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Topic: UK NHS breaking down
Posted By: Dutch Josh
Subject: UK NHS breaking down
Date Posted: December 30 2022 at 10:35am

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DJ,,,embedded, billionairse owned "free press" rather blame China lifting Zero CoViD...UK "conservatives" (or are they just neo-fascists in disguise ?) rather import HCW-ers then raise their income...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: December 30 2022 at 10:50am
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Govt blatant misinformation: - £28bn - £1k per household - for public sector pay to rise with inflation: LIE - £700m for each 1% rise for nurse: LIE - Nurses had an 9% pay rise last year: LIE A bunch of lying crooks!


DJ, the UK "conservatives" want to "privatize everything" out of blind ideology...

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DJ, at a certain moment one could claim "genocide (of the poor) by pandemic". Risks of death/severe/long term illness is very unequal. 


DJ [url]https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/29/one-in-10-tory-peers-have-given-more-than-100000-to-party?CMP=share_btn_tw[/url] or https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/29/one-in-10-tory-peers-have-given-more-than-100000-to-party?CMP=share_btn_tw - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/29/one-in-10-tory-peers-have-given-more-than-100000-to-party?CMP=share_btn_tw ; Exclusive: 27 members of House of Lords have donated almost £50m in total to Conservatives

the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords ;

The House of Lords, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-5" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [a] also known as the House of Peers, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-6" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [3] is the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Bicameralism - upper house of the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_the_United_Kingdom" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Parliament of the United Kingdom - Parliament of the United Kingdom . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-7" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [4] Membership is by  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_peer" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Life peer - appointment ,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_peer" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Hereditary peer - heredity or  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Lords Spiritual - official function . Like the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Commons_of_the_United_Kingdom" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="House of Commons of the United Kingdom - House of Commons , it meets in the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Westminster" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Palace of Westminster - Palace of Westminster in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London,_England" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="London, England - London, England . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-8" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-9" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [6]

The House of Lords scrutinises  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_(law)" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Bill (law) - bills that have been approved by the House of Commons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-10" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [7] It regularly reviews and amends bills from the Commons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-11" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [8] While it is unable to prevent bills passing into law, except in certain limited circumstances, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-12" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [9] it can delay bills and force the Commons to reconsider their decisions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-13" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [10] In this capacity, the House of Lords acts as a check on the more powerful House of Commons that is independent of the electoral process. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-14" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-15" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-16" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [13] While members of the Lords may also take on roles as government ministers, high-ranking officials such as cabinet ministers are usually drawn from the Commons. The House of Lords does not control the term of the prime minister or of the government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-:0-17" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [14] Only the lower house may force the prime minister to resign or call elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-18" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [15]

While the House of Commons has a defined number of members, the number of members in the House of Lords is not fixed. Currently, it has  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_House_of_Lords" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="List of members of the House of Lords - 786 sitting members . The House of Lords is the only upper house of any  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="Bicameralism - bicameral parliament in the world to be larger than its lower house, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords#cite_note-19" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none; - [16] and is the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislatures_by_number_of_members" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="List of legislatures by number of members - second-largest legislative chamber in the world behind the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_People%27s_Congress" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(6, 69, 173); background: none;" title="National People's Congress - Chinese National People's Congress .

DJ reforms are needed...both in US, UK, NL...

DJ reality is brutal;

and "politics";

Politics is about PR...staying in control of a flow of lots of money...It has become the main reason why we are in this worsening pandemic...not the answer...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: December 31 2022 at 5:26am

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-while-the-world-is-concerned-about-china-s-covid-19-situation,-no-media-is-reporting-about-uk-s-covid-crisis-and-the-collapse-of-the-nhs[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-while-the-world-is-concerned-about-china-s-covid-19-situation,-no-media-is-reporting-about-uk-s-covid-crisis-and-the-collapse-of-the-nhs - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-while-the-world-is-concerned-about-china-s-covid-19-situation,-no-media-is-reporting-about-uk-s-covid-crisis-and-the-collapse-of-the-nhs  

DJ; [url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/12/lack-of-good-analyses-contributes-to-the-decline-of-the-west.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/12/lack-of-good-analyses-contributes-to-the-decline-of-the-west.html - https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/12/lack-of-good-analyses-contributes-to-the-decline-of-the-west.html ;

My feel this year was that political, economical and military issues discussed in the main stream media have parted from the objective reality more than they have done at any previous time in my life. I sometimes look into a mirror and think 'well, maybe its just you.' But it is not just me. Other analysts have come to similar conclusion. But, like me, neither of them gets quoted in main stream media and neither is paid in a traditional sense to publish on these issues.

Which, thinking of it, may well be the root of this theme.

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Russia no longer had a low level economy. Yes, its GDP in dollar terms was much lower than those of most European states. But its GDP per capita measured at purchase power of the ruble was quite high. Russia's GDP also includes a much higher percentage of real production and a lower percentage of dubious 'services'. Its health care sector  https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS" style="color: rgb(153, 51, 0); text-decoration: underline; font-family: georgia, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(222, 227, 233); - is  5.6% of its GDP. In the U.S. it is 16.7%, without creating a much better outcome. 

(giving room for extreme incomes, profits on healthcare does not give better healthcare...) DJ, others described the US and UK as ; 

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- John Burn-Murdoch


bad politics...tax a dirty word....simply ignoring basic lessons from history...repeating 19th century mistakes...


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XBB.1.5 has come to prominence this week as it surges in New York. 

 has summarised the evidence on it here https://erictopol.substack.com/p/a-new-variant-alert I've seen less on CH.1.1 but apparently it has recently acquired a new mutation  n:t135i  which might accelerate its growth. 2/3

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Unclear what it means for UK in January/February, but certainly the virus isn't sitting still. Also, we have plenty of emerging variants and could be trying to reduce transmission without invoking what is currently happening in China!. 3/3

DJ, with very limited testing/reporting end of december we may be in for "surprises"....



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: January 02 2023 at 2:45am

[url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-uk-s-covid-19-crisis-is-now-worse-than-china-no-hospital-beds-and-no-oxygen-and-no-death-reporting-who-should-intervene[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-uk-s-covid-19-crisis-is-now-worse-than-china-no-hospital-beds-and-no-oxygen-and-no-death-reporting-who-should-intervene - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-covid-19-news-uk-s-covid-19-crisis-is-now-worse-than-china-no-hospital-beds-and-no-oxygen-and-no-death-reporting-who-should-intervene TMN can not stop being cynical, UK media reporting on the China-crisis while ignoring the UK one....

DJ, another wave of coViD will be blamed on China..."there were only a limited number of cases in most western countries"...of course because the west stopped testing hardly any sequencing left...Most "Chinese" variants may be western variants now returning from China...

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- BNO News

Also in the US HCW-ers may go on strike to demand better pay, lower risks...


link [url]https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-e-delays-killing-up-to-500-people-a-week-g5kpxdpd6[/url] or https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-e-delays-killing-up-to-500-people-a-week-g5kpxdpd6 - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-e-delays-killing-up-to-500-people-a-week-g5kpxdpd6 (public info - you already paid for it via tax- again behind paywall...). 


DJ, every time the cases decrease we see "idiots" screaming "the pandemic is over" while pandemics come in waves...

No doubt lots of countries may face a worsening healthcrisis later this january...healthcare may be beyond breaking point by now...the pandemic-based on earliest virus-findings- started in 2019 in several places-not only Wuhan-China...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: January 06 2023 at 8:46am

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/06/patients-dying-nhs-hospital-corridors-avoidable-deaths?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other[/url] or https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/06/patients-dying-nhs-hospital-corridors-avoidable-deaths?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/06/patients-dying-nhs-hospital-corridors-avoidable-deaths?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other ;

Be under no illusion: the hundreds of avoidable deaths in the NHS every week are the result of political decisions

DJ, why not call UK conservatives responsible for this murderers ? 


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DJ...Why do people accept this ? Also here in NL we are moving towards a crisis ...politics stop reporting statistics as an answer...

[url]https://www.independentsage.org/statement-on-covid-19-management-in-light-of-pandemic-increase-in-china/[/url] or https://www.independentsage.org/statement-on-covid-19-management-in-light-of-pandemic-increase-in-china/ - https://www.independentsage.org/statement-on-covid-19-management-in-light-of-pandemic-increase-in-china/ ;

The UK Government introduced two precautionary measures in early January 2023, in response to the step-change observed in the Chinese epidemic. First, people travelling directly from China will be required to show a negative test result before boarding their flight. Second, a sample of travellers from China will be tested on entry to the UK and any SARS-CoV-2 lineages will be genetically sequenced to identify new variants. However, passengers arriving and testing positive will not be obliged to self-isolate.

Independent SAGE has the following comments on this approach:

  1. Requiring negative COVID-19 tests on direct entry from China is unlikely to make any material difference to the number of cases in the UK. This is because the UK is doing little to control transmission internally, and large numbers of infections presumably arrive from other countries (and equally, spread from the UK to other countries). When attempted in the past, even with a much wider range of countries, this policy has not been effective in keeping prevalence low – this has only worked when implemented as part of a comprehensive quarantine policy.
  2. Testing and genetic sequencing of a proportion of international arrivals makes sense, but only if carried out regardless of the origin of travellers and not just China. Genetic surveillance and the sharing of SARS-CoV2 sequence data varies considerably between countries, with China currently being one providing the least data. Variants can arise anywhere, including the UK.
  3. Surveillance and identification of new variants is helpful only to the extent that action is taken to reduce ensuing transmission within countries where they are introduced.

From the UK perspective, the NHS is already under unprecedented systemic pressure, exacerbated by both COVID and other winter viruses including resurgent influenza virus.  XBB.1.5 is one of the most immune-evasive SARS-CoV-2 variants to date. It also appears to be more transmissible. These features help explain why XBB.1.5 is currently outcompeting other variants such as the BQ lineages in the US, and may also be why it appears to be associated with higher hospitalisation rates.

Thus, we urgently need the multi-layered approach (a.k.a. “ https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o1" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgba(30, 115, 190, 0.96); text-decoration: underline; word-break: break-word; overflow-wrap: break-word; - Vaccines Plus ”) as called for by the Scientific Advisory Group in Emergences (SAGE) in their paper published in 2021: “ https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spi-b-sustaining-behaviours-to-reduce-sars-cov-2-transmission-30-april-2021/spi-b-sustaining-behaviours-to-reduce-sars-cov-2-transmission-22-april-2021" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgba(30, 115, 190, 0.96); text-decoration: underline; word-break: break-word; overflow-wrap: break-word; - Sustaining behaviours to reduce SARS-CoV-2 transmission ” and the associated journal article “ https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjhp.12557" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgba(30, 115, 190, 0.96); text-decoration: underline; word-break: break-word; overflow-wrap: break-word; - Staying ‘COVID-safe’: Proposals for embedding behaviours that protect against COVID-19 transmission in the UK ” 

Immediate steps, as called for by Independent SAGE in its  https://www.independentsage.org/independent-sage-end-of-year-2022-statement/" style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgba(30, 115, 190, 0.96); text-decoration: underline; word-break: break-word; overflow-wrap: break-word; - final report of 2022 , are:

  1. If you haven’t done so already, get vaccinated and/or get a booster without delay. If eligible for the Flu vaccine, ensure you and/or your children have this as well. This vaccine is also available to purchase (anyone over the age of 12) for those able to afford to do so.
  2. If you feel unwell, or have been in close contact with someone who is (or has tested positive for COVID), don’t go out and risk infecting others – whether with SARS-CoV2, influenza or anything else.
  3. Before visiting others, especially anyone elderly or otherwise vulnerable, take a COVID test if you can.
  4. When you meet others, make sure the setting is as well-ventilated as possible.
  5. Where possible, wear a mask in crowded indoor situations, especially where air quality may be poor (e.g. public transport)

These immediate measures need to be combined in the longer term with Government investment to make public spaces (social, educational and workplace) safe through ventilation and air filtration, providing free tests and masks for those unable to afford them, and an effective public communication campaign about the symptoms associated with current variants. These are critical steps needed to reduce the likelihood of people transmitting SARS-CoV2, becoming seriously ill and/or dying from COVID-19. Finally, many, even without severe infections, may suffer long-term health problems due to long COVID.

DJ Excess deaths numbers may be extreme...Genocide-by-pandemic conservative politics...Criminals in power "best prepared for pandemics"US-UK-NL" does get a different meaning...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: January 10 2023 at 3:04am

DJ, You have to be blind-like "dr.john campbell' to NOT see the healthcrisis (dr.j.c. mis interpreting statistics... ONS end of december cases increase... ZOE symptomatic cases go down...well they are...early january...they went up end of december...etc). 



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link [url]https://twitter.com/EmergencyMedDr/status/1610161423833001985/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/EmergencyMedDr/status/1610161423833001985/photo/1 - https://twitter.com/EmergencyMedDr/status/1610161423833001985/photo/1  

link [url]https://twitter.com/EmergencyMedDr/status/1609979130749255681/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/EmergencyMedDr/status/1609979130749255681/photo/1 - https://twitter.com/EmergencyMedDr/status/1609979130749255681/photo/1  

HCW-ers trying to arrange patients do not have to die in corridors...GP's trying to bring patients in to learn hospitals out of oxygen....


and increasing....


Here in NL [url]https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/10/inflation-netherlands-10-2022[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/10/inflation-netherlands-10-2022 - https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/10/inflation-netherlands-10-2022 ; 

The cost of living in the Netherlands was, on average, 10 percent higher in 2022 than a year earlier. In 2021, inflation was still 2.7 percent. The price increases last year were the highest since 1975, Statistics Netherlands (CBS) reported. In that year, consumer products were, on average, 10.2 percent more expensive than the year before.

most Health Care Workers get more poor by the day...Average statistics are misleading. Low income groups-most public sector workers-spent more on food, energy, housing...

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DJ "privatize everything" insanity goes on....



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: January 12 2023 at 6:45am

link [url]https://twitter.com/PaulMainwood/status/1613463576034906112/photo/1[/url] or https://twitter.com/PaulMainwood/status/1613463576034906112/photo/1 - https://twitter.com/PaulMainwood/status/1613463576034906112/photo/1  


link [url]https://covidactuaries.org/2023/01/11/are-nhs-waiting-timescontributing-to-excess-deaths/[/url] or https://covidactuaries.org/2023/01/11/are-nhs-waiting-timescontributing-to-excess-deaths/ - https://covidactuaries.org/2023/01/11/are-nhs-waiting-timescontributing-to-excess-deaths/ ; 

Conclusion 

Our analysis suggests that a significant number of patients could be dying because of long delays accessing emergency care. We estimate this number at over 400 deaths each week between September and November, though it might be higher. The measure we have used is 30-day mortality, so not all of these deaths occur within A&E, or even within the hospital setting.  

There have always been some long delays in A&E departments, particularly during the winter months. However, delays have grown considerably longer since the summer of 2021. This suggests that more additional deaths from long delays might be occurring than was the case pre-pandemic. So this issue is likely to be contributing to  https://covidactuaries.org/2022/09/04/a-summer-of-excess-deaths/" style="box-sizing: inherit; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(221, 51, 51); border-bottom: 1px solid rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); transition: all 0.2s ease-in-out 0s; border-top-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-right-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-left-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); - observed excess deaths . Depending on the reference period used for comparison, additional delays in A&E may be associated with between 200 and 340 excess deaths each week. Further research that provides estimates at regional and more local level would provide further insights.

This blog has been republished with permission from  https://www.lcp.uk.com/our-viewpoint/2023/01/are-nhs-waiting-times-contributing-to-excess-deaths/" style="box-sizing: inherit; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(221, 51, 51); border-bottom: 1px solid rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); transition: all 0.2s ease-in-out 0s; border-top-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-right-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-left-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); - LCP Viewpoint .

You can hear Stuart discuss this work with Tim Harford on  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0dvkm95" style="box-sizing: inherit; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(221, 51, 51); border-bottom: 1px solid rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); transition: all 0.2s ease-in-out 0s; border-top-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-right-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-left-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); - BBC More or Less .

Update

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/ae-waiting-times-and-activity/" rel="noreferrer noopener" style="box-sizing: inherit; background-color: transparent; touch-action: manipulation; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(221, 51, 51); border-bottom: 1px solid rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); transition: all 0.2s ease-in-out 0s; border-top-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-right-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); border-left-color: rgba(221, 51, 51, 0.8); - December data has now been published and, as anticipated, shows longer waiting times than in September to November. Using the “trolley waits” approach above results in approximately 2,200 additional deaths in December, or 500 each week. Again, no account has been taken of the waiting time before the decision to admit and we have not allowed for extra harm arising when dates are more than twelve hours.

DJ...."genocide by pandemic-policy"......

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- Dr. Deepti Gurdasani

and


DJ...one can have some questions on safety/effectiveness of vaccines without "promoting natural immunity"....


DJ...COrona VIral Disease (COVID) is the bigger danger...those discussing vaccines often also oppose masks, NPI...



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
~Albert Einstein


Posted By: Dutch Josh
Date Posted: January 12 2023 at 9:43pm

DJ, 

Again-I disagree with the words TMN uses [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-more-brits-dying-in-ongoing-silent-uk-covid-19-crisis,-mortuaries-now-overflowing-with-carcasses-while-hospitals-are-collapsing[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-more-brits-dying-in-ongoing-silent-uk-covid-19-crisis,-mortuaries-now-overflowing-with-carcasses-while-hospitals-are-collapsing - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-more-brits-dying-in-ongoing-silent-uk-covid-19-crisis,-mortuaries-now-overflowing-with-carcasses-while-hospitals-are-collapsing  

and [url]https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-excess-deaths-rising-exponentially-in-the-united-kingdom-with-covid-19-being-a-major-contributing-factor[/url] or https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-excess-deaths-rising-exponentially-in-the-united-kingdom-with-covid-19-being-a-major-contributing-factor - https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-excess-deaths-rising-exponentially-in-the-united-kingdom-with-covid-19-being-a-major-contributing-factor  

But it is beyond bizarre the US "is warning the world on China" while very likely in a much crisis in the UK itself.....TMN has lots of links to other articles....a.o. [url]https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/21014603/dead-bodies-make-shift-morgues/[/url] or https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/21014603/dead-bodies-make-shift-morgues/ - https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/21014603/dead-bodies-make-shift-morgues/ ;

Hospital vehicles were seen delivering and collecting the dead from the nearest hospital, which is a 15-minute drive away in Salisbury,  https://www.thesun.co.uk/where/wiltshire/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 114, 238); text-decoration: underline; - Wilts .

Two other units have been set up at Royal Liverpool Hospital.

Temporary morgues — typically inside 40ft shipping containers and each holding about 35 bodies — were last seen during the height of the  https://www.thesun.co.uk/topic/pandemic/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 114, 238); text-decoration: underline; - pandemic , when there were at least 1,000 deaths a day.

Although not at that rate, bleak figures showed https://www.thesun.co.uk/topic/christmas/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 114, 238); text-decoration: underline; - Christmas  week was the deadliest in England and Wales for almost two years.

There were more than 1,600 deaths above the norm as the  https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/16862556/cold-weather-affect-body/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 114, 238); text-decoration: underline; - cold weather ,  https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/20769726/warning-flu-hospitalisations-double/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 114, 238); text-decoration: underline; - surging flu infections and  https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/20326019/ambulance-hour-handover-increase-nhs-delays-patients-lives-risk/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 114, 238); text-decoration: underline; - long waits for ambulances and in A&E combined to raise mortality rates by a fifth.

It was the third week running when there were more than 1,000 excess deaths in England and Wales.

The Royal College of Emergency Medicine claimed the spike in deaths was undoubtedly linked to record delays for urgent care.

It said: “If you can’t get an ambulance to someone who’s having a heart attack or a stroke, then some of those patients may die as a result.”


link [url]https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bodies-being-stored-makeshift-morgues-28939174[/url] or https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bodies-being-stored-makeshift-morgues-28939174 - https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bodies-being-stored-makeshift-morgues-28939174  

Another UK news item [url]https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/21024779/strep-a-england-update-total-deaths/[/url] or https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/21024779/strep-a-england-update-total-deaths/ - https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/21024779/strep-a-england-update-total-deaths/ ; 

ANOTHER child has been killed by Strep A in England as the country's total number of deaths reaches 35.

Fresh figures released today by the https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ukhsa-update-on-scarlet-fever-and-invasive-group-a-strep-1?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications-topic&utm_source=0db86531-c5c1-45e2-8b2e-f4bb119f31e4&utm_content=immediately" rel="noreferrer noopener" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 114, 238); text-decoration: underline; - UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) showed the tragic toll had climbed by one.

DJ...Is the UK doing that much worse then other countries ? Maybe in spending on public health it is. UK conservatives "hate everything public"-want to privatize everything out of an insane ideology....


UK "conservative criminals" rather decrease tax for the rich then invest in basic public healthcare...genocide by pandemic may not be the //UK.gov - UK.gov "active choice" however it is the outcome of a choice not to tax the rich....


DJ...the //UK.gov - UK.gov  claim is "the CoViD pandemic is over" even with record excess deaths, hospitals beyond breaking point....I am NOT an expert; most European countries seem to do better then the UK because they have better public healthcare...not less flu/CoViD etc....



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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
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