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Here in Scotland my kids due back mid August.  Scottish parliament not giving us a choice.  No blended learning, no home schooling, no social distancing even for my teenagers.   No face coverings except the teaching staff.  Just extra handwashing station.   Huge school as well.  Kids saying it is like the hunger games  they are being forced in an arena and let's see whose family has the best immune system.  

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Omg that's awful. Most schools in our state are offering regular school or distance learning, where they will issue chrome books to the students. 

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OMG, Hazelpad that is awful... can't even think about that.

Here it literally is decided by each school district.  Most have hybrid, and a few are all distance.  And a few are going full-tilt boogie the other direction.  We'll see in about six weeks how this all goes.  But!  Looking at the amount of stories I have seen of spread at parties, play dates, day camps and the like, I am not too optimistic.

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The Independent: Coronavirus news - live: Schools reopening risks second wave twice as big as first, Lancet study warns as Australia deploys army to enforce lockdown.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-live-uk-update-cases-deaths-schools-lockdown-boris-johnson-covid-today-latest-a9652481.html

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Jeez...I rest my case.

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See what happens in 14 days .........🙁

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So many people in my area are hanging on with bloody fingernails to the argument that “kids don’t get Covid”...

Totally ignoring the data showing that they do. They get it, they transmit it, sometimes —tragically — they become very ill and die from it.  Then, the same happens to those they got sick.  And the cycle continues.  Teachers are especially at risk in this cycle.  

I know we cannot keep kids home from school forever; but now is not the time to send them back. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2020 at 4:01pm

Just watching Mark Meadows,interview,

In one breath he says it's safe for children to go back to school ,

In another says, 

We all know if my child gets a cold from school, I will get it a few days later!!!!! 

Why is the health of your child a political issue ?

Why is wearing a mask a political issue ?

Why cast doubt on your election system ?

Sorry I just don't get it, 


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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/260-employees-georgia-s-largest-school-district-test-positive-or-n1235641

260 employees in Georgia's largest school district test positive for or exposed to coronavirus

Gwinnett County, which has the state's largest school district, has seen 4,000 new cases in the past two weeks.


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“This number is fluid as we continue to have new reports and others who are returning to work,” she said in an email.


Roach said that, through contact tracing, they have determined the majority of cases stem from community spread and many employees have called in sick who have not been at school or work.


“Given the number of COVID cases in Gwinnett we would expect to see positives among our employees,” Roach said. The county, Georgia’s second largest, has recorded almost 18,000 cases since the pandemic began, but 4,000 alone in the last two weeks, according to data from the Georgia Department of Public Health. Two hundred and forty people in Gwinnett have died from the virus.



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Georgia student suspended after posting a photo of a crowded school hallway says it was 'good and necessary trouble'

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Student suspended after posting photo of crowded hallway 04:32

(CNN)A viral photo showing students in a Georgia high school crowded in hallways and with few visible masks resulted in the sophomore who posted it being suspended, she said.

Hannah Watters, a student at North Paulding High School in Dallas, Georgia, saw a photo of packed halls on the first day of school go viral. And when she saw that little had changed after that, she told CNN's Laura Coates on Thursday, she felt she had to share what it looked like inside the school. So, she took a photo of the scene and posted it to social media.
"I was concerned for the safety of everyone in that building and everyone in the county because precautions that the CDC and guidelines that the CDC has been telling us for months now, weren't being followed," Watters said.
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Why punish the whistle blower ?

I refuse to believe that children are not affected....

I will believe it, in about 12/18 months if no children get sick

I hope I'm wrong......very wrong.....

Keep safe all 😷😉



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+1, Carbon!

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But Carbon....what she did was high treason going against the Chief in Command's view that children don't spread the virus.


She also showed up the school authorities as not taking proper action....we must not allow independent thinking in our schools, nor the freedom of the individual...


....And we are not allowed to hold accountable those in authority.      

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3 Texas school districts close after one week and iver 1000 testing positive

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Commander in chief ?

More like mein furhrer

"Lest  we forget"

 his heritage..!!!!!!

Oops hope that's not political....😷😉😘



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Originally posted by Usk Usk wrote:

3 Texas school districts close after one week and iver 1000 testing positive

Usk, I haven't been able to find this on the web anywhere.  I know some folks who are trying to.decide between hybrid or online classes, and this info could really help them if I had a source...

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It makes no sense to me. The VERY first day of class, kids and teachers will test positive in schools across the nation. Then what? Close that class? Continue willy-nilly? Close the school? And then the next day, the same thing will happen at other schools. I think this decision will lead to a nationwide school shutdown within a month of starting. THAT will be chaotic and harmful. 

I also think wiser heads will prevail and schools won't open in a month. I also think there is a good chance that most universities and colleges will announce in the next week or two that they are going online for the Fall.

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Coronavirus live updates: Georgia school district says 100 students, staff test positive

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-live-updates-georgia-school-district-100-students/story?id=72250543 

5:57 a.m.: Georgia school district reports 100 COVID-19 cases among students, staff

As the debate about reopening schools continues across the country, many children are already back in classrooms or are about to start. One state that has grabbed headlines this week is Georgia, where photos of crowded hallways showing students without masks went viral.

Now, one of the largest school districts in the Peach State is reporting that 100 of its students and staff are suspected of having tested positive for COVID-19, even before in-person classes have started. Those figures were provided to the district by the Georgia Department of Health.

Cobb County Schools Superintendent Chris Ragsdale said the district would remain virtual "until public health data in Cobb County changes and guidance from state and local public health officials recommends it," according to ABC News Atlanta affiliate WSB. The district, which has about 113,000 students, starts remote learning on Aug. 17.

Georgia exceeded 200,000 COVID-19 cases on Aug. 5, according to an internal Federal Emergency Management Agency memo obtained by ABC News. It took four months for the state to reach 100,000 cases and just four weeks to reach 200,000.

Cobb County, according to the Georgia Department of Health, has more than 13,000 confirmed coronavirus cases, with 1,363 current hospitalizations. The county has at least 317 COVID-19 deaths, the second most in the state, trailing only Fulton County's 420 deaths.

The state has more than 209,000 confirmed cases, with at least 4,117 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins.

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More than 200 students in Georgia are quarantining after the district's first week open saw several test positive for coronavirus

https://www.insider.com/hundreds-students-in-georgia-quarantine-after-first-week-of-class-2020-8

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We started teacher training today, in person classes start the 13th. Neighboring schools have been back in person for 10 days and already going online for two weeks due to the number of teachers in quarantine, but plan to come back after that. Everyone is living in fantasy land, thinking this will work 

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AandEM, do you mind if I ask — do you live in Georgia? 

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I'm in Indiana. We've had some national coverage. Not in a good way😔

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Ohio’s Governor had a press conference on Tuesday with three doctors from Ohio Children’s hospitals.  They were asked about the crowded school hallways that we are seeing in other states.  Their answer was that children spend less than 15 minutes in the hallways, so if they are wearing masks (which they are supposed to do in Ohio) it would be okay.

Ohio is using close proximity for more than 15 minutes as the guide for whether or not someone should quarantine if they have been exposed.  Close proximity being closer than 6 feet.

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And we all know what great judgement kids have...

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I've been back in person for 2 days, largest class of 31, smallest 28.  The kids have been very good about masks, we clean desks  after each class, hand sanitizer between every class. But, we are less than 3 feet apart, and I'm required to offer mask breaks. My guess is it will take many cases for us to actually close, but neighboring district high school went to online for two weeks to reevaluate after 8 cases and 200+ quarantined. We are told that any student in the front row testing positive will put us into quarantine as well. I have no idea how this will be sustainable. I am exhausted. Wearing the mask while teaching, no breaks due to cleaning between classes, nervous kids. Its a lot. It was great to actually see them though, I can't imagine starting online having never even met. This is all such a nightmare. 

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[url]https://nltimes.nl/2020/08/18/sharp-increase-covid-19-infections-children-since-june-30[/url] or https://nltimes.nl/2020/08/18/sharp-increase-covid-19-infections-children-since-june-30

With schools starting to reopen after summer vacation, several concerns have been raised about whether it is safe for children to return to classrooms, particularly those in high school. Since the end of June, the number of Covid-19 infections in children of all ages increased significantly, with the total number of infections among teenagers aged 15 to 19 showing almost a four-fold increase, according to figures from public health institute RIVM. No children died from the viral infection during that period. 

Between June 30th and August 18th, the number of 15 to 19 year olds diagnosed with a coronavirus infection rose from 311 to 1,524. At the end of June, three teens in this age group were hospitalized. That increased to five by August 18. In pre-teens and teens between the ages of 10 and 14, infections increased by 169 percent from 164 on June 30 to a total of 441 on August 18. Only one child in this age group was hospitalized in that period.

The number of infections were lower among younger kids, though they still showed a notable rise. On August 18, 200 children between the ages of 5 and 9 had been infected with coronavirus since early May, a figure which was at 87 on June 30. Among babies and toddlers aged 0 to 4, total infections increased by 62.5 percent, from 80 to 130. While the number of infections was lowest among the youngest group, they were also hospitalized due to the virus most often. From May 4 through the end of June, seven were hospitalized with a Covid-19 infection. In the six weeks that followed, three more children in this age group were in the hospital.


Schools in the Nederland Noord region were the first to reopen their doors after summer vacation on Monday. Unlike before the summer, pupils in both primary and secondary education have to go to school five days a week again. And pupils in secondary education no longer have to maintain social distancing with each other.

Karoly Illy, chairman of the Dutch Pediatric Association and member of the Outbreak Management Team (OMT), raised concerns about the lack of social distancing among teenagers, saying that these kids really need to keep at least 1 meter apart. The pediatricians are not afraid that the teens themselves will get ill, but that they will spread the virus to their parents, grandparents and teachers. "Now that the number of infections is increasing again, we must take timely measures to prevent young people from being blamed for new outbreaks. The very last thing we want is for schools to close again under social pressure. High school pupils have been at home for nearly six months. For them this really is a terrible situation. From a medical point of view, they hardly suffer from the virus, but socially they are by far the hardest hit."

Concerns were also raised about schools not having proper ventilation. Minister Arie Slob for Primary and Secondary Education opened a reporting point where schools can find information about this topic.

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So now I'm "essential". No one seems to know exactly what this means. We teachers might not be quarantining at all? I have 4 students out of class, but we are not given any other information. As of now, we are just told to be ready with our seating charts 24/7. 

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Dr. John Campbell [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xOO9t5HWYs[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xOO9t5HWYs

Children as infection drivers. He earlier had a comment-"show me a virus children do not spread". Why would this Covid19 NOT spread via children when they are the main spreaders of all kind of other virusses ? At best "wishfull thinking" but "bad science". 

(Lots of info/links under the video)

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