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[url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/multiple-b-52-s-and-b1b-s-airborne-toward-russia[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/multiple-b-52-s-and-b1b-s-airborne-toward-russia ;

This morning, the United States Air Force launched FOUR (4) B-52 Stratofortresses in nuclear configuration toward Russia's north and also launched TWO (2) B-1b Lancers in nuclear configuration toward Russia's east.

The four B-52's took off from England.  The two B-1b's took off from Guam.

I don't know who inside the US military thought this was a good idea; it's not.  And it's not even necessary.

This Sabre-rattling is foolish.

Now, if they were doing it toward China, THAT might be a smarter move.  But for some reason, a slew of top officials inside our military have this idea that Russia is some type of threat to us.  They are far less of a threat than China.

DJ-I also take a look-from time to time-on [url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/british-troops-perform-largest-parachute-drop-for-decades-to-show-solidarity-with-ukraine.14378/[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/british-troops-perform-largest-parachute-drop-for-decades-to-show-solidarity-with-ukraine.14378/  most of the members are from the US and simply do not get how far Russia and China are in "uniting against the US". (By the way; Just like our troops did when Russia attacked Georgia back in 2008.
That was really all about the massive NATO Armada that was sailing to attack Iran. Putin's military was supposed to keep trucking south past Georgia till Bush and Putin yelled at each other like bully's in a school yard while in the bleachers of the Olympics.

Bush said he would stop the Armada if Russia stopped his troops from taking Georgia completely and came up with a good excuse of why his forces attacked. Now everyone was made to believe it was a tie chewing idiots fault for attacking Russian peacekeepers.

Now you know why we haven't kicked the crap out of Iran yet!! DJ-this is new info for me-maybe provides some info on how bad relations already were in 2008-under trump things even did worsen) 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-sanctions-iranian-nuclear-scientists-and-venezuelas-maduro-world-ignores-un-snap[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-sanctions-iranian-nuclear-scientists-and-venezuelas-maduro-world-ignores-un-snap DJ-In MSM "it is a weapon-trade-stop" in fact the US want to stop Iran in ALL trade.

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-close-upgrading-qatar-non-nato-ally-status-deepening-military-ties[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-close-upgrading-qatar-non-nato-ally-status-deepening-military-ties meets reality [url]https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/trumpism-narcissistic-deal-making-middle-east-200915130029169.html[/url] or https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/trumpism-narcissistic-deal-making-middle-east-200915130029169.html 

DJ-Does trump want "peace in the Middle East" yes-under US/Israel conditions. He most likely is willing to get US forces out of the area if it can be replaced with "royal" forces of Arab sheikh/kingdoms (that have nothing to do with democracy but everything with oil). 

Of course the UK Assange show-trial kept out of MSM [url]https://consortiumnews.com/2020/09/20/they-cal-for-assanges-immediate-release-lula-rouseff-zapatero-corbyn-correa-paul-galloway-gravel-varoufakis/[/url] or https://consortiumnews.com/2020/09/20/they-cal-for-assanges-immediate-release-lula-rouseff-zapatero-corbyn-correa-paul-galloway-gravel-varoufakis/ 

-weather, Beta will reach southern US, another storm may develop near Florida. Paulette moving towards north Africa/Portugal to make a U-turn, Teddy going towards Canada...[url]https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5[/url] or https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php?basin=atlc&fdays=5 Bizar weather....

-Looking at [url]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/url] or https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I can not help asking myself what to think of these numbers...the UK may be moving towards 50.000 new cases per day, NL may see 10.000 new cases per day-in october. In many countries hospital/ICU cases going up-autumn is getting started-outlook is getting worse. 

The "politization of statistics" may be showing in the numbers. If you test less you will find less cases. On this forum-in the news of V483a mutation-we have to find out what that does mean. Testing is a problem in many countries. 

DJ-On the longer term I expect Covid19 may develop towards a "normal" cold virus. It would be nice if such a development is already taking place. Maybe that would explain why-with record numbers of new tested cases-the hospitals are not (yet) on breaking point. In spring we may have had over 1 million Covid19 infections in NL-but since testing capacity was very limited (since NL did not want to work with German labs) most of those never did get tested. 

In NL more than 5000 deaths were in care centers. Staff did infect the people who lived there-family was not allowed to visit "to stop the spread". Staff did not get tested, had no PPE-because "that was needed in the hospitals". In some countries health ministers did loose their job-here in NL he is supposed to get the votes of the christian-democratic party...(in a possible frauded party election). 

[url]https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2020/09/articles/animals/cats/sars-cov-2-in-cats-and-dogs-canada/[/url] or https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/2020/09/articles/animals/cats/sars-cov-2-in-cats-and-dogs-canada/ Covid19 spread risk via animals is-as far as is known-limited.

[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/09/21/dutch-public-wants-remain-neutral-us-china-start-new-cold-war[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/09/21/dutch-public-wants-remain-neutral-us-china-start-new-cold-war The political elite is still following the US elite-with eyes closed. [url]https://www.rt.com/russia/501274-lavrov-us-diplomacy-iran-sanctions/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/russia/501274-lavrov-us-diplomacy-iran-sanctions/ Lavrov; US lost talent for diplomacy. [url]https://dutchreview.com/news/dutch-losing-faith-in-us-ties-look-to-france-and-germany/[/url] or https://dutchreview.com/news/dutch-losing-faith-in-us-ties-look-to-france-and-germany/ and [url]https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/dutch-are-shunning-traditional-allies-uk-and-us-for-germany-and-france/[/url] or https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/dutch-are-shunning-traditional-allies-uk-and-us-for-germany-and-france/ 

DJ-We have a few (extreme) right wing parties-one of them (Forum voor Democratie) seem to have had a fund-raising event at the US embassy-with also the US ambassador as a speaker. The Geert Wilders PVV "freedom party" may have strong Israeli links (both parties have trouble keeping neo-nazi's out). 

Tramps and thieves-Cher [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLTETaWswCY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLTETaWswCY 

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DJ-Peak Prosperity/Chris Martenson doing a Covid19-update [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSsTCjbNPF0[/url]

-US Excess deaths till august=239.461 CM expects the US number to decrease, less caraccidents, people stay at home-maybe an increase in crime, suicides (DJ-I think CM is "very optimistic-both on US and what to expect worldwide-more spread=more chaos=more crime=more deaths)

-UK tested cases increase-"would go for 50.000 new cases-200 deaths per day" CM; both hospital cases and deaths from Covid19 are still very low-increase of cases began in August....false statistics when you only look at positive tested cases-now much more testing than in spring. Due to how testing works a lot of positives may be false-no reason for lockdown. 

-CM-A specificity of 99% would produce 1% false positives-if the outcome of the test itself also would see 1% positive cases-than 50% of the positives would be false (DJ-If I put that correct-in words). 

-CM-If you would correct to total numbers for the amount of testing there is hardly a second wave at all ! (DJ-Is that so ? Would "experts" not see the statistics showing wrong numbers ???)

-CM-To get more realistic numbers redefinition of "case" as a person with symptoms, (DJ-In spring only hospitalized cases did see testing), PCR testing could pick up old virus parts-not a good test. False negatives can happen when virus parts have already left the body-but you are ill from the (by time of testing) gone virus. "Cured" is unclear-people may get reinfected-Infective should be the focuspoint-that is how Covid spread. 

-CM In the UK a "case"has become someone who tested positive (DJ-Is that not all around the globe ???)

-Mortality increases exponentially with age. DJ-Is CM suggesting "locking up the old and vulnarable ?"

-Dr. Fauci now advises vitamin D and C (CM-Why waited that long-could have saved many lives) 

-Why no large studies for Ivermectin-it seems to be both working and cheap ? 

-CM-Of course the UK government knows the "incorrect statistics, Vitamin D, C, Ivermectin works-why not use them ? Two choices or ignorant or corrupt.  Since those in power are not stupid-what is the agenda ???? Governments spread fear based on false statistics, witholding effective treatments....worse times on their way ...

DJ-I do not know what to think of this PP/CM story-the UK case definition as someone that tested positive for the Covid19/SARS-2 virus is-as far as I know-the worldwide definition. Here in NL still a lot of people with mild Covid19-complaints can not get tested, if you do not have a healthissue you will not be tested. What is different from spring is that now a lot of young people test positive-have mild disease-do most of the time not end up dead or in ICU. 

Also here in NL a lot of government/healt "experts" actions run behind the facts, work out wrong. (In july all people even with very light complaints should get tested-now there is shortage of lab capacity (German, UAE labs have to help-finally) and politics claim to many people seek a test...At ICU in Dutch hospitals a lot of the staff is already at breaking point, there is a shortage of flu vaccines, PPE at some places...) 

DJ-My impression is that there may be some false positives and negatives, PCR testing is far from perfect-but hospital cases and Covid-deaths show an increase-eventhough not yet exploding-mainly due to another-much younger-age group being infected. 

PP/CM leaves me a bit puzzled...

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[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/09/the-end-of-the-rules-based-international-order.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/09/the-end-of-the-rules-based-international-order.html 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/visualizing-state-democracy-country[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/visualizing-state-democracy-country US not scoring very good under trump ? 

[url]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-pledges-military-sales-iran-moment-un-arms-embargo-expires-next-month[/url] or https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-pledges-military-sales-iran-moment-un-arms-embargo-expires-next-month 

DJ-"The world is dumping the US$"-with that it is the end of the economic US domination over the globe. trump is falling back on "military means" ? 

I (DJ) agree with CM we are moving towards "hard times". But I think that has to do with the US sinking into (election related) chaos. The action of the US ambassador in NL -inviting a party for fundraising in the US embassy-wich was followed with a PR campain of a person related to that party running a group "Virus truth" is "strange". (reminds me of [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSDAP/AO[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSDAP/AO -does the former US "tea-party" have a global "extreme conservative" network financed by some very rich people ?) 

I try to find out if [url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/#breaking-news.5[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/#breaking-news.5 have any news-NAto did  not yet follow the NAzi's or NApoleon east-"bringing democracy to Belarus". The US did not yet put "boots on the ground" in Taiwan. Israel did not go attack nuclear sites in Iran. 

I hope it stays that way....

Dutch rock-Super Sister-Dona Nobis Pacem [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSlWOgokKM[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBSlWOgokKM from 1970....



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Vitamin C is a new one on me.  But I've been reading/hearing about the benefits of D almost since the beginning.  

As an aside, don't rely on sunshine to get your vitamin D if you're over 60.  My out-doors loving brother was very surprised to learn his D was low even spending hours a day in the sun daily.  

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Vitamin C taken to bowel tolerance levels can do amazing things against viruses, but you have to take it to bowel tolerance, and you have to be consistent about it.

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Yep.  You need to take Zinc with it too, one is the gun, the other the bullets - useless individually.  (Vitamin D is the general, directing whom to fire at.)

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DJ-You can not make compromises with a virus, Covid19 "does not do deals"...

The world is moving "on the dark side of the moon" , lost in how to react on Covid19. [url]https://innovationorigins.com/europe-braces-itself-for-a-corona-autumn/[/url] or https://innovationorigins.com/europe-braces-itself-for-a-corona-autumn/ A lot of European countries are on the way to a second lockdown. 

China did export her "treatment plan"to Serbia. Serbia has very limited covid-cases. Finland, Baltic states did close their border in time-most likely in government communications there is public trust. Also Germany-in most places-Covid19 seems to be "limited" so far. 

In [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds#Plot[/url] or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds#Plot ;

To his surprise, he discovers that all the Martians have been killed by an onslaught of earthly pathogens, to which they had no immunity: "slain, after all man's devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth".[10]

DJ-I do not think Covid19 "may kill us"-our inability to deal with the virus may do so...

Dr. John Campbell in an episode last week did say "better a bad government then no government at all" referring to anarchy in failed states. It is good the nazi-regime did loose its control in some parts of occupied Europe at the end of the war. Bad governments keep bad things going and stand in the way of working solutions...

Is trump [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/president-leaves-press-conference-for-emergency-call[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/president-leaves-press-conference-for-emergency-call organizing "a strong presidency" just before the nov-3 US elections ? 

Western secret services organizing Belarus unrest, poisening of Navalny in Russia did not stop German-Russian "North stream" . [url]https://southfront.org/us-declares-it-is-forming-a-coalition-to-block-nord-stream-2/[/url] or https://southfront.org/us-declares-it-is-forming-a-coalition-to-block-nord-stream-2/  (DJ-remember the "moderate IS-related rebels" in Syria claiming Assad did gas them-while evidence showed the gas used came from Libya-via Turkey-to the "rebels" -western private companies called "media/press" went along with the IS claim.)

"Make America Great Again" was stopped by Covid19-who to blame ? China, Iran ? Russia ? Germany ? In the US further increase of (organized ? [url]https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/rioters-mobilizing-nationwide-say-u-s-a-burns-tonight[/url] or https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/rioters-mobilizing-nationwide-say-u-s-a-burns-tonight ) "social unrest"  (trump as "law & order" actor/president ?). With Covid-cases going up in many US states....

Yesterday PP/CM  claimed ICU/deaths were not increasing-"positive testing cases" most being false...I think-with all respect-Chris Martenson is-just like his XYZ-herd immunity-idea-wrong. In many countries it did take more time than during spring-then testing often was done in hospitals-most earlier cases-missed, but ICU and deaths are going up....hospital staff is at breaking point. They first had to deal with the Covid-crises, other care was delayed-in the summer had to do overtime to deal with only a limited number of other illnesses/patients that did not seek care during spring. And now the second wave is knocking at the door....

Yes it is good news a "Dutch" (Leiden Janssen Pharma=Johnsen & Johnsen [url]https://www.janssen.com/[/url] or https://www.janssen.com/ ) vaccine seems to be effective-may be on the market in 2021, it is good treatments did improve, vitamin D, C+zinc offers some protection, a lot of people do take social distance...but maybe that is no longer the main problem...

Just like in climate change Earth is "moving out"of a climate that offers conditions for life, this pandemic may bring that much social unrest societies are getting "on the brink of collapse" . Here in NL "making deals with Covid19" "to save the economy" has resulted in close to a government/political crisis. This is not only the case in NL-in some other countries the situation-with less government support for the "new poor" (the old poor did not have any political support-at best "paid to keep silent") can cause "serious problems" (with "serious government action" to control it). 

Of course what makes matters much worse this Covid19 crises comes on top of many other crises-in healthcare, housing, climate, the economy....(DJ-I blame neo-liberalism-we need a government working for public interests being in control over companies going for private interests-the balance is gone...Oxfam came with [url]https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/carbon-emissions-richest-1-percent-more-double-emissions-poorest-half-humanity[/url] or https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/carbon-emissions-richest-1-percent-more-double-emissions-poorest-half-humanity "tax the rich" !!!!!!!! Politics should control the rich-not be under their control !!!! To put it very confronting "the rich are killing the poor"-we must get more economic balance !)

The report assesses the consumption emissions of different income groups between 1990 and 2015 – 25 years when humanity doubled the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. It found:   

  • The richest 10 percent accounted for over half (52 percent) of the emissions added to the atmosphere between 1990 and 2015. The richest one percent were responsible for 15 percent of emissions during this time – more than all the citizens of the EU and more than twice that of the poorest half of humanity (7 percent).
     
  • During this time, the richest 10 percent blew one third of our remaining global 1.5C carbon budget, compared to just 4 percent for the poorest half of the population. The carbon budget is the amount of carbon dioxide that can be added to the atmosphere without causing global temperatures to rise above 1.5C – the goal set by governments in the Paris Agreement to avoid the very worst impacts of uncontrolled climate change.
     
  • Annual emissions grew by 60 percent between 1990 and 2015. The richest 5 percent were responsible for over a third (37 percent) of this growth. The total increase in emissions of the richest one percent was three times more than that of the poorest 50 percent.


Tim Gore, Head of Climate Policy at Oxfam and author of the report said: “The over-consumption of a wealthy minority is fuelling the climate crisis yet it is poor communities and young people who are paying the price. Such extreme carbon inequality is a direct consequence of our governments decades long pursuit of grossly unequal and carbon intensive economic growth.

David Bowie-Is There Life On Mars [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKcl4-tcuo[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKcl4-tcuo 




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-I do not think Covid19 "may kill us"-our inability to deal with the virus may do so...


This!  In the case of the US, by failing to be proactive; by failing to pull together an organized, integrated response at the federal level, that could then be implemented at the state and local level; by failing to listen to scientists, and interfering with them and diluting/disputing their messages at virtually every turn; sending mixed messages, i.e., saying masks are unnecessary, then saying wearing them is patriotic, then making fun of others for wearing them.  I'm sure many of you could add to this list.

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ViQueen24, the inability, incompetence to deal with this pandemic in many rich developed states by very well educated smart people is shocking. One of the few conclusions of PP/CM I agree with from his last episode-is it ignorance or corruption-why do experts/governments fail this much ? 

I follow a "data-journalist" on twitter-for NL his conclusion is "we do it wrong, study it, to do it wrong the next time again". Of course if you think the US situation is bad, the Dutch situation in some ways is even worse-no masks (you may get kicked out of a shop, gym etc. if you wear a mask-"If you are ill you stay at home" -that the mask is a preventative step is beyond most...

Here in NL we may be going full speed for a second lockdown with all alarms going of-for hospital admissions, ICU, new tested cases, deaths-our government is "good" for extreme "swings"; first as good as no rules-and when things get totally out of control-they may go for extremes-in a matter of hours-to the other side. Public support is dropping...

Peak Prosperity/Chris Martenson on how much damage a second lock down will do. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhqQd1frpDs[/url]

-UK health secretary on SkyNews-DJ-I think PP/CM has a point in 1% false positives with massive testing is a problem. (If you test 1 million people 1%=10.000 people being told to self-isolate etc. for "false positive testing". Finland Covid19-dogs score better..) In the interview also the mix of false PCR testing with a (far from perfect) "app" - increasing things going wrong...

-In the UK a "positive" test means you did have virus particles in your swab enough to be detected in the PCR-"copying proces". It does not mean it is an active infection, or you are spreading the virus. If you test positive -you yourself have to isolate for 10 days, your "household"has to isolate for two weeks..., and if you are using the "app" you have to alarm all you have been in contact with as well. DJ-PP/CM is asking a good question-is there not a second-more accurate test ? (DJ-Is there ? Rapid testing gives even more false positives-how many 100% correct tests are there ?) Also why does your "social bubble" have to self-isolate for two weeks-and the one who tested positive just ten days ...? 

-PP/CM is WRONG !!!! in claiming there is no second wave !!!!! Here in NL they are already spreading ICU-cases over all hospitals to deal with the coming increase. PP/CM defenition of "a case" only as one with symptoms is dangerous ! (I do not know why PP/CM is spreading this non-sense-he is knowing a lot of spread goes via a/pre-symptomatic cases.)

-PP/CM has a point in stating in spring most tests were taken from hospitalized cases-those people were very ill. Now most tests are done in a population that is not that ill-yet. But PP/CM is wrong in his "belief" most of the testing is done in people with no symptoms. (DJ-Here in NL even with symptoms it is hard to get tested...contact tracing is in chaos. The statistics may indicate results from a few days-up to a week-old ! )

-You can look at number of deaths in a pandemic for calling it a first, second wave-but that is not a rule-but a choice. Comparing the Spanish Flu of 1918 (1917-1923 may be more correct-DJ-a pandemic often takes years !) has "limited use"-due to the data being far from complete, describing a society that is much different than the one in 2020 and had to do with a flu-virus-not a corona-virus ! (DJ-It may be good to realize-at the peak of the Spanish Flu 25.000 deaths per million, now-so far-the peak seems to be 400 per million.)

-In describing the balancing act PP/CM in a short sentence mentions "in the US losing your job=losing your health insurance wich can be a death sentence" should that not be a major first step ? Get public health for all in the US ? Tax the rich-if not taxing them means the poor die ? 

PP/CM has a point in keep the economy going to keep healthcare going. But you have to keep-in my opinion (DJ) the LOW RISK part of the economy going. And yes-that can mean the end for most (air)travel and some other high risk parts of the economy-but you have to govern, make decisions. A government should be able to direct workers to switch from hospitality to hospital work...is that such a strange idea ? (For the US "am I a "soc...ist" in claiming governments are there to govern ? Not to only collect tax from the poor to make the rich even more rich ?) 

DJ-I am not a fan of China-I like my freedom of speech etc. But the Chinese government-even if the statistics are not 100% correct-seems to be able to act. Also some other countries do well-keeping borders closed, having strict rules to get a grip on the pandemic.

-DJ-I think it is wrong if police arrest people for sitting in a park unless they refuse to leave when police asks them to do so. CM "paints a picture" that may not describe all of the story. NAC-CM used as supplement does not work-according to a study. Also blood group is not a factor in catching Covid19. 

-PP/CM comes up with age as the main factor in outcome of Covid19-"lock up the over 60 age group" PP ? 

-PP/CM "60% of business closures permanent" DJ-so what ? So you need to secure the people that did loose their job find another source of income. With healthcare a lot of them are needed there right now ! As a country you need an income-but maybe for now-as a country that income could be taxing the rich that paid for your politicians...unless politicians do not work for the country but only serve the rich !

We NEED a "new normal" because the "old normal" did bring us in these crises ! With 26 million US workers out of work you need good plans, good government, to organize new jobs, a new-better-economy !

PP/CM conclusion; "if there is a second wave" we have good treatments (HCQ, Ivermectin, vitamin, D, C+zinc etc) "most of the deaths in the first wave were in the "vulnerable" group" . "Saving the economy should be a priority" . 

DJ-We are in a second wave, the only way to slow down is NPI wich may include certain restrictions on (air)travel, restaurants etc. There is no need to shut down all of the economy-but high risk part of the economy should stop-if there is money to pay for people that ran out of work then there is money to give those people another (part time) job ! (From extra help in care, to delivery of groceries, helping in e-teaching etc.)

It looks like the summer is over-Dusty Springfield [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbT2hmtT2ME[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbT2hmtT2ME 

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Dr. John Campbell, DJ-The US strategy seems to be to stop Covid19 by vaccinating all in the US (?) by the end of july 2021. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5SUsDSxpY[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ5SUsDSxpY Without a vaccine-so far only 10% of the US population has a form of immunity-is the idea. 

With over 200.000 deaths in the US and "90 % of the population at risk" without a vaccine the US could face 2 million Covid deaths ? 

Dr. J.C. starts his video with causes of deaths in 2017. With-so far-1 million Covid19 deaths that puts Covid19 at place 14 of the causes of deaths. Why so much action here and not on other-more massive-killers often easy to treat. Like diarrhea, the health effects of bad air, smoking. 

DJ-If you would translate the US numbers to a global perspective-with now 1 million+ Covid deaths-if 90% of the global population is still at risk-how to prevent (over) 10 million Covid19 deaths as a result ? An Indian expert claimed vaccinating all of the global population (DJ-If possible) will take till 2024. 

Dr.J.C. also notices the differences in US statistics (DJ-partly due to including-or not-Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Guam, Samoa etc.) 

-UK contact app now active, other app does collect data-you can fill in info on your health. (DJ-May be a good idea) In Universities widespread infections-some of the students going home over the weekend (infecting others). Also in London increase of cases. (DJ-Herd immunity-if there is such-may offer limited protection. Spread most in younger age group. We have to wait and see if severe, hospital cases, deaths go up in younger age group as well.) 

-Number of people dying with not from Covid19 in UK is going up in (bad ?) statistics. Dr.J.C. good news is CFR going down (DJ-bad news is the data to get some perspective on the pandemic is sometimes incorrect.)

-In Africa do parasites, worms offer (a form of) protection against Covid19 (immune (over) reaction) ? Also a younger population, vitamin D may explain the low impact in Africa (?) Most of malaria, bilharzia (90%) are in Africa-South America has much less of these kind of diseases. Dr.J.C. has doubts on the study-parasite immunity does not last long outside Africa. Big Pharma does not get profit out of these kind of studies-but more study needed.

[url]https://www.rt.com/news/501636-kim-apologizes-south-korea-shooting/[/url] or https://www.rt.com/news/501636-kim-apologizes-south-korea-shooting/ DJ-Covid19 "control" the NK way...

DJ Weather, [url]https://www.meteoalarm.eu/[/url] or https://www.meteoalarm.eu/ We may get storm "Odette"in the BeNeLux, Italy seems to be getting bad weather as well.

WAR

[url]https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/09/lying-with-headlines.html[/url] or https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/09/lying-with-headlines.html DJ-"Embedded media" spreading "news for profit" (they are private companies !) providing "paid (by who ?) info" as facts. 

[url]https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1202040.shtml[/url] or https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1202040.shtml and [url]https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/chinese-state-media-says-a-war-will-start-if-the-us-puts-troops-in-taiwan.14388/[/url] or https://community.defconwarningsystem.com/threads/chinese-state-media-says-a-war-will-start-if-the-us-puts-troops-in-taiwan.14388/ 

DJ-Major war is still "around the corner" with the US being the main problem. 

Music-[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIaaBuGNwNw[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIaaBuGNwNw Living in the twilight zone Golden Earing-Dutch rock !

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