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Tabitha111
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Posted: March 09 2020 at 8:54pm |
Jason Van Schoor @jasonvanschoor 2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.|
4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask. 5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed. 6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK. 7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern: 8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick 9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2. 10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,
12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe. 13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare. |
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Tabitha111
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'A man who does not think and plan long ahead will find trouble right at his door.'
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Usk
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This is really scary!! Looks like US is two weeks away from this being the case on the two coasts. Any chance we can get help from other states and send our sick out to the country? |
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WitchMisspelled
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If they're not intervening with those 65 or older, it explains why every patient seemed so young in that video that's been going around of an Italian ER/ICU |
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Technophobe
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That is why we are SIP already. Bernard is in his 70s, I'm healthy, but fat and 59. We would just be left to die. REMEMBER THIS VIRUS TAKES 2 WEEKS TO SHOW UP IN MANY CASES. BY THE TIME YOU KNOW FOR CERTAIN IT IS 'HERE', IT IS TOO LATE. If you do nothing else, wear your masks and wash your hands. |
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