereign immunity that has long protected Opec and its national oil companies from lawsuits.

By doing so, the US attorney general would then have the power to sue Opec, its members such as  https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/www.middleeasteye.net/countries/saudi-arabia" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 118, 175); text-decoration: none; - Saudi Arabia or its partners like Russia, in federal court on charges including market manipulation.

"I believe that free and competitive markets are better for consumers than markets controlled by a cartel of state-owned oil companies ... competition is the very basis of our economic system," Klobuchar  https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/judiciary-committee-advances-grassleys-bipartisan-nopec-act" style="box-sizing: border-box; background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 118, 175); text-decoration: none; - said  in a statement.

both the Euro and US-$ however are in "crisis" ...The US is telling the rest of the world where to buy what and call that "free market"...

There is NO excuse for again the west supporting fascism and nazism....The way the west is NOT stopping climate collapse, health crises, get the poor (countries) even more poor is "democrazy"...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-no-russia-given-its-financial-nuclear-bombs-if-facing-western-sanctions-beijing[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-no-russia-given-its-financial-nuclear-bombs-if-facing-western-sanctions-beijing - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-no-russia-given-its-financial-nuclear-bombs-if-facing-western-sanctions-beijing ; 

Multiple analysts at Chinese state-linked think tanks and banks have weighed in on the Biden administration's recent threats to punish the world's second-largest economy over China's refusal to condemn Russia's war in Ukraine, and amid US charges that it could be helping Moscow evade sanctions, or even quietly resupplying Putin's military machine (charges which at this point have remained without evidence).

"It is necessary to speed up the construction and external connection of the cross-border yuan clearing system CIPS … [But] the primary choice is to continue to strengthen cooperation with Swift," Wang Yongli, a former vice-president with the Bank of China and a former board member for Swift, was cited as saying in a fresh https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3176397/china-wary-russia-type-sanctions-beijings-financial-nuclear?utm_medium=email&utm_source=cm&utm_campaign=enlz-china&utm_content=20220504&tpcc=enlz-china&UUID=21cfbca7-2c02-4409-9eb5-7e91d0418de9&next_article_id=3176461&article_id_list=3176397,3176461,3176433,3176431,3176469,3176413,3176405,3176453&tc=4&CMCampaignID=d87a3285c7e9dd74a035ce463896e768" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - However, China is taking note and studying its own preparedness and future options in the wake of the US drastic measure of freezing Russia's central bank assets overseas. On this, Yongli underscored to the SCMP that "The huge foreign exchange reserves are hard-won, and they are China’s ‘financial nuclear bombs’ with a powerful deterrent effect. It must be used properly rather than arbitrarily, and cannot be easily slashed." 

[url]https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3176397/china-wary-russia-type-sanctions-beijings-financial-nuclear?module=spotlight&pgtype=homepage[/url] or https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3176397/china-wary-russia-type-sanctions-beijings-financial-nuclear?module=spotlight&pgtype=homepage - https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3176397/china-wary-russia-type-sanctions-beijings-financial-nuclear?module=spotlight&pgtype=homepage  

DJ A expect a "second front" [url]https://southfront.org/casualties-reported-after-attack-by-isis-terrorists-on-syrian-army-position-near-us-occupied-al-tanf/[/url] or https://southfront.org/casualties-reported-after-attack-by-isis-terrorists-on-syrian-army-position-near-us-occupied-al-tanf/ - https://southfront.org/casualties-reported-after-attack-by-isis-terrorists-on-syrian-army-position-near-us-occupied-al-tanf/ in the Middle East. 

A few other points;

-Poland could get "more involved"; [url]https://southfront.org/polish-president-declared-erasure-of-borders-with-ukraine-preparing-for-war-with-russia/[/url] or https://southfront.org/polish-president-declared-erasure-of-borders-with-ukraine-preparing-for-war-with-russia/ - https://southfront.org/polish-president-declared-erasure-of-borders-with-ukraine-preparing-for-war-with-russia/ ; 

President Andrzej Duda has announced the common future for Poland and Ukraine, calling it not an occupation, but “the erasure of borders.”

“There will be no more border between our countries — Poland and Ukraine. There will be no such border! So that we live together on this earth, building and rebuilding together our common happiness and common strength, which will allow us to repel any danger or any possible threat,” Duda said.

However, the Polish president did not explain what exactly is meant by the elimination of borders.

DJ, n.pelosi and some other US "politicians/MIC-shareholders" visited Kiev and the Poland recently. 

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- Gonzalo Lira

and 

is also unclear.  Medvedev trying to get a Polish-Ukraine conflict ? 

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- Gonzalo Lira

There are (still) no signs for de-escalation. If the US (NATO) would try to get a "no-fly-zone" over Ukraine-again-for Asia the sign US pushing for all out war...

DJ-I think "Ukraine" is a "job" Russia can handle...no need for (military) aid from China, Iran etc. An open US (NATO) attack will see "Asia" react. 

-In Ukraine itself;

https://twitter.com/timand2037" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- tim anderson

and 

DJ, With supply-lines broken, shortage of everything (food, water, munition, info) on the frontlines, older men send to die for a corrupt nazi-Kiev-regime, it is very likely the Zelensky-western puppet regime is near collapse. Polish, Romanian forces moving into western Ukraine-not likely to leave-may further destroy Ukraine...The west may need another puppet...

(I have to watch the "Alex"-video's still-discuss it later on...)

end of part 1



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 06 2022 at 11:52pm

part 2

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRr--tSgTnk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRr--tSgTnk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRr--tSgTnk Alex Christoforou AC; Media wants WW3. Boris & Scholz believe Elensky will defeat Putin. Ukraine petrol shortage. Update 1 Topic 529

discussing in part also [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/us-pushes-fake-stories-to-goad-russia-into-escalation.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/us-pushes-fake-stories-to-goad-russia-into-escalation.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/us-pushes-fake-stories-to-goad-russia-into-escalation.html  

DJ-Basic story; US did not need to provide info to Ukraine. Russia is that weak Ukraine is shooting Russian planes, generals, ships without any major western help. So - if "WE" - move in Russia will be beaten in no time. AC even mentions UK "MoD" Ben Wallace; Ukraine forces can train UK forces because Ukraine is beating Russia...

German "PM" scholz expecting Russia to collapse-via MORE western sanctions and MORE western military help for Ukraine-but "NATO has to avoid open war" with Russia...

AC mentioning reports from Ukraine of shortages of fuel, logistics break down...DJ-Still a 'western political/media elite" keeps pushing Ukraine lies..."with a bit more sanctions' "some more weapons"...fact is Russian inflation is going down. Russia is shifting its exports to Asia...The west is running into economic problems. 

Sending more East-Europeans to die in Ukraine is making matters worse...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NBRAZvuA6c[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NBRAZvuA6c - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NBRAZvuA6c Alexander Mercouris/AM; How Donbass Militias Play Major Role in Ground War, EU Oil Sanctions Encounter Stiffening Resistance News Topic 488

DJ,

-Eastern Europe not happy with "EU-orders" on their energy deals

-Also EU sanctions on orthodox church are not welcomed-veto

-In Ukraine most of the fighting on land done now by Donbas-militia. Russia providing air/artillery, special forces, intel.

-AM notices a growing political gap between a political elite and the voters-most people do not want this war.

DJ-WION-India also mentioning EU thinking twice on Russian oil-because of western pressure on India because of their-so far-very limited energydeals with Russia.

-Scott Ritter mentioned Finland would be breaking a 1949 treaty with the Soviet Union on neutrality if it would join NATO. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Soviet_Treaty_of_1948[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Soviet_Treaty_of_1948 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Soviet_Treaty_of_1948 ;

The Agreement of Friendship, Cooperation, and Mutual Assistance of 1948, also known as the YYA Treaty from the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Finnish language - Finnish Ystävyys-, yhteistyö- ja avunantosopimus (YYA-sopimus) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland-Swedish" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Finland-Swedish - Swedish : Vänskaps-, samarbets- och biståndsavtalet (VSB-avtalet)), was the basis for  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Finland - Finno – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Soviet Union - Soviet relations from 1948 to 1992. It was the main instrument in implementing the Finnish policy called  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paasikivi%E2%80%93Kekkonen_doctrine" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Paasikivi–Kekkonen doctrine - Paasikivi–Kekkonen doctrine .

Under the treaty, which was signed on 6 April 1948, the Soviets sought to deter  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_World" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Western World - Western or  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_II" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Allies of World War II - Allied https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(international)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Power (international) - Powers from attacking the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Soviet Union - Soviet Union through Finnish territory, and the Finns sought to increase Finland's political  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Independence - independence from the Soviet Union. It thus ensured Finland's survival as a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Liberal democracy - liberal democracy in close proximity to strategic Soviet regions, such as the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Peninsula" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Kola Peninsula - Kola Peninsula and the old capital  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Saint Petersburg - Leningrad .

Under the pact, Finland was obliged to resist armed attacks by "Germany or its allies" (in reality interpreted as the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="United States - United States and allies)[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed - -

Despite the official policy, there was some secret co-operation with the West. This ranged from Finnish organizations such as the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_of_Finland" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Social Democratic Party of Finland - Social Democratic Party accepting U.S.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Central Intelligence Agency - Central Intelligence Agency funding to sharing of seismic data on nuclear tests. Likewise, Eastern Bloc countries conducted espionage in Finland, e.g., the East German  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Stasi - Stasi had agents there.

The Soviet Union had similar agreements with many nations that were not directly allied with it but depended heavily on Soviet support, such as  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="North Korea - North Korea since 1961, with  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Soviet_Treaty_of_Friendship_and_Cooperation" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Indo-Soviet Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation - India since 1971, and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Vietnam - Vietnam since 1978. The first such agreement, however, was with  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_France" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Free France - Free France in 1943.

The treaty came to an end in 1992 with the signing of a new treaty between Finland and the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Soviet_Russia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Post-Soviet Russia - post-Soviet Russia . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Soviet_Treaty_of_1948#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1]

DJ, So is there a legal ground for Finland NOT to become a member of NATO ? It does get mentioned but I would like to see a legal basis for that. 

Sweden has no such agreements with Russia. But is neutrality in the Swedish constitution ? [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_neutrality[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_neutrality - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_neutrality  

"the west" is pushing for Sweden and Finland to join NATO. The ruling political elite in those Nordic countries do not seem to want a referendum on it...But can Sweden and Finland switch from decades of being most neutral ti-in a few months-become full NATO members states when we are seeing an escalation far worse then during the cold war ? 

Is it wisdom ? Is it in the interests of Sweden and Finland ? Would cooperation of Sweden and Finland (maybe also including Norway, Denmark/Greenland and Iceland) but staying out of NATO not be a more clever alternative ? 

DJ-Sweden and Finland are well functioning democracies-far from perfect-but democracy never will be 100% perfect. So if those countries would decide on joining NATO one has to respect that. Still NATO also could say "not now"...and still respect the wishes from those two countries...

End of part 2



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 07 2022 at 11:52pm

DJ,

Alexander Mercouris [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szD3jrA-_oE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szD3jrA-_oE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szD3jrA-_oE ; As Pressure Increases on Ukrainian Forces in Northern Donbass False Stories Spread News Topic 489

DJ, AM mentioning propaganda as a tool in wars. I agree western media simply copy Ukraine propaganda-and that is bad. But his idea that the media will correct that somehow I find very optimistic....The damage propaganda can do is that some may see the "lies" as a basis for further choices...AM mentioned the BBC (UK-state run media) tried to "scan" Russian obituaries-but their conclusion was Russia may have lost just over 2,000 military...20% officers...(and most likely NO generals-eventhough both Ukraine and the west made such claims). 

Yesterday there were Ukraine claims of sinking another Russian ship in the Black Sea-however that ship was in port in Sevastopol-Crimea...

DJ-IF the west is taking Ukraine propaganda as a basis for further action they may be in for a shock...

DJ-AM mentioned the Donbas-militia now doing most of the fighting (Russia providing the "extras"; artillery, airsupport, intel, special forces. No doubt also logistics; fuel, munition, water, food, medical care.) Their losses may be around 1,600 fighters. The UN comes up with 3,300 civilian deaths-most likely with that number they mean civilians in Ukraine-NOT in Donbas-region...

DJ-There are lots of reports now of Ukraine facing very severe losses. With no fuel, logistics destroyed-supplies taking much longer, and a "stand-and-fight" strategy resulting in (pro)Russian fighters encircling the (pro)Ukraine forces in the east of Ukraine. 

The west did send-most old-weapons to Ukraine-a mix of them. Often without clear instructions on how to use them...some (Javelins as an example-expired-) simply do not work...Also western instructors often face language problems. Most likely (pro) Ukraine forces now being trained in Poland, Germany (also in France, UK, US ????) may get translators to help getting info over...

Ukraine may have been sending 15-60 y/o to the frontlines-in some area's most of the fighters are at an average of 40 and at best had some military training-some may not even have handled a gun. Transport often in civilian cars, Uniforms are scarce...There are soom claims of around 30,000 (pro) Ukraine fighters being killed...the number of POW's must be in the tens-of-thousends...I did see an AFP story of "untrained soldiers being dumped near a frontline without instructions"...

Scott Ritter mentioned Ukraine losses between 600-1,200 PER DAY !!!!

But propaganda as a basis may bring in the west...

-South Asia; [url]http://thesaker.is/terror-from-balochistan-a-menacing-tool-to-disrupt-sino-pakistani-economics/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/terror-from-balochistan-a-menacing-tool-to-disrupt-sino-pakistani-economics/ - http://thesaker.is/terror-from-balochistan-a-menacing-tool-to-disrupt-sino-pakistani-economics/ ; 

A Baloch suicide bombing targeting Chinese workers in Karachi comes a mere month after the US-backed ousting of PM Imran Khan. Pakistan is a critical BRI hub in Beijing’s vast Eurasian connectivity project, and it looks like CPEC is the ultimate target of this disruption.

By Pepe Escobar, posted with the author’s permission and cross-posted with https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/9980" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; background: rgba(240, 240, 230, 0.7); transition: all 0.5s ease 0s; color: rgb(44, 66, 78); padding: 0px 3px; border-bottom: 1px dotted rgb(85, 85, 85); - The Cradle

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Balochistan, geostrategically, is as valuable as rare earth minerals: an immense desert positioned east of Iran, south of Afghanistan, and boasting three Arabian Sea ports, including Gwadar, practically at the mouth of the strategic Strait of Hormuz.

Comprising nearly 48 percent of Pakistan’s area, Balochistan is rich in uranium and copper, potentially very rich in oil, produces more than one-third of Pakistan’s natural gas, and sparsely populated. The Baloch account for the majority of the population, followed by Pashtuns. Quetta, the large provincial capital, for years was considered Taliban Central by the Pentagon.

Gwadar, the port built by China on the southwestern Balochistan coast of the Arabian Sea – directly across from Oman – is the absolute key node of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), and doubles as the essential link in a never-ending pipeline saga. The Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline, previously known as the “peace pipeline,” with plans to cross from Iranian to Pakistani Balochistan (India still has not made up its mind) is absolute anathema to Washington since the George W. Bush era.

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The anti-China instrumentalization of the BLA also ties in with the regime-change parliament operation in Islamabad that recently deposed former prime minister Imran Khan, who was always a fierce adversary of the American “Forever War” in Afghanistan. Khan resolutely denied Pakistan’s use in “over the horizon” US military ops: that was one of the key reasons for him to be ousted.

Now, with a pliant, Washington-approved, new regime in town, a miracle has just happened: the Pentagon is about to clinch a formal agreement with Islamabad to use Pakistani airspace to – what else – keep interfering in Afghanistan.

Beijing, as well as other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), won’t be amused. Only weeks before the white coup, Khan had met with Chinese President Xi Jinping and once again underscored how Pakistan and China are “iron brothers.”

DJ [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan#/media/File:Major_ethnic_groups_of_Pakistan_in_1980_borders_removed.jpg[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan#/media/File:Major_ethnic_groups_of_Pakistan_in_1980_borders_removed.jpg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan#/media/File:Major_ethnic_groups_of_Pakistan_in_1980_borders_removed.jpg  

The [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan_Liberation_Army[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan_Liberation_Army - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balochistan_Liberation_Army has fallen in the hands of salafists extremists with IS links...Now the US is also going for sanctions against Arab oil states (not boycotting Russia, not increasing oil production-even thinking of oil payments not in US$) those Arab-gulf states may be less willing to provide the funds for Jihadi-terrorism in other Asian countries (from Syria to Indonesia, Philipines, Yemen...). 

Often with Turkish help the US-CIA transported IS "proxies" from Syria to Libya, Afghanistan...

Yes-most countries have ties with some "groups"seen as terrorists in other countries. The US was also involved in MEK [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mojahedin_Organization_of_Iran[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Mojahedin_Organization_of_Iran.. The US is "playing-often even a major-role" in many elections/politics in most countries. China mostly was able to play such a role in Asia...The former Soviet Union was able to get the KGB play a major role...most likely Russia has "its limits". UK-MI6, France DGSE also may play a somewhat global role. I think the US-CIA (and several others) also will be integrated in NATO-and "almost NATO" (Ukraine was one of them, Israel, Sweden, Finland) have their own "intel"working with the CIA.

DJ-I think the CIA-local "contacts" play a major role in media in the west, will not stop at gathering info/blackmail political leaders...There has always been a "hidden dirty war"...supporting chaos to bring in a new leadership...

In WW2 you had the SOE [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Operations_Executive[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Operations_Executive - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Operations_Executive UK, [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services US. 

Germany, Japan also had their "services". Secret war went from fake British Pounds being spread to have "fake Chruchill's" to hide where "the real Winston was"...After D-day in Europe the Germans managed to spread the news of "false generals running around" so Allied soldiers investigated every general they stopped...The UK did put "fake secret papers"on a dead body landing up in Brittany-convincing the Germans the real Allied invasion would be there (and not in Normandy. The fake-info was part of the reason why Germany did not send tanks to stop the invasion in time. Another part of the story may be hitler was sleeping and no one wanted to wake him up ...). 

DJ-Intel, propaganda, dis-information are major parts of the war. Any war-for centuries...you did not need "social media" for that, censorship hardly effected that kind of "intel"...

Maybe the main point I try to make is; most of the conflicts, "fighting" may be hidden...The propaganda "news" is right under our noses...but we do not always know what to believe..."A good spy never get caught, leaves no traces"....So "others" may not know where the info came from...(but the info may still be fake). 

[url]https://southfront.org/does-the-west-desire-nuclear-war/[/url] or https://southfront.org/does-the-west-desire-nuclear-war/ - https://southfront.org/does-the-west-desire-nuclear-war/ DJ-We KNOW Russia has lots of -in part hypersonic-nuclear weapons. As far as I understand some of their missiles may go at 6,000 to maybe even 20,000 kilometer per hour...May be able to reach the US via the South Pole-avoiding NORAD [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command and be that fast maybe laser-speed of light-weapons may have limited chance...

DJ-We have to get out of this global conflict. Lots of higher military/intel people are aware of the very real risks...We need de-escalation NOW !!!




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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 08 2022 at 10:07pm

DJ,

Gonzalo Lira (GL)  Alex Christoforou (AC) can no longer hide their cynism...with hundreds of billions of $ (stolen payments for Russian energy, tax payer money) and many trainloads of weapons there is a lot of money to be made...GL claims 1/3 to 1/2 of the "weapons for Ukraine" end up on the international black market...Money for "Ukraine reconstruction" no doubt ending up in "party sponsor pockets"...yachts going to EU/US oligarchs...

DJ-biden may try to "claim a victory" for his "democrats" to still have some chance with the mid-term november US elections..."A will to compromize may see a neutral Ukraine" or something like that....Ukraine destroyed and forced-by the west-to accept Russian conditions that are worse then Russia demanded prior to the war...But "still brought to you as a show of biden's wisdom and leadership"...

DJ-Western democracies have become corrupt democrazies...A club of spoiled upper-class carreer politicians on their way to better paying jobs...A "vision" is only in the way of further carreer plans...Money the only expression of "succes"....

Again-the American revolution was in 1776, the French revolution in 1789....the west needs to improve their democracies-WE-the citizens-will have to do that job...otherwise we will end up in a dictatorship that we claim to be fighting in Russia, Iran, China...

Internet works both ways...you can get a lot of info...but states can get a lot of info on you...I remember a former East German activist stating western democracies have more info on their citizens the stasi ever had on East Germans in the GDR...And it is what you do with that info....in many ways internet means totalitarianism...if not by companies then by state-in the west it may be both...

DJ-Will there be a "global nuclear war" as [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-uk-prime-minister-boris-johnson-military-aid-to-ukraine-is-no-longer-enough-to-defend-it[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-uk-prime-minister-boris-johnson-military-aid-to-ukraine-is-no-longer-enough-to-defend-it - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-uk-prime-minister-boris-johnson-military-aid-to-ukraine-is-no-longer-enough-to-defend-it is expecting ? 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-megalopolis-x-russia-total-war[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-megalopolis-x-russia-total-war - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-megalopolis-x-russia-total-war ; 

So yes, this is Totalen Krieg, Total War – as Glazyev spells it out with no attenuation, and how Russia denounced it this week at the UN: “Russia needs to stand up to the United States and NATO in its confrontation, bringing it to its logical conclusion, so as not to be torn between them and China, which is irrevocably becoming the leader of the world economy.”

History may eventually register, 77 years after the end of WWII, that neocon/neoliberalcon psychos in Washington silos instigating an inter-Slavic war by ordering Kiev to launch a blitzkrieg against Donbass was the spark that led to the Fall of the U.S. Empire.

DJ From Hal Turner; 

I spoke to a US military contact Sunday afternoon and he told me directly:

"Russia has a very large and effective fleet of nuclear submarines that lie off the coast of the U.S. They have a great number of nuclear-tipped missiles that can evade any defenses we have. 

and it is not only Russia the west is in conflict with...Iran, China, North Korea, Syria are top of the list....

With (N)OPEC turning away from the west, Africa, Latin America as good as gone-again-the west did destroy itself...DJ-I think there may not be a need to "go nuclear"; the rest of the world may even allow the west to "claim a (last) victory"...

Russia, based on purchasing power parity (PPP), is the 6th economy in the world, right behind Germany and ahead of both the UK and France. Its “hard” economy is similar to the U.S. Steel production may be about the same, but intellectual capacity is vastly superior. Russia has roughly the same number of engineers as the U.S., but they are much better educated.

The Mossad attributes Israel’s economic miracle in creating an equivalent of Silicon Valley to a base of a million Russian immigrants. This Israeli Silicon Valley happens to be a key asset of the American MICIMATT (military-industrial-congressional-intelligence-media-academia-think tank complex), as indelibly named by Ray McGovern.

NATOstan media hysterically barking that Russia’s GDP is the size of Texas is nonsense. PPP is what really counts; that and Russia’s superior engineers is why their hypersonic weapons are at least two or three generations ahead of the U.S. Just ask the indispensable http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Andrei Martyanov .

The Empire of Lies has no defensive missiles worthy of the name, and no equivalents to Mr. Zircon and Mr. Sarmat. The NATOstan sphere simply cannot win a war, any war against Russia for this reason alone.

DJ, Soon most-if not all-energy deals will be done not in US$ or Euro's but in -most-Asian currencies. The US may have a large arsenal of nuclear weapons it may simply not be able to use...

I expect if there are more conflicts the "Asian strategy" will be to keep those conflicts limited and short...

Maybe a bit "western style picture" Vladimir is pointing a gun at "joe" -he still has his gun at his hip and his hand is shaking....If "joe" (or one of his few friends) "start something" Vlad may pull the trigger...

"We" did lose the fight...should have avoided that fight...Retirement can be a friendly process, now we are being kicked out because we can not accept the idea another generation is taking over...Damage control is all there is left...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 09 2022 at 10:30pm

DJ, 

One of the questions I have is are we in this US-Russia war to "hide" the pandemic is out of control ? Of course-a US elite is making billions out of war...So for them-often combining high political functions with having shares in the Military Industrial Complex (MIC)-'war=profit"....Again it may also be a weak spot; corruption means that Russia may be able to produce weapons at the cost of only 5-10% of what US weapons cost...That is why [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity is that important...

Based on PPP [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)#Table[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)#Table China is global economy #1, India #3, Russia #6, Indonesia #7, Brazil #9...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita#Table[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita#Table gives a perspective at an individual level...US at #13, China at #97...

-It is incorrect to focus only on the Ukraine-war. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor is under attack ...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Imran Khan

DJ, The US via bribes-kicked out the elected PM Imran Khan, via support for Baluchi-IS linked groups the US is attacking Chinese workers in Pakistan. Pakistan is the main link for China new silk road...and the US is fighting China in Pakistan. [url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260624.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260624.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1260624.shtml ;

Cooperation with China boosts the economy of Pakistan, but religious extremism and national separatism have led to the fragmentation of political and economic interests. With the influence of Western media reports, some Pakistani forces hold radical views toward China-Pakistan cooperation, leaving the security of Chinese projects and personnel in peril.

China and Pakistan should join hands to enhance security cooperation. Pakistan must undertake forceful measures to ensure the security of Chinese investments and citizens in the country and fill in the loopholes of its current security measures.

Liu said that the 15,000 military personnel of the Special Security Division are deployed to provide security to CPEC-related projects, but the Confucius Institute, the target of the latest attack, was not within its scope. 

DJ China did invest in pipelines, (rail)roads etc. to link China with the Indian Ocean [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations ; Formal relations were established in 1950 when the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_of_Pakistan" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Dominion of Pakistan - Dominion of Pakistan  was among the first countries to end official diplomatic relations with the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Taiwan - Republic of China (Taiwan)  and recognize the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="China - People's Republic of China (PRC) government  on  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_China" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Mainland China - Mainland China . Since then, both countries have placed considerable importance on the maintenance of a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relationship_(international_relations)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Special relationship (international relations) - special relationship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations#cite_note-bbcnews-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations#cite_note-nyt-2" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [2]  and the two countries have regularly exchanged high-level visits resulting in a variety of agreements. The PRC has provided  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="China–Pakistan Economic Corridor - economic , military, and technical assistance to Pakistan, and each country considers the other a close strategic ally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations#cite_note-3" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relations#cite_note-4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4]

The US is trying to break up China-Pakistan and Russia-India decades old good relations...in-what most will see-as a new wave of colonialism with a "global NATO" enforcing US rule...

DJ-RIC; Russia-Iran-China is THE superpower at the moment...Russia can deal with Ukraine-even with NATO involved [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pentagon-give-ukraine-high-precision-laser-guided-rockets[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pentagon-give-ukraine-high-precision-laser-guided-rockets - https://www.zerohedge.com/military/pentagon-give-ukraine-high-precision-laser-guided-rockets   without major help from Iran or China...

However [url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1265142.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1265142.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1265142.shtml ;Syrian President Bashar al-Assad visited his closest regional ally Iran on Sunday for talks with Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, during which both leaders called for stronger ties between Tehran and Damascus, Iranian state media reported.

DJ, There are some claims Russia may be pulling out some of its military from Syria-giving Iran more room...[url]https://www.debka.com/moscows-doomsday-plane-in-may-9-parade-raises-nuclear-threat-over-ukraine-war-ties-with-israel-plummet/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/moscows-doomsday-plane-in-may-9-parade-raises-nuclear-threat-over-ukraine-war-ties-with-israel-plummet/ - https://www.debka.com/moscows-doomsday-plane-in-may-9-parade-raises-nuclear-threat-over-ukraine-war-ties-with-israel-plummet/  

Israel is a "non-NATO NATO member" with a US military base (radar, communications) and in many ways integrated in the NATO defense system. Ukraine was in the same position...

The US has been supporting all kinds of "moderate terrorists" providing them a.o. with weapons [url]https://southfront.org/chechen-fighters-show-their-trophies-thank-biden/[/url] or https://southfront.org/chechen-fighters-show-their-trophies-thank-biden/ - https://southfront.org/chechen-fighters-show-their-trophies-thank-biden/ ...history shows that a lot of those weapons end up in places the US (or any other country) did not want it to end up...

In Germany-in a glimmer of realism-some realized that both training Ukraine "military" and providing them with weapons is making Germany a "party in the conflict"...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russian-ambassador-to-poland-hit-with-red-paint[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russian-ambassador-to-poland-hit-with-red-paint - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russian-ambassador-to-poland-hit-with-red-paint ; 

The Russian Ambassador to Poland was at a ceremony to lay flowers at the Cemetery of Soviet Soldiers who died fighting Nazis in World War 2.  He was doused with red liquid (paint?) by protesters to the Ukraine Special Military Operation.

HT REMARK: Poland: No class.  Absolutely no class at all.

There is a time and a place for everything.   Laying flowers at the tomb of dead soldiers is NOT the time or the place to do something as ugly as was done to the Ambassador.  This was a despicable act, by people who have no class.  No class at all.

DJ; [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable ; 

Operation Unthinkable was the name given to two related possible future war plans by the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiefs_of_Staff_Committee" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Chiefs of Staff Committee - British Chiefs of Staff against the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Soviet Union - Soviet Union in 1945. The plans were never approved nor implemented. The creation of the plans was ordered by British Prime Minister  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Winston Churchill - Winston Churchill in May 1945 and developed by the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Armed_Forces" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="British Armed Forces - British Armed Forces ' Joint Planning Staff in May 1945 at the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_World_War_II_in_Europe" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="End of World War II in Europe - end of World War II in Europe . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1]

One plan assumed a surprise attack on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Red Army - Soviet forces stationed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied-occupied_Germany" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Allied-occupied Germany - Germany to "impose the will of the Western Allies" on the Soviets. "The will" was qualified as "a square deal for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Poland - Poland ", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable#cite_note-OpRep-1-2" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [2] which probably meant enforcing the recently signed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yalta_Agreement" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Yalta Agreement - Yalta Agreement . The planners decided that without massive American help Britain would probably fail. The assessment, signed by the Chief of Army Staff on 9 June 1945, concluded: "It would be beyond our power to win a quick but limited success and we would be committed to a protracted war against heavy odds." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable#cite_note-3" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [3] [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Wikipedia:Verifiability - [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed - The study became the first https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Cold War - Cold War -era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingency_plan" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Contingency plan - contingency plan for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="World War III - war with the Soviet Union . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable#cite_note-Costigliola-336-4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4] Both plans were highly secret and were not made public until 1998 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable#cite_note-Gibbons-158-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [5] – although a British spy for the Soviets, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Burgess" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Guy Burgess - Guy Burgess , had passed on some details at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable#cite_note-FOOTNOTELownie2016148-6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [6]

NATO was formed in 1949...The west supported hitler in the years before the war...in many ways even fighting communism in occupied Europe by the west providing Germany with info on communist resistance...resulting in the dead of most likely tens-of-thousends...NATO and nazi's are very related...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#History[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#History - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#History was under nazi-control for much to long...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor in many ways was a continuation of the "fight against communism" via terror and support for fascism...

Even with Russia now-under Putin-with a right wing government the western anti-Russia war goes on...Some claim the "cold war" between the US and Russia started in the 19th century; US moving west, Russia moving east...selling Alaska to the US is part of the US-Russia conflict...

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 09 2022 at 11:56pm

part 2, 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-putin-on-why-the-war-started-failed-attempts-on-snake-island-other-issues-.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-putin-on-why-the-war-started-failed-attempts-on-snake-island-other-issues-.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-putin-on-why-the-war-started-failed-attempts-on-snake-island-other-issues-.html ;

It is Victory Day. As Ernest Hemingway https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/dpprr3/is_this_a_real_quote_by_ernest_hemingway/" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - said :

Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

The most important part of  http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/68366" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - Vladimir Putin's speech to the Victory Parade on the Red Square is the narrative that explains how the current war in Ukraine began. Putin  https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/05/06/training-weapons-intel-us-militarys-slow-slide-toward-confrontation-russia-over-ukraine.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - is correct in seeing this as a NATO proxy war against Russia:

[D]espite all controversies in international relations, Russia has always advocated the establishment of an equal and indivisible security system which is critically needed for the entire international community.

Last December we proposed signing a treaty on security guarantees. Russia urged the West to hold an honest dialogue in search for meaningful and compromising solutions, and to take account of each other’s interests. All in vain. NATO countries did not want to heed us, which means they had totally different plans. And we saw it.

Another punitive operation in Donbass, an invasion of our historic lands, including Crimea, was openly in the making. Kiev declared that it could attain nuclear weapons. The NATO bloc launched an active military build-up on the territories adjacent to us.

Thus, an absolutely unacceptable threat to us was steadily being created right on our borders. There was every indication that a clash with neo-Nazis and Banderites backed by the United States and their minions was unavoidable.

Let me repeat, we saw the military infrastructure being built up, hundreds of foreign advisors starting work, and regular supplies of cutting-edge weaponry being delivered from NATO countries. The threat grew every day.

Russia launched a pre-emptive strike at the aggression. It was a forced, timely and the only correct decision. A decision by a sovereign, strong and independent country.

The use of 'pre-emptive strike' is somewhat misleading. In fact the Ukraine started the war on Wednesday, February 16 2022, when its forces near the Donbas republics began preparatory artillery strikes for an all out ground attack on the Donbas republics.


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A689O_Q3eZc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A689O_Q3eZc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A689O_Q3eZc Alexander Mercouris (with a cold ? Or is it CoViD ???) AM; Putin Says Russia 'Defending Motherland' in Victory Day Speech as Ukrainian Defences Crack in Donbass News Topic 491

DJ; Ukraine defenses are at breaking point in the east of Ukraine. But what is next ? It was never the Russian plan to take over ALL of Ukraine but as long as the west (US, UK) keep pushing for more war-an alternative may not be that easy. 

There are lots of stories on Poland-Romania taking over "old" parts of western Ukraine...but DJ-I doubt Russia will accept that-since that still means NATO moving east...Also Ukraine nationalists may not accept such an idea...

The outcome of the present western "strategy" is "Ukraine fighting till the last Ukraine fighter" with-for now-limited room for more western "support" then sending in weapons. Zelensky may repeat a call for a "no-fly zone" but the west is limited in what it can do-certainly hypersonic missiles may not be something the west-for now-can mean much...

Also-with west-to-est infrastructure in Ukraine being destroyed; eeven if Ukraine would allow western troops to the frontlines there are "limits"...Ukraine is a very large country and the distances do matter...

So-Putin again looking at the history of Russia as the "motherland for many nations"...So far it was the Communist Party (former CPSU) that was calling for a "new Soviet Union"...Putin his "United Russia" was more Russian orientated...but the west keeping the Ukraine war going-sending in more weapons and telling Zelensky not to go for talks...(paying him very well, Zelensky and the Ukraine puppets have UK (etc) passports...they can get out...) could mean Russia may go for restoration of a multi-national Russia...

Another Belarus-coup could also be limited in such a strategy...However there may be other forms of creating better safety conditions against NATO moving east...

DJ-China does take World War Two very serious as well. The Japanese occupation and terror killed tens of millions Chineese, Koreans etc. With a "global NATO" including Japan China and Russia may seek further military cooperation. Other countries may have their own interests as well...

How Russia is dealing with Ukraine is interesting for China on how to deal with Taiwan (that does see itself as representing all of China...not just as the island-state.). India, Pakistan (and China) also face the Kashmir question...Baluchistan, Kurds may be other stories in need of a solution...to keep the US-using those "questions" for its own goals...

DJ-I think most of Asia is well aware that "Asian cooperation" is needed to bring that continent-with over 50% of the global population-forward. 

Also by now most Asian countries do not see "the west" as very constructive...so it is time to make up their minds. "United we stand-divided we fall"....

-Another question is why Russia keeps selling goods to the west-as far as that trade is not sanctioned...DJ-Answer in part is they welcome still western currencies and are working at improving infrastructure to sell more on the Asian markets....Once a new pipeline for gas to China is ready the EU may see gas supplies from Russia being decreased...Asian countries are replacing the west but often are not ready yet...But also domestic use of goods-so far exported-is increasing. Oil can be made into diesel, kerosine etc. also in Russia itself...

Again, EU sanctions on Russian energy may be far worse for the EU....The outcome of the economic war is weakening both the Euro and US$...

-The longer term is the big question. DJ-I do not expect "the west" to stay united...Asia is the big consumer market and for now is more and more becoming anti-western...

If inflation and shortages kick in, Ukraine is collapsing, western "leaders" have to have answers for how they did deal with this crisis...

The pandemic, climate collapse are both getting worse...so better have good answers...

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 10 2022 at 9:33pm

DJ, 

The only war the 'west" may have some success in is the propaganda war....However also there-on the longer run-the west did put itself in an impossible position. The idea "we" the citizens of "the west" would blame "Putin" (because the idea is "Putin" is "evil" -the western goal is liberation of Russian oil and gas) for western sanctions is "not that workable"...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/eu-gas-futures-jump-ukraines-grid-operator-halt-flows-key-entry-point[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/eu-gas-futures-jump-ukraines-grid-operator-halt-flows-key-entry-point - https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/eu-gas-futures-jump-ukraines-grid-operator-halt-flows-key-entry-point , [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-urgent-ukraine-shuts-off-all-european-natural-gas[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-urgent-ukraine-shuts-off-all-european-natural-gas - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-urgent-ukraine-shuts-off-all-european-natural-gas ; 

This is a gigantic development for Europe, and very bad, too.

Could Ukraine being twisting European arms for more money and more weapons?   Could Ukraine actually be blackmailing Europe, maybe withholding gas flows until Ukraine gets the money and weapons they want?  Only time will tell.

DJ, The EU was thinking of "an oil boycott" so a reduction of Russian gas-without any short term replacements will hurt the EU. And I do not think a lot of people are willing to blame Putin for it...Russia may be willing to look for "other pipelines" (Northstream-2 ?)...however the EU may close that door...

-IF NATO countries send in the military to fight/kill Russians in Ukraine/get killed by the Russians...there may be other frontlines [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-accelerates-nuclear-buildup-military-modernization-biden-speeding-us-defeat[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-accelerates-nuclear-buildup-military-modernization-biden-speeding-us-defeat - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-accelerates-nuclear-buildup-military-modernization-biden-speeding-us-defeat   more WION [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukxE99DqP_k[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukxE99DqP_k - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukxE99DqP_k India, China training for invasion of Taiwan. The PLA has carried out another round of drills near Taiwan. Chinese warships and planes surrounded the island. They conducted a partial rehearsal of "a possible reunification-by-force operation". Is China preparing to invade Taiwan? Palki Sharma tells you more.

DJ, Lots of events in south and east Asia, Sri Lanka, Philippines, Marcos jr. elected, South Korea's new PM, Pakistan crisis not over...Keeping an eye on that story is another job...maybe the main point however is ; Asia as a US-China battleground. With China "in the hearth" of Asia. The US-seen by many-as a new colonizer...however China could end up as "colonizer" as well. 

TIP, Turkey-Iran-Pakistan cooperation was a way to escape from the China-US confrontation. YES-there is "close cooperation" between Russia and China however some countries now-trying to stay out of the US-China conflict (and with the EU putting itself much to close to the US) could seek more cooperation with Russia...A.o. Indonesia has had good relations with Russia most of the time-so has India. 

It looks like the US has made changes in the way they see East Asia. The US may go for Taiwan as an independent state-ending the "One China policy" started under Nixon 1972. Worse; the US may support Japan on claims of islands under Russian control since 1945. 

Finland joining NATO would break a Finland-Russian neutrality agreement from 1948 (or 1949). 

A "global NATO"  with Australia and Japan may not be welcomed in East Asia...Korea is united in their hate against Japan. Japan never apologized for the mass murder of millions of Koreans, Chinese, Indonesians, Philippines etc. and using them as slaves till august 1945. So increasing (and weaponizing) US-Japan cooperation may "send the wrong signal"...

-[url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/russian-forces-abandon-syrian-bases-ready-to-fly-to-ukraine/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/russian-forces-abandon-syrian-bases-ready-to-fly-to-ukraine/ - https://www.debka.com/mivzak/russian-forces-abandon-syrian-bases-ready-to-fly-to-ukraine/ ; Russian units deployed to Syria are assembling at the air bases of  Hmeimim, Qamishli, Deir e-Zor and T4, ready for some to transfer to the Ukraine warfront. DEBKAfile’s military sources report that the Russians are handing over key bases to Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and Hizballah.

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/05/02/681382/Prospect-of-Iran-Saudi-ties--promising-signs-amid-fading-US-influence-in-region-[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/05/02/681382/Prospect-of-Iran-Saudi-ties--promising-signs-amid-fading-US-influence-in-region- - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/05/02/681382/Prospect-of-Iran-Saudi-ties--promising-signs-amid-fading-US-influence-in-region-   DJ; There is a powerstruggle in the Middle East. Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as major players. 

[url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/11/shireen-abu-akleh-israeli-forces-kill-al-jazeera-journalist[/url] or  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/11/shireen-abu-akleh-israeli-forces-kill-al-jazeera-journalist - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/11/shireen-abu-akleh-israeli-forces-kill-al-jazeera-journalist  Israel murdering journalists does not improve Israel-Arab relations.

Turkey has major economic problems-may have a major job balancing relations with both Russia and Ukraine in the north. In the east Turkey and Iran may agree at some points (Kurds) however Turkey does not want Iran to get to strong...Erdogan may meet Assad of Syria (an Arab country) in another balancing act. Once there was Turkish-Israel cooperation...but those days seem to be far away...With Saudi Arabia Turkey is in a religious competition. DJ-One reason why KSA (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) may be shifting from the west may be most Muslims do not see the US as a country that respectss Islam...(another reason is the main markets for oil are in Asia...). 

-The west is NOT united. The harder some "leaders" claim unity the more likely it seems that unity is missing...DJ-Again I am NOT pro-Putin !!! I am pro-west...and it hurts me to see western "leaders" are destroying that west...The US WAS (!!!) the #1 in economy, military...present policies speed up the fall, diplomacy would have slowed the proces-maybe even stopped it...

If 'the west" wants to stay in a dominating position it would need to respect Asia...try to understand the many "faces" of Asia...But the "west" is slapping Asia in the face, going for insults...blinded by a pseudo-religious idea of "exceptionalism"...Being the global bully has become damaging for the west..

-Nuclear War....With many countries having nuclear weapons-all but one-in EurAsia and EurAsia in a process of high speed changes risk for nuclear weapon use does increase. 

Israel against Iran maybe top of the list...North Korea against Japan/US next...Pakistan-India-China have a border conflict-nuclear weapons-but my impression is they are not that likely to use them against each other because it would destroy their own country as well. 

Which brings up "tactical-battle field" nuclear weapons and "strategic-long distance" nuclear weapons. US and Russia-by far the biggest stockpiles of those kinds of weapons. A "first strike"-and survival-idea...Russia destroying the US-France, UK, Israel not reacting out of fear for destruction...However the US has a lot of nuclear weapons in submarines and US bases outside the US...

The other way round-US destroying Russian nuclear capacity may be "a bad idea"...even if the US also would go for North Korea...

DJ-A US nuclear attack to "stay #1" and destroy competition may be the "most likely" nuclear scenario...still it would destroy the planet. Even if US/NATO defenses would unable a nuclear counter attack "Asia in flames" would be the end...However US neo-con's may see that differently, denying climate change, pandemics...

The biggest risk for nuclear war-in my view-comes from the US. Hope we will not have to see this kind of MADness...



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Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: May 12 2022 at 2:18am

Another one of Russian Josh's "sources" jailed on charges of espionage. 

Voice of America freelancer's arrest on suspicion of being Russian spy causes international ripples

VOA says Pablo González 'had no direct relationship' with the U.S.-funded global news agency

A Spanish freelance journalist for Voice of America, the U.S.-funded global media service, was arrested last month in Poland on suspicion of being a  https://www.foxnews.com/category/world/world-regions/russia" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(0, 51, 102); transition: background 0s ease 0s, all 0.25s ease 0s, all 0s ease-in-out 0s; text-decoration: underline; - Russian spy , causing international ripples as VOA scrambled to "review" his past contributions and press watchdogs howled for his release.

Pablo González, described by the Spanish online newspaper Público as a "journalist specializing in the post-Soviet world and a doctoral candidate at the University of the Basque Country," was arrested on Feb. 28 by Poland's Internal Security Agency on charges of spying for GRU, Russia's foreign military intelligence service. He faces 10 years in prison and the agency said he would be held for three months.

A VOA spokesperson said González had, according to its records, posted only six stories for the agency, the last one in 2021, but he had also contributed to a recent Ukraine segment as a camera operator. He was active on Twitter until his arrest. 



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 12 2022 at 3:31am

The [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-congress-passes-the-bucks-realism-sneaks-in-poland-plans-for-more-war.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-congress-passes-the-bucks-realism-sneaks-in-poland-plans-for-more-war.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-congress-passes-the-bucks-realism-sneaks-in-poland-plans-for-more-war.html providing two scenarios;

Further esacalation;

Why would Poland, with the help of Lithuania, try to take western Ukraine? It is all about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - history :

The Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, formally known as the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and, after 1791, as the Commonwealth of Poland, was a country and bi-federation of Poland and Lithuania ruled by a common monarch in real union, who was both King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania. It was one of the largest and most populous countries of 16th to 17th-century Europe. At its largest territorial extent, in the early 17th century, the Commonwealth covered almost 1,000,000 km2 (400,000 sq mi) and as of 1618 sustained a multi-ethnic population of almost 12 million.

Here is how that commonwealth looked on a map with current borders:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/12i/plc.jpg" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - bigger

There have been talks for a while that Poland would send a 'peacekeeping' force to occupy Galicia in west-Ukraine. I for one  https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/02/disarming-ukraine.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - predicted it on February 24, at the very onset of the war:

Thanks to Stalin's additions to the Ukraine three countries, Poland, Hungary and Romania, have claims to certain areas in the Ukraine's western regions. If they want to snatch those up again it is now probably the best time to do so. Despite being part of NATO, which likely would not support such moves, those three will have domestic policy difficulties to withstand the urge.

An official looking document now says that a Polish/Lithuanian operation will start on May 22-24.

Lord Of War @lord_of_war____ - https://twitter.com/lord_of_war____/status/1524038193800265731" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - 14:46 UTC · May 10, 2022
🇺🇦🇵🇱The document was sent to the President of the State Border Service of Ukraine, Serhiy Daynek, stating that it is 22-24. May joint "Lithuanian-Polish peacekeeping contingent" consisting of 4 battalions, 9,500 soldiers and 279 units of military equipment [planned to enter the territory of Ukraine. Another confirmation of the development of plans for the occupation and further division of the country. Even if this particular document turns out to be false (which is not excluded), it does not change the general course of the West in relation to Ukraine.]
https://twitter.com/lord_of_war____/status/1524038193800265731" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - picture

9.500 soldiers are way more than fit into 4 battalions. A battalion has typically some 400-800 soldiers. These are more like three small brigades with 3-4 battalions each.

Or talks;

A Polish/Lithuanian move is exactly what Col. Macgregor is https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-threat-of-polish-involvement-in-ukraine/" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - warning of :

Ten weeks after the conflict began, it is instructive to re-examine the strategic picture. The war against Russia in Ukraine has evolved, but not in the way Western observers predicted. Ukrainian forces look shattered and exhausted. The supplies reaching Ukrainian troops fighting in Eastern Ukraine are a fraction of what is needed. In most cases, replacements and new weapons are destroyed long before they reach the front.

Confronted with the unambiguous failure of U.S. assistance and the influx of new weapons to rescue Ukrainian forces from certain destruction, the Biden administration is desperate to reverse the situation and save face. Poland seems to offer a way out. More important, Polish President Andrzej Duda and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have both expressed the desire to erase the borders between Poland and Ukraine.

Unconfirmed reports from Warsaw indicate that after Washington rejected the proposals for a no-fly zone over Ukraine, along with the transfer of Polish MIG-29 aircrafts to Ukrainian pilots, the Polish general staff was quietly instructed to formulate plans for intervention in the Ukrainian conflict by seizing the western part of Ukraine. Naturally, military action of this scale would require Kiev’s approval, but given Washington’s de facto control of the Zelensky government, approval for Polish military intervention should not be a problem.

Presumably, the Biden administration may hope that a collision involving Russians and Poles in any form—including air and missile strikes against Polish forces on the Ukrainian side of the border—would potentially call for the NATO council to meet and address Article V of the NATO treaty.

It would mean that NATO, or at least major parts of it, would actively join the Ukrainian proxy war against Russia. While I believe that Russia has withheld forces from the current war to eventually defend against NATO, any entry of it into the war would significantly extend the fighting and the danger of a nuclear exchange would become imminent.

DJ....Further NATO-US led escalation-with Ukraine running out of soldiers being replaced by Polish soldiers-bring several complications;

-Zelensky-being a US puppet-may "welcome further NATO support"; a lot of Ukraine nationalists want NATO forces on the frontline in the east...not taking parts from Ukraine in the west...

- [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-warns-away-us-warship-after-large-scale-pla-drills-near-taiwan[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-warns-away-us-warship-after-large-scale-pla-drills-near-taiwan - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-warns-away-us-warship-after-large-scale-pla-drills-near-taiwan DJ-At a certain point China, Iran (others ? In Latin America ???) may become active to create more fronts...

-[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZkNQD9CfNw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZkNQD9CfNw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZkNQD9CfNw Alex Christoforou/AC ; Elensky cuts off gas. Green leader shows up in Kiev. Greek shippers stop sanctions. Update 1 Topic 536 Remove Russia shirt: https://t.me/ostashkonews/11058 Sky News video: https://t.me/ostashkonews/11001

DJ; Greek tankers do 65% of Russian global oil transport...so Greece (Malta, Cyprus) do not accept sanctions on their tankers...Hungary wants to keep buying Russian oil-most likely the rest of the west has no alternative but will buy oil "not coming from Russia" via Turkey etc....in fact paying a higher price for Russian oil...with Russia moving away from the European/US energy market to sell it to "friendly nations"...

You need a working economy to fight a major war....the pandemic is far from over, and the west is "getting out of fuel" ...Energy most used in industry, agriculture (glasshouses), powerplants etc. all year-not for heating houses in winter only. 

DJ-[url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/first-us-intel-admission-of-russian-advances-in-ukraine/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/first-us-intel-admission-of-russian-advances-in-ukraine/ - https://www.debka.com/mivzak/first-us-intel-admission-of-russian-advances-in-ukraine/ ;

“The Russians aren’t winning and the Ukrainians aren’t winning and we’re in a bit of a stalemate here,” said Lt-Gen Scott Berrier, DIA chief at the Pentagon on Thursday. However, Scott Avril Haines, National Intelligence Director, speaking alongside him, maintained that the Russian forces’ advance in Donbass portends their complete control of East Ukraine. They are now massing units in Luhansk in an effort to capture Snake Island on the Black Sea and so attain full control of the northern stretch of that sea, according to Haines. This is the first time that US intelligence officials admit to Russian territorial gains in the Ukraine war and allow that their army’s performance shows improvement.

I think the definition of "winning" depends on the goals one wants to archieve. So far Russian goal was NOT to take over all of Ukraine...but the "demilitarization" is "on its way" killing 600-1.200 Ukraine military each day....

[url]https://southfront.org/in-video-john-kirby-confirms-us-instigated-war-in-ukraine/[/url] or https://southfront.org/in-video-john-kirby-confirms-us-instigated-war-in-ukraine/ - https://southfront.org/in-video-john-kirby-confirms-us-instigated-war-in-ukraine/ ;

Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby dispelled the myth of “innocent Ukraine”, recalling that the Biden administration sent “lethal aid” to Ukraine before the war started.  https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-administration-weapons-ukraine-invasion-pentagon-press-secretary" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: red; text-decoration: underline; background-color: transparent; transition: all 0.2s ease 0s; outline: 0px; - LINK

” One, the Biden administration was flowing in weapons well before the invasion. The first billion dollars that the president committed to Ukraine did include lethal assistance. And that was before Putin decided to move in. Plus, we were very open and honest about what we were seeing the Russians do. And then the last point, which I don’t think we keep in mind as much as we should, Neil, is the training and effort that went into getting the Ukrainians ready for this kind of war over the last eight years. The United States, Canada, Britain, other allies really helped train the Ukrainians in small unit leadership, command and control, operational maneuver.” – John Kirby claimed in his interview. 

DJ-In my view-far from perfect I admit; no one has all the facts-the west is already isolated. The US goal of "staying #1" , keeping the US$ "global currency" is unrealistic.

Further sanctions on China, India, Indonesia for buying Russian oil, even the idea of sanctions against Saudi Arabia-working with Russia in (N)OPEC, possibly buying Russian weapons...simply underline the hopeless western isolated position. 

The west may have allies as Japan, Australia...but even South Korea may be a ? ....The Asian market-with 4 billion consumers-is the future market. 

DJ-One could see the present situation as a fight between the US and EU for that Asia-market...with most EU-leaders for now not showing "much wisdom".

Some other conflicts; China-India, Pakistan-India, KSA-Iran maybe even Syria-Assad - Turkey-Erdogan. But "western sanctions" may unite Asia...

AGAIN !!!!! Russia-Iran-China RIC cooperation is the outcome of a failure of western foreign policy ! RIC are three very different countries-the west should have done wiser dipolmacy to AVOID RIC !!! Since they seem unable to learn now others join RIC, from Syria, Iraq, to Indonesia, India...

DJ, Pakistan is taking a look at its history and the role of "foreign players".....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUwD7jU6OY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUwD7jU6OY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUwD7jU6OY Alexander Mercouris/AM ;

Ukraine Suffers More Donbass Losses, Reduces Gas Supply to EU, As Italy's Draghi Tells Biden Diplomatic Solution Needed News Topic 493

My guess is due to growing economic/energy problems the "west" soon may break up...Social unrest will further increase a political crisis...So I think the west may be closer to collapse then they realize...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 12:10am

DJ, 

In the latest propagandawar a video showing soldiers killing two elderly men in Kiev did show up. The claim is made that "Russian soldiers" did the killing and looting. Maybe a better informed person may identify the uniforms...No doubt Russian soldiers may do wrong things, however the Ukraine army is that desperate it now also includes former prisoners...(the video was a few months old).

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/40-billion-in-aid-to-ukraine-blocked-in-u-s-senate[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/40-billion-in-aid-to-ukraine-blocked-in-u-s-senate - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/40-billion-in-aid-to-ukraine-blocked-in-u-s-senate ;

Fiscal conservatives are praising Sen. Rand Paul for blocking a $40 billion aid package to Ukraine – a bill that not a single person on Capitol Hill has been able to read.

Paul objected to a deal offered by Senate Majority Leader https://thehill.com/people/charles-schumer/" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(27, 27, 27); text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; transition: color 400ms ease 0s, background-color 400ms ease 0s; - Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Minority Leader https://thehill.com/people/mitch-mcconnell/" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(27, 27, 27); text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; transition: color 400ms ease 0s, background-color 400ms ease 0s; - Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) that would have set up votes on Thursday afternoon on the funding and on an amendment from Paul, who wanted to include language in the bill to expand an Afghanistan inspector general role to include oversight of the Ukraine funds. 

“Our total aid to Ukraine will almost equal the entire military budget of Russia,” Paul said. “The cost of this package we are voting on today is more than the U.S. spent during the first year of the U.S. conflict in Afghanistan. Congress authorized force and the president sent troops into the conflict. The same cannot be said of Ukraine.”

DJ, The amount of money now being "prepared for Ukraine"-often not labelled-so impossible to track-by western countries; US, UK, EU (etc) may by now be over 100 billion+ US$/€...and it is not clear at all how it is being used...

In NL media (based on AP etc) I also did read Russian military no longer willing to go to war because "it is a slaughterhouse"...[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUwD7jU6OY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUwD7jU6OY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUwD7jU6OY Alexander Mercouris (AM) has been giving that description as well.... DJ-Since it is not official war the Russian military no longer willing to go to a basic military mass murder only punishment is losing the army job...(If it was an official war they would face much more severe legal action). 

From AM;

-Growing protests in central/west Ukraine about the massive losses (both in killed/wounded and POW) of men in the (Russian ethnic) Donbas. Families wondering why their sons, fathers (a lot of Ukraine soldiers 40+) have to fight in a part of Ukraine where people do not want to be part of the (present) Kiev-junta run Ukraine...

-Turkey worried about how many Turkish-made drones are lost at the "snake-island" Ukraine military disaster..

-Draghi-Italy on a visit in the US asking for a way out. So far Italy supported sanctions etc. 

-In Germany trade unions-basis for the Social Democratic Party (SDP)-also discussing support for the the German (relative new) government

DJ-The EU supported help for Ukraine...however the idea for regimechange in Moscow was not on their agenda...

AM also discussing the Russian claim Ukraine attack on Snake-island was based on UK advice. The UK/bojo may be even more extreme in being anti-Russian (with bojo thinking he is Winston Churchill - like Macron has "Napoleon-like" ideas of himself). AM wondering what basis Russia has for that claim (DJ-Since it was a disaster Kiev may blame the UK...). 

-In the Donbas Ukraine massive losses go on...DJ, Russian artillery is shelling Ukraine forces 24/7...a.o. MoA has stories on Ukraine military reaching hospitals are often not in such a bad shape...If you are to close to a grenade you are dead or that badly wounded you do not get to a (public) hospital...(DJ-There may be military ones doing amputations etc...). 

Western push to continu this "war" is based on propaganda of a corrupt and fascist puppet regime trying to hold on to power...The basic idea for this war (as so many other western wars; Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Yemen) was unrealistic;

-The west is losing the sanctions war

-Ukraine had NO chance in a military confrontation (and its men are being slaugthered)

-Unclear western goals

DJ-Finland and Sweden now ask for NATO membership. There will be a NATO meeting later this month but the official procedure is not short. Some EU eaders" also pushing for Ukraine in the EU....

My impression is the "momentum" for these steps may be shifting fast. Realism is that Finland, Sweden joining NATO is further escalation. Not only making relations with Russia much worse, also other-non-western-countries are "not happy" with a never ending (global) NATO...From India, Indonesia to Venezuela, Argentina the idea may be growing a "global NATO" is a neo-colonial US army...

Most EU countries are not willing to accept Ukraine as a full EU-member...There are several other countries (former Yugoslavia) waiting for years...Turkey was kept out...now opening the door for Ukraine-a totally destroyed corrupt country in a pointless (civil) war may not be "an act of wisdom". The EU already made promisses on payment of Ukraine bills that are pretty insane...will see lots of protests in member states...

DJ-My impression is the west did get itself involved in another insane unwinnable war...relations with many non-western countries are getting bad...economic damage is getting major. 

If biden, bojo and maybe Poland (Baltic States ?) want to further escalate this war the price the west will have to pay is getting that high no sane person could want to go that way....

In combination with a worsening pandemic (is it wave-5 ???), climate disasters, getting close to hyperinflation and -later on- mass unemployment "public support" for further escalation is eroding fast...Western PR/propaganda may have been "well organized"..but "If Ukraine is winning the war it better win the war fast" 

My impression is that-after a lot of military/intel- now from economists there is growing alarm....The west is destroying itself while not getting any benifits out of it...

DJ-I have the freedom to write/post this. In many countries I would end up in problems for writing this critical....So I am not a fan of Putin/Russia, China, Iran...but you "do not have to like someone to live with someone on the same planet"....

Maybe as an end for this writing; further western escalation may see a need to "go nuclear" rather fast. Any NATO intervention in Ukraine may start conflicts China, Iran play a role in...The west will be overstretched in a war far bigger then any war since 1945...Giving room for "other countries" to reach their goals"...The Israel-Iran conflict could go nuclear...

Since Russia only involved something like 10% in its "military action" in Ukraine further western escalation would result in very heavy western losses...we should NOT go that way !




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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 10:40pm

DJ

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNdPrJ6BmME[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNdPrJ6BmME - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNdPrJ6BmME ; Judge Napolitano/Scott Ritter

"We"in the west-are paying ALL of Ukraine governments costs....Finland joining NATO is breaking the post-world war 2 peace agreement with the Soviet Union. (DJ-Finland ended up with Germany as an ally-but Germany first was neutral in the German-Russian conflict, even tried to make a peacedeal because of the hitler-stalin pact. Russia-stalin-ended up with that "pact" because France and the UK did not want to work with the Soviet Union in 1939...). 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvjp-BRtsU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvjp-BRtsU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvjp-BRtsU Alex Christoforou;Finland, Sweden NATO ready. Russia's new Ukraine-EU red line. Vasquez blue check mark. Updates 1 Topic 538

A few reactions; Article 10 of the NATO charter clearly states that any country wishing to enter NATO must prove it is not a threat to the alliance. Finland is clearly a direct threat and Putin has stated on record that they would respond with “technical military response”. I am more interested to see which countries veto Finlands request to join. Gas supply will be cut either way so good luck walking that one back with Russia.

and

The 1948 treaty of Finland with the USSR was replaced by a treaty in 1992 with Russia which expressly forbid NATO membership. The 1948 was imposed on Finland for (a) breaking the 'Winter War ' treaty of 1942 and (b) co-operating with Nazi Germany and assisting in the siege of Leningrad (1 million Russian dead) and attacks on the convoys to Murmansk and Archangel (many British ships sunk and sailors lost).

and Ritter’s comment is not only telling, it places the entire notion of international peace agreements in question.  The Minsk Agreements may support this notion

DJ, The ease with wich "western leaders" make agreements to break agreements, simply step out of difficult deals (Iran-deal, Paris-climate plan) when they do not get their way is shocking. The US is even going further trying to break open old agreements. Joining Japan against Russia in a conflict going back to world war two. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russia-prepares-cut-gas-supplies-finland-tomorrow-local-media[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russia-prepares-cut-gas-supplies-finland-tomorrow-local-media - https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/russia-prepares-cut-gas-supplies-finland-tomorrow-local-media also no electricity from Russia to Finland any longer...[url]https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12445766[/url] or https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12445766 - https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12445766 ;The Russian company RAO Nordic is suspending the import of electricity to Finland due to the difficulty of payment transactions. The price of electricity is expected to rise when imports from Russia end.

DJ Finland is already buying Russian gas from Germany-at a higher price. To avoid payment in Rubles...most likely that is also a factor for electricity. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Saint_Petersburg[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Saint_Petersburg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Saint_Petersburg ;The city with its vicinity has an estimated population of about 6 million people. According to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosstat" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Rosstat - Rosstat , in 2021 the city's population is 5,384,342  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Saint_Petersburg#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1]

DJ Finlands total population is under 5,6 million...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/us-seeks-asean-proxy-willing-to-poke-china.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/us-seeks-asean-proxy-willing-to-poke-china.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/us-seeks-asean-proxy-willing-to-poke-china.html  

a comment; If we can’t poke the Bear we poke the Panda.

Of course Marcos jr/Duterte jr. as president/vice president in the Philippines is "far from ideal"...However the Philippines, like Pakistan may be better of being able to do trade both with "the west" and "the east". 

Turkey is more or less in the same position. [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-not-favorable-terror-safe-havens-sweden-finland-entering-nato-erdogan[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-not-favorable-terror-safe-havens-sweden-finland-entering-nato-erdogan - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-not-favorable-terror-safe-havens-sweden-finland-entering-nato-erdogan DJ-The Kurdish organizations in Sweden are just part of the story. Turkey-by now-may be hoping for de-escalation of the US global agression....

In my opinion; YES the position of the US/the west as global #1 is under pressure. With that also freedom of expression-a democratic right-may be under pressure. But you do not defend that by working with all kind of dictators, religious fanatics (IS in Syria, Iraq etc. Polish extremist catholics [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-poland-next[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-poland-next - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-poland-next ;

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said in a Telegraph column that he considers the Russian world "a cancer that poses a deadly threat to the whole of Europe." in his opinion, it needs to be "eradicated."

Also, Polish President Andrzej Duda said that Russia would be forced to pay indemnity to Ukraine. )

DJ, It may not be a hard job to start a fire-but containing it can become impossible when you wait to long...

Again, China, Iran (etc) know they are "next in line" in the US(and UK) plans...They will have been coordinating with Russia in the last two months how to react when...Further escalation of NATO activities in Ukraine could see China, Iran "others" taking their oppertunity elsewhere...

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- Eric Feigl-Ding

DJ, An Israeli military sniper killed one journalist from AlJazeera, wounded another; [url]https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/13/al-jazeera-condemns-israeli-attack-on-shireen-abu-aklehs-funeral[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/13/al-jazeera-condemns-israeli-attack-on-shireen-abu-aklehs-funeral - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/13/al-jazeera-condemns-israeli-attack-on-shireen-abu-aklehs-funeral ; The news network said that attack on mourners participating in the funeral ‘violates all norms and international laws’.

from the Israeli side [url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/qatar-to-help-iran-free-moneys-frozen-by-sanctions/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/qatar-to-help-iran-free-moneys-frozen-by-sanctions/ - https://www.debka.com/mivzak/qatar-to-help-iran-free-moneys-frozen-by-sanctions/ ;Qatar emir Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani arrived in Tehran on Thursday, the first Gulf ruler to pay an official visit to the Islamic Republic. Sources in Doha report that the emir promised to help Iran get its hands on the funds frozen by Western sanctions. The Qatari ruler next visits the UK and Germany.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_Media_Network[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_Media_Network - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_Media_Network ;Al Jazeera Media Network (AJMN) (Arabic: الجزيرة‎, romanized: al-jazīrah, IPA: [æl (d)ʒæˈziːrɐ], literally "The Peninsula", referring to the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Peninsula" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Qatar Peninsula - Qatar Peninsula ) is a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Qatar - Qatari   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_broadcast" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="International broadcast - international   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Public broadcasting - public   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_conglomerate" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Media conglomerate - media conglomerate  headquartered at Qatar Radio and Television Corporation Complex in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_Al_Sail" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Wadi Al Sail - Wadi Al Sail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad-Dawhah_(municipality)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Ad-Dawhah (municipality) - Doha .

The Israeli claims that "a Palestinian shooter shot the reporters"  is nonsense...Israel was seeing some improvement of relations with at least some of its neighbours...shooting Arab reporters does "not help"...attacking a funeral procession for unclear reasons is "sick"....

-Scott Ritter made clear there is a very big difference between the "military action" now in Ukraine and all out war...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-tonight-most-violent-rocket-and-artillery-attacks-in-8-years[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-tonight-most-violent-rocket-and-artillery-attacks-in-8-years - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-tonight-most-violent-rocket-and-artillery-attacks-in-8-years DJ-In the east of Ukraine-on the frontlines-what are supposed to be Ukraine military-hardly any training-are being mixed with the ground....They have NO !!!! chance at all...It is totally disgusting the "west" is pushing for a continuation of this slaughtering...It is sick Ukraine commanders on the frontlines let this happen...it has NO military use...

DJ-I did see on YouTube some time ago a short movie young german soldiers had made in january 1945 on the Romania frontline. Those 16, 17 y/o playing with the snow in that movie within days would be blown to pieces by the Red Army artillery...In Europe most of the people killed died between D-Day-june 6 1944 and may 8-1945...Like Ukraine now, Germany then-had lost the war...There was no point-even in a "military" sense to keep fighting/killing...

Eisenhowers warning against the Military Industrial Complex-with some people making a lot of profits out of never ending wars-are forgotten ? Is the US main export product war ? 

DJ-The US is WRONG in the idea that Europe, Asia will be the battlegrounds if the basic conflict is between the US and Russia, Iran, China, North Korea etc. The present pandemic may result in nuclear weapon-use EARLIER !!!

Diplomacy could have helped the west much better then confrontation. NATO moving an inch further, Finland/Sweden but also Poland, Romania moving into Ukraine is asking for major escalation...Russia (but also China, North Korea) are willing to go nuclear whan they think it is needed. The US already did use nuclear weapons earlier (to slow down the Russian offensive against Japan in august 1945. The US was not willing to invade Japan, Russia was willing to do so...). 

We deserve better ! 



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 1:46am

Since it is a very good article [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/race-break-russia-china-alliance-ukraine-asia-pacific[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/race-break-russia-china-alliance-ukraine-asia-pacific - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/race-break-russia-china-alliance-ukraine-asia-pacific ;

Due to this intellectual blindness, even among many intelligent experts within the alternative media community, I will take this opportunity to briefly assess some of the key elements of the parallel features of both operations that have been deployed to destroy both Russia and China. We will begin by looking at the color revolutionary tactics, followed by ‘Gladio stay behinds’, military encirclement, biowarfare and finally the use of ‘fifth columns’.

Color Revolutionary Tactics

Over the past decades, both Russia and China have contended with obsessive efforts to carve up and destabilize their governments utilizing “democracy promoting/anti corruption” organizations tied to western intel have fortunately failed to Balkanize them as seen in the tragic case of Yugoslavia.

The late geopolitical guru Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote passionately of his vision of a carved-up Russia in his https://archive.org/details/ZbigniewBrzezinskiTheGrandChessboardAmericanPrimacyAndItsGeostrategicImperatives1998BasicBooks" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - 1997 Grand Chessboard saying: “A loosely confederated Russia- composed of a European Russia, a Siberian Republic, and a Far Eastern Republic- would find it easier to cultivate closer economic regulations with Europe, with the new states of Central Asia and with East Asia, which would thereby accelerate Russia’s own development.”

Over the years, western funded movements in China have arisen calling openly for breaking up China into no less than five ethno-nationalist micro-states called ‘East Turkestan, The Free State of Tibet, Canton and Manchuria.’

Purged multibillionaire deep state operative Guo Wengui (aka: Miles Guo), now operating from New York, has gone so far as to establish an international insurrectionary organization called https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/what-is-the-new-federal-state-of-china/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - ‘The New Federal State of China’ with a shiny new flag, constitution and cheesy anthem for the post-CCP China which will undoubtedly happen any day within Guo’s wildest imagination.

The leaders of both nations have clearly identified “color revolutionary” tactics as an active form of asymmetrical warfare leading both states to ban a wide spectrum of western-funded NGOs (or if permitted to exist within their territories to be forced to register as ‘foreign agents’). While the color revolution financing king George Soros was banned from China https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/08/18/how-chinas-gorbachev-was-flushed-in-1989/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - back in 1989 , Russia took longer to gain the power and confidence to ban the economic hitman’s Open Society operations which finally occurred in 2015.

Gladio-type “stay-behinds” on their borders.

The asymmetrical warfare tool basket doesn’t stop at color revolutionary tactics, but relies upon networks of provocateurs and extremists who often find their roots in the non-punishment of virulent war criminals in the wake of WW2.

Those second and third generation fascist stay-behinds https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/04/14/operation-gladio-how-nato-conducted-secret-war-against-european-citizens-and-their-democratically-elected-governments/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - who were incorporated into western intelligence under the helm of NATO after WW2 remains one of the most uncomfortable and dangerous secrets of the modern age.

Weaponized ideological groups carefully groomed by Anglo-American intelligence since WWII and who continued to glorify Nazi-collaborators as “great heroes” played a major role both during the Cold War, and also today’s Banderite-filled age with https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/04/04/how-ukrainian-nationalist-movement-post-wwii-was-bought-and-paid-for-by-cia/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - neo-Nazi battalions driven obsessively to carry out jihad against Russia as their spiritual forefathers had done during WW2.

This problem is not isolated to Eastern Europe, but persists in China’s own back yard where the American military colony of Japan still https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/07/japans-new-fascism/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - maintains a strong tradition of treating WWII fascist war criminals as heroes (much https://www.mfa.gov.cn/ce/cefj/eng/sgxx/dsjh/t1119754.htm" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - to China’s chagrin ).

One of the largest parties occupying 30% of the Japanese parliamentary seats (and headed by former PM Shinzo Abe) is the Nippon Kaigi party which claims openly that “Japan should be applauded for liberating much of East Asia” during WW2.

Despite many anti-fascist impulses in Japan seeking to maintain peaceful coexistence with their Eurasian neighbors, the Nippon Kaigi goes so far as to deny that Japan committed any atrocities to the Chinese during WW2 while trying to maintain the thesis that Japan was on the side of justice by working with Hitler. Keep in mind that this is also the same colony (now hosting over 50,000 US troops) which saw former PM Shinzo Abe call publicly https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-time-japan-considered-nuclear-weapons-says-shinzo-abe-mqztd0tfx" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); -  for acquiring US-owned nuclear weapons  to defend against China one week after Zelensky made that same call on behalf of Ukraine in Munich on February 19th.

Full Spectrum Dominance: Atlantic, Arctic and Pacific

Like Russia, who has watched “full spectrum dominance” wrap around her perimeter over the course of 20+ years, China has also been looking at ongoing efforts to create a “NATO of the Pacific” termed “the Quad” in her backyard.

This toxic idea has been championed by NATO-connected think tanks like the Atlantic Council and CFR for years and grows directly out of Obama’s 2012 ‘Asia Pivot’ strategy which saw a broad extension of missile systems, trident-bearing submarines, provocative “freedom of navigation” exercises, military bases and efforts to impose US-controlled governments hostile to China in the Pacific region.

The ABM-aspect of this program (which experts agree can be easily converted from “defensive” into “offensive”) is reflected in the THAAD missile system https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/thaad-missile-defence-system-south-korea-us-china-6434536/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - already stationed in South Korea which currently hosts over 28,000 US troops. Nominally justifying its existence to stop the “North Korean threat”, the reality is that this system has always been aimed at China.

Describing the $762 billion National Defense Authorization Act of 2022 which received nearly total bipartisan support, analyst Michael Klare https://tomdispatch.com/none-dare-call-it-encirclement/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - observed :

“The gigantic 2022 defense bill — passed with overwhelming support from both parties — provides a detailed blueprint for surrounding China with a potentially suffocating network of U.S. bases, military forces, and increasingly militarized partner states. The goal is to enable Washington to barricade that country’s military inside its own territory and potentially cripple its economy in any future crisis. For China’s leaders, who surely can’t tolerate being encircled in such a fashion, it’s an open invitation to… well, there’s no point in not being blunt… fight their way out of confinement.”

Taiwan as Ukraine of the Pacific

Obviously within this entire mess, Taiwan (which has been an Anglo-American plaything since 1949) is currently acting like the “Ukraine of the Pacific” with many leading agents operating throughout the government calling openly for US military defense of China’s autonomous province from the “evil commie” mainlanders.

Biden himself has pledged that Taiwan can “count on America’s support” were an invasion to break out at any time. These supportive words were backed up with a $750 million deal to provide a Howitzer military system to Taiwan in August 2021, a $100 million deal to supply and upgrade Taiwan’s patriot missile systems https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/8/us-approves-support-deal-for-taiwan-patriot-missiles" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - on February 8, 2022 and another $95 million missile deal https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/6/us-approves-95m-weapons-sale-for-taiwan" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - on April 6, 2022. After the second of these three deals, the Taiwanese foreign ministry sounded like it was trying to out-Zelensky Zelensky saying:

“In the face of China’s continued military expansion and provocative actions, our country will maintain its national security with a solid defence, and continue to deepen the close security partnership between Taiwan and the United States.”

China’s concerns over the vast expansion of US efforts to turn Taiwan into a Pacific Ukraine (including a doubling of military officials in the US embassy compound in the past year) https://www.voanews.com/a/pentagon-us-nearly-doubled-military-personnel-stationed-in-taiwan-this-year-/6337695.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - are very real.

Biowarfare in the 21st Century

Then there is the serious issue of the Pentagon’s bioweapons infrastructure that has demonstrated an ethnic-targeting feature as outlined in the September 2000 PNAC manifesto “ https://www.transcend.org/tms/2019/12/rebuilding-americas-defenses-a-summary-of-the-pnac/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Rebuilding Americas Defenses ”. In this bone-chilling neocon manifesto, its authors stated that in the 21st century “combat will likely take place in new dimensions: In space, cyber-space and perhaps the world of microbes… advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool”.

Today http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202204/13/WS625699dea310fd2b29e56c6b_2.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - over 320 Pentagon-run biolabs are scattered strategically around the world with a very active program titled “Jupitr” and “Centaur” located in http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202204/13/WS625699dea310fd2b29e56c6b_2.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); -  in South Korea.  This later program has caused grave concern to both the Chinese and many Koreans since Obama launched inaugurated the program in 2010 with an executive order that stated “a robust and productive scientific enterprise that utilizes biological select agents and toxins is essential to national security.”

This was the same team that brought us the Obama-Lugar partnership that established a https://theparadise.ng/president-obama-played-key-role-in-taking-over-soviet-era-bioweapons-labs-in-ukraine-unearthed-documents-show/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); -  vast bio-laboratory infrastructure in Georgia while Obama was still just another Soros-controlled Senator with Presidential ambitions.

Work on some of the deadliest toxins in the world has been conducted within the US run biolabs which include work on botulinum, ricin, staphylococcal, anthrax, plague and more. In 2015 the US military was caught illegally shipping samples https://www.transcend.org/tms/2019/12/rebuilding-americas-defenses-a-summary-of-the-pnac/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - of live anthrax via FedEx to the US laboratory at the Oran Air base 70 km south of Seoul resulting in civilian protests across the nation although no evidence of any change in policy by the Americans.

Japan’s sordid past is again brought back into the story, as Finian https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/04/24/pentagon-biological-warfare-built-war-crimes-of-fascist-japan-nazi-germany/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Cunningham’s recent Strategic Culture Foundation study on the origins of US bioweapons complex zeroed in on the Military Industrial Complex’s absorption of the genocidal “Unit 731” under the control of Shiro Ishii. Cunningham wrote:

“Ishii’s Unit 731 is estimated to have caused up to 500,000 deaths during the war from the use of biological warfare by dropping pathogens from airplanes on Chinese cities in Hunan and Zhejiang provinces. The unit also carried out diabolic forced experiments on Chinese and Russian prisoners of war to study the epidemiology of diseases and vaccines. Inmates were infected with pathogens and subjected to horrible agonizing deaths… Shiro Ishii and his criminal network were never brought to trial following the war despite earnest Soviet requests. Instead, the Americans who occupied mainland Japan granted him and his team of doctors immunity from prosecution in exchange for exclusive access to the biological and chemical warfare experiments. The Pentagon assigned its experts from Fort Detrick, Maryland, to tap the Japanese trove of data.”

This list would not be complete without the last consideration…


DJ, Again the alternative for confrontation is diplomacy...Looking back at western foreign policy since 1990-end of Soviet Union, "the wall" etc. diplomacy would have resulted in a much more harmonic western led globe...Instead confrontation-breaking up Yugoslavia, involvement in all kinds of "protests", "revolution/coups" and sabotage now is resulting in that same west getting isolated and marginalized...wrong choices bring wrong results...

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DJ Good there has been contacts between the US and Russia on this level. The west may be moving into an economic crisis worse then that of 1929....Since both the US$ and Euro/€ are (most) "fiat-currencies" the economic war can result in both the $ and € ending up at 10% or even less of their present "buying power"; hyperinflation. 

Before starting a conflict it is wise to know the positions of all participants. The west failed to get a realistic view and now may face the costs...The value of both dollar and Euro may be in Asian hands...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 10:35pm

DJ;

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/if-ukraine-is-winning-why-is-the-us-requesting-a-ceasefire.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/if-ukraine-is-winning-why-is-the-us-requesting-a-ceasefire.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/if-ukraine-is-winning-why-is-the-us-requesting-a-ceasefire.html ; There have been Ukraine claims of stopping (pro)Russian forces crossing a river in the Donbas. However the pictures meant as proof may show armoured cars no longer in use with the Russian army (but the separatists may still use them ?) being destroyed-Ukraine ones with a "Z" painted on them ? (Sometimes the "Z" is not damaged even when a wreck is burned out...). Also indications pro-Russian forces are now west of that river...indicating either they were not stopped at all or did cross the river on another location...

DJ-Also NL news reporting a "victory" near Charkov; most likely (pro)Russian forces simply pulled back....Ukraine head of intel claims in august Ukraine would be able to "turn the tide"; Ukraine would have beaten Russia before the end of the year...

Meanwhile separatists did publish a picture of their first catched US howitzer...DJ-The picture I get is of massive losses for the Ukraine army. Reservists-often without both training and command-simply have no chance. So lots of western weapons-even the more heavy ones-may reach the frontlines only ending up in (pro)Russian hands...

[url]https://southfront.org/trust-issues-us-removed-digital-fire-control-systems-from-m777-howitzers-supplied-to-kiev-forces/[/url] or https://southfront.org/trust-issues-us-removed-digital-fire-control-systems-from-m777-howitzers-supplied-to-kiev-forces/ - https://southfront.org/trust-issues-us-removed-digital-fire-control-systems-from-m777-howitzers-supplied-to-kiev-forces/ ; 

The US may have removed all digital fire control systems from the M777 supplied to Kiev forces out of fear that they will end up being captured, or even sold to the Russian military.

Many recent reports in the mainstream media raised the alarm about the fate of the weapons the West is pumping into Ukraine. While small weapons, like man-portable anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, could end up in the European black market, more advanced heaver weapons could end up in the hands of Russia.

Despite all warnings, the West continues to ship loads of weapons to Kiev forces on the hope of thwarting the Russian special military operation in Ukraine.

DJ, There have been several contacts between "the west" and Russia. The US-Russia minister of defense contact -started by the us calling for a ceasefire- may indicate Ukraine is simply not going the way the west hoped it would be. A pause only would end up more weapons/men send to frontlines, for that matter a ceasefire is not in the interest of Russia. 

Scholtz-Germany-called Putin has been linked to the west still willing to buy Russia energy. Germany now get its Russian gas via Northstream-1. Russia stopped gas transport via Ukraine to (a.o.) Poland. My impression is "payment in Rubles" as a rule for new contracts for now may be a "point of discussion". This may also be the main point on Finland no longer getting Russian electricity.  

Since the west made the choice to privatize "power" however by now over 30 companies may have agreed to buying oil, gas from Russia in Rubles...

-Sweden, Finland joining NATO only can happen if all 30 present NATO members agree. The suggestion is that Turkey is using the Kurds as a tool for getting US F-35's. However-Turkey did see war east of it in Iraq, the south of it in Syria, now north of it in Ukraine...DJ-I think the Turks may be fed up with all the wars in their region-limiting their economy. The EU closed its doors for them (DJ-And I think for not very good reasons; religion should not be a reason for exclusion). 

Also other countries may not be willing to "open the doors for Finland and Sweden" now...(I hoped NL would be willing to kick that can down the road...but no-our neo-liberal government thinks further provocation of Russia; by Finland breaking neutrality promisses/guarantees made to Russia after 1945, is "wisdom"). 

The SE of the EU may NOT agree on any oil-boycot of Russia...Since there is no replacement. 

-[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-looks-kazakhstan-form-new-trade-route-bypass-russia[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-looks-kazakhstan-form-new-trade-route-bypass-russia - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-looks-kazakhstan-form-new-trade-route-bypass-russia DJ One goal of TIP Turkey-Iran-Pakistan cooperation was a landbridge between China and the EU. The US recent coup in Pakistan may block that link. Half choices by the west on Iran also makes TIP more regional (could be of use for Chinese investments (a.o. in mining, oil) in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria...

However Kazakhstan did stay neutral in the Russian-US proxy war. In the east it has links with China-in the west (via Azerbaijan) with Turkey...

-[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-05-14/coming-proxy-war-china[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-05-14/coming-proxy-war-china - https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-05-14/coming-proxy-war-china DJ-The US goal is "staying #1" . So Ukraine/Russia is closing one China-EU route, the Pakistan coup may replace Iran sanctions as stopping another EU-China route...A third route has Turkey-Kazahkstan...The recent US coups there (in both countries). failed...

DJ-The US was willing to supply Taiwan with more US weapons-however a lot of those weapons now go to Ukraine. Both China and Russia may increase "pressure" on Taiwan. Both in population and as a country Taiwan is much smaller then Ukraine. IF the west would go on "all out sanctions" against China then the PRC may have no further "incentives" NOT to invade/take over Taiwan...It may be even get pushed in that direction...US promisses of "support" (again) will be empty. (There is no way a "global NATO" could mean much if Russian and Chinese forces control the sea and sky around Taiwan. Nuclear war could be a next option...). 

-[url]https://southfront.org/indian-civilizationalism-a-potential-next-flashpoint/[/url] or https://southfront.org/indian-civilizationalism-a-potential-next-flashpoint/ - https://southfront.org/indian-civilizationalism-a-potential-next-flashpoint/ Modi-India dreams of a "Hindu world" from Afghanistan to Myanmar...Turkey is dreaming of a Turkish world -in a nostalgia for the Ottoman/East Roman Empire like days.....One could claim also religious groups have a sort of "expansionism"...Russia invading Ukraine to "save Russians" as part of a "Russian empire". 

However both the US and most European countries once controlled much more countries in colonial days-a "global NATO" would fit such a plan. And once one "dream"collides with another you end up in conflict...

DJ-The present CoViD-pandemic (global cases now +0,7%; yet another global wave starting) may be behind the increase of wars. Also climate change speeding up, racism/hate crimes in many countries (I do not know how many homosexuals, women get killed per hour on a global scale but it is to many...) is a big problem....

Humanity is in a crisis...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 15 2022 at 10:17pm

DJ,

Among others; [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQcodEBsPGo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQcodEBsPGo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQcodEBsPGo   Alex Christoforou-from Cyprus : EU gas price caps. Lavrov says west started "hybrid war." Weapons hit blackmarket. Update 2 Topic 542 If Ukraine Is Winning Why Is The U.S. Requesting A Ceasefire? https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05...

DJ; Russia will not give up a major part of Ukraine. De-dollarization main part of strategy. DJ-I think "the west" loves to ignore that point-it is basiccally NATO, Japan against Russia....Australia in name does join but they compete with Russia-very limited trade. 

The economic war is already much wider then NATO against Russia. It is fiat-currencies against gold/energy backed currencies...

DJ-Lots of discussion on western weapons. If they are that bad how can it be that the black market has so much interest ? Scott Ritter seems to claim western weapons DO matter...Ukraine seems to be able to increase defenses...

From [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/if-ukraine-is-winning-why-is-the-us-requesting-a-ceasefire.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/if-ukraine-is-winning-why-is-the-us-requesting-a-ceasefire.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/if-ukraine-is-winning-why-is-the-us-requesting-a-ceasefire.html ;

There are recently a number of other issues that also go in favor of Russia:


DJ A major other development ; 


and [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/reports-u-s-admiral-surrenders-to-russia-in-mariupol-ukraine[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/reports-u-s-admiral-surrenders-to-russia-in-mariupol-ukraine - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/reports-u-s-admiral-surrenders-to-russia-in-mariupol-ukraine ;

Along with U.S. Admiral Olson (Ret'd), British Lieutenant Colonel John Bailey and 4 NATO military instructors also allegedly surrendered to Russia.

There is also news of Canadian, French, and Turkish military officers still hiding inside tunnels beneath the Azovstal Steel Mill in Mariupol.

What these men were allegedly doing there and who sent them there, is not yet known.

If confirmed by the Pentagon, the massive question this raises is why are U.S. military officers, and the military officers from other NATO countries, inside Ukraine at all, and who authorized them to participate in waging undeclared war upon Russia?

(Hal Turner Remark: I have reached out to the Pentagon Public Affairs Duty Officer via the off-hours/Weekend media contact telephone number, seeking Pentagon comment.   The Duty Officer I spoke with requested I send them details via email, which has been done.

If a reply comment is received from the Pentagon Press Office, it will be added to this story.)

 

UPDATE 7:02 PM EDT --

There is a dispute as to WHERE this photo was taken.   There is a claim it was taken in Luhansk, and not in Mariupol.  There is also a dispute as to WHEN the photo was taken, with claims that it was taken on April 14.

The "where" and "when" arguments do not take issue with WHO is allegedly shown in the photo.

 

RELATED: Reports Seven (7) Other Americans KILLED in Ukraine

Seven (7) Americans were killed in Rubizhnoye, who participated in the battles on the side of Kyiv, according to Alaudinov, an assistant to the head of Chechnya,.

He showed a document of one of them with the name Joseph Ward Clark from Washington state.

DJ, Earlier there was a claim of a high rank Canadian military (retired) taken POW and to Moscow. May have been running a bio-lab. 

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DJ, The west was open about some parts of Ukraine forces were "not very acceptable" untill a few months ago...

[url]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-scholzs-party-defeated-in-bellwether-north-rhine-westphalia-election/a-61803497[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/germany-scholzs-party-defeated-in-bellwether-north-rhine-westphalia-election/a-61803497 - https://www.dw.com/en/germany-scholzs-party-defeated-in-bellwether-north-rhine-westphalia-election/a-61803497 ; In a blow to Chancellor Olaf Scholz's SPD party, voters backed the conservatives, CDU, in an election Germany's most populous state. The Greens meanwhile more than doubled the number of votes they received.

DJ, also trade unions may drop the SDP so Scholz government is facing a crisis. A lot of German economy is based on family-bussiness-they usuallly support the Christian Democrats. Larger companies have a link with the "liberals" FDP-but so far that party has been limited. In this election the "workers" shifted from the SDP to the Green Party. 

Germany is the main factor in Europe/EU. France is #2. Both countries in my view will not keep backing the US/UK hard line for that much longer....The economic price is getting to high. 

Finland plans to join NATO could see electricity, gas from Russia being cut of. (However it is companies not countries deciding on that. A lot of the bigger companies are international and may be willing to pay for Russian energy in Rubles. Russia however is shifting away from the west-enough "friendly buyers"...

DJ-In my opinion the west made two major errors;

-1 Russia does NOT accept NATO moving east-and is willing to fight for that. 

-2 Russia is not isolated at all-sanctionswar is not working but doing much more harm to the west.

DJ; There seems to be more contacts between Russia and the US, France, Germany...I think all are interested in a "way out" without losing face. If both Russia and the "west" are not able to make some kind of agreement-and Russia does no longer trust the west-further escalation may be around the corner. 

The "weak spot" for the west is in their "global economy/fiat currency". To build more weapons they need materials from around the globe...want to pay for that in $ or €....But after Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria-wars the west was unable to win-a lot of countries may think twice...

A "global NATO" is seen as neo-colonialism...The "petro-dollar" was not the choice of most countries but enforced by the west...

For that matter the risks for nuclear war are still major. North Korea now in a corona-crisis with nuclear weapons, Israel facing Iran restoring relations in the Middle East also increase risks. 



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 16 2022 at 9:35pm

DJ

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SlSILtlpc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SlSILtlpc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SlSILtlpc ;SATURDAY MORNING LIVE WITH SCOTT RITTER AND RAY MCGOVERN.

Maybe main point; If Russian goal is to demilitarize Ukraine they may be finding themselves NOT getting that. They may be able to get the east and south of Ukraine-but have to take over all of Ukraine to end the war. "The west" is sending that much weapons-Ukraine still has enough people to fight, it can become a long war...

DJ-The west is also financing the Ukraine...So-YES-Russia may take over some parts-the proxy war goes on.

Some other points; 

-Scott Ritter claims the goal is to put medium range (nuclear) weapons from Finland to (the remainder of) Ukraine; US nuclear dominance. The US also wants to dominate China. 

-China would like to avoid war with/on Taiwan, Finland possibly joining NATO may increase risks for Russia ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg is not that far from the Finland borders. The urban area has more inhabitants then all of Finland).

-US nuclear weapons more and more are the only meaningfull "military usefull tool"; NATO not ready for a major conventional war. 

DJ-Both "blocks" East versus West are not willing/able to give up. For that matter the economic war is important. However if one "block" gets cornered there is still risk of nuclear war....

Only way out has to be in talks and realization that nuclear all-out war is the end...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-ukraine-azov-brigade-nazis-agree-to-surrender[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-ukraine-azov-brigade-nazis-agree-to-surrender - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-ukraine-azov-brigade-nazis-agree-to-surrender  

-Russia freeing troops for other fights

-Very likely we will learn more on NATO involvement/biolabs etc

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reuters-mocked-ukraine-war-photo-showing-troops-fighting-withpaintball-guns[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reuters-mocked-ukraine-war-photo-showing-troops-fighting-withpaintball-guns - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/reuters-mocked-ukraine-war-photo-showing-troops-fighting-withpaintball-guns ; The photo and tweet stayed live for hours throughout the morning, even as social media users expressed in hundreds of comments (and counting) that this demonstrates why it it remains hard to trust mainstream media reporting on complex foreign conflicts, especially Ukraine.

DJ, MSM copying press releases from governments often without much thinking. Most likely cost-related but also critical questions may close doors. 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-orders-us-troops-back-war-torn-somalia-reversing-trump-withdrawal[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-orders-us-troops-back-war-torn-somalia-reversing-trump-withdrawal - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-orders-us-troops-back-war-torn-somalia-reversing-trump-withdrawal fighting terrorists sponsored by US allies-so far-in the Arab world...Providing an excuse for US military presence in Africa-where Russian/Chinese influence is growing...

DJ-The present global crisis is no longer ideological; both the US and Russia have a "moderate right wing government", both have major interests in fossil fuels, religious influence...(for that matter Iran could be in the list as well). Europe-at least parts of it-have much less religious influence. China has a form of "state controlled capitalism"...

What is missing is the wider perspective; the urgent need to cooperate on fast worsening global problems...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 18 2022 at 9:55pm

Good discussion/info at [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SyY0tGiUg[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SyY0tGiUg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SyY0tGiUg ; 

SCOTT RITTER ON TURKEY, NATO, AZOVSTAL, THE ARCTIC COUNCIL, POLAND, UKRAINE AND, FUTURE OF THE USA!

DJ, The nordic/arctic route is getting more and more important. Some of the northern oil/gas exploration in Russia only has sea/airlinks. Main export shifting towards China/Asia.

(Chances for a BOE-Blue Ocean Event-not much ice left in the Arctic is increasing. Making the Arctic Ocean a link between the Atlantic and Pacific. Of course climate wise it will be very bad...).

Alexander Mercouris more or less hinting at increase of contacts between "the west" and Russia. 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/how-europe-was-pushed-towards-economic-suicide.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/how-europe-was-pushed-towards-economic-suicide.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/how-europe-was-pushed-towards-economic-suicide.html ; 

In the words of one serious observer:

Today, we see that for purely political reasons, driven by their own ambitions, and under pressure from their US overlord, the European countries are imposing more sanctions on the oil and gas markets which will lead to more inflation. Instead of admitting their mistakes, they are looking for a guilty party elsewhere.
...
One gets the impression that Western politicians and economists simply forget basic economic laws or just choose to ignore them.

DJ-Some nuances; [url]https://www.dw.com/en/4-eu-countries-pledge-tenfold-rise-in-north-sea-wind-power/a-61840526[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/4-eu-countries-pledge-tenfold-rise-in-north-sea-wind-power/a-61840526 - https://www.dw.com/en/4-eu-countries-pledge-tenfold-rise-in-north-sea-wind-power/a-61840526 ;Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands and Denmark plan to build 150 gigawatts of offshore wind capacity in the North Sea to help achieve the EU's climate goals and, eventually, break away from Russian energy.

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This capacity would be enough to power 230 million European homes. The ambition is also to use the green power to make  https://www.dw.com/en/hydrogen-whats-the-big-deal/a-59076741" style="color: rgb(0, 135, 235); text-decoration: none; - hydrogen and green fuels for heavy industries and transportation that cannot easily be directly electrified, Danish Business Minister Simon Kollerup said.

According to Denmark's Climate and Energy Minister Dan Jorgensen, the cost of installing 150 gigawatts of offshore wind power would amount to hundreds of billions of dollars and would be financed mainly by private investors with small state subsidies.

The European Commission targets 300 gigawatts of wind at sea by 2050, up from the roughly 16 gigawatts currently installed.

and [url]https://www.dw.com/en/eu-unveils-300-billion-plan-to-reduce-its-energy-dependency-on-russia/a-61838801[/url] or https://www.dw.com/en/eu-unveils-300-billion-plan-to-reduce-its-energy-dependency-on-russia/a-61838801 - https://www.dw.com/en/eu-unveils-300-billion-plan-to-reduce-its-energy-dependency-on-russia/a-61838801 ; To reduce dependence on Russian fossil fuels, Brussels is offering a three-pronged plan including a shift to importing more non-Russian gas, faster adoption of  https://www.dw.com/en/un-calls-for-renewable-energy-push-following-damning-climate-report/a-61837833" style="color: rgb(0, 135, 235); text-decoration: none; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); - renewable energy , and greater energy-saving efforts.

DJ Renewable energy is the future, fossil fuels are "old"...[url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1265960.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1265960.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202205/1265960.shtml ;

Pollution caused some 9 million people to die prematurely in 2019, according to a new global report published Wednesday, with experts raising alarm over increasing deaths from breathing outside air and the "horrifying" toll of lead poisoning.

Human-created waste in the air, water and soil rarely kills people immediately, but causes instead heart disease, cancer, respiratory problems, diarrhea and other serious illnesses.  

The Lancet Commission on pollution and health said the impact from pollution on global health remains "much greater than that of war, terrorism, malaria, HIV, tuberculosis, drugs and alcohol."

Pollution is an "existential threat to human health and planetary health, and jeopardizes the sustainability of modern societies," it added.

In general, the review found, air pollution - accounting for a total of 6.7 million deaths globally in 2019 - was "entwined" with climate change because the main source of both problems is burning fossil fuels and biofuels.  

DJ; Agriculture/farming has to change -high speed- as well to a.o. decrease pandemic risks. 

I only can welcome Europe getting less dependent on "foreign energysources". Dependency was the basis for conflicts. [url]https://www.ipkw.nl/nieuws/make-hydrogen-not-war/[/url] or https://www.ipkw.nl/nieuws/make-hydrogen-not-war/ - https://www.ipkw.nl/nieuws/make-hydrogen-not-war/ ! Export of that kind of new technologies may start further a "green economy". 

[url]http://thesaker.is/death-by-a-thousand-cuts-where-is-the-wests-ukraine-strategy/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/death-by-a-thousand-cuts-where-is-the-wests-ukraine-strategy/ - http://thesaker.is/death-by-a-thousand-cuts-where-is-the-wests-ukraine-strategy/  

DJ-Further enlargement of NATO-at the present price-in my opinion is "unwise". It is limiting NATO members-because of the resulting conflicts. Military spending has to decrease...we need to decrease risks for conflict. Access to water, energy etc for all, fair global trade, may result in a better future. 

Diplomacy, cutting a major conflict into many smaller-but solvable-"points" may be the way out....Europe -in my opinion- has to stress the importance of diplomacy, even if that would result in "more distance" from the US. 

Maybe on Finland, Sweden possibly joining NATO; It would be conditional; both countries would NOT allow nuclear weapons or foreign military bases on their soil. End of june at a NATO meeting further steps will be made...a lot will happen before that. 

Turkey is the most clear opponent of Sweden, Finland-both sanctioning Turkey for its interventions against Kurds in Syria and Iraq. No doubt several countries are offering "deals" to Erdogan. Russia may offer lower prices for energy and grain, maybe even more weapons, nuclear energy, if Turkey is able to keep Sweden and Finland out of NATO. The US may offer F35-fighters...

The EU may offer "another look" at Turkey joining the EU....Carrot and stick; IF Turkey blocks Sweden and Finland; could Turkey be excluded ? (From some NATO/EU deals). 

DJ-The EU does need an end to the war in Ukraine...The sooner the better ! For that matter US/UK (UK would love to believe the US still is somewhat under UK control...) are in a different position. Sweden has a major military industry...with Sweden in NATO the outcome of increased military spending may see more European weapons...

The US goal may have been to stop EurAsian integration. One result could be the EU going for highspeed innovations...buying LESS US energy and weapons then the US was hoping/planning...(US products-because of US corruption- are expensive...That expensive other alternatives often have better value...).

Maybe even worse for some US neo-cons; The EU may distance itself from Russia (does not need its export that much any longer) but increase trade with the rest of Asia...

The US next step is creating a crisis with China...From the MoA;

As Michael Hudson, a research professor of Economics at University of Missouri, Kansas City, https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/02/michael-hudson-americas-real-adversaries-are-its-european-and-other-allies.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - wrote in early February , before Russia's intervention in Ukraine:

America no longer has the monetary power and seemingly chronic trade and balance-of-payments surplus that enabled it to draw up the world’s trade and investment rules in 1944-45. The threat to U.S. dominance is that China, Russia and Mackinder’s Eurasian World Island heartland are offering better trade and investment opportunities than are available from the United States with its increasingly desperate demand for sacrifices from its NATO and other allies.

The most glaring example is the U.S. drive to block Germany from authorizing the Nord Stream 2 pipeline to obtain Russian gas for the coming cold weather. Angela Merkel agreed with Donald Trump to spend $1 billion building a new LNG port to become more dependent on highly priced U.S. LNG. (The plan was cancelled after the U.S. and German elections changed both leaders.) But Germany has no other way of heating many of its houses and office buildings (or supplying its fertilizer companies) than with Russian gas.

The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” The problem is to create a suitably offensive incident and depict Russia as the aggressor.

In mid February OSCE observer  https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/02/ukraine-who-is-firing-at-whom-and-who-is-lying-about-it.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - noted that the artillery bombardment of Donbas by the Ukrainians increased from a handful to over 2,000 explosions per day. Russia reacted to these attack preparations by recognizing the Donbas republics, signing defense agreements with them and by finally coming to their help.

DJ, Europe joined the US on Iran, Ukraine/Russia...but it would become selfdestructive if the EU followed the US on the rest of Asia...



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Posted By: cobber
Date Posted: May 20 2022 at 3:05am

Nuclear War.  Really??


The Biden's/Obama's used Ukraine as a money laundering scheme. Essentially they funnel money into things like aid programs run by NGO's who do essentially jack $hit and push money to crony's, among other shenanigan's. 

Only 10% of the aid package will make it to people on the ground. The other $36 billy will line the pockets of slimy merchants...

This is their ((shtik)) 


Regarding Nuclear war.. Its not really a thing at the moment. The USA has the upper hand by a considerable margin. China crashed their economy into turdsville. Why would they fling bombs when she's panning out for their bank balances. 

They are deliberately crashing economies. Glorious times for the merchants. 

Putin is smart but he has no clout. He played a pretty smart move invading Ukraine. His goal was to create a land bridge to his ports in Sevastopol. Brilliant tactics job done. No sooking by any woke gumbos gonna fix that $#it. 

Putin also seems to have rode out the attempt by the west to crash their economy. Again a brilliant move where Putin backed the currency with gold and then forced everyone to ditch the USD and trade in Rubles. 


No Nukes, Just shenanigan's.


"May you live in interesting times"  yep its epic.


PS Covid was a powerpuff...




Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 20 2022 at 9:47pm

cobber; 

In a very long-but interesting-video [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SyY0tGiUg[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SyY0tGiUg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SyY0tGiUg Scott Ritter paints western armies-including the US one-as not capable of a long conventional conflict (certainly on more then one front). 

I see NATO as a US-weapon promotion team; what counts is profits...not if weapons have "the best use" in a conflict. Via shares, NGO's etc a lot of "western aid" for Ukraine indeed will end up in western pockets...making a criminal political elite even more rich. (Bush jr was correct when he mentioned a failed political system ending up with war in Iraq...."correction Ukraine"...the west seems to be blind.).

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylPpSWv-_Po[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylPpSWv-_Po - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylPpSWv-_Po Alexander Mercouris; Russia Says Luhansk Region Under its Full Control Soon, US Considers Supplies of Anti-Ship Missiles to Ukraine News Topic 502 presents a picture of Ukraine military command close to breaking point with zelensky and his "western advisors". The brutal reality is Ukraine is getting 600-1.200 military per day being blown to pieces by Russian artillery. The strategy of not giving up positions makes those soldiers die or surrender...getting surrounded by (pro)Russian fighters. [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-sitrep-russians-break-through-us-bolsterism.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-sitrep-russians-break-through-us-bolsterism.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-sitrep-russians-break-through-us-bolsterism.html and [url]https://southfront.org/[/url] or https://southfront.org/ - https://southfront.org/ more or less give the same picture. 

YES-some western weapons get to the frontlines-most do not. A lot of it ends up in storage due to lack of transport. Also Russian missile strikes see a lot of it being destroyed. 

DJ; Scott Ritter may have a point in that the west never has been this dis-united...Poland (with Baltic states ?) thinking of "moving into West Ukraine" for nationalistic reasons. Such an action could pull Poland into the war without NATO protection-because Poland intervened...

AM mentioning/asking why Turkey/Erdogan NOT was asked on his ideas of Sweden, Finland (both sanctioning Turkey) joining NATO...

DJ-Does the EU have alternatives for Russian energy ? Basic answer-not yet...So now buying extra Russian energy-to boycott later-is boosting the Russian economy while the west is facing inflation...Some "sea countries" going for "thousends of windturbines" in the Northsea...Solar power is increasing in the EU, but France nuclear power plants has 50% in maintanance...

The west does not have a "war-economy". It needs global trade. Asia is in a much different position. 

DJ-Ukraine is close to collapse. Sending in western military to the frontlines will widen the war...with no good perspectives. Most of the Russian munitions used are quite simple-will be more then replaced-Russia is NOT out of means to fight a longer war...May stop all energy export to the west if there is a western escalation...

Saving the US "global monopoly" by starting a war in Asia-against China-only will weaken the west more...So two options left;

-start talking; looks like there is an increase of (indirect) contacts between the west and Russia

-or nuclear war...no one will win that. US submarines showing up north of Russia-in the Arctic Ocean, or US Navy getting close to China, may cause "mistakes"...

Israel, North Korea, bojo/UK, India-Pakistan(-China) conflict only increasing the risks....

CoViD in North Korea makes matters worse...




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Posted By: cobber
Date Posted: May 20 2022 at 10:39pm

Russia is good at land mobility and intercontinental bm's. They have very little in the way of offensive weaponry in comparison to the US. 

Russia and the US have been having these land disputes for a long time. Ukraine is just more of the same old BS. Essentially no nukes. Just skirmishes 

The US manages its power by utilizing a hegemon structure in remote locals. They leverage NATO and other bodies. There diplomacy is very strong and they leverage their allies to effect total control.

Watch China. If they push more into the south China sea and push Japan and Korea that's when fire works might start.

Taiwan is under threat now. Watch this space...



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 22 2022 at 10:55am

From [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-polish-troops-have-entered-ukraine-war[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-polish-troops-have-entered-ukraine-war - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-polish-troops-have-entered-ukraine-war ;

Staggering reports are coming in claiming two (2) battalions of Polish Army troops have entered Ukraine covertly.   Overnight, 2 battalions of Polish infantry moved out from Kyiv the day before and have already reached Pavlograd. 

Two or more companies make up a battalion, which has 400 to 1,200 troops and is commanded by a lieutenant colonel. The battalion is the smallest unit to have a staff of officers (in charge of personnel, operations, intelligence, and logistics) to assist the commander.

Each battalion inside Ukraine is said to have 4 Rapira anti-tank guns, armored personnel carriers, and American armored personnel carriers.

Currently, the Polish infantry is being prepared for the transfer to the Avdeevsky front.

Whether we are talking about regular troops or mercenaries, it is difficult to say now.   Some reports are claiming the Poles are Mercenaries, who were waiting for the US $40 Billion in Ukrainian "aid" to be approved before moving into action.  That was approved formally late this past week.

MORE:

Additional reports are openly saying The British SAS has been inside Ukraine carrying out special commando ops against the Russians  as well.

WORSE, the reports now admit the US is on the ground inside eastern Ukraine doing targeting mapping and other things.

 

UPDATE 10:27 AM EDT --

U.S. SENATOR TELLS NATO "PREPARE FOR RUSSIAN NUCLEAR ACTION"

The US and its NATO allies should prepare a “devastating” response to potential Russian nuclear action, Sen. Mitt Romney said on Saturday.

The call to action comes on the heels of https://nypost.com/2022/03/23/russia-could-use-nuclear-weapons-if-putin-suspects-existential-threat/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(27, 27, 27); text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; transition: color 400ms ease 0s, background-color 400ms ease 0s; - threats from the Kremlin and warnings from Russian diplomats that the country’s Ukraine invasion could https://nypost.com/2022/05/11/us-fears-russia-will-use-drastic-tactics-including-nuke-threat-as-fortunes-wane-in-ukraine/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(27, 27, 27); text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; transition: color 400ms ease 0s, background-color 400ms ease 0s; - lead to a nuclear strike , the Utah Republican https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/21/admin/putin-nuclear-weapons.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(27, 27, 27); text-decoration: none; background-color: transparent; transition: color 400ms ease 0s, background-color 400ms ease 0s; - wrote in an op-ed for The New York Times .

“Russia’s use of a nuclear weapon would unarguably be a redefining, reorienting geopolitical event,” Romney, 75, wrote.

“We should imagine the unimaginable, specifically how we would respond militarily and economically to such a seismic shift in the global geopolitical terrain.”

The former presidential candidate presented several options available to western allies in addition to a nuclear response if a “cornered and delusional” Russian President Vladimir Putin deployed a nuclear weapon.

(HT REMARK: Romney is in "The Club" if he is making this warning there is definitely something behind it.  His now-public remarks are a signal - at least to me - they already KNOW what's coming.  I think guys like Romney are going to get a slew of us KILLED.   The voters of Utah would do well to get their Senator back under control before he causes a whole bunch of us to get nuked.)

DJ US would be sending anti-ship missiles, anti-air-artillery (A3) etc...Special Forces of US, UK, Poland have been in Ukraine most of the time...

[url]https://southfront.org/advanced-anti-drone-gun-spotted-with-russian-troops-in-ukraine/[/url] or https://southfront.org/advanced-anti-drone-gun-spotted-with-russian-troops-in-ukraine/ - https://southfront.org/advanced-anti-drone-gun-spotted-with-russian-troops-in-ukraine/

DJ [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/china-launches-military-exercises-south-china-sea-biden-arrives-asia[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/china-launches-military-exercises-south-china-sea-biden-arrives-asia - https://www.zerohedge.com/political/china-launches-military-exercises-south-china-sea-biden-arrives-asia

The US war against Russia, China is escalating...support for that war is decreasing in a lot of countries. A.o. Italy asking for "compromise/peace"....Economic costs are going up...



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Posted By: KiwiMum
Date Posted: May 22 2022 at 2:46pm

That's so interesting. There was talk last week of a leaked document that stated that Polish troops would invade Ukraine on May 22nd, and it's happened!



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 23 2022 at 12:23am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hug8Si0NRz8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hug8Si0NRz8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hug8Si0NRz8 Alex Christoforou ; 'Destroy' Russia navy & feed the world. Shoigu warns Finland-NATO. Trudeau's CBC expelled. Update 2 Topic 550

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqve5DC4Hfo[/url] or  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqve5DC4Hfo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqve5DC4Hfo Ukraine NATO fiction. Russia naval blockade fiction. WEF-DAVOS is back, with star speaker. Update 1 Topic 551

DJ-and following AC video's...western propaganda will claim "Russia is starving the world" by "blocking the Black Sea"...when it is Ukraine stopping ships from leaving port, putting mines in the Black Sea. Russia (and India) did have record harvests-so India may be able to even export some of it (when flooding in BanglaDesh/Assam-India area does not create to much problems...). Russia is willing to sell grain to "friendly nations" for Rubles...basiccally...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UKTPZhoIs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UKTPZhoIs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8UKTPZhoIs Gonzalo Lira (GL); Poland slides it in...

DJ GL also mentioning two "Polish bataljons" moving to Donbas. I think it may be the "international-US led-brigade that has been training in Poland. With the "best of weapons" and best US/UK intel...most of them will be Polish. GL also mentions the Polish government more or less almost making the claim Poland and Ukraine are "one country"....

Alexander Mercouris, Scott Ritter did make the point that "when a NATO member moves it forces into another country" article 5 does not offer any protection. Even if Russia would move into Poland-not very likely-NATO members have to react "in a fitting manner"....

GL sees three options for the "Polish forces"; 1 Russia ignores it, 2 full strike, 3 Russia declares war on Poland...DJ-My idea is that Russia will destroy the Polish forces once they get near Donbas...using lots of transportcapacity getting there...

In the Donbas Russia keeps pushing Ukraine forces....

[url]https://www.debka.com/russia-strikes-us-missile-shipment-for-ukraine-blocks-worlds-grain-supply/[/url] or  https://www.debka.com/russia-strikes-us-missile-shipment-for-ukraine-blocks-worlds-grain-supply/ - https://www.debka.com/russia-strikes-us-missile-shipment-for-ukraine-blocks-worlds-grain-supply/  DJ-The US is the largest agriculture exporter, then NL...

-[url]https://southfront.org/iranian-quds-force-officer-assassinated-in-tehran-was-planning-attacks-against-israel-reports/[/url] or https://southfront.org/iranian-quds-force-officer-assassinated-in-tehran-was-planning-attacks-against-israel-reports/ - https://southfront.org/iranian-quds-force-officer-assassinated-in-tehran-was-planning-attacks-against-israel-reports/ ;

Iranian Quds Force  https://southfront.org/breaking-senior-iranian-revolutionary-guard-officer-assassinated-in-tehran/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: red; text-decoration: underline; background-color: transparent; transition: all 0.2s ease 0s; outline: 0px; - Colonel Hassan Sayad Khodayari who was assassinated on May 22 had planned kidnappings and other attacks on Israeli and Jewish targets worldwide, according to reports in the Israeli media.

The Quds Force is one of five branches of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) specializing in unconventional warfare and military intelligence operations. The force is mainly active against Israeli and the US.

DJ Another escalation in the US/Israel war on Iran...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: cobber
Date Posted: May 23 2022 at 5:27am

Mitt Romney what a blowhard...

Hear him say....   "NATO is going to beat the $hit out of you Putin. Blah Blah."

What a friggen idiot. 



Posted By: cobber
Date Posted: May 23 2022 at 5:29am

Question: Does anyone in America take Mitt seriously?


From Australia he looks like the biggest tool



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 26 2022 at 3:05am

DJ-I find it impossible to follow that much events to the depth I did so far-and write on it on a daily basis. 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7twYFs9vPfM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7twYFs9vPfM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7twYFs9vPfM ; Alexander Mercouris ;Russia 'Cuts off" Severodonetsk, Eyes Zaporozhye, As Ukraine Says Plans Counteroffensive News Topic 506

[url]https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/25/the-snowball-effect/[/url] or https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/25/the-snowball-effect/ - https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/25/the-snowball-effect/  

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-war-3-stage-being-set-us-go-war-china-and-russia-simultaneously[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-war-3-stage-being-set-us-go-war-china-and-russia-simultaneously - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-war-3-stage-being-set-us-go-war-china-and-russia-simultaneously  

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/russia-will-strengthen-economic-ties-china-cooperate-beijing-technology-russian-foreign[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/political/russia-will-strengthen-economic-ties-china-cooperate-beijing-technology-russian-foreign - https://www.zerohedge.com/political/russia-will-strengthen-economic-ties-china-cooperate-beijing-technology-russian-foreign  

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-nato-vs-russia-what-happens-next[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-nato-vs-russia-what-happens-next - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-nato-vs-russia-what-happens-next  

A quick breakdown of the $40 billion reveals $8.7 billion will go to replenish the US weapons stockpile (thus not going to Ukraine at all); $3.9 billion for USEUCOM (the ‘office’ that dictates military tactics to Kiev); $5 billion for a fuzzy, unspecified “global food supply chain”; $6 billion for actual weapons and “training” to Ukraine; $9 billion in “economic assistance” (which will disappear into selected pockets); and $0.9 billion for refugees.

US risk agencies have downgraded Kiev to the dumpster of non-reimbursing-loan entities, so large American investment funds are ditching Ukraine, leaving the European Union (EU) and its member-states as the country’s only option.

Few of those countries, apart from Russophobic entities such as Poland, can justify to their own populations sending huge sums of direct aid to a failed state. So it will fall to the Brussels-based EU machine to do just enough to maintain Ukraine in an economic coma – independent from any input from member-states and institutions.

These EU ‘loans’ – mostly in the form of weapons shipments – can always be reimbursed by Kiev’s wheat exports. This is already happening on a small scale via the port of Constanta in Romania, where Ukrainian wheat arrives in barges over the Danube and is loaded into dozens of cargo ships everyday. Or, via convoys of trucks rolling with the weapons-for-wheat racket. However, Ukrainian wheat will keep feeding the wealthy west, not impoverished Ukrainians.

(DJ-the latest propaganda; "Putin starving the world"-when Ukraine still is exporting grain, US, Canada are major grain exportes, Russia, India have record harvests-but western countries buy all the food and push up the prices)

 and [url]https://liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/ - https://liveuamap.com/ may give a picture of the Ukraine-war.

[url]https://southfront.org/joint-sino-russian-bomber-patrol-amid-escalatory-us-rhetoric-over-taiwan/[/url] or https://southfront.org/joint-sino-russian-bomber-patrol-amid-escalatory-us-rhetoric-over-taiwan/ - https://southfront.org/joint-sino-russian-bomber-patrol-amid-escalatory-us-rhetoric-over-taiwan/ on East Asia; Chinese military build up there gives Russia more room in the Ukraine war. 

Trainers from Colombia, New Zealand now will provide further military training to Ukraine forces in Poland, Germany (UK, US ???). But the big picture is;

-sanctions war failed

-military support failed

A repeat of "the west" spending billions of (fiat) money on corrupt regimes-like we did see in (South) Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. 

Turkey is using its position in NATO to fight/kill more Kurds in Syria and Iraq. Wants 40 Kurdish refugees extradited from Sweden, Finland and is not in a hurry at all to accept Sweden, Finland into NATO....Maybe first want to reach some goals against the Kurds with help from Syria, Iraq, Iran...Part of the price of getting Sweden, Finland in NATO may be US out of Syria, Iraq...or at least end of US (and Israel) working with the Kurds...

Even worse; other countries now also may see(k) room for negotiations...Hungary is in a conflict with the EU-with EU sanctions...most likely they need to be dropped before Hungary accepts Finland, Sweden in NATO...Poland wants cheap Norwegian energy replacing Russian energy....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcByHRQl24[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcByHRQl24 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJcByHRQl24 as a reminder; how the Soviet Union did beat the (pro) German forces in World War Two....A lot of the Russian strategies then are used now....In Russia, China (a.o.) they see history repeated...

Confrontation to "keep the US ($) #1" was wrong from day 1 ! Diplomacy would have worked much better-but for diplomacy respect is needed-not "exceptionalism" !



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 28 2022 at 12:10am

DJ, 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/as-things-fall-apart-biden-may-want-to-escalate.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/as-things-fall-apart-biden-may-want-to-escalate.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/as-things-fall-apart-biden-may-want-to-escalate.html and [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-prepares-approve-long-range-rockets-ukraine-russia-warns-over-red-line[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-prepares-approve-long-range-rockets-ukraine-russia-warns-over-red-line - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-prepares-approve-long-range-rockets-ukraine-russia-warns-over-red-line  

With the Ukraine army at breaking point the only way some western countries (US,UK, Poland are the main hardliners) can continue the "war against Russia" is increasing their own role in the war. 

I did not read further news on the two "Polish" battaljons (maybe the trained US-led "international brigade"??) that did move into Ukraine. Most likely they may be stuck somewhere in eastern Ukraine. Trying to fight Russian artillery and tanks with machineguns...So far a lot of anti-tank weapons simply did not make much difference. 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-collapsing-zelensky-now-saying-must-face-reality[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-collapsing-zelensky-now-saying-must-face-reality - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-collapsing-zelensky-now-saying-must-face-reality ; 

Meanwhile, it is quickly becoming clear that western military aid into Ukraine, is being stolen and re-routed to be sold in Serbia on the Black Market!!   Upwards of TWO-THIRDS of the ManPad surface-to-air, man-portable anti-aircraft weapons, are now in Serbia for sale.   This includes American STINGER missiles!   

Worse, all manner of other weapons of war are also being offered on the Black market, including mortars, rocket propelled grenades, land mines, and armor-piercing ammunition in such vast quantities, the smugglers can't even find place to store their ill-gotten goods.   It's like a terrorist bazaar; where anyone can go buy any weapons they want!

The Ukrainians are literally STEALING the west-supplied weapons so they can sell them on the black market and put the cash in their own pockets. 

The "west" is ignoring the corruption-as-a-rule in Ukraine. Also zelensky using cocaine and loads of alcohol to keep "acting as if he was the Ukraine president" is what western media just does not want to see...

So..."newer weapons" will have to "make the difference". Most likely those weapons will be further away from the frontlines...To avoid those weapons being stolen, to "do the job", a lot of NATO military will get involved...Maybe an Ukraine finger will push the final button-but we are getting very close to US,UK, Polish (mainly) forces killing (pro) Russian forces in Ukraine...

For what ? Distraction because of a pandemic running out of control, climate collapse ? Political faillure ? Hyperinflation, food&water crises ? 

Both the US and Israel are pushing for war with Iran...US/UK pushing up tensions in east Asia...

Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria already showed how "NATO" was beaten...somehow we accept a repeat of that insanity in Ukraine...resulting in a.o. over 10 million Ukraine refugees...(over 25% of its population...). Weapon producers-most of them in the US- see more profits coming their way...

DJ-Maybe in Germany the "green party" thinks climate goals are in reach if we "fight fossil energy"=Russia...Ending up with more coal....

I fail to understand any reason for this war-other then profits for a few...This war(s) do make the west weaker, not stronger...If the US wants to be #1 diplomacy would have offered much better chances then endless wars....



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Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: May 28 2022 at 1:42am

I wonder if Zelenski gets his cocaine from clowns like Gonzo "cokehead" Lira? Or maybe from white supremasist and convicted felon Hal Turner? Nah, I think Zelenski is a little smarter than that. Only the most gullible would get their "news" from these laughable sources. Anything new from convicted pedophile Scot Ritter? 



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 4:46am

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-conquers-severodonetsk-then-grabs-85km-west-to-slovyansk[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-conquers-severodonetsk-then-grabs-85km-west-to-slovyansk - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-conquers-severodonetsk-then-grabs-85km-west-to-slovyansk DJ-Hal Turner may be missing Slovyansk was also not that far from a frontline...but also no other confirmation yet from other sources-as far as I did see. 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0QvFGfbbHg[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0QvFGfbbHg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0QvFGfbbHg Alex Christoforou;Pirate World, Greece & Iran. Poland, Belarus and Ukraine. G7 oligarch shakedown. Update 1 Topic 560

DJ, Like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria the Ukraine-war is making lots of profits for military-complex shareholders...maybe the only reason we keep seeing these kind of wars...US told Greece to "take over" an Iran tanker-so the US could steal the oil (like the US is stealing oil in Syria). So now Iran did take over two Greek tankers...AC mentions Greek tankers still doing most of Russian oil exports...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HllNLXFE3GQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HllNLXFE3GQ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HllNLXFE3GQ military view of expected further Russian moves...

DJ, Belarus does not want Polish/NATO forces south of its borders-no doubt also pushing for regimechange in Minsk...But why wait for NATO to act foolish any further ? Belarus moving into the north part of Ukraine may be part of step 3 of the (pro) Russian offensive...with pro-Kiev/NATO power structure at breaking point...Gonzalo Lira even claiming top-military being arrested (coup plans ?)....

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/army-replenishing-stinger-missiles-687m-deal-raytheons-ukraine-cash-bonanza-continues[/url] or  https://www.zerohedge.com/military/army-replenishing-stinger-missiles-687m-deal-raytheons-ukraine-cash-bonanza-continues - https://www.zerohedge.com/military/army-replenishing-stinger-missiles-687m-deal-raytheons-ukraine-cash-bonanza-continues  war-for-profit part ?



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 10:13pm

DJ, 

Maybe best part at the end [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdgqETIii-A[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdgqETIii-A - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdgqETIii-A Alexander Mercouris; As Defeat Looms Kiev Places All Its Hopes on Western Weapons, Erdogan Repeats Opposition to Finland, Sweden NATO Bids News Topic 509

One of the comments; Being a US veteran I do appreciate that you state that you’re not a Military Expert, but you have displayed a greater deal of knowledge, facts, and measured comments than all the Military “Experts” that are on these shallow news desks. They talk with a forked tongue.

DJ [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/harpoon-missiles-arrive-in-ukraine[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/harpoon-missiles-arrive-in-ukraine - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/harpoon-missiles-arrive-in-ukraine ;The Odessa, Ukraine Regional Military Authority said Sunday "So many Harpoon missiles have been handed over to us, we can sink the entire Russian Black Sea Fleet.

"If a NATO ship or aircraft provided in-flight target updating, that would constitute active participation in the war, and would be an "act of war" against Russia.

More important, HT missing it, there will be staff with the missiles...trained to use them. But NATO (missiles came from Denmark ?) is sinking deeper into this insane war...

AM (also) mentioned Argentina, Saudi Arabia now talking of joining BRICS (Brazil-Russia-India-China-South Africa cooperation). Iran linking its currency to the Ruble to limit inflation. 

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation#Membership[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation#Membership - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation#Membership The US does not go for diplomacy...even stopped sharing some intel with the UK....While EurAsian integration is gaining speed. DJ-We are on the way to a new global currency system-no longer under any western control. De facto the Chinese, India economies will be the dominant global ones...US putting sanctions on to many countries...The EU divided on sanctions as they are divided on most other points....

From Gonzalo Lira on twitter;

-Zelensky betrayed AZOV-claims; is there (another) fascist coup on its way ? 

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DJ...Fiat currencies have their limits.....the west became addicted on "easy money"....Ukraine is printing money like crazy...in fact bankrupt...

As far as I did read Poland (and others) will NOT move into Ukraine...most likely it would not be welcomed by Ukraine nationalists...I think they want any foreign fighter under Kiev-command and on the frontlines...More "clever weapons" in need of trained staff will be under "Ukraine command" with a lot of western high rank military "advisors" in that command. 

If Russia did get major western high rank military in Mariupol they may be trying to get as much info out of them as possible...

Giving up this war would be a major crisis for the west....Ukraine army was of "NATO level" but is getting beaten high speed....The US-biden-pushed for this war...western corrupt politics is as good as bankrupt as well....



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 10 2022 at 3:51am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQrQCBYQXE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQrQCBYQXE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQrQCBYQXE Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom with Scot Ritter on Ukraine;

-only allowed parties are nazi/fascists ones-they see Russians as sub-human (most of Ukraine does NOT support that extremism-want peace).

-US spent already 60 billion on Ukraine since the start of the war

-Stinger/Javelin weapons end up at the black market NOT in Ukraine

-Russia is winning this war, Ukraine has no chance

DJ-I expect ethnic Russian part of (former) Ukraine will seek Russian security...Putin called the break up of the Soviet Union a disaster because Russian in former Soviet States outside Russia lost their pensions, basic rights, sometimes even the right to speak Russian. 

I still find it more then shocking to see how most western media keeps supporting the Kiev-fascist dictatorship-even call that "democracy"....What does that say about western countries ? 

See also [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera ; 

Shortly after the war, Bandera and his family moved several times around  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="West Germany - West Germany before settling in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Munich - Munich . He used false identification documents that helped him to conceal his past relationship with the Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-:1-4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4] Bandera was protected by the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehlen_Organization" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Gehlen Organization - Gehlen Organization but he also received help from underground organizations of former Nazis who helped Bandera to cross borders between  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied-occupied_Germany" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Allied-occupied Germany - Allied occupation zones . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-:1-4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4]

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Dorril" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Stephen Dorril - Stephen Dorril , author of MI6: Inside the Covert World of Her Majesty's Secret Intelligence Service, OUN-B was re-formed in 1946 under the sponsorship of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MI6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="MI6 - MI6 . The organization had been receiving some support from MI6 since the 1930s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-54" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [54] One faction of Bandera's organization, associated with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Lebed" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Mykola Lebed - Mykola Lebed , became more closely associated with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="CIA - CIA . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-55" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [55] Bandera himself was the target of an extensive and aggressive search carried out by the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterintelligence_Corps" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Counterintelligence Corps - Counterintelligence Corps (CIC). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-56" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [56] It failed, having described their quarry as "extremely dangerous" and "constantly en route, frequently in disguise". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-57" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [57] Some American intelligence reported that he even was guarded by former SS men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-58" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [58] His organization perpetrated many crimes, including hundreds of thousands of murders, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-RudlingMyth-49" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [49] counterfeiting, and kidnapping. After the Bavarian state government initiated a crackdown on it, Bandera reached an agreement with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesnachrichtendienst" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Bundesnachrichtendienst - BND , offering them his service, despite CIA warning the West Germans against cooperating with him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-59" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [59] Bandera also visited after the war Ukrainian communities in Canada, Austria, Italy, Spain, Belgium, UK and Holland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-:1-4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4]

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According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grzegorz_Rossoli%C5%84ski-Liebe" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Grzegorz Rossoliński-Liebe - Grzegorz Rossoliński-Liebe "Bandera's worldview was shaped by numerous far-right values and concepts including ultranationalism, fascism, racism, and antisemitism; by fascination with violence; by the belief that only war could establish a Ukrainian state; and by hostility to democracy, communism, and socialism. Like other young Ukrainian nationalists he combined extremism with religion and used religion to sacralize politics and violence." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-Rossolinski-60" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [60]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_Anders_Rudling" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Per Anders Rudling - Per Anders Rudling stated that Bandera and his followers "advocated the selective breeding to create a "pure" Ukrainian race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-61" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [61] and that "the OUN shared the fascist attributes of antiliberalism, anticonservatism, and anticommunism, an armed party, totalitarianism, anti-Semitism, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerprinzip" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Führerprinzip - Führerprinzip , and an adoption of fascist greetings. Its leaders eagerly emphasized to Hitler and Ribbentrop that they shared the Nazi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldview" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Worldview - Weltanschauung and a commitment to a fascist New Europe." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-62" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [62] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Snyder" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Timothy Snyder - Timothy Snyder has described him as a fascist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#cite_note-snyder-3" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [3]

DJ This bandera is now seen as a national hero in Ukraine by a ruling criminal club...zelensky is more or less their hostage...NATO, western countries cooperate with this "rotten elite"...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 14 2022 at 11:08pm

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01vmBRfp4wQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01vmBRfp4wQ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01vmBRfp4wQ   Scott Ritter/Judging Freedom; DJ...

-"Free press" is about selling advertisments...making money

-Policians "liars and players" otherwise they would be out of work...

-Ukraine asking for 1000 pieces of artillery, more then the US Army has in active duty...500 tanks, that is more the France, Germany AND !!! the UK in combination have...

-Ukraine now shelling targets inside Russia - most likely with WESTERN weapons....

-Ukraine using a.o. French artillery to kill citizens in Donbas...

-CIA knows what is going on, politics does not want to hear it....

-Lots of non-western countries know what is going on; India calling NATO provocative...Mexico blaming the US for the present crisis...

Will war with Iran, China be next ? With what weapons ? Or will "our leaders" start yet another war without any weapons left ? For what ? An illusion of "western dominance"? 

DJ-We URGENTLY !!! need leaders that put western (public) interests at #1...not shareholders making money out of wars, climate disasters, pandemics...Neo-liberalism is killing millions ! 

Damage control is all that is left...but present "leaders" keep pushing for even more damage...(because their elite sponsors are making money out of the many crises ???) This is NOT democracy but democrazy !

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZRJiKlHoms[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZRJiKlHoms - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZRJiKlHoms update on Ukraine frontlines;

DJ; In Eastern Ukraine another 600 "foreign fighters" being locked in...Polish ? UK ? "former" military ? DJ-How many NATO "former soldiers" are fighting in Ukraine ? Most of Ukraine weapons (from drones to guns, artillery) now is NATO weapons...Often complicated in how to use it....Maybe "we" are not in an official war with Russia - but it could be already lots of (thousends !!!) of western "former" military (from Poland, US, UK, but also Germany, France, DK, NL, Canada ???) are already fighting Russia in Ukraine...

Alexander Mercouris [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnyow5VPXdo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnyow5VPXdo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnyow5VPXdo  

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-killing-surrendering-soldiers-shelling-civilians.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-killing-surrendering-soldiers-shelling-civilians.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/ukraine-killing-surrendering-soldiers-shelling-civilians.html  

DJ, "The West" is destroying itself...diplomacy could have prevented this...We should be fighting a pandemic ! War now resulting in over 100 million refugees; 1,5% of global population now has become a refugee...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 17 2022 at 9:16pm

DJ, There have been claims of "close to 20,000 foreign fighters in Ukraine".  [url]https://southfront.org/strikes-eliminate-hq-of-azov-battalion-in-kharkiv-russia-releases-details-on-foreign-mercenaries-in-ukraine/[/url] or https://southfront.org/strikes-eliminate-hq-of-azov-battalion-in-kharkiv-russia-releases-details-on-foreign-mercenaries-in-ukraine/ - https://southfront.org/strikes-eliminate-hq-of-azov-battalion-in-kharkiv-russia-releases-details-on-foreign-mercenaries-in-ukraine/ ;

Against the backdrop of the Kiev regime’s mounting military failures and massive daily losses in manpower and equipment, the flow of foreign mercenaries to Ukraine has not only decreased, but is actually turning in the opposite direction.

Despite the Kiev regime’s efforts and increased payments, the process of mercenaries leaving to the “other world” or back to their countries of residence has not been stopped by the Kiev leadership.

Recent empty statements about almost “20,000” foreigners “fighting” against the Russian Armed Forces are just plain lies.

As we have already noted, the Russian Defence Ministry monitors and records the presence in Ukraine of every representative of this international gathering of “headless horsemen”.

Moreover, it is not only mercenaries directly involved in combat operations as part of Ukrainian units that are now included in our databases. We also take into account the trainers who have come to train, assist in the operation and repair of Western weapons supplied to Ukraine.

We will publish these statistics today.

For example, among European countries, Poland is the undisputed leader in terms of the number of mercenaries both arriving and dying. Since the beginning of the special military operation, 1,831 people have arrived in Ukraine, of whom 378 have already been killed and 272 mercenaries have departed for their homeland. It is followed by Romania with 504 arrivals, 102 deaths and 98 departures. The UK is in third place: 422 arrivals, 101 deaths, 95 departures.

Among the Americas, Canada leads the way: 601 arrivals, 162 deaths, 169 departures. The USA comes second: 530 arrivals, 214 deaths, 227 departures.

From the Middle East, Transcaucasus and Asia the largest number, 355 mercenaries, came from Georgia, of whom 120 died and 90 left Ukraine. Then there are 200 terrorist fighters redeployed from the US-controlled areas of Jazira region in Syria. To date, 80 have been eliminated and 66 have left Ukraine.

In total, our lists as at June 17, 2022, include mercenaries and weapons operating specialists from 64 countries. Since the beginning of the special military operation, 6,956 people have arrived in Ukraine, 1,956 have already been eliminated and 1,779 have left.

As long as 3,321 mercenaries are alive, not yet captured, or have not yet escaped to the Ukrainian border.

DJ, These numbers are from the Russian side. "Foreign fighters" may include NATO advisors/observers to adventurers...There were some Ukrainians in the French foreign legion. Some of them returned to Ukraine. A.o. the UK did encourage "former military" to fight on the Kiev-side. 

On the pro-Russian side Donetsk and Luhansk may have some foreign fighters. 

DJ-A war is terrible...the only foreign intervention I welcome is Red Cross and diplomats trying to end the killing...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 25 2022 at 3:05am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-NvNB1u23s[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-NvNB1u23s - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-NvNB1u23s WION-India; Beijing is hosting the meeting of BRICS emerging economies. Indian PM Narendra Modi addressed the opening ceremony of the BRICS in virtual format. Meanwhile, XI has warned about 'expanding military alliances'.

DJ; BRICS [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS ; BRICS is the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Acronym - acronym  coined to associate five major  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_market" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Emerging market - emerging economies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Brazil - Brazil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Russia - Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="India - India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="China - China (PRC) , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="South Africa - South Africa . The BRICS members are known for their significant influence on regional affairs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS#cite_note-2" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1]  Since 2009, the governments of the BRICS states have met annually at formal summits

representing 40% of global population, 25% of global GDP/economy...

DJ-There are talks on including Argentina, Saudi Arabia into "BRICS". [url]http://thesaker.is/brics-summit/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/brics-summit/ - http://thesaker.is/brics-summit/  

some main developments;

-developing a global reserve currency/payment system (dumping SWIFT, US$, Euro...)

-further military cooperation based on souvereign nations...

-Russia opening up for India and Turkey-retail chains (in part taking over western ones...now closed because of western sanctions)....

-Russia replacing Saudi Arabia as India's main oil supplier, is already China #1 oil-supplier...(all involved countries dumping the US-petro-dollar)

-further economic cooperation with African, Latin American and willing EurAsian countries

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_196910.htm - https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_196910.htm The north atlantic terrorist organization will meet in Madrid june 29-30...After supporting IS in Syria this "club" now supports nazi's in Ukraine....The western elite has totally derailed...rest of the world now will go for "corrections"...

DJ-The time for talking with "the west" is over...."the neo-colonial west" breaking all agreements they signed has to deal with a "new reality"...Action speak louder then words...

New western leaders may restart another role in global cooperation...The "old elite" has to go !



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 29 2022 at 2:50am

DJ, 

The "escalation and containment scenario";

Goal is to "show the world the "West" rules"....

Escalation on several frontlines by a "global NATO" including Japan, Australia, India, South Korea, Israel.

-Major attack on Iran. Israel to take out nuclear/missile capacity, NATO to stop Iran as segment in China-Euro links

-NATO going in full into Ukraine...NATO missiles/aircraft used against (pro)Russian targets...maybe first from Ukraine itself-trying to limit that war to Ukraine. Once Russia hits targets outside Ukraine, or NATO hits targets in Russia/Belarus (etc) that war could "explode" into a major global conflict...

-Japan moving into the Kuril-Islands with US/NATO+ help

-US/NATO putting military bases in Taiwan

-US nuclear weapons in South Korea

-India "putting limits" on China/Pakistan

-Turkey moving into Iraq and Syria to deal with the Kurds and Iran/Russia/Assad

In this scenario nuclear weapons still "on the background" but both on the battlefield as in intercontinental warfare soon may show up if one "group" is cornered. 

some basic ideas may be;

Philippines, Pakistan "return to the west"

Russia, China "in shock", willing to talk...

Iran -as an example- fully destroyed...

DJ-Most likely those ideas are WRONG !!!

West may not have enough weapons and soldiers for such a major operation

India, South Korea others not willing to go for all out major war

RIC, Russia, Iran, China, but also Syria, Iraq, North Korea ready for this kind of war

Outcome may be;

Major fast escalating war, collapse of the west even going faster...

DJ-By keeping pushing for more escalation of conflicts I think we are not that far from the "major war" scenario (in any form). The major weak spot of the west is its economy. Not only the (fiat) currencies but also dependency of raw materials, energy etc. from outside the west...

Trying to use the US$ as a weapon has backfired. Sanctions war has backfired. If "we" lose in Ukraine "it is over" for the "west"...

To avoid this global disaster we need diplomacy urgently....Some countries are still able and willing to be a "bridge" (Indonesia, Türkiye). But time is running out...Ukraine is at "breaking point" and "may have to end the war by giving in to Russia"....In that scenario not only Ukraine but also "the west" is beaten...

Sanity and diplomacy has to return to the west !



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: June 30 2022 at 12:16am

DJ, So Finland and Sweden can go further in joining NATO...all NATO-member parliaments have to agree with it...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/after-turks-green-light-finland-sweden-into-nato-russia-announces-no-turkish-buffer-zone-in-syria[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/after-turks-green-light-finland-sweden-into-nato-russia-announces-no-turkish-buffer-zone-in-syria - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/after-turks-green-light-finland-sweden-into-nato-russia-announces-no-turkish-buffer-zone-in-syria ; DJ-Hal Turner may be WRONG (again) ;

After yesterday's astounding announcement that Turkey had withdrawn its objections to Finland and Sweden joining NATO, the Kremlin announced the following today:

"Russia will participate in liberating all occupied Syrian lands from Kurdish and Turkish militias. It will not allow the establishment of a Turkish buffer zone."

This now sets Russia directly on a path to military confrontation with Turkey.

The Turks have insisted there be at least a 30 mile "Buffer Zone" in northern Syria, into which no Kurdish may live or travel   Turkey regards the Kurds and their political group the PKK, as "Terrorists."

Not even one day after Turkey sold-out Russia by agreeing to withdraw objection to Finland and to Sweden becoming members of NATO (on Russia's border), the Russians now make clear Turkey's desires and goals inside Syria "will not be allowed."

DJ, Russia has been trying to get the Kurds in Syria to loin the Assad SAA (Syrian Arab Army) for years now...Erdogan and Putin did talk about NATO no doubt lots of times...

So I think Erdogan did get "a green light" from Putin for his stand on Sweden, Finland...DJ-NATO is "not very succesfull in its wars"...NATO/ the west does "dream" of global, unipolar rule (by the US)...reality is different...

For now Russia is destroying Ukraine and NATO forces in Ukraine...Both NATO and Russia for now want to keep that war limited to Ukraine-borders..the west "may drop" Ukraine if that is in western interests...

The west did drop the Kurds....Türkiye (I try to write it in the "new" way !) did "get its way" in NATO. Sweden may have even to send Kurdish members-of-parliament to Türkiye ? In a "war against (Kurdish) terror" ? Looking at the faces of the Nordic "leaders" involved joining NATO may have "a very high costs"-no doubt could contribute to more riots in Sweden...

Syria did recognize Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples republic...(some other countries-Iran-may follow. Buying Russian protection..Russia will-at the end-take over most-if not all-of Ukraine and include it into Russia-for security reasons...). 

[url]https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/middle-east/syria/[/url] or https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/middle-east/syria/ - https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/middle-east/syria/ and [url]https://syria.liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://syria.liveuamap.com/ - https://syria.liveuamap.com/ may be worthwhile...the war in Syria is a complex one (and NOT a civil war !). Israel/NATO fighting Iran/Russia is "the short version" of the Syria-war...

One complication; [url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/us-to-offer-iran-eased-sanctions-at-renewed-nuclear-talks-in-qatar/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/us-to-offer-iran-eased-sanctions-at-renewed-nuclear-talks-in-qatar/ - https://www.debka.com/mivzak/us-to-offer-iran-eased-sanctions-at-renewed-nuclear-talks-in-qatar/ ; The “indirect talks” between the US and Iran were resumed in Doha on Tuesday after the Vienna track petered out. Gulf observers report that Iran has decided against resuscitating the original 2015 nuclear accord and prefers a fresh start. According to those observers, the Americans have brought to Qatar proposals for a let-up on some of the sanctions the US imposed and for another look at the de-listing of the Revolutionary Guards on the list of terrorist organizations.

DJ The US (and EU) need Iran, Venezuela oil to replace Russian oil....

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/30/684778/Iran-president-calls-on-Caspian-states-to-step-up-cooperation[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/30/684778/Iran-president-calls-on-Caspian-states-to-step-up-cooperation - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/30/684778/Iran-president-calls-on-Caspian-states-to-step-up-cooperation ; Iran's President Ebrahim Raeisi has told a summit of the Caspian presidents in Ashgabat that cooperation among the littoral states has become increasingly important in light of international developments.

DJ A look at who where on the meeting; [url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/29/684775/Caspian-presidents-summit-foreign-troops-cooperation[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/29/684775/Caspian-presidents-summit-foreign-troops-cooperation - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/06/29/684775/Caspian-presidents-summit-foreign-troops-cooperation ; 

The five countries along the Caspian Sea have reaffirmed their shared commitment to keep foreign militaries out of the region.

The presidents of Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan met in Turkmenistan's capital, Ashgabat, on Wednesday for a summit to discuss regional cooperation and international issues.

DJ-"zelensky did talk to African leaders, western propaganda...only TWO !!!! African low rank persons did "watch zelensky"....

https://mobile.twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: inherit; font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; -webkit-box-align: stretch; -webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: vertical; align-items: stretch; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: flex; flex-basis: auto; flex-direction: column; flex-shrink: 0; min-height: 0px; min-width: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; z-index: 0; outline-style: none; -
- Imran Khan

In Pakistan Imran Khan keeps leading protests against a US led coup-that may fail to serve US interests anyway...[url]https://southfront.org/pakistani-navy-received-second-frigate-from-china/[/url] or https://southfront.org/pakistani-navy-received-second-frigate-from-china/ - https://southfront.org/pakistani-navy-received-second-frigate-from-china/  

DJ TIP Turkey-Iran-Pakistan cooperation is meant to balance between powerblocs...[url]https://southfront.org/iran-and-argentina-in-brics-would-advance-the-multipolar-project/[/url] or https://southfront.org/iran-and-argentina-in-brics-would-advance-the-multipolar-project/ - https://southfront.org/iran-and-argentina-in-brics-would-advance-the-multipolar-project/ the west does not want to know it...but "the west" did become a "side show" not the main event....

India is kept out of an "Asian NATO" "Blue Pacific of US-UK-France-Australia-New Zealand and Japan (as only Asian country) does not mean "Asia is united"...India does have major problems both with China and Pakistan...trying to put India interests first however leaves little room for "the west" in India...(because the west is going for western interests...). 

[url]https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220629007753315?section=national/diplomacy[/url] or https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220629007753315?section=national/diplomacy - https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220629007753315?section=national/diplomacy ; 

DJ, Yet South Korea staying out of the "Blue Pacific"...South Korean bussiness (ruling the country) does not want doors closed to the Asian market...

So the global picture-Brazil [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva expected to return...after the US did put fascist bolsenaro in power-still not following US orders...Argentina joining BRICS...other Latin American countries keep "doors open" (not following US sanction-war)-

again the west is isolated and facing major problems...

With both climate/weather and health/pandemic problems getting worse fast there may be "limited room" for starting more major wars...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 01 2022 at 11:10pm

DJ, 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqyIfO9eKJ8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqyIfO9eKJ8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqyIfO9eKJ8 WION-India; What did the G7 Summit 2022 achieve? For all its optics, the summit fell short on substance. The promises made were vague, the policies drafted unclear. Does this defeat the very purpose of this body? Does the G7 hold any relevance today? Palki Sharma reports.

and [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/putin-modi-hold-warm-phone-call-india-gorges-cheap-russian-oil[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/putin-modi-hold-warm-phone-call-india-gorges-cheap-russian-oil - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/putin-modi-hold-warm-phone-call-india-gorges-cheap-russian-oil ; Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin held an important phone call Friday wherein Modi underscored that India favors dialogue and diplomacy toward reaching a peaceful Ukraine solution. "In the context of the ongoing situation in Ukraine, Prime Minister reiterated India's long-standing position in favor of dialogue and diplomacy," a readout from his office said. But unlike interaction with Western leaders, including France's Macron, it appears Modi kept things relatively "light" when it came to rhetoric on Ukraine.

-

But things aren't so dire for either Russia or India when it comes to energy, as both appear to be positively benefitting from the West's attempt to halt Russian energy flows to Europe, even as G7 countries mull imposing a price cap on Russian oil.

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To review an astounding New York Times admission from last month on how the West's "punishing" of Vladimir Putin  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/13/climate/russia-oil-gas-record-revenue.html" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - is going ...

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggered global condemnation and tough sanctions aimed at denting Moscow’s war chest. Yet Russia’s revenues from fossil fuels, by far its biggest export, soared to records in the first 100 days of its war on Ukraine, driven by a windfall from oil sales amid surging prices, a new analysis shows.

Russia earned what is very likely a record 93 billion euros in revenue from exports of oil, gas and coal in the first 100 days of the country’s invasion of Ukraine, according to data analyzed by the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, a research organization based in Helsinki, Finland. About two-thirds of those earnings, the equivalent of about $97 billion, came from oil, and most of the remainder from natural gas.

"The current rate of revenue is unprecedented, because prices are unprecedented, and export volumes are close to their highest levels on record," said Lauri Myllyvirta, an analyst who led the center’s research.

But India, and also China, have been enjoying a steep discount of around $30 less per barrel compared to Brent during that time period the Times documented.

DJ, Indonesian President Widodo had a meeting with Putin [url]https://en.tempo.co/read/1607100/russian-presidential-aide-reveals-jokowi-and-putins-talks[/url] or https://en.tempo.co/read/1607100/russian-presidential-aide-reveals-jokowi-and-putins-talks - https://en.tempo.co/read/1607100/russian-presidential-aide-reveals-jokowi-and-putins-talks ;the two leaders will also discuss international situations, the war with Ukraine, food security issues, and the possible expansion of exports of Russian agricultural products, including wheat and fertilizers.

So India, Indonesia moving closer to Russia for trade-in their own currencies...just like Turkey is doing...

[url]https://tass.com/economy/1474721[/url] or https://tass.com/economy/1474721 - https://tass.com/economy/1474721 (Russia) ; MOSCOW, July 1. /TASS/. In June 2022, the countries of the European Union for the first time in history imported more liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States than pipeline gas from Russia, according to Executive Director of IEA Fatih Birol.

"We" in Europe buying expensive US energy...US weapons...NATO sending more and more weapons to Ukraine [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/ukraine-the-bear-caught-the-kraken-by-using-a-trick.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/ukraine-the-bear-caught-the-kraken-by-using-a-trick.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/ukraine-the-bear-caught-the-kraken-by-using-a-trick.html most of it being destroyed, fall in pro-Russian hands or end up on "the criminal market"...

Still "NATO is getting stronger", "the west is winning" and other empty stupidity...

Some points;

-The G7 came with an invesmentplan for countries they kept poor; main problem is it would need "private financing"...

-Turkey-at the Madrid-NATO meeting "agreed" to Sweden, Finland joining NATO...in return it wants extradition of prominent Kurds now living in Sweden and Finland..those countries working with Turkey on "security"..

-No doubt NATO will have given Turkey "all the room" to "do its thing" in Syria, Iraq...killing Kurds...(NATO did support this genocidefor decades...)

-Russia did -again- tell the Kurds to join the Syrian (and Iraq) Armies...If (most) Kurds refuse Russia may not be willing to stop Turkey "killing Kurds"-after wich Iraq and Syria will get/take control over the borderzone...

-Lithuania still trying to block Kaliningrad-to EU/Germany frustration...

-The economic costs of the sanction-war against Russia may see food/energy distribution/rationing in a lot of "the west"..

-NATO also agreed on calling China an enemy...de facto Iran also was already on the list...(following US insanity...)

So "the west" very divided is going full self destruction while Argentina, Iran join BRICS, other countries "in the south" seek cooperation with Russia, China...All "our" leaders" offer is more war, inflation (started by "post-pandemic stimulation"-fiat currencies...). "Putin" is allmighty...if he is "such a mighty leader" why the west expects Russians to want to get rid of Putin ? 

Putin did make trump US president, cause western hyperinflation...and Russians for that reason would dislike him ? 

DJ-The outcome of ongoing western utter stupidity of course is the west is getting cornered...BoJo does not want to close the door on China...Germany still hopes to be able to avoid economic collapse via Russian/Iran energy...But both the Euro and US/Canada dollar will crash...

Worsening health/climate crises disasters will weaken the west further-while "the rest" may seek international cooperation on climate, health, food&water...

Given the (lack of) "wisdom"  our "leaders" showed so far they still are able to "go nuclear" to show western superiority....However [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-falls-behind-hypersonic-weapons-race-after-another-failed-test[/url] or  https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-falls-behind-hypersonic-weapons-race-after-another-failed-test - https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-falls-behind-hypersonic-weapons-race-after-another-failed-test  "we" may have lost the nuclear option by now as well...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 07 2022 at 11:47pm

DJ, part of the links may be a bit older but still relevant in my opinion...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/nato-base-equipped-with-u-s-nukes-raided-by-police-meth-lab-busted[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/nato-base-equipped-with-u-s-nukes-raided-by-police-meth-lab-busted - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/nato-base-equipped-with-u-s-nukes-raided-by-police-meth-lab-busted ;

Belgium Police officials conducted a raid of Kleine-Brogel Air base, a NATO Joint base where U.S. nuclear bombs are stored, and busted a drug lab making Crystal Methamphetamine.  It gets worse: At least two individual arrested had to be let go because of "Diplomatic Immunity."

Kleine Brogel Air Base (ICAO: EBBL) is a Belgian Air Component military airfield located 0.8 nautical miles (1.5 km; 0.92 mi) east of Kleine-Brogel, in the municipality Peer, Belgium. It is home to the Belgian 10th Tactical Wing, operating F-16 Fighting Falcons, which are capable, among other capabilities, of delivering B61 nuclear bombs.

The base has been subject to much political controversy, because of American nuclear weapons allegedly being stored in the facility by the United States Air Force (USAF), but never recognized officially by the Belgian government.

Under the NATO nuclear sharing arrangement, these nuclear bombs would require an actual dual key system, which would imply the simultaneous authorizations of Belgium and the United States, before any action is taken. Should that be the case, Kleine Brogel Air Base would be the only location in Belgium with nuclear weapons.

According to the press, Eastern European Member States of NATO resisted the withdrawal of the shared nuclear bombs in Europe, fearing that it would show a weakening of the American commitment to defend the European Union against Russian aggression.

None of the five NATO member states, whose air forces allegedly might share its premises, have ever provided an official confirmation of the bombs existence. However, former Italian President Francesco Cossiga declared that the Aeronautica Militare hosted or shared American nuclear bombs, just as other NATO member states do. In an interview he talked about French weapons. In the same way, on 10 June 2013, former Dutch prime minister Ruud Lubbers confirmed the existence of 22 shared nuclear bombs at Volkel Air Base.

Kleine Brogel Air Base is also the home of the United States Air Force's 701st Munitions Support Squadron which allegedly is the unit in charge of looking after the shared nuclear bombs.

Belgium police raided the base just hours ago.  Several persons were taken under arrest, but there's a massive twist; at least two persons arrested had to be let go because they have "Diplomatic immunity."

The Source who provided this information to the Hal Turner Radio Show was quite explicit with this detail.  The source pointed out that had U.S. military been arrested, they would have remained under arrest and, if nothing else, would have been transferred to the custody of the US military and treated in accordance with the Status of Forces agreements that exist between countries.  But that is NOT "Diplomatic Immunity" which only applies to credentialed Diplomats and their staffers.

The source repeated this several times -- those let go had "Diplomatic Immunity."

It is not known yet if they were American diplomats / staff  or were from some other country . . . and right now a lid is being clamped down on information.

I expect more information soon.

The big takeaway for the time being is: What was a drug lab doing on a military base where US nuclear weapons are stored, and; who were the Diplomats invoilved?

We have US nuclear bombs (a.o.) at [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkel_Air_Base[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkel_Air_Base - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkel_Air_Base in the SE of NL...[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/07/court-reopens-de-vries-murder-trial-new-details-surface[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/07/court-reopens-de-vries-murder-trial-new-details-surface - https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/07/court-reopens-de-vries-murder-trial-new-details-surface  

Since NL is the "logistics entry to Europe" a lot of drug-trade is going via NL/Belgium...military (transports) may be a factor...How much control does "organized crime" have over US (and other) nuclear weapons ??? Criminal finance could play a "very major role" during the 2008 bank-crisis...Criminal economy may almost as big as the official one...

Here in NL crime-money went from real estate in cities to "recreation parks"...Tax evasion is "a main source of income" for some countries (NL, Switzerland, Ireland...). 

-[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-new-weapons-based-on-new-physics-u-s-nato-missiles-would-never-leave-their-silos[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-new-weapons-based-on-new-physics-u-s-nato-missiles-would-never-leave-their-silos - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-new-weapons-based-on-new-physics-u-s-nato-missiles-would-never-leave-their-silos ;

Russian designers managed to create a compact EMR - a generator that can be easily placed in the body of any Russian missile, in the place of the warhead ("Caliber", "Zircon", "Onyx", "Dagger", "Iskander", "Petrel" and others ).

It is assumed that the rocket, being at the right height and above the right place, produces an explosion, forming an electromagnetic impulse as a shock wave, while the manpower and buildings remain intact.

"Alabuga" - disables any enemy electronics, such as a tank platoon, an airfield with aircraft, and even simple mobile phones, computers and other household appliances. After that, the enemy will simply have no choice but to surrender and give all their weapons to the advancing units of the Russian army as trophies" - A high-ranking specialist of the Rostec concern, who wished to remain anonymous.

And if EMP "Alabuga" are placed on the missiles "Petrel", which have an infinite range, and "land" this missile somewhere in the United States, next to the launch silos of nuclear ballistic missiles, the coordinates of which are known, then it is possible to activate the generator at the right time, thereby disable the "atomic fist" of the United States.

The very idea of an Electro-Magnetic weapon is not new, and arose during the first Nuclear tests, because the EMP Wave is one of the damaging factors. For example, in 1962, when testing atomic weapons, the United States blew up at an altitude of 400 kilometers, a charge with a capacity of only 1.4 megatons.
The result was amazing. Unexpectedly for themselves, they disabled 2 Soviet satellites and 4 of their own.

Knowing these facts, the Alabuga complex looks like a more than realistic project.

There are many more surprises waiting and someday we will be able to tell about it!

DJ Make the enemy weapons useless before they can be used would be "max first strike"....



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: July 08 2022 at 2:02am

More  fake news from a mentally handicapped felon aimed at his ignorant followers. Hal's sources exist solely in his deranged mind...

On Wednesday 22 June, the local police Kempenland found a production location for MDMA on a small military domain in Peer. It is not about the Klein-Brogel air force base, as was previously communicated.

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The investigators found indications that a nearby house was also involved in the creation of the synthetic drug lab. With a view to further investigation, two people were arrested on the spot and deprived of their liberty. 


It is also an old zone of a former military base that is not fenced. It is not clear how long the suspects had been working in the shed.



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 08 2022 at 2:29am

ksc, 

[url]https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20220628_94945514[/url] or https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20220628_94945514 - https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20220628_94945514 and [url]https://www.hln.be/peer/verdachten-produceren-drugs-in-verlaten-loods-op-militaire-basis-in-peer~a8430ea9/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F[/url] or https://www.hln.be/peer/verdachten-produceren-drugs-in-verlaten-loods-op-militaire-basis-in-peer~a8430ea9/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F - https://www.hln.be/peer/verdachten-produceren-drugs-in-verlaten-loods-op-militaire-basis-in-peer~a8430ea9/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F  

on the Belgian drugslab first (Belgian) reporting was incorrect...The lab was found at a kerosine-supply post indirect linked with the airbase...The news I did find mentions two arrests...

[url]https://english.almayadeen.net/news/miscellaneous/ecstasy-drug-lab-found-at-nato-airbase-in-belgium[/url] or https://english.almayadeen.net/news/miscellaneous/ecstasy-drug-lab-found-at-nato-airbase-in-belgium - https://english.almayadeen.net/news/miscellaneous/ecstasy-drug-lab-found-at-nato-airbase-in-belgium ;The Guardian has written about the drug lab on the airbase, but removed the news piece just after users started propagating it on social media.

and [url]https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/06/28/Belgium-busts-drug-lab-on-air-base-housing-US-nukes[/url] or https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/06/28/Belgium-busts-drug-lab-on-air-base-housing-US-nukes - https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/06/28/Belgium-busts-drug-lab-on-air-base-housing-US-nukes DJ-point is drugs related crime has exploded in NL and Belgium...it is very likely military are involved. They can often travel/transport outside customs.

HT did not give sources for his claim of the arrested having a diplomatic status...still that aspect would be "kept out of the news"...



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~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 08 2022 at 10:36pm

ksc is going for a western view of events in Ukraine...I, DJ, think the western version is "far from complete"....

Maybe ksc and I could agree on "western values" under threat...Russia-Iran-China may be getting much more global power. The "west" (in reaction) could become less democratic...

I do not think "the west" is the "champion of democracy"...it is moving towards a crisis as well...But I could not write on this forum what I write if I lived in most non-western countries...

Freedom to form your opinion, to disagree, makes us stronger....

The murder on Abe in Japan, the UK bojo-crisis...with bojo trying to stay UK PM for the coming months do increase global insecurity. 

The pandemic, climate disasters further increase global instability. 

-On Ukraine;

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_tOijcA4CM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_tOijcA4CM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_tOijcA4CM Military Summary may give a good view on events...[url]https://liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/ - https://liveuamap.com/ is very pro-Ukraine...

If you google you may find other maps, YouTube links etc. 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/claim-ukraine-soldiers-sold-u-s-himars-to-chechens-who-were-russian-army-intel[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/claim-ukraine-soldiers-sold-u-s-himars-to-chechens-who-were-russian-army-intel - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/claim-ukraine-soldiers-sold-u-s-himars-to-chechens-who-were-russian-army-intel ;

Reports are coming in CLAIMING (not yet verified) that Ukrainian Armed Forces members SOLD a United States "HIMARS" Multiple Rocket Launcher System (MLRS) to men they thought were "Chechens" for one million dollars.

The "Chechens" turned out to be Russian military intelligence.

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More details if I get them, but I emphasize that these claims are, as yet, UNVERIFIED.

DJ...Hal Turner writes a lot of "incomplete stories"...He is open on his "far right wing-yet anti nazi-views...(pro-trump, climate/CoViD=fake in his view...). I do take HT with lots of grains of salt...However there are also other claims of western weapons send to Ukraine being sold...

Yesterday I did put a story on a drugslab at/near a Belgian Air Base (it was in the kerosine-storage area...not directly linked to the airbase other then pipelines). I think military and crime is a dangerous mix...both in the west and the rest of the world...

There once were claims Pakistan did sell a "claim for use" of a nuclear weapon to the king of Saudi Arabia. Even states break all kinds of agreements...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-russia-issues-final-warning-to-lithuania-they-have-only-a-few-days-to-stop-blocking-rail-traffic-to-kaliningrad[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-russia-issues-final-warning-to-lithuania-they-have-only-a-few-days-to-stop-blocking-rail-traffic-to-kaliningrad - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/breaking-news-russia-issues-final-warning-to-lithuania-they-have-only-a-few-days-to-stop-blocking-rail-traffic-to-kaliningrad ;

Russia has completed its preparations and is ready to respond to the Lithuanian blockade of Kaliningrad if something does not change in the next few days, said Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry.

She did not specify what Russia has planned, but one thing is certain: When Russia tells another country they are going to do something, Russia does what it says.

Lithuania is a NATO member.

This could get very ugly, very fast.

More info if I get it . . . .

DJ...Kaliningrad is discussed on other places (then HT) as well...The general view is the EU is NOT happy at all with Lithuania blocking the links between Russia and Kaliningrad...(Maybe Poland is supporting Lithuania though...). So-DJ-I think Russia is-for now-increasing pressure on the EU...

Lots of non-military steps are possible. Lithuania still has a lot of trade with Russia-still not under sanctions...From food to electricity...Russia may stop that trade...

Kaliningrad can get supplied by boat...people can get evacuated to mainland Russia...(so less supplies are needed for Kaliningrad). I do not expect any military action from Russia towards Lithuania...Russia still may hope talks can end the conflict...

Another remark...even if some claims of Russian losses being "20 Ukraine soldiers killed for 1 Russian soldier" (and at least 1 extra in the pro-Russian militia) my impression is Ukraine is dealing with very heavy losses. If Ukraine would have seen 50,000 soldiers killed then Russian losses would be 2,500 (and militia +2,500)...for Russia those numbers are high...They can replace them with ease...but the Russian population has to believe Putin his claim the Ukraine war is meant to avoid an even larger war wich would see even more Russians killed...

For now-still-most Russians seem to accept that view...

-Abe murder/China-Japan

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ozZPxmStaE[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ozZPxmStaE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ozZPxmStaE New Atlas ;

Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was assassinated in Nara, Japan while giving a speech. A suspect, a local resident allegedly a former member of Japan’s military, was detained. While the motives are still being investigated, anti-China circles are already leveraging the event to direct anger and suspicion toward Beijing. In reality - only the United States benefits from this event and the notion of blaming China for it - escalating tensions in Asia - a region the US finds its power and influence over waning. References: BBC - Shinzo Abe: Killing of Japan's ex-PM described as 'barbaric': https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-6... Harvard University’s Atlas of Economic Complexity - Japan 2019: https://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/explore... Where to Find My Work: Visit The New Atlas Website: https://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/ Follow The New Atlas on Telegram: https://t.me/brianlovethailand

DJ, Abe wanted friendship with Russia to unite against China...Still China (+ Hong Kong) is the main trade import/export partner of Japan...

Abe and Mhodi-India had very good relations...

From India WION on bojo staying in power [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-eK4nh6uCc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-eK4nh6uCc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-eK4nh6uCc ;

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has resigned from office, but he wants to stay till a replacement leader is named. Senior Conservatives want Johnson to step down immediately and make way for a caretaker PM, but Johnson has refused.

DJ, In "the west" economic problems are moving towards political problems...growing instability increases nuclear risks...BoJo-in the UK-has to be caretaker MP not doing any major choices any longer...no one expects bojo to act that way...

Bojo has a "Churchill-complex" , seems to believe "he can lead the UK in war times"...so bojo needs war...The UK does not...The longer bojo stays as PM the higher the risks of Irish reunification (with EU support), Scotland (and maybe even Wales ?) breaking away from the UK...Brexit was not the choice of the Non-England part of the UK...Bojo did waste the Brexit vote to turn the UK into a US colony...

The Brexit-vote did become a decleration of war from bojo-UK against the EU (far from perfect...now much to close to NATO...in my opinion)...

Interesting times...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 12 2022 at 9:55pm

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMuiX1aBgQ[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMuiX1aBgQ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMuiX1aBgQ Military Summary on the Ukraine war giving daily updates. 

[url]https://southfront.org/the-ukrainian-military-fights-zelensky/[/url] or https://southfront.org/the-ukrainian-military-fights-zelensky/ - https://southfront.org/the-ukrainian-military-fights-zelensky/ conflicts in Ukraine leadership. Not pulling back forces in time is losing lots of forces...

DJ, I know Hal Turner has "a bad reputation"...I totally disagree with lots of his political views...

However HT has been warning for further escalation for months. In the past he made some claims that were "very realistic" (a.o. Türkiye en Saudi Arabia planning to invade Syria-with US support...I have to look at the timeline but it may be one of the reasons Russia moved in...). 

So....further escalation of the NATO-Russia war in Ukraine could result in; 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/bulletin-urgent-new-york-city-begins-preparing-population-for-nuclear-attack[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/bulletin-urgent-new-york-city-begins-preparing-population-for-nuclear-attack - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/bulletin-urgent-new-york-city-begins-preparing-population-for-nuclear-attack ;

The New York City Office of Emergency Management has issued a video TRAINING NEW YORKERS FOR WHAT TO DO WHEN A NUCLEAR BOMB HITS.

The ninety second video was released this morning, July 11, 2022, appears below.  It is widely believed they have put out this video because THEY KNOW what's coming . . . . because it is the government that intends to cause it.

They are pushing Russia so far with economic sanctions over Ukraine, that the Russians will have no choice but to launch a full nuclear attack because what we are doing is now an existential threat to Russia.

Rather than stop what we're doing, they intend to keep pushing and THEY KNOW what the result will be.

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IDIOCY

In the video, they tell New Yorkers to get inside.   Good advice . . . if there's anything left standing to actually get inside of!

Then, in the height of utter stupidity, they tell New Yorkers "If you were outside when the blast hit, take off all clothes, shower and shampoo to wash the radiation off immediately."   THERE WON'T BE ANY RUNNING WATER.   The water mains will all be ruptured from the blast and the electric that powers the water pumps will all be off for miles.  

But wait, there's more . . .  idiocy . . . . they tell New Yorkers "stay tuned to local media and don't go outside until authorities tell you it's safe."  THERE WON'T BE ANY LOCAL MEDIA.  It will all be blown up.  All the TV and radio transmitters will be wiped out!

As if to add insult to injury, they tell New Yorkers "Sign up to NYC-alerts"  (with your cell phone). . . THERE WON'T BE ANY CELL PHONE SERVICE. The towers will all be knocked down, the transmitters fried by electro-magnetic pulse, and the electric will all be out.  THERE WON'T BE ANY INTERNET SERVICE. All the Internet lines will be blown up and the wireless all offline from EMP or no electricity!!!

 

THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING

Government does not do things like this for no reason.   In this case, THEY KNOW what's coming because it is government that is causing it.  

They've been planning a "take-down" of Russia, for decades.  They expanded NATO when they promised Russia they would not move "one inch eastward" upon the re-unification of East and West Germany.  They broke that promise in stages, moving little by little closer to Russia's borders.

When they got to Ukraine, they wooed then-President Viktor Yanukovich with promises of riches and wealth for Ukraine if they departed from Russia's sphere of influence, and joined Europe and the United States sphere of influence.

Yanukovich thought about it.  He consulted with his government officials.  He spoke to businesses in Ukraine.  He spoke with many average Ukrainians.  In 2013, Yanukovich told Europe and America "Thanks, but NO THANKS."  Well, that was an answer that Europe and America just wouldn't accept.

So the US and Europe began pouring money into Ukraine to foment and facilitate violent protests; riots in every major city.  Within a year, in 2014, rioters burned government buildings. Snipers were shooting people on both sides to foment more violence.   It got so bad, that Yanukovich had to flee the country and the Ukraine government collapsed.

Who was right there to finance new political candidates?   Europe and America.  So they were able to install a puppet government favorable to the West.

When Russia saw this taking place, they were stunned.  This was happening right at their own border.  The west was overthrowing Ukraine's government because they need Ukraine in NATO.   You see, they want to put American missile defenses on Ukraine territory.   By positioning our missiles there, they would have a flight time of only about five minutes to Moscow.  They would also have a flight time of only 7-8 minutes to Russia's strategic nuclear missile silos.

Russia had to act in its own defense.  They did what our own President, John F. Kennedy did, when Kennedy found out the then-Soviet Union had placed medium range and intermediate range nuclear missiles in Cuba, with a flight time of only 5 minutes to Washington, DC:  Kennedy blockaded  Cuba and began massing troops for an invasion.

Thankfully, both sides negotiated a peaceful settlement to what became known as the "Cuban Missile Crisis."   That was in 1962-63.

Today, the situation is exactly reversed; it is the West trying to put missiles withing 5 minutes flight time of Moscow, and Russia said No.

When Ukraine decided they were actually going to join NATO, and allow those missiles . . . and even began preparing for a NATO naval base on the Black Sea, Russia had enough.

By November of last year, NATO had trained the Ukraine Army for eight years under the West-installed puppet government.  The Ukrainians had also massed about 80,000 troops on the borders of the eastern states of Luhansk and Donetsk (collectively called "The Donbas") - and both states directly border Russia.   So Russia knew Ukraine was prepping its military and its land for a confrontation.  Russia thus had to strike first.  Russia entered Ukraine on February 24, 2022.

Instead of backing off, the West upped-the-ante . . . they imposed crippling economic sanctions upon Russia specifically designed to crush Russia's economy.   The sanctions backfired and are harming the west more than harming Russia.

So what is the west doing now . . . . massing troops in NATO countries along Russia's border.

Russia has said that if NATO and Russia go to war, NATO has superior conventional forces.  Russia admits that.   But Russia also said "Russia is a nuclear power and Russian nuclear forces are superior to NATO."  President Vladimir Putin said publicly, "It will be a war that no one will win."

The only war that "no one will win" is a nuclear war.

NOW, the NYC Office of Emergency Management is publicly telling New Yorkers what to do when a nuclear bomb hits.  

WHY?

Because they know what's coming . . . . because our own government is the cause of it. That's why, in the first few seconds of the video above, they actually tell you 'don't ask why, or how . . . ."   BECAUSE IF YOU START ASKING WHY, YOU'LL FIGURE OUT THAT IT IS OUR GOVERNMENT THAT IS CAUSING THIS! ! ! ! ! 

It is now clear that the US intends to engage in a nuclear war with Russia.  THAT is why NYC OEM is putting out these warnings. 

 

HAL TURNER EDITORIAL OPINION

I cannot even begin to describe to you, the heat I have taken over the past few months, for warning my web site visitors and radio audience that nukes are going to fly.  I was called "crazy" by the public.   My stories were smeared as "click bait."   My sources were derided as "fear mongers."  My radio show was attacked as "scaring the public."

So now that  the New York City Office of Emergency Management is actually telling New Yorkers what to do when a nuclear bomb hits, I wonder if folks might figure out that I've been right all along?

 

And ;

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-russian-ministry-of-defense-we-are-on-the-verge-of-an-immediate-armed-conflict-with-the-united-states[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-russian-ministry-of-defense-we-are-on-the-verge-of-an-immediate-armed-conflict-with-the-united-states - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-russian-ministry-of-defense-we-are-on-the-verge-of-an-immediate-armed-conflict-with-the-united-states ;

The Russian Ministry of Defense issued a very late night Press Statement saying "We are on the verge of an immediate armed conflict with the United States" after Ukraine used U.S.-supplied HIMARS weapons to attack a Russian base.  As of 7:12 PM EDT, at least 7 Russian troops are dead and at least 40 are injured.  Those numbers are rapidly rising and changing fast.

In addition to the Russian MoD, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has also issued a statement:

The United States and its allies are teetering on the brink of an open military conflict with Moscow, which would be fraught with nuclear tensions, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in a statement on Tuesday.

"After provoking an escalation of the Ukrainian crisis and unleashing a violent hybrid confrontation with Russia, Washington and its allies are dangerously teetering on the brink of an open military confrontation with our country, which means a direct armed conflict between nuclear powers. Clearly, such a confrontation would be fraught with nuclear escalation," the statement reads.

 

UPDATE 7:19 PM EDT --

Henry Kissinger just said on Fox News that we should expect direct conflict with Russia by mId-August.

DJ NATO/US is directing missiles from Ukraine towards (pro)Russian targers...Longer range weapons-further away from the frontlines- shelling pro-Russian targets from Ukraine may be operated (at least in part) by NATO military...

There have been "special forces" sabotage operations inside Russia...as far as reported most of them not far from the Ukraine border. 

French, US,UK weapons hit civilian targets in Donetsk and Luhansk...

DJ-NATO goal is "to make Russia pay" for stopping NATO expansion...NATO -the west- wants to dominate "the rest" of the world...

Kissinger may mention august, next month- for a reason; Ukraine is working -it claims- to prepare a counter offensive. Indications are it may be in the south of Ukraine, Kherson (Xepcoh) west of Dnjepr-river. 

Poland, Lithuania, UK and others are "fully involved"..

DJ-I would not rule out NATO may go for a "no-fly zone" over western Ukraine-bringing even more Russian-NATO confrontation. Without air control all supplies to Ukraine risk destruction before they reach the frontlines...

The west is using zelensky...I do not think zelensky is any longer in control of the Ukraine (war)...the US is. 

DJ-We need de-escalation NOW !!!! A compromise so "nobody loses this war that can have no winners"....Further confrontation/escalation will ignite an "out of control" conflict...that will kill us all...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 20 2022 at 11:13pm

DJ, 

Russia is kicking NATO out of Ukraine...NATO has "limited means" for further escalation;

-NATO countries still need Russian gas and raw materials...NATO is still paying most of the Russian war machine...

(Bying India, Türkiye refinery products made of Russian oil is just one way of fooling yourself...) 

-NATO is running out of weapons that can be used/shipped in Ukraine

(with Russian air superiority those weapons often are destroyed before front-line use...or sold on the internet...)

-[url]https://iuvmpress.news/a-coup-is-being-prepared-against-zelensky/[/url] or https://iuvmpress.news/a-coup-is-being-prepared-against-zelensky/ - https://iuvmpress.news/a-coup-is-being-prepared-against-zelensky/ The Kiev junta is at its end...zelensky is a US puppet destroying Ukraine...Most Ukrainians once voted for zelensky because he would END the war....From neo-nazi's, IS types (send in via Turkey from Syria) to the military, moderates, pro-Russians...about ALL of the Ukraine population is fed up by this ongoing war...

DJ An "Afghanistan scenario" may be maybe only weeks away...Mutiny in the army, an uprising to end the war...NATO did lose this expansion war allready...only not willing to face the facts...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/lavrov-extended-range-weapons-in-ukraine-will-lead-to-more-loss-of-its-land.html More long range US weapons in Ukraine only will prolong the war, bring Ukraine and the west a higher price to pay....

-Middle East frontline;

DJ Russian and US forces confront eachother almost on a daily bases in East Syria...[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/strengthening-ties-iran-putin-meets-supreme-leader-tehran[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/strengthening-ties-iran-putin-meets-supreme-leader-tehran - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/strengthening-ties-iran-putin-meets-supreme-leader-tehran and [url]https://southfront.org/erdogan-renews-warning-of-new-military-operation-in-syria-after-tehran-summit/[/url] or https://southfront.org/erdogan-renews-warning-of-new-military-operation-in-syria-after-tehran-summit/ - https://southfront.org/erdogan-renews-warning-of-new-military-operation-in-syria-after-tehran-summit/  

-Russia has been pushing for the Kurds to join the Syrian Arab Army (S.A.A.) for years...problems may be both in some Kurdish groups and in what the Syrian Army can offer...

-Türkiye/Erdogan simply has a point that most Kurds in Syria are from Türkiye....

-Russia is balancing in between lots of conflicts in Syria/Middle East...with Russian/Türkiye patrols on the Turkish border to monitoring Israel Air Force actions in Middle East airspace...

-With Israël now sending military (goods, special forces, "volunteers") into Ukraine, IDF attacks on Damascus International Airport, increasing risks of Israël attacking Iran Russia now going for a harder line against Israël (may shoot down Israeli planes...)

-Saudi Arabia, Türkiye, Egypt discussing joining BRICS EurAsian (Russia/China led) integration the "position of the west" is getting weaker in MENA (Middele East North Africa). 

-NATO was kicked out of Afghanistan, is about to get kicked out of Ukraine...time has come to kick NATO/US out of Syria and Iraq...

-The Tehran-Top Russia-Iran-Türkiye was not only on trade (a.o. via Iran to India) but also on trying to find a "united stand" on "the middle east";

-Saudi-Iran further talks may need help from others...China investments using Saudi Arabia as a link to Africa ? 

-India, Türkiye companies replaced western companies in Russia...Türkiye-Iran-Pakistan TIP links are a major corridor for China, Russia to Africa...can "TIP" become "STIP" with Saudi Arabia a further western link ? (STIEP including also Egypt or Ethiopia ? Red Sea/Suez canal). 

DJ The Chinese rule "make trade not war" is getting dominant....The western "make war not trade" is ending the west...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 4:44am

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOxvO0wSORU[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOxvO0wSORU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOxvO0wSORU ;Russian President Vladimir Putin is on Iran visit to deepen ties with the Islamic Republic as Moscow continues its months-long war in Ukraine.

and [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8BsL0VqeY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8BsL0VqeY - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8BsL0VqeY ; Gulf states refused to increase oil production despite a nudge from US President Joe Biden. Oil prices topped $100 per barrel after the snub by Saudi Arabia and its gulf allies. Palki Sharma recaps Biden's West Asia misfire.

WION India...biden visited Israel/Saudi Arabia with 3 goals;

-More oil-lower inflation (in the US)

-Israel-Saudi peace deal

-Arab NATO

biden failed on all three goals...he better had stayed in the US because oil prices went up after his visit...

Alexander Mercouris [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Xyux0XJTk[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Xyux0XJTk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Xyux0XJTk ;

Russia Continues Donbass-Kharkov Advance, Ukraine Aims at Kherson, Russia Iran Strike Massive Gas Deal in Tehran News Topic 557

DJ Gazprom will help Iran in exploration/transportation of a very major Iran gasfield. That gas will go (DJ-via international waters the IPI-deal is off...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Pakistan_gas_pipeline[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Pakistan_gas_pipeline - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Pakistan_gas_pipeline ). 

Türkiye may have interests in getting energy from Iran as well...Possibly Iran also will increase oil expert to India so Russia can focus more on energy deals with China....

Saudi Arabia may try to stay onboard in the major Asia energy deals....also welcoming energy trade outside the us$ system...

DJ The NATO provocation causing the Ukraine war is now backfiring at "the west" being sidelined in many ways;

-global energy trade (even via OPEC) now moving away from the us$

-also international finance moving away from SWIFT...even Lloyd ship insurance being replaced to secure Greek tankers transporting Russian oil to China, India with Chinese insurance companies..

-Western Europe facing a major energy crisis with time running out for alternatives for Russian energy...

-US mid-term elections four months from now...if biden c.s. want to limit damage they need to get results...

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/21/dutch-military-reaching-limits-can-give-ukraine[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/21/dutch-military-reaching-limits-can-give-ukraine - https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/21/dutch-military-reaching-limits-can-give-ukraine ; The Dutch military is reaching the limit of what it can do to support Ukraine with equipment. The Defense warehouses are getting empty.

DJ Most NATO countries have reached limits-or even went over their limits- in help for Ukraine...Even Poland may think twice with any further escalation...liz truss-replacing the bojo-UK disaster-may inflict further damage to the west...But in general "the west" wants to move out of this conflict....

So in Ukraine itself most Ukrainians want this war/disaster to end....zelensky and "his club" will be very lucky if they can use their UK passports to get to their luxery Swiss houses end spend the money they did steel...

But also "the west" starting to realize they can not beat "the rest"...Most of the world does see NATO moving into Ukraine as a provocation...Israel another "non-NATO NATO member" as yet another US made problem....

DJ The only option "the west" now has is damage control.....meaning the west has to accept any Russian offer on Ukraine...Neutrality, at least something of Ukraine remaining (for Ukraine Odessa, access to the Black Sea may prove essential...), may be the "best option"....An alternative would be Ukraine -all of it-included in Russia...(with the millions of Ukrainians that find that hard to accept becoming refugees in the west...)

Given the insane comments from biden c.s. on "Putin is isolated" after meeting Iran leaders twice since the start of the Ukraine war...it looks like "western leaders" want more problems...

Excluding the west from almost all non-western (energy) trade could be next....both Europe and North America may face a hard winter, hyperinflation, not only an energy but also a foodcrisis...resulting in a political crisis reminding of 1776/1789 US/French revolutions....

DJ Is there a "nuclear option" for the west ? Given the number of enemies the west now is facing...from Latin America to East Asia...Also Russia, China having hypersonic weapons, "NO" ...

I think "the west" is already breaking up...Italy facing a major crisis...Hungary going its own way...Climate disasters and pandemics further increasing unrest and collapse...

New leaders may be able to limit the damage....start talks not wars....

[url]https://southfront.org/polish-special-services-assessed-situation-in-ukraine-as-catastrophe/[/url] or https://southfront.org/polish-special-services-assessed-situation-in-ukraine-as-catastrophe/ - https://southfront.org/polish-special-services-assessed-situation-in-ukraine-as-catastrophe/ ;

Since May of this year, almost all management functions in the planning and conduct of hostilities have been assumed by foreign advisers from the United States, Great Britain and Canada. Although, the fact of their presence at command posts is kept secret in order to prevent the personnel of NATO military countries from being captured by the Russian Armed Forces.

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 In Warsaw, it is not excluded that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine misleads the allies in order to obtain new weapons.

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The special services also noted that the weapons delivered to Kiev are not used for their intended purpose. It is often used for shelling cities. The military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are unable to maintain complex weapons systems on their own, therefore, foreign instructors from among mercenaries are often deployed in artillery positions.

DJ, Poland may decide further support to Ukraine will not be serving any goals....

[url]http://thesaker.is/the-power-troika-trumps-biden-in-west-asia/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/the-power-troika-trumps-biden-in-west-asia/ - http://thesaker.is/the-power-troika-trumps-biden-in-west-asia/ ;

The presidents of Russia, Iran, and Turkey convened to discuss critical issues pertaining to West Asia, with the illegal US occupation of Syria a key talking point.  Oil and gas, wheat and grains, missiles and drones – the hottest topics in global geopolitics today – were all on the agenda in Tehran this week.

By Pepe Escobar, posted with the author’s permission and cross posted with The Cradle

DJ, The US goals of the Ukraine war were breaking up EurAsian integration, regime change in Moscow....

It is time "western leaders" come to their senses...



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 24 2022 at 1:19am

DJ 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/odessa-port-rocked-airstrikes-hours-after-ukraine-grain-export-deal-signed[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/odessa-port-rocked-airstrikes-hours-after-ukraine-grain-export-deal-signed - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/odessa-port-rocked-airstrikes-hours-after-ukraine-grain-export-deal-signed ; 

Update(1524ET)While the White House and European allies, along with the Ukrainian government, were lock-step in condemning as outrageous a series of reported Russian airstrikes on the port of Odesa the morning after the grain export deal was signed in Istanbul, the Kremlin is apparently denying it was behind  https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-712857" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - the attack :

Turkey's defense minister said on Saturday that https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-712043" rel="" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Russian officials had told Ankara that Moscow had "nothing to do" with strikes on Ukraine's Odesa port.

"In our contact with Russia, the Russians told us that they had absolutely nothing to do with this attack and that they were examining the issue very closely and in detail," Defence Minister Hulusai Akar said in a statement.

"The fact that such an incident took place right after the agreement we made yesterday really worried us," he added.

Ukraine for its part, has said it is still preparing agricultural exports despite the threat of more strikes. Key infrastructure at Odesa port was not damaged, according to local officials.

I tend to believe the Russians....Ukraine going for more propaganda and false flags...with the help of "western PR companies"? 

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/staged-incidents-as-the-western-approach-of-doing-politics[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/staged-incidents-as-the-western-approach-of-doing-politics - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/staged-incidents-as-the-western-approach-of-doing-politics the amount of lies both Ukraine and the west keeps producing...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-hits-donetsk-city-with-incindiary-artillery-shells[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-hits-donetsk-city-with-incindiary-artillery-shells - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ukraine-army-hits-donetsk-city-with-incindiary-artillery-shells   while ignoring still ukraine mass murder on Russians is totally disgusting....

[url]https://southfront.org/in-video-russian-kub-bla-loitering-munitions-decimate-camp-of-kiev-forces/[/url] or https://southfront.org/in-video-russian-kub-bla-loitering-munitions-decimate-camp-of-kiev-forces/ - https://southfront.org/in-video-russian-kub-bla-loitering-munitions-decimate-camp-of-kiev-forces/   Russia is killing hundreds of Ukranian military each day....

Pushing Ukraine to keep fighting is another US crime...

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/ukraine-grain-exports-myths-and-reality.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/ukraine-grain-exports-myths-and-reality.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/ukraine-grain-exports-myths-and-reality.html  

DJ Since this has become a "war of the west against the rest" and "western leaders" fail to show any intelligence risks for more war-also with China [url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1270920.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1270920.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1270920.shtml ; The Financial Times on Tuesday said US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would take a delegation to Asia in August including the Taiwan island, citing the so-called people familiar with the situation. If the news is true and the trip happens, it will be one of the most egregious provocations by the US to China on the Taiwan question since the establishment of diplomatic relations between China and the US.

DJ; Russia has been warning "the west" it would NOT allow further NATO expansion eastwards-breaking the 1990 agreement NOT to do so only resulted in biden pushing for war...

Pelosi -the US- de facto going for "two China's" is pushing also for a war of "the west" against China...

[url]https://www.debka.com/thursdays-missile-attack-wiped-out-the-iranian-hizballah-command-center-in-damascus/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/thursdays-missile-attack-wiped-out-the-iranian-hizballah-command-center-in-damascus/ - https://www.debka.com/thursdays-missile-attack-wiped-out-the-iranian-hizballah-command-center-in-damascus/ ;

Exclusive: The missile strike over Damascus on Thursday, July 21, was one of the widest-ranging and strategically important operation ever attributed to Israel in Syria. It hammered the “Iranian Park,” which, DEBKAfile’s exclusive military sources disclose, hosted the general command center of Iran and Hizballah in Syria. The site is situated at al Sayyida Zaynab, a Shiite holy shrine in a southern suburb of Damascus.

The buildings razed to the ground included ammunition stores and a stockpile of rockets as well as the premises of command and security personnel.
Syria officially reported three soldiers were killed in the attack and seven injured. Other sources referred to eight dead, including three non-Syrians. Our sources have discovered that the death toll ran to dozens of officers of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and their Hizballah proxy.

The operation came during a week in which Iran’s president Ebrahim Raisi hosted Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Turkey’s Recep Erdogan for a rare trilateral summit. However, another visitor to Tehran stayed out of the limelight. He was Syrian Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad and he came bearing a pressing request from his boss, Bashar Assad, to cut down on the Revolutionary Guards presence in the Damascus region and Syria’s air bases. Mekdad came away from his mission empty-handed. He had just returned home from the Iranian snub when the “Iranian Park” was pulverized by hostile missiles.

DJ; Russia also warned Israel against further attacks in Syria...only to be ignored...



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Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: July 24 2022 at 2:16am

You're one lie behind.... Russia has now come up with a new lie and is claiming the missiles were aimed at "military infrastructure". 

Obviously (to those not fooled by Russian propaganda) the Russian strike on Odessa was meant to send a message, common with terrorist regimes.



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 24 2022 at 2:38am

ksc...any links...other then western/ukraine lies ? 



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Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: July 24 2022 at 3:11am

Sorry Russian Josh, you'll have to fetch them yourself. They should be popping up on the felon and pedophile news feeds you follow soon.....



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 24 2022 at 3:30am

KSC, going for insults is the 'best" you can ? 

[url]https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/24-july-russian-strike-on-odessa-port-hit-ukrainian-military[/url] or https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/24-july-russian-strike-on-odessa-port-hit-ukrainian-military - https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/24-july-russian-strike-on-odessa-port-hit-ukrainian-military may fit your "claims" better...




https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1551114625827180544" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: rgb(83, 100, 113); font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; padding: 0px; white-space: inherit; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px; - · https://help.twitter.com/using-twitter/how-to-tweet#source-labels" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" style="background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: rgb(83, 100, 113); font: inherit; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration: none; cursor: pointer; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; padding: 0px; white-space: normal; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px; -
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- Ragıp Soylu

though not clear if it is the same attack...given minor damage on the Ukraine video's [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/odessa-port-rocked-airstrikes-hours-after-ukraine-grain-export-deal-signed[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/odessa-port-rocked-airstrikes-hours-after-ukraine-grain-export-deal-signed - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/odessa-port-rocked-airstrikes-hours-after-ukraine-grain-export-deal-signed has timing july 23...Russian claim on attack on Odessa port was july 24...may be another attack...Ukraine now NOT is reporting...(to make it fit its claims...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EptKPpDFUv0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EptKPpDFUv0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EptKPpDFUv0 Alexander Mercouris;

Ukrainian Kherson Attack Fails; EU Retreats on Russian Food Oil Exports; Ukraine Accepts Putin's Black Sea Ports' Demands News Topic 560 https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/pr...

DJ, AM making the point "new EU sanctions" may open/undo some of the sanctions on energy and grain...



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 24 2022 at 5:47am
  • Jul 23 - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/ukraine-grain-exports-myths-and-reality.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - Ukraine Grain Exports - Myths And Reality
    Related:
    https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/status-anxiety-and-the-war-in-ukraine" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - Status anxiety and the war in Ukraine - Paul Robinson
    https://yasha.substack.com/p/a-short-ethnic-history-of-ukraine" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - A short ethnic history of Ukraine... ...courtesy of the U.S. Bureau of the Census. - Yasha Levine

    - The Ukrainian Interfax.ua news service  https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/847867.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - listed the main points of the grain export agreement with Turkey and the UN:
    The Parties will not undertake any attacks against merchant vessels and other civilian vessels and port facilities engaged in this initiative.
    Yesterday's Russian hits on military targets in Odessa are thus in conformity with the agreement.

    Even the ever lying New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/07/23/world/ukraine-war-russia" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - had to grudgingly concede that :

    Russia may not have technically violated the deal, since it did not pledge to avoid attacking the parts of the Ukrainian ports that are not directly used for the grain exports, according to a senior U.N. official. If there were military targets nearby, Russia may have been trying to exploit a loophole.

Red and orange is where the missiles hit. No grain silo was harmed.

DJ, Russia did attack Odessa-but not the grain installations...[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2022-113.html[/url] or  https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2022-113.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/the-moa-week-in-review-ot-2022-113.html



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 24 2022 at 10:53pm

DJ,

Is there a link between CoViD and risks for nuclear war ? 

One can claim; NO....timing of the Ukraine War coinciding with the third year of CoViD is "pure coincidence"...."War as distraction from CoViD out of control" being the other option...reality may be somewhere in between...but the "East-West-conflict" in its basics is pre-pandemic...

Zoltan Kovacs

@zoltanspox
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PM Orbán: If Donald Trump had been the U.S. president and Angela Merkel the German chancellor, this war would never have broken out.

DJ...maybe more realistic...but trump may have gone for conflicts with Iran, China ? Merkel did not make the Minsk-agreements work....

US "democrats-cult" claiming h.clinton lost the US elections because of "Putin supporting trump" as a reason for the present US-Russia war in Ukraine I see as a fact...and a very sad one...

The EU -again- totally failed to stop that war...The "sanctions war" against Russia was hopeless from the start...stupid...Russia-China trade was allready major before the UKraine war...Proberbly even without foreign trade Russia may have been able to keep its own economy going...It has its own energy, food, industry...Ignoring that-dealing with Russia as if it was Iraq, Iran or Venezuela was a very major error...

-[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/trainloads-of-additional-russian-armor-arriving-against-ukraine-giant-escalation-coming[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/trainloads-of-additional-russian-armor-arriving-against-ukraine-giant-escalation-coming - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/trainloads-of-additional-russian-armor-arriving-against-ukraine-giant-escalation-coming ;

Videos of Russian trains arriving with additional armored war machines, have been published on various social media the past three days and one thing has become clear: There is a GIANT escalation coming against Ukraine - and maybe NATO.

One such video, below, shows armor, on a train, as far as the eye can see

This new echelon of armor is literally more than DOUBLE what Russia initially sent to Ukraine, before the Special Military Operation began.  If all of it is going into Ukraine, then Russian army strength in Ukraine will increase three-fold!

The Ukrainians can't manage what Russia already has there, never mind three times more.

As things stand right now, July 24, 2022, Ukraine is losing the war very badly despite all sorts of weapons, ammunition, and intel, being supplied by the US/EU/NATO.   A new deployment of this scale by Russia will be a literal steamroller, and it will roll through the rest of Ukraine like a hot knife through butter.

 

US To Assassinate Zelensky?

Rumors are now exploding that the US has decided to assassinate Ukrainian President Zelensky; he's not useful to them anymore.

The rumors began after US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan made a remark at the Aspen Conference this weekend.   That conference is basically a get-together of spooks and intel people.

At the conference, Sullivan remarked "I have concerns about the safety of President Zelensky's life."

When a remark like that, gets made by a guy like Sullivan, it is a signal . . . a projection . . .  of what has been decided.  It tells the intel community that Zelensky's end is nigh.

Speculation surrounding Sullivan's remark is already off the charts.   There is speculation that the US will kill Zelensky, likely while he is meeting with the top Generals of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Taking them all out with a missile strike is a simple task for the US, and it can be BLAMED on Russia!

That . . . .  that right there . . .  is RUMORED to be the new plan.

They kill Zelensky and maybe a couple of his top Generals, which will instantly implode the Ukrainian government and its armed forces.  There would be immediate chaos.   What's left of the Ukrainian armed forces would disintegrate within hours.

Then, the RUMORS say, Sullivan and the Intel Community come out with all sorts of  (ahem) "evidence" allegedly (ahem) "proving" it was Russia that did it.   

The mass-media in the west will dutifully make it the top news for a week or more, to lock-into the public mindset that it was Russia that did it.

This leaves Russia holding the bag of blame, making them a pariah state in the mind of the general public.

The conquest of the complete rest of Ukraine will be a simple task for Russia at that point but here's the rub:

What Russia will "conquer" will be a rump welfare state.  A failed land area, incapable of supporting itself.

The whole thing will have to be reconstructed and that will be a gigantic financial burden upon Russia, not to mention the saboteurs, terrorists,  and troublemakers that the west will undoubtedly utilize to make things all that much harder for Russia.

The "war" will be over.   Russia will have won.   But the victory will be made as sour as possible by the West.

 

 Hal Turner Analysis and Editorial Opinion

In my personal assessment of the situation, everyone has about 8 days until things go very HOT!

July 31st -Aug 1st is the transition point into the next phase. In fact, I am on record as saying I believe between July 28 and August 5, there __could be__ a nuclear exchange - not a full blown nuclear holocaust -- between Russia and the US/NATO.

Right now, I assess that the Special Military Operation "Z" will intensify to levels of ferocity and speed yet unseen.

I personally perceive that the Deep State (NATO) forces will begin operations overtly and also with increased violence. It is my personal belief the US will cross "the line" via the proxy, Ukraine, and that action could start at any time now.

From August 1st to the end of this year the world will experience turmoil, disruption and violence that has not been seen since WWII.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Ukraine will never win this war.

There will never be peace. Russia will never be able to trust any so called security guarantees that NATO/US may come up with. Too many red lines crossed, too many broken promises.

Russia does not want to be an occupying force in Ukraine, but Ukraine, if it continues to exist AT ALL,  cannot be left to it's own devices. Ukraine will end up being a buffer as a military no-man's land between Russia and an encroaching NATO.  An uneasy truce if anything.

DJ, I do take Hal Turner often with a grain of salt...however his ideas of Ukraine-war escalating so far has "links with reality"...My view is the Ukraine army is near collapse...Logistics a very major problem...most military no longer motivated for this war they did NOT want....

This Ukraine-war is the outcome most of US -biden- "foreign policy"...(Alexander Mercouris believes the UK playing a major role...but the UK can not send the weapons, intel and money Ukraine needs to fight this war. ) Most Ukranians voted for zelensky in the hope he would bring peace...[url]http://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-zelensky-is-about-to-be-assassinated-by-the-americans/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-zelensky-is-about-to-be-assassinated-by-the-americans/ - http://thesaker.is/gonzalo-lira-zelensky-is-about-to-be-assassinated-by-the-americans/ ...

In the Ukraine war itself Russia has formed an Ukraine Army most likely to take over those parts of Ukraine Russia is not planning to include into Russia [url]http://thesaker.is/news-about-the-newly-formed-and-trained-odessa-brigade/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/news-about-the-newly-formed-and-trained-odessa-brigade/ - http://thesaker.is/news-about-the-newly-formed-and-trained-odessa-brigade/ Military Summary was talking of this Russian-Ukraine Army now being trained in using Iran drones...

[url]http://thesaker.is/for-those-about-to-rock-nam-2-0-salutes-you/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/for-those-about-to-rock-nam-2-0-salutes-you/ - http://thesaker.is/for-those-about-to-rock-nam-2-0-salutes-you/ Pepe Escobar (and many others) see a "multi polar world" on the horizon...with a new global currency based on many countries their currencies NOT to be used as an economic weapon...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-and-china-officially-announce-new-global-reserve-currency[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-and-china-officially-announce-new-global-reserve-currency - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russia-and-china-officially-announce-new-global-reserve-currency  

DJ; I do not doubt "Asia" will become the global dominant factor...However "Asia" may be even more divided then the EU...India has "major problems" with China...however is willing to do (lots of) bussinesses with both Russia and Iran...I think India may have lost trust in "the west" just as Türkiye did...

A "global NATO" by most non-western countries is seen as neo-clonial...NOT in their interest...

For the west;

-The EU may survive in some form...will go for lots of trade with Asia..

-Also Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand "have to face the facts" ; conflict or trade with "Asia"...

-The US may move towards more isolationism...maybe trying to keep "good relations" in "the region"...Canada may be "in between" the EU and US...Does the US "need the world" to survive ? NO...I think just like Russia the US may be strong enough to stand on its own feet...

For both the US and UK "Unity" may become a major problem...Scotland, Ireland may join the EU...In the US less "federal rules" more on state level rules may weaken the US...

Chances of a nuclear war;

There was the idea Russia would "hate" to take over a bankrupt and destroyed Ukraine...But Russia will be getting help from lots of other countries in rebuilding Ukraine (maybe even the EU...). 

Like in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria "the west" did not win the war...IF the west would go for further escalation tactical-battlefield- nukes could destroy major Russian armies...

The present western political elite simply refuses to admit they did -again- lose yet another war...DJ-I think IF Russia "wins" this war "it is over for the US global dominance" but also both the US$ and Euro€ may "shrink" to <10% of their 2021 value...

Russia's goal is not only to limit Ukraine...it is also to limit NATO...

NATO has used most of its non-nuclear weapons as far as possible within a proxy war...NATO openly moving in -Polish, Romanian, Lithuanian forces- with major NATO airsupport could be a further western escalation wich may force Russia to "go nuclear"...

-Other frontlines;

Middle East...it must be frustrating for Israel to see Saudi-Iran talks...Iran part of TIP (Türkiye-Iran-Pakistan cooperation) and becoming a strategic partner for Russia-India trade (via the Caspian Sea). Russia and China see Iran as a "strategic partner" they are willing to defend...

Israel is "very limited" in its actions against Iran...even with US/NATO help...

Taiwan is another growing problem...The US maybe "could find some support" in both India and Pakistan against China...Japan fears Russian-China military cooperation...

I think there is still "some room"for US/UK/EU "diplomacy" to get countries like Vietnam, Phillipines, Indonesia "distance themselves" from China...However a bankrupt "west" may not be very interesting for upcoming Asian economies...If all the "west" can offer is more war "we better stay at home"....

-Germany would "rearm itself"...however major economic problems, other European countries not happy with a strong Germany may stop/limit that proces...Both economic and political limits...

-Japan going for rearmament -with an aging population- may push the Korea's even further away from Japan...China, Korea share a deep hatred against Japan...Since "history repeats itself" Japan may face growing risks for nuclear war if it goes for rearmament...I think not a single Asian country is welcoming a military strong Japan....it would be yet another US foreign policy mistake...

DJ will we have nuclear war within six months, in 2022 ? Chances <50%...but maybe >10%...US, UK, Russia, China, Israel, North Korea, India, Pakistan all face major "issues"...(France most likely may go for EU leadership as long as Germany fails to do so...The "strength" of the EU may be in "having many faces"...If the US is an Eagle, Russia a Bear, China a Dragon then the EU may be a Snake...). 

Just making my mind up...



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 30 2022 at 3:17am

DJ, Three major conflict areas;

-1. Ukraine

-2. Taiwan

-3. Syria

-1. Ukraine western embedded media still claiming "Ukraine" can beat or at least limit Russia...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Border_of_Ukraine[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Border_of_Ukraine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Border_of_Ukraine  

DJ So far Ukraine did get for billions worth of western (and old Soviet ers) weapons. NATO (most US/UK)  military advisors/instructors may play a "leading role" in the war. Most likely NATO special forces may be involved in "actions" both in Ukraine as in Russian controlled areas in and outside Ukraine...

There have been reports of attacks/sabotage of railwaylines, oildepots just over the border inside Russia. Some special forces were trained for that kind of operations...Also western weapons may have been used against targets in the Black Sea and inside Russia. 

Ukraine is claiming it will start a major offensive in August. Poland-outside NATO getting involved- may offer support. Ukraine wounded military are already getting care in west European hospitals. 

My impression is Russia is still able to kill and wound very high numbers of Ukraine military. A further escalation could be missile strikes at "command centers" even when it would kill (more) western military...

Polish police is already doing a police-job in north-western Ukraine. A question is wether Russia would accept Poland (and others Hungary, Romania...Moldova ?) (re)claiming parts of western Ukraine. It still would mean NATO moving east...It could end up in Ukraine also fighting NATO forces....(After world war 1 and during/post world war 2 Ukraine nationalists killed Polish, Russian and Jewish citizens by the tens-of-thousends...). But for Russia it could bring an end to this war with Russia putting new rules...most likely resulting in no or a very small Ukraine... (A bit like Austria after World War 1).

I think by now for Europe energy needs may push for an end of anti-Russian sanctions...Lots of European companies want a share of the Asian market...

-2. Taiwan 

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/provoking-beijing.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/provoking-beijing.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/provoking-beijing.html and [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pelosi-leading-delegation-asia-taiwan-stop-not-clear[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pelosi-leading-delegation-asia-taiwan-stop-not-clear - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pelosi-leading-delegation-asia-taiwan-stop-not-clear ...

One could claim pelosi her East Asia-trip has a north part; Japan and South Korea and a southern part Malaysia and Singapore. Taiwan is in the middle of those "parts"...maybe pelosi could try to go for a short stop on Taiwan...meet some Taiwan-Chinese people...But she could meet them also in one of the four countries she is planning to visit. 

China-PRC does see pelosi...82...as the #3 in US power/government (after biden and VP harris...). Maybe there could be "some room" if pelosi first visited the Peoples Republic of China PRC before visiting the "Republic of China"/Taiwan...If she would visit Taiwan as a private person it also could be seen differently...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_aircraft_carrier_programme#Current_status[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_aircraft_carrier_programme#Current_status - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_aircraft_carrier_programme#Current_status China-PRC has three aircraft carriers...Taiwan is not that far from the PRC-China...Bejing could go for a "no-fly-zone" over Taiwan...leaving some room for "normal" civilian airtraffic....

Most likely Taiwan will hate it but not shoot at Chinese planes and ships...A sea-blockade could be a possible next step...

Point is Taiwan does see itself as part of China...(Ukraine does not think of it as being part of Russia. Russia may go for "border changes" accepting possibly a smaller Ukraine...). 

Most countries-US included-claim to follow a "One China" policy accepting Bejing -at the end- has a claim on Taiwan...

[url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1271601.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1271601.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1271601.shtml ;A parliamentary delegation led by former Japanese defense ministers arrived in China's Taiwan island on Wednesday to discuss "security concerns" across the Taiwan Straits. The move is seen by experts as a pretext to hype conflict, with the true intention of expanding Japan's military power.

DJ Both Korea and China hate Japan...Russia has border conflicts with Japan...On Taiwan-in the conflict with the US-Russia is on the side of China. 

North Korea may be a "complex factor"...My impression is that China may go for diplomacy-but does not mind North Korea going for all kinds of testing...

USS Ronald Reagan and other US ships moving towards Taiwan...(with the UK-bojo still in power-able of stupid things...)...It could be confronted with Russian-China Navy drills...

A look at the map is showing Japan islands south of Japan north and east of Taiwan...Taiwan/China claims some of those islands...

If "Pearl Harbor" would be repeated it may be in an attack on Okinawa...by Chinese and Russian forces...One only can hope we will not see such an escalation...I expect pelosi may "limit her plans on Taiwan"...meet Taiwanese outside Taiwan...

-3. Syria

[url]https://www.debka.com/ehud-barak-its-too-late-for-a-surgical-attack-to-block-iran-becoming-a-nuclear-power/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/ehud-barak-its-too-late-for-a-surgical-attack-to-block-iran-becoming-a-nuclear-power/ - https://www.debka.com/ehud-barak-its-too-late-for-a-surgical-attack-to-block-iran-becoming-a-nuclear-power/ ...Israel still trying to limit Iran presence in Syria...By attacking a.o. the Damascus civilian airport Israel-Russian relations in this conflict are going bad...

Türkiye is trying to increase influence...limiting the Kurds in both Eastern Syria and western Iraq...Iran and Russia trying to get the Kurds to join the Syrian and Iraq armies...maybe as Kurdish divisions inside those armies...

Problem in Syria is most of the Kurds there come from Türkiye...The Kurds used to be a very small group living close to the Turkish border...Türkiye and Iran may share the same ideas on the Kurds...

For Israel Saudi Arabia may have opened its airspace for civilian flights...in other ways Saudi Arabia is moving towards Russia and China...in talks with Iran. 

US troops both in Syria and Iraq -not welcomed by those countries- are slowly getting into an impossible situation...Jordan may offer some supplies...but if Saudi Arabia stops military logistics US forces in Iraq and Syria end up isolated...

 



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 30 2022 at 8:48am

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-armor-headed-to-fujian-across-from-taiwan-navy-starts-live-fire-drills-in-taiwan-strait[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-armor-headed-to-fujian-across-from-taiwan-navy-starts-live-fire-drills-in-taiwan-strait - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-armor-headed-to-fujian-across-from-taiwan-navy-starts-live-fire-drills-in-taiwan-strait ;

UPDATE 10:56 AM EDT --

China has just CLOSED the Taiwan Strait:

PLA Helicopters in Fujian Province take-off for "exercises.:"

and 

UPDATE 11:10 AM EDT --

Taiwan is now deploying Air Defense Missiles, including at Taoyuan International Civil Airport!!!!!

DJ Again the US is pushing for war....



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 30 2022 at 11:40am

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-13[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-13 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-13 pe;osi on her way from Hawaii to Taiwan....#252;


DJ, [url]https://defconwarningsystem.com/[/url] or https://defconwarningsystem.com/ - https://defconwarningsystem.com/ has a time-bar...Here in NL it is 20.23 Central European Time...New York/DC =14.23 ...Moscow 21.23...North Korea it is 3.23 sunday august 31...

pelosi went in a military plane from Andrews AFB to Hawaii-may be in a hotel now...If I get it right she first could go to Malaysia & Singapore...middle of next week she may go to Japan, South Korea with a possible stop (normal civilian flight ?) on/in Taiwan ? 

[url]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/07/30/national/politics-diplomacy/japan-us-economic-dialogue/[/url] or https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/07/30/national/politics-diplomacy/japan-us-economic-dialogue/ - https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/07/30/national/politics-diplomacy/japan-us-economic-dialogue/  

and [url]https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220730000351325?section=national/defense[/url] or https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220730000351325?section=national/defense - https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220730000351325?section=national/defense ;

DJ...no doubt both Japan and South Korea are increasing tensions in the East Asia region...

[url]https://www.wionews.com/world/ahead-of-pelosis-visit-to-taiwan-china-to-begin-military-drills-in-taiwan-strait-501913[/url] or https://www.wionews.com/world/ahead-of-pelosis-visit-to-taiwan-china-to-begin-military-drills-in-taiwan-strait-501913 - https://www.wionews.com/world/ahead-of-pelosis-visit-to-taiwan-china-to-begin-military-drills-in-taiwan-strait-501913  

From [url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-12[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-12 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-12 reaction 233; US set to pass the Taiwan Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act NOW!
Representatives Michelle Steel (R-California) and Jimmy Panetta (D-California) in the House, and Senator Marsha Blackburn (R-Tennessee) in the Senate, the ‘Taiwan Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act’ would authorize the president to lend or lease weapons and military equipment to Taiwan, which Taipei would pay for over a 12-year period.

The bill’s name and wording closely follow that of the ‘Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act’, which was signed into law by President Joe Biden in May after passing Congress with almost no resistance.

“Taiwan is our greatest partner in the Indo-Pacific region, and their continued sovereignty is essential to challenging the New Axis of Evil,” said Blackburn, referencing an often-maligned term used by former President George W. Bush to group America’s foreign enemies together.

DJ...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-holds-live-fire-drills-taiwan-us-carrier-group-nearby-pelosis-plane-en-route[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-holds-live-fire-drills-taiwan-us-carrier-group-nearby-pelosis-plane-en-route - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-holds-live-fire-drills-taiwan-us-carrier-group-nearby-pelosis-plane-en-route  

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/how-china-warns-of-pelosis-taiwan-trip.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/how-china-warns-of-pelosis-taiwan-trip.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/how-china-warns-of-pelosis-taiwan-trip.html ;

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1271745.shtml" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - Don’t say we didn’t warn you – Symposium of China’s top think tank sends classic, pre-war warning to provocative Pelosi

"Don't say we didn't warn you!" - a phrase that was used by the People's Daily in 1962 before China was forced to fight the border war with India and ahead of the 1979 China-Vietnam War, was frequently mentioned during a forum held Friday by a high-level Chinese think tank, as analysts warned that open military options and comprehensive countermeasures ranging from the economy to diplomacy from China await if US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi gambles with a visit to the Taiwan island during her Asia tour.
...

As far as I know the top gear phrase meaning 'last warning' has not yet been used by official government sources. But the top think tanks in China are all official, not corrupt private clubs like most U.S. think tanks are. The Global Times is the CPC's major English language outlet and it posted the phrase at the top of its homepage. Does that not in itself make it somewhat official?

The spokesperson of the Chinese military has said there would definitely be military responses to a trip. But that could be some maneuvers or fly-bys, not a war.

Pelosi is traveling in Asia on a U.S. military plane. That plane is unlikely to fly to Taiwan which is in Beijing's understanding part of China's air space. Pelosi will most likely use a civilian plane, maybe even a regular scheduled on, to fly from Singapore to Taiwan. Most likely in the middle of next week.

If the Chinese learn which flight she is on they can use a number of counter measures and/or divert the flight.

If she turns up in Taipei without intervention the Chinese government will lose some face and will have to think of other measures it can enact. Some missiles flying towards Taiwan to then drop into the sea might be a possibility. The Global Times piece above mentions others.

The visit is not necessary and risks creating a conflict that could be greatly damaging to the U.S., China and the global economy.

It is a stupid thing to do.

DJ Bejing can no longer accept pelosi visiting Taiwan...unless it would be willing to "loose face"...[url]https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-07-30/Xi-calls-for-uniting-Chinese-home-abroad-for-national-rejuvenation--1c5JZ93HVja/index.html[/url] or https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-07-30/Xi-calls-for-uniting-Chinese-home-abroad-for-national-rejuvenation--1c5JZ93HVja/index.html - https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-07-30/Xi-calls-for-uniting-Chinese-home-abroad-for-national-rejuvenation--1c5JZ93HVja/index.html ;

President Xi Jinping has stressed promoting the unity and hard work of Chinese people at home and abroad to pool strength for the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation. 

DJ As far as I can see a "no-fly zone" over Taiwan could be "an optimistic" scenario...

[url]http://www.kcna.kp/en[/url] or http://www.kcna.kp/en - http://www.kcna.kp/en North Korea most likely "very unhappy with events"....

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nuclear-war-threat-higher-cold-war-uk-national-security-advisor[/url] or  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nuclear-war-threat-higher-cold-war-uk-national-security-advisor - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nuclear-war-threat-higher-cold-war-uk-national-security-advisor ...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 31 2022 at 12:00am

DJ, 

This Taiwan-crisis has to be seen on a global scale. The US was the economic and military #1, China wants to take that place. 

The US has NATO, Japan, South Korea, Australia/New Zealand as allies. China has Russia, Iran, no doubt Venezuela, Cuba. Nicaragua on its side. Lots of countries rather stay out of this conflict or have their own issues...

-India has very old and close relations with Russia (and the Soviet Union). But India-China relations are bad...However India (soon #1 in population-replacing China) does see the importance of the booming Asian economic market...is member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization...(SCO). 

-Iran, Pakistan also members of the SCO. Türkiye -still a NATO-member (2nd largest NATO army...) could join the SCO. "TIP" Türkiye-Iran-Pakistan, like India, put national interests first...TIP has been working on improving infrastructure, from (rail)roads to pipelines and electricity...

-India-Pakistan relations are "not good". In Pakistan [url]https://mobile.twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI[/url] or https://mobile.twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI - https://mobile.twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI the US via corruption was replaced. But the China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor has become a major driver for Pakistan-and TIP-development...China did get access to the Indian Ocean via Pakistan. China trade with Europe, Africa, West Asia goes via Pakistan/TIP. 

-Iran claims it does not want to build nuclear weapons-but why it is upgrading uranium then ? In West-Asia the Israel-Iran conflict is seeing most of the "fighting" in Syria. Israel attacking Iran targets...Israel did support-with the US, Gulf States IS. Also Israel-and the US-did support the Kurds...wich resulted in more or less conflicts with Türkiye...once an ally of Israel. 

-Türkiye-Erdogan-is "frustrated" the EU closed it doors for Türkiye...DJ-I think for very wrong reasons...Islam...a major EU error ! Erdogan/the AK Party for that reason looked for other partners...both Iran and Russia were interesting. Türkiye also want(ed) to replace Saudi Arabia as "center of Islam"...US support for the Kurds was yet another blow for Türkiyes trust in the west...

-Some claim the EU has not its own foreign policy...some member states may still have national interests. In the Ukraine-war the EU is following US blindly...but EU interests and US interests are not the same. The EU may move towards political crises even faster then the US...

-WAR

-In Ukraine Russia keeps destroying Ukraine forces...taking land comes after destruction of the Ukraine Army...Expectations are in august-coming month-Russia will be able to take over most of Eastern Ukraine. NATO is providing weapons and intel to Ukraine...Poland may be willing to move even further...

Logistics, supplies, transport is a very major problem for Ukraine...western support is not enough for Ukraine to continue this war...Russia went for "industrial mobilization" and may be preparing for a major offensive. At the same time Russia is preparing military for a conflict in East Asia...a two-front war...

-Containment once was excused as "stopping communism"...now it is the west/US strategy to stop China economicly. From Finland, Sweden supposed to join NATO, Ukraine, Syria, Kashmir to the South China Sea, Taiwan, Kuril Islands China-and Russia- is surrounded by conflicts...Russia-Iran-China "need to break US dominance"...

-DJ I do NOT expect China (PRC) to invade Taiwan. China and Russia may be able to control the air and sea around Taiwan...make demands. A military step could be taking some islands around Taiwan...

Further escalation may be the US/UK others trying to break that blockade... Taiwan going for counterattacks on islands...

Some of the islands near Taiwan are under Japan rule-but claimed by Taiwan/China...It is quite unlikely Japan can stay out of "a fight" but it may try to limit the conflict...

The US selling more weapons to Japan, Taiwan and South Korea could "push" North Korea to "a harder stand"...

A next step may be naval battles between the Russian-China navies and the "western ones"...There may be some aircraft carriers involved but I think the importance of carriers is limited...both China and Russia can sink US carriers with (hypersonic) missiles...If need be in the early stages of the conflict...Trying to send another warning...

In such an escalation-scenario Iran may limit oil-supplies to "the west" (including Japan etc.). 

The darkest scenario's would see war in (Eastern) Europe, Middle East, with very likely also conflict in the America's...

-Nuclear weapons;

Tactical-battlefield, Strategic-long distance...One could claim the US nuclear attacks on Japan were both tactical-force a Japan surrender august 1945 and strategic...send a warning to the Soviet Union/stalin...

IF NATO forces would join Ukraine-attack (pro) Russian forces tactical use of nuclear weapons-destroying armies-may result in the use of strategic nuclear weapons..destroying cities, (air)ports...

Russia and China are further in hyper sonic missiles (speed 6.000 to 20.000 km/h0 and also may have better air/civil defence...Still the nuclear scenario will be Mutual Assured Destruction...MAD !

A major difference with "the last world war" is now most targets can be hit...it is a choice if you want to go for that target...and can deal with the consequences. Blowing up a US Navy ship has other consequences then blowing up a NL Navy ship...Still there will be a reaction...

In the global war of 1939-45 "killing carriers" did win the battle...

What not did change however is the logistics part...getting supplies to where they are needed-or stopping that...Only the means to stop "lines of communication" has changed. 

Internet & information are already part of "a global war"...Maybe there are THREE parties; pro "west", pro"East" and "neutral"...DJ NL has a long history of trying to stay out of a conflict-putting national interests first. Lots of countries want to "limit damage" and see an end to war as soon as possible...

The fight for global power between Cina/Asia and the US/west NOT resulting in military conflict however may be limited...If "the west" can stop China from becoming #1...what about India becoming #1 ? Or a reformed EU no longer following US orders?

Diplomacy should provide a way out...but diplomacy only can work on "trust and verify" ...the trust is gone...at least for now... 





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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 31 2022 at 2:33am

DJ- The Ukraine and Taiwan crisis should be seen-in my opinion-also in a longer term historic perspective. 

[url]http://thesaker.is/today-asia-feels-it-can-regain-its-civilizational-weight-lost-for-500-years-lebanese-academic/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/today-asia-feels-it-can-regain-its-civilizational-weight-lost-for-500-years-lebanese-academic/ - http://thesaker.is/today-asia-feels-it-can-regain-its-civilizational-weight-lost-for-500-years-lebanese-academic/ ;

All Asian powers in general feel that the world is going through a very important period of development, and the international system is going through a moment of transformation. This transformation is occurring in favor of the Asian powers in general, i.e., China first and foremost, and the main Asian states such as Russia, India, Iran and Turkey. These forces feel that they are witnessing a historical turning point in which they are regaining their civilizational weight and influence on the world which had been lost during the past 500 years.

These (Asian) states are still witnessing disparities, rivalries, and disagreements among them, the frameworks of cooperation between them are still developing and have not yet been crystalized, and part of these main (Asian) forces still have partnerships with the West and we know that. However, all of these states share a feeling that this world is becoming more pluralistic and balanced, and that they are facing a very great historical moment that they can seize to take away from the West a part of its domination and hegemony over them, whose (consequences) were at expense of them and their people.

Therefore, these forces are creating this form of partnership to try to seize this historical moment. This economic, demographic and political transition from West to East is considered by these states a historical opportunity that must be grasped. All of that was evident in the recent war with Ukraine. (For example,) India, despite its close relations with the United States, did not go into conflict with Russia as requested (by the US). Turkey kept its options open, even on the Ukrainian issue. Why? Because these states, as I told you, see that the Asian powers, that Asia, is back at the heart of the international system.

The marginalization of Asia was at the expense of the powers (in this continent) and its people. Therefore, this course is not new, and (its players) have taken advantage of the crisis of the West, the decline of American hegemony, and the rise of Asian powers; and this is still ongoing. As for speed of this path, its transformations may occur faster or may slow down depending on certain events. For example, we are waiting for the results of the war in Ukraine. We are waiting for the prospect of the US-Chinese confrontation, which I believe is the most important event from now until the year 2050. The next 20 or 30 years will determine the fate of the world through a confrontation that will escalate quickly between America and China. This competition and conflict and its consequences will shape the world for decades and centuries to come.

DJ, Wars as aspects of a historic process...a shift from "West" to "East" , last phase of de-colonization...

[url]https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ - https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ Asia has a population of 4,6 billion...out of a global population of 7,9 billion...Africa population 1,3 billion...Europe 750 million, Latin America in these statistics go for just over 650 million...

North America 370 million, Oceania 42 million...are the last two regions in population. For that matter India  1,4 billion and China 1,45 billion going for a more fair share in this world only makes sense...Population-wise the US 335 million already is #3...[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/eu-population-declines-second-straight-year[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/eu-population-declines-second-straight-year - https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/eu-population-declines-second-straight-year and only because the EU-close to 450 million people-is not seen as one country...

On "Taiwan" [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formosa_(disambiguation)[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formosa_(disambiguation) ;

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Formosa[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Formosa - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Formosa ; 

Spanish Formosa ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Spanish language - Spanish : Hermosa Española) was a small colony of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Empire" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Spanish Empire - Spanish Empire established in the northern tip of the island known to Europeans at the time as  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formosa" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Formosa - Formosa (now Taiwan) from 1626 to 1642. It was ceded to the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Dutch Republic - Dutch Republic during the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years%27_War" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Eighty Years' War - Eighty Years' War .

The  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Portugal - Portuguese were the first Europeans to reach the island off the southern coast of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="China - China in 1544, and named it Formosa (Portuguese for "beautiful") due to the beautiful landscape as seen from the sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Formosa#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1]

Northern Taiwan became a Spanish colony in 1626 and part of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Manila - Manila -based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_East_Indies" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Spanish East Indies - Spanish East Indies . As a Spanish colony, it was meant to protect the regional trade with the Philippines from interference by the Dutch base in the south of the island. The colony was short-lived due to the loss of its strategic importance and unwillingness by Spanish authorities in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Manila - Manila to commit more resources to its defence. After seventeen years, the last fortress of the Spanish was besieged by Dutch forces and eventually fell, giving the Dutch control over much of the island.

Spanish missionaries Christianized about 5,000 Taiwanese during the time of the Spanish governorate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Formosa#cite_note-2" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [2]

was followed by [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa ;

The  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_Taiwan" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Island of Taiwan - island of Taiwan , also commonly known as Formosa, was partly under  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_rule" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Colonial rule - colonial rule by the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Dutch Republic - Dutch Republic from 1624 to 1662 and from 1664 to 1668. In the context of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Discovery" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Age of Discovery - Age of Discovery , the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Dutch East India Company - Dutch East India Company established its presence on Formosa to trade with the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_Empire" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Ming Empire - Ming Empire in neighbouring China and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokugawa_shogunate" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Tokugawa shogunate - Tokugawa shogunate in Japan, and also to interdict  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Empire" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Portuguese Empire - Portuguese and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Empire" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Spanish Empire - Spanish trade and colonial activities in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="East Asia - East Asia .

The Dutch were not universally welcomed, and uprisings by both aborigines and recent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Han people - Han arrivals were quelled by the Dutch military on more than one occasion. With the rise of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynasty" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Qing dynasty - Qing dynasty in the early 17th century, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Dutch East India Company - Dutch East India Company cut ties with the Ming dynasty and allied with the Qing instead, in exchange for the right to unfettered access to their https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_route" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Trade route - trade and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shipping_route" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Shipping route - shipping routes . The colonial period was brought to an end after the 1662 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Zeelandia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Siege of Fort Zeelandia - Siege of Fort Zeelandia by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koxinga" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Koxinga - Koxinga 's army who promptly dismantled the Dutch colony, expelled the Dutch and established the Ming loyalist, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Qing_sentiment" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Anti-Qing sentiment - anti-Qing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Tungning" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Kingdom of Tungning - Kingdom of Tungning .

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As late comers in sailing the seas of the world, the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Netherlands - Netherlands and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_England" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Kingdom of England - England came, at the beginning of the 17th century, inevitably in conflict with the forces of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Spain - Spain and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Portugal" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Kingdom of Portugal - Portugal . In ideological terms, the conflict was expressed in the Iberian powers being Catholic, while during the commercial development of England and the Netherlands, both had separated their religious institutions from Papal Rome.

The Dutch first attempted to trade with China in 1601 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-FOOTNOTETs'ao200628-1" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [1] but were rebuffed by the Chinese authorities, who were already engaged in trade with the Portuguese at  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Macau" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Portuguese Macau - Macau from 1535.

In a 1604 expedition from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia,_Dutch_East_Indies" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Batavia, Dutch East Indies - Batavia (the central base of the Dutch in Asia), Admiral Wybrand van Warwijk set out to attack Macau, but his force was waylaid by a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Typhoon - typhoon , driving them to the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescadores" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Pescadores - Pescadores ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penghu" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Penghu - Penghu ), a group of islands 30 miles (50 km) west of Formosa (Taiwan). Once there, the admiral attempted to negotiate trade terms with the Chinese on the mainland, but was asked to pay an exorbitant fee for the privilege of an interview. Surrounded by a vastly superior Chinese fleet, he left without achieving any of his aims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-FOOTNOTEDavidson190310-2" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-3" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [3]

The Dutch East India Company tried to use military force to make China open up a port in Fujian to trade and demanded that China expel the Portuguese, whom the Dutch were fighting in the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch%E2%80%93Portuguese_War" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Dutch–Portuguese War - Dutch–Portuguese War , from Macau. The Dutch raided Chinese shipping after 1618 and took junks hostage in an unsuccessful attempt to get China to meet their demands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-FOOTNOTECooper1979658-4" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-FOOTNOTEFreeman2003132-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-FOOTNOTEThomson199639-6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [6]

In 1622, after another unsuccessful  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Macau" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Battle of Macau - Dutch attack on Macau ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_post" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Trade post - trade post of  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Portugal - Portugal from 1557) and the failure to set up a trading post in Fat Tong O (present day  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Hong Kong - Hong Kong ), the fleet sailed to the Pescadores, this time intentionally, and proceeded to set up a base there at  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makung" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Makung - Makung . They built a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fengguiwei_Fort" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Fengguiwei Fort - fort with  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Forced labour - forced labour recruited from the local Chinese population. Their oversight was reportedly so severe and rations so short that 1,300 of the 1,500 Chinese enslaved died in the process of construction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-FOOTNOTEDavidson190311-7" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [7] The same year a ship named the Golden Lion (Dutch: Gouden Leeuw) was wrecked at  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hsiao_Liuchiu" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Hsiao Liuchiu - Lamey just off the southwest coast of Formosa; the survivors were slaughtered by the native inhabitants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Formosa#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBluss%C3%A92000144-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [8] The following year, 1623, Dutch traders in search of an Asian base first arrived on the island, intending to use the island as a station for Dutch commerce with Japan and the coastal areas of China.

After the Dutch [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan#Kingdom_of_Tungning[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan#Kingdom_of_Tungning - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan#Kingdom_of_Tungning ; On the mainland,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_people" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Manchu people - Manchu  forces broke through  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanhai_Pass" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Shanhai Pass - Shanhai Pass  in 1644 and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_conquest" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Manchu conquest - rapidly overwhelmed  the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_dynasty" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Ming dynasty - Ming dynasty . In 1661, a naval fleet led by the Ming loyalist  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koxinga" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Koxinga - Koxinga  arrived in Taiwan to oust the Dutch from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Zeelandia_(Taiwan)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Fort Zeelandia (Taiwan) - Zeelandia  and establish a pro-Ming base in Taiwan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan#cite_note-FOOTNOTESpence199946%E2%80%9349-45" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [45]  Koxinga was born to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_Zhilong" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Zheng Zhilong - Zheng Zhilong , a Chinese merchant and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Pirate - pirate , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagawa_Matsu" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Tagawa Matsu - Tagawa Matsu , a Japanese woman, in 1624 in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirado,_Nagasaki" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Hirado, Nagasaki - Hirado https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasaki_Prefecture" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Nagasaki Prefecture - Nagasaki Prefecture , Japan. He was raised there until seven and moved to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanzhou" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Quanzhou - Quanzhou , in the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujian" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Fujian - Fujian  province of China. In a family made wealthy from shipping and piracy, Koxinga inherited his father's trade networks, which stretched from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagasaki,_Nagasaki" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Nagasaki, Nagasaki - Nagasaki  to Macao. Following the Manchu advance on Fujian, Koxinga retreated from his stronghold in Amoy ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiamen" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Xiamen - Xiamen  city) and besieged  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_(island)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Taiwan (island) - Taiwan  in the hope of establishing a strategic base to marshal his troops to retake his base at Amoy. In 1662, following a nine-month siege, Koxinga captured the Dutch fortress  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Zeelandia_(Taiwan)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Fort Zeelandia (Taiwan) - Zeelandia  and Taiwan became his base (see  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Tungning" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Kingdom of Tungning - Kingdom of Tungning )

wich lasted till 1895 (to keep it short...) [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Formosa[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Formosa - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Formosa ; 

In 1894, China and Japan  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Sino-Japanese_War" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="First Sino-Japanese War - went to war . In a few months, the Japanese defeated China's  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beiyang_fleet" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Beiyang fleet - Beiyang fleet , routed the Chinese armies in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchuria" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Manchuria - Manchuria , and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(China)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Port Arthur massacre (China) - captured Port Arthur and Weihaiwei. Although nearly all the fighting took place in northern China, Japan had important territorial ambitions in southern China. As the war approached its end, the Japanese took steps to ensure that Taiwan would be ceded to Japan under the eventual peace treaty and that they were well placed militarily to occupy the island. In March 1895 peace negotiations between Japan and China opened in the Japanese city of Shimonoseki. Although hostilities in northern China were suspended during these negotiations, Taiwan and  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penghu" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Penghu - the Pescadores were specifically excluded from the scope of the armistice. This exclusion allowed the Japanese to mount a military operation against the Pescadores Islands in March 1895 without imperilling the negotiations. The Pescadores, lying midway between  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_China" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Mainland China - mainland China and Taiwan, were the key to a successful occupation of Taiwan. In a swift campaign in the last week of March the Japanese  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescadores_Campaign_(1895)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Pescadores Campaign (1895) - captured the islands , preventing further Chinese reinforcements from being sent across the Taiwan Strait to Taiwan. This brisk fait accompli influenced the peace negotiations, and the ensuing  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Shimonoseki" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Treaty of Shimonoseki - Treaty of Shimonoseki , concluded on 17 April 1895, duly provided for the cession by China of Taiwan to Japan. On 10 May, Admiral  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabayama_Sukenori" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Kabayama Sukenori - Kabayama Sukenori was appointed the first Japanese governor-general of Taiwan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Formosa#cite_note-Takekoshi,_82%E2%80%934-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [5]

Proclamation of the Republic[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republic_of_Formosa&action=edit§ion=3" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; white-space: nowrap;" title="Edit section: Proclamation of the Republic - edit ]

When the news of the treaty's contents reached Taiwan, a number of notables from central Taiwan led by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiu_Fengjia" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Qiu Fengjia - Qiu Fengjia decided to resist the transfer of Taiwan to Japanese rule. On 23 May, in Taipei, these men declared independence, proclaiming the establishment of a free and democratic Republic of Formosa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_Jingsong" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Tang Jingsong - Tang Jingsong , the Qing governor-general of Taiwan, was prevailed upon to become the republic's first President, and his old friend https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liu_Yongfu" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Liu Yongfu - Liu Yongfu , the retired https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Flag_Army" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Black Flag Army - Black Flag Army commander who had become a national hero in China for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bang_Bo_(Zhennan_Pass)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Battle of Bang Bo (Zhennan Pass) - his victories against the French in northern Vietnam a decade earlier, was invited to serve as Grand General of the Army. Chiu was appointed Grand Commander of Militia, with the power to raise local militia units throughout the island to resist the Japanese. On the Chinese mainland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Zhidong" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Zhang Zhidong - Zhang Zhidong , the powerful governor-general of Liangkiang, tacitly supported the Formosan resistance movement, and the Republicans also appointed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Jitong" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Chen Jitong - Chen Jitong , a disgraced Chinese diplomat who understood European ways of thinking, as the Republic's foreign minister. His job would be to sell the Republic abroad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Formosa#cite_note-Takekoshi,_82%E2%80%934-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [5]

Maybe [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ezo[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ezo - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ezo of 1869 could be seen as related...A Japan power struggle...

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule Formosa/Taiwan was under Japanese rule from 1895 till 1945...Japan a major colonizer in Northern China, Korea...

The China civil war ended in 1949 with the Chinese Communist Party/Mao in control of "mainland" China and (western backed) "nationalists" ruling Taiwan...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-iOq14Wl0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-iOq14Wl0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-iOq14Wl0 Alexander Mercouris -and many others- finding it hard to understand the US choice for creating yet another conflict..."The One-China policy" started under Nixon...Peking/Bejing represented China...most countries would "limit" contacts and trade with Taiwan...seen as part of China (also by Taiwan itself...). 

DJ-Again...if the US would be able to "slow down" China from getting #1 global power, the result could be India becoming #1....Even the EU-Europe-could become a larger player then the US....

The US can NOT stop "global changes" by war any longer...



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 31 2022 at 4:43am

DJ;

From [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-china-sanctions-nancy-pelosi-refused-entry-into-china-and-taiwan[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-china-sanctions-nancy-pelosi-refused-entry-into-china-and-taiwan - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-china-sanctions-nancy-pelosi-refused-entry-into-china-and-taiwan ;

Reports are coming in from Asia as of 4:09 AM eastern US Time, claiming that the People's Republic of China has "Sanctioned" U.S. Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi.   The reports also claim that as a result of being Sanctioned, Pelosi is DENIED ENTRY into China and into Taiwan.

These reports are coming from media persons on the ground inside Asia, but their media outlets have yet to report these claims.

Pelosi departed the United States on Saturday, allegedly aboard a U.S. Air Force C-40 transport aircraft, which allegedly7 had TWO fighter jets as escort.

The plane was tracked across the continental U.S., out into the Pacific, and then landed in Hawaii to refuel.

Pelosi's office tweeted a statement from her:



Later that same aircraft took off from Hawaii, but tracking of it was then BLOCKED, claiming the plane was no longer being tracked because of engine trouble . . . which is a complete non-sequitur; it made no sense at all.

 As of 4:09 AM EDT Sunday, it is not known where Speaker Pelosi's plane is, or if has perhaps landed elsewhere in Asia, as her itinerary did mention stops in Singapore, Malaysia and elsewhere for this trip.

Why the US Speaker of the House is engaging in foreign travel is also a mystery.  Generally, tthat's why the U.S. has a Secretary of State.

More details as they become available.

DJ, Indeed this East-Asia trip is giving a lot of questions....In part more US weaponsales to Japan, South Korea and Taiwan will be part of the trip....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-iOq14Wl0[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-iOq14Wl0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-iOq14Wl0 Alexander Mercouris mentioned Ukraine moving into hyperinflation and a foodcrisis with 1-in-3 Ukraine citizens not getting enough food....Military Summary mentioned Ukraine may force the over 260,000 population of Ukraine-controlled Donbas to move to the west of Ukraine in a major evacuation...Housing is a major problem in West Ukraine....most of the evacuees will be without income....

[url]https://china.liveuamap.com/[/url] or https://china.liveuamap.com/ - https://china.liveuamap.com/ has little extra info....

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-14[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-14 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/taiwan-china-2022.16244/page-14 also of "limited use"....

DJ The Korea conflict could get out of control while the Taiwan-conflict may stay limited (Pelosi meeting Taiwan-delegation outside Taiwan...). 

Europe [url]https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-07-29/europes-two-front-war-russia-climate-change[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-07-29/europes-two-front-war-russia-climate-change - https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-07-29/europes-two-front-war-russia-climate-change ...

DJ [url]https://www.ipkw.nl/[/url] or https://www.ipkw.nl/ - https://www.ipkw.nl/ Europe has been moving away from both nuclear and fossil energy for years...it did not start with the Ukraine-crisis...Most of Europe is connected for electricity and oil/gas...pipelines that may be used for hydrogen gas...Most houses by now have solar panels...

The move away from both Russian and Arab/Iran oil -with fossil energy getting more expensive- in my opinion may not be enough in the short term...we may face "problems"...but on the longer term a lot of European energy needs can be "Made in the EU"...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: July 31 2022 at 10:29pm

DJ, 


My impression/opinion;

-Taiwan visit of n.pelosi. [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-china-sanctions-nancy-pelosi-refused-entry-into-china-and-taiwan[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-china-sanctions-nancy-pelosi-refused-entry-into-china-and-taiwan - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/report-china-sanctions-nancy-pelosi-refused-entry-into-china-and-taiwan pelosi went from Hawaii towards "Asia" -plane ( US Air Force C-40 transport + 2 fighter escorts) returned to Hawaii "engine problems"...then later on the plane flew to Guam...(DJ-Not certain pelosi was on that plane...). Pelosi staff now claiming "Taiwan visit not on agenda"...

DJ-pelosi was planning to visit Japan, South Korea, Singapore and Malaysia...maybe Malaysia told pelosi to stay away if she also wanted to visit Taiwan...A lot of East Asia countries do NOT welcome increase of tensions and US weapons...They want to stay out of US conflicts with other countries...

My impression is the US "may slowly start realizing" "the amount of damage" the US does to itself....At present the US major enemy is the US itself...

Without the US there would be no NATO....certainly not a "global NATO" seen in most non-western countries as neo-colonial...NOT in their interest....more a risk. 

Again-if you stop China from becoming global economy #1...India is next....The US has lost its dominance and can not get that back by more wars...DJ-I think a main reason is the US created to many wars since the end of the Soviet Union...overstretching not only its military but also its finances and economy...Outsourcing production to Asia was a US choice in the 90's - the present situation-with China, India preparing to become larger economies then the US is an outcome...

-The EU 

Presumably, those are the nations that will be especially “chilling out” this coming winter, in order to continue America’s political domination over Europe.


DJ, NL has been a major gas-exporter...from that perspective NL has been an EU exception...The sanctions war is hurting NL since we have major seaports (Amsterdam, Rotterdam etc.), major off-shore (in part now building wind turbines to be put at sea). 

Eric Zuesse has written better pieces; The EU still has lots of gas, oil becoming exploitable (some of it even in short term) with much higher energy prices. "Green" energy (=more then wind and solar ! Also related to storing that kind of energy for use later.) may become cheaper then "old fossil fuels". Nuclear energy also is a factor. (However uranium has to be imported...).

Another point is "EU leaders" based their decissions on the sanction-war on US/UK intel...again turning out to be very wrong...In my opinion the EU is "repositioning itself" -may distance itself from NATO and the US...For that matter Brexit is making things easier...Germany, France, Italy may seek "a new basis" for "cooperation with Asia"...

But, as a result of turning off Russia’s energy-spigots in Europe, the EU itself might become destroyed, and a mere has-been economically, culturally, industrially, and otherwise, just so that Europe will remain as being https://archive.ph/3UXyR" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - vassal-nations to America  (its https://archive.ph/R1Gbd#selection-541.401-599.26" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - “dispensable” nations, like all the rest are), instead of to become what it always should have been, and naturally would have been - the radiant glory of the world’s largest continent: Eurasia, a Europe that includes Russia, instead of that endangers Russia.

The glory of Europe is done for, finished as what it was, and the only real question now is how fast? Oh - and WHY? Why did Europe’s leaders do this? That will be the real EU-killer question.

The Europe that was, is gone - killed by the https://archive.li/Kuuux" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - regime in Washington DC, using its many hired agents in Europe, and their hired guns in NATO.

DJ...YES-Maybe the EU was also a US idea...but most of the "EU-idea" came from Europe itself ! France and Germany had THREE wars within a hundred years...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War 1870-71 followed by 1914-18 and 1939-45...The [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelux#History[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelux#History - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelux#History may have been one of the first EU cooperation projects...1944 BElgium-NEtherlands-LUXemburg started working together...(Of course the BeNeLux was NL from 1815 till 1830...Luxemburg under NL rule till 1880/1890). 

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro ; As of 2013, the euro is the second-largest  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="Reserve currency - reserve currency  as well as the second-most traded currency in the world after the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" title="United States dollar - United States dollar . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#cite_note-18" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#cite_note-19" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#cite_note-20" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro#cite_note-21" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [17]  As of December 2019, with more than €1.3 trillion in circulation, the euro has one of the highest combined values of banknotes and coins in circulation in the world

DJ Both in Africa and Latin America countries would like to "copy" the EU idea....I think the EU needs reforms...most countries need a better functioning democracy...but the UK may be the only country leaving the EU...

Maybe the "strength is in its weakness"...there is NO European Army willing to invade other countries...Other countries may disagree with some EU members-disagree with others-still do bussiness either in Euro, their own currency or otherwise...The EU has much more flexibility then the US...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-how-comfortable-are-you-us-dollar[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-how-comfortable-are-you-us-dollar - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-how-comfortable-are-you-us-dollar The US$ was used as a weapon...you simply can not do so with the Euro...If Ukraine would be allowed to switch to the Euro-to limit hyperinflation-the basis then has to be a form of peace...

My impression is that US foreign policy will widen the gap with Europe...Spending extra billions on the military with high inflation may not bring extra military...inflation will undo the extra spending...

DJ-My impression/opinion; The US may start realizing it is getting very isolated by its foreign policy...No other country wants more wars....The US may be sidelined in global affairs...Europe, Oceania need trade with Asia...Latin America does not need Spanish/Portugal colonization being replaced by US neo-colonialism...



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 10:55am

Server error....

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-sink-pelosi-taiwan-headlines[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-sink-pelosi-taiwan-headlines - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-sink-pelosi-taiwan-headlines ; 

US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will arrive at Songshan Airport Tuesday evening at 10:30pm local time.

At the same time The Wall Street Journal is reporting Monday that "she's definitely coming" - based on an unnamed source in contact with top  https://www.wsj.com/articles/nancy-pelosi-begins-asian-tour-in-singapore-as-china-again-warns-against-visiting-taiwan-11659358264" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Taiwan officials : 

People whom Mrs. Pelosi is planning to meet with in Taiwan have been informed of her imminent arrival, this person said, though some details remain in flux. Some of Ms. Pelosi’s meetings have been scheduled for Tuesday evening, but most are set for Wednesday, the person said, adding that they include, but aren’t limited to, Taiwanese government officials. "She’s definitely coming," the person said. "The only variable is whether she spends the night in Taipei."


DJ [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/on-the-woke-flight-to-taiwan.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/on-the-woke-flight-to-taiwan.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/08/on-the-woke-flight-to-taiwan.html ;

Pelosi's trip is a stupid thing to do but she is a politician and stupid things are what they generally do.

Michael D. Swaine @Dalzell60 -  https://twitter.com/Dalzell60/status/1554081240394997761" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - 12:26 UTC · Aug 1, 2022

I have been told that Pelosi has said she will only not go 2 TW if Biden publicly discourages her n she can blame him. Anyone else heard this? Sounds like Pelosi. Why can’t they both confer n conclude it’s not a good idea? Why the blame game, if true?
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/01/politics/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-visit/index.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - Pelosi expected to visit Taiwan, Taiwanese and US officials say

I can think of several  https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/07/how-china-warns-of-pelosis-taiwan-trip.html" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - reasons why Pelosi will not arrive in Taiwan. Here flight might, for example, get diverted. But it is also possible that it happens but is followed by huge consequences, likely to the disadvantage of the U.S. and Taiwan.

There is also  https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/07/30/is-pelosi-trip-to-taiwan-pearl-harbour-moment-jake-sullivan-called-for/" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - this thought , by Cynthia Chung, which might become relevant:

In October 2019, Jake Sullivan, who became U.S. National Security Advisor in 2021, stated in an  https://supchina.com/podcast/an-alternate-vision-of-u-s-china-relations-with-jake-sullivan/" rel="noopener" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - interview that the U.S. needed a clear threat to rally the world and play the role of saviour of mankind and that China could be that organizing principle for U.S. foreign policy. In the 2019 interview, he acknowledges that the problem was that people were not going to believe that China is a global threat, that their view of China is too positive and that the United States would need a “Pearl Harbour moment,” a real focusing event to change their minds, something he calmly stated that “would scare the hell out of the American people.”

She correctly traces such 'Pearl Harbour moment' thinking back to neo-conservative movement. Chung closes with this:

Thus, when Jake Sullivan observes that there is not enough anti-China sentiment to bolster an image of the United States as a “saviour of mankind” against China and that America is in need of a “Pearl Harbour moment” I would be very wary.

The circus around Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan in the coming days, and evident glee that is coming forth from many of these  https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/warmongering-republicans-have-throbbing" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; - neocons frothing at the mouth over this prospect is a clear sign that something incredibly reckless and stupid is about to happen.

Pelosi’s airplane might indeed be shot down on her completely irrelevant and unnecessary trip to Taiwan, and if it is, don’t be surprised if it was the Americans themselves who are behind it, who have shown they are willing to do anything for that “Pearl Harbour moment.”

I for one surely hope that the above does not happen.


and [url]https://southfront.org/how-likely-is-a-nuclear-ww-iii-u-s-v-china/[/url] or https://southfront.org/how-likely-is-a-nuclear-ww-iii-u-s-v-china/ - https://southfront.org/how-likely-is-a-nuclear-ww-iii-u-s-v-china/ ; The U.S. side (now replacing the Japanese side as the post-WW-II, fascist, overlords of Taiwan) had lost the civil war in China, but, ever since, the U.S. Government has been protecting the losing side in China’s civil war, who holed-up in what is actually China’s province of Formosa or Taiwan. If and when China finally takes back control of it, the place-name might revert to “Formosa,” or to “the Province of Formosa,” so as to signify that China, not Japan, won WW II. None of this fascism in post-WW-II Asia would have occurred, at all, if FDR instead of Truman had been America’s President after WW II.  https://archive.ph/iZc9y#selection-1205.0-1663.340" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: red; text-decoration: underline; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); transition: all 0.2s ease 0s; outline: 0px; font-family: Roboto, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; - Truman was a fascist-imperialist, but FDR was intensely AGAINST both fascism and imperialism.  Anti-communism was merely the excuse that the post-WW-II fascist imperialists gave, for their fascist imperialism (America’s coups, invasions, subversions, etc., to conquer the world), so as to fool their publics into believing they live in a ‘democracy’.

From [url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/roc-ccp-discussions.16244/page-12[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/roc-ccp-discussions.16244/page-12 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/roc-ccp-discussions.16244/page-12 a.o. claims China now preparing three ferries for military use-Those ferries were transporting tanks in 2021...

Also Russia, Iran did make clear they support China in this conflict. 

The stakes went far to high...both China and the US positioned themselves into this crisis that may bring yet another war...North of Taiwan is Korea...with potential another conflict brewing...Japan can not stay out-may face Russia...

We should NOT be in this position...the world will blame biden for this...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: ksc
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 12:11pm

  



Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 12:37pm

ksc-I did not yet see the video....but "we may agree on both Russia and China" have "had it" with the US/biden....

Trying to keep informed on "the region"...

South Korea; [url]https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220801004351315?section=national/politics[/url] or https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220801004351315?section=national/politics - https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220801004351315?section=national/politics ;

DJ-My opinion-it is hard not to link North Korean actions with China policies...as if China (PRC) claims to stick to diplomacy-NK has to do the "bad cop" act ...[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_cop/bad_cop  

[url]https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220801009651325?section=nk/nk[/url] or https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220801009651325?section=nk/nk - https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220801009651325?section=nk/nk ; 

DJ, North Korea can make an issue of lots of things....[url]http://www.kcna.kp/en[/url] or http://www.kcna.kp/en - http://www.kcna.kp/en ...[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/north-korea-preparing-1st-nuclear-test-5-years-blinken-informs-un[/url] or  https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/north-korea-preparing-1st-nuclear-test-5-years-blinken-informs-un - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/north-korea-preparing-1st-nuclear-test-5-years-blinken-informs-un ; As if the region needed to grow hotter at this moment of all eyes being on Nancy Pelosi's Asia trip and potential landing in Taiwan, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced Monday that North Korea is preparing to conduct its seventh nuclear test.

China [url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202208/1271966.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202208/1271966.shtml - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202208/1271966.shtml ;

In celebration of the 95th anniversary of the founding of the PLA, the PLA Eastern Theater Command on Monday released a video on social media, along with the message "We are fully prepared for any eventuality. Fight upon order, bury every intruder, move toward joint and successful operation!" The video has become one of the hottest topics on Sina Weibo, China's Twitter-like social media platform. The hashtag on the topic has received at least 42.5 million views, with many netizens seeing it as a clear warning to Pelosi, who could make a surprise and provocative trip to China's Taiwan island.

DJ...Republic Of China=Taiwan...PRC=Peoples Republic of China-Bejing...[url]https://defconwarningsystem.com/[/url] or https://defconwarningsystem.com/ - https://defconwarningsystem.com/ ;

Already 4,36 AM august 2 in Korea...15.36 PM in DC...

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/getting-reports-that-pelosi-will-land-in-taiwan-this-week[/url] or  https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/getting-reports-that-pelosi-will-land-in-taiwan-this-week - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/getting-reports-that-pelosi-will-land-in-taiwan-this-week also will be updated if there is more news...





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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: August 01 2022 at 11:14pm

DJ, 

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdeBTmhroM8[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdeBTmhroM8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdeBTmhroM8 Alexander Mercouris; As Russia Advances in Donbass Crisis Heats up in Kosovo; EU/UK in 'Major Retreat' on Anti-Russian Oil Sanctions News Topic 569

It is getting quite impossible to catch all the news/developments...[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-white-house-says-speaker-pelosi-has-the-right-to-visit-taiwan[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-white-house-says-speaker-pelosi-has-the-right-to-visit-taiwan - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/bulletin-white-house-says-speaker-pelosi-has-the-right-to-visit-taiwan ...

DJ-What I get is pelosi visited Malaysia, Singapore-now may visit Taiwan - in a US Air Force plane, escorted by US fighters (???)-even stay there one night. Point is pelosi (82) is the #3 in US power structure after biden and harris...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-sink-pelosi-taiwan-headlines[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-sink-pelosi-taiwan-headlines - https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/stocks-sink-pelosi-taiwan-headlines ;

Below is an excerpt from an insightful post titled https://thecultureshack.blog/2022/07/28/red-clouds-of-war-looming-over-taiwan/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - Red Clouds of War Looming Over Taiwan by a Westerner who is a Taiwan-based researcher...

Scenario 1: The minimalist approach. The PLA occupies Jinmen or Matsu islands, as well as Taiwan’s islands in the South China Sea, and maybe even the Penghu Islands. They also declare part or all of the Taiwan Strait a “no go” zone to foreign military shipping. This would probably be fairly easy for the PLA, and Taiwan would probably not want to overcommit to naval action against the huge PLA Navy (PLAN) if it didn’t directly approach the main island.

Scenario 2: Hybrid warfare. Some sort of partial naval and aerial blockade of Taiwan intended to interfere with the economy, combined with stepped-up harassment, such as direct flyovers of Taiwan’s territory by PLA Air Force (PLAAF) jets, or incursions into Taiwan’s maritime space by China’s naval militia, protected by PLAN warships. This might also be accompanied by cyberattacks designed to shut down the internet and other infrastructure for days at a time. Taiwan would have no choice to assert a stiff defensive posture, resulting in real engagements between Taiwanese and Chinese forces, posing a serious risk of escalation.

Scenario 3: A serious attack but no invasion. This would involve air and sea warfare only, no boots on the ground. A full aerial and naval blockade, a protracted set of naval and aerial battles designed to degrade Taiwan’s military, combined with ballistic missile attacks on military targets. Aggressive cyberattacks turning off the internet and shutting down critical infrastructure for days or weeks. Once air and naval superiority were established, China could pick off targets at will, ratcheting up the threat until the government breaks.

Scenario 4The Full Monty – a proper invasion. Total air and sea blockade, massive ballistic missile attacks on military targets, massive cyberattacks to paralyze virtually all military, governmental, and civilian communication and shut down critical infrastructure. Aggressive naval and aerial engagements to degrade Taiwan’s forces and achieve battlespace superiority, followed by sustained aerial assaults by fighters and bombers on military targets. A decapitation strike at Taipei by special forces units to try to seize key leadership personnel. Well-coordinated insider treason and sabotage actions by gangsters, planted CCP agents, and other groups sympathetic to China – the so-called “5th column”. An amphibious assault with close air support from fighters, helicopters, and battle drones at one or more locations in Taiwan, and very possibly a move to seize a major port, such as Keelung, Taipei Port, Taichung, or Kaohsiung. Then hundreds of thousands of troops would start rolling in until the island was occupied. That would be the plan, anyway. PLA success in such an endeavor is very unclear. But they could do a hell of a lot of damage trying. And yes, they might actually succeed, at least partially, such as in seizing and holding the region around Taipei.

Scenario 5: Worst Case (short of nuclear) scenario. Full air and sea blockade, massive ballistic missile attacks on military targets, massive cyberattack, aggressive naval and aerial attacks to degrade Taiwan’s forces and achieve battlefield superiority, followed by aerial assaults by fighters and bomber on military targets and area bombing of civilian targets. There are massive casualties, and Taiwan is crushed by brute force, surrenders, and then the occupiers enter the country and take it over.

The full analysis https://thecultureshack.blog/2022/07/28/red-clouds-of-war-looming-over-taiwan/" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(20, 112, 178); - can be read here .

DJ China is allied with Russia, Iran, Syria, Venezuela etc. The basic problem is with the US-its allies South Korea, Japan, Australia...I think you have to "think big"...

[url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/%F0%9F%87%B9%F0%9F%87%BCtaiwan-%F0%9F%87%A8%F0%9F%87%B3china-reports.16927/page-6[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/%F0%9F%87%B9%F0%9F%87%BCtaiwan-%F0%9F%87%A8%F0%9F%87%B3china-reports.16927/page-6 - https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/%F0%9F%87%B9%F0%9F%87%BCtaiwan-%F0%9F%87%A8%F0%9F%87%B3china-reports.16927/page-6 has some info on build up...B52's over Taiwan, missile testing by China...US claimed North Korea would do another nuclear test...

Last week a Japanese (former) military delegation visited Taiwan, UK MP's may visit Taiwan...

The bigger picture however is the "East-West-confrontation"...

[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/29/686439/New-batch-US-troops-enter-Yemen-energy-rich-Mahra-province[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/29/686439/New-batch-US-troops-enter-Yemen-energy-rich-Mahra-province - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/29/686439/New-batch-US-troops-enter-Yemen-energy-rich-Mahra-province US forces landed in Yemen...[url]https://www.debka.com/mivzak/idf-us-navies-launch-joint-red-sea-exercise/[/url] or https://www.debka.com/mivzak/idf-us-navies-launch-joint-red-sea-exercise/ - https://www.debka.com/mivzak/idf-us-navies-launch-joint-red-sea-exercise/ US/Israel navy drills in the Red Sea...

[url]http://thesaker.is/going-to-samarkand/[/url] or http://thesaker.is/going-to-samarkand/ - http://thesaker.is/going-to-samarkand/ DJ-Western economy is the weak spot...China-and its allies-will "go for the weak spot"...

There may be some military action...I expect Taiwan will pay a very high price-but slowly-via sea/air blockade by both Chian and Russia. We may see "problems" in Korea...more "RIC" Russia-Iran-China naval activities in international waters...

But I think both Ukraine western escalations and biden-made Taiwan crisis call for other actions;

-Energy blockade of "the west"...both Europe and North America could face "hard times"

-Dumping all kinds of western bonds, currencies, while energy prices for that west go sky-high...pushing the "west" towards hyperinflation...

-Cyber and disinformation warfare (DJ-If you think we are in a "war-of-words" it can get much worse...). Goal to further undermine political leadership...

-Increase "south-south"trade. "Friends" of RIC Russia-Iran-China can get energy, food etc. 

DJ, In this global conflict the position of India may be "major". India has long term good relations with Russia however almost at war with both China and Pakistan-still close to China. Since more then 60% of the global population lives in EurAsia India's economic future is in EurAsia...(India shops opening up/taking over western ones in Russia. Oil-for-Rupees-deals). 

The debt-based western economies, with an aging population, may not be that interesting for India...Most of "the west" wants to by energy sell consumer goods-just like India...(or China). 

The sanctions-wars against Iran, Russia etc. did do already a lot of damage for most of the west..."We" are already in a weak position...China will use that...

-In Europe Hungary, Serbia are already "pro-East"...Serbia may "go" for Kosovo, Montenegro...with Russian help. China did send in military hardware by plane into Serbia recently...

-Türkiye still second largest NATO member also "going East" for energy, tourism, trade

-Italy, France soon may face new governments that "change position" in this conflict

-Germany, UK, NL facing major political, social, economic crises...

"We live in interesting times"..."Make trade not war" may be the China way to deal with conflicts...



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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: August 02 2022 at 6:30am


CNN Livestream on pelosi arriving in Taiwan....[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfaAfJ-zj9M[/url] or  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfaAfJ-zj9M - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfaAfJ-zj9M  

pelosi should have arrived by now in Taiwan-IF she would go there...What I (DJ) make of it she can decide NOT to go...

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-are-all-latest-taiwan-headlines[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-are-all-latest-taiwan-headlines - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/here-are-all-latest-taiwan-headlines  

[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-warns-usa-will-not-accept-any-excuse-for-pelosi-landing-in-taiwan[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-warns-usa-will-not-accept-any-excuse-for-pelosi-landing-in-taiwan - https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/china-warns-usa-will-not-accept-any-excuse-for-pelosi-landing-in-taiwan  

DJ-Russia is taking "100%" the side of China...[url]https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/08/01/686636/UN-Secretary-General-Antonio-Guterres-NPT-Conference[/url] or https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/08/01/686636/UN-Secretary-General-Antonio-Guterres-NPT-Conference - https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/08/01/686636/UN-Secretary-General-Antonio-Guterres-NPT-Conference  

DJ-What I make of it; China will see pelosi in Taiwan as a US decleration of war...supporting Taiwan breaking away from China. Most likely Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria (and Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba ?) may take the side of China in this Taiwan-conflict...on top of the Ukraine conflict...

Since there are lots of other conflicts, Iran, Serbia, Baltics, Korea...a China-US confrontation over Taiwan could push the world into global war...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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