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Here in Scotland nightmare.  Cases never been so high and running right through schools.  Have 3 teenagers at school none feel safe.

  Facemasks round the chin new fashion.  

So many positives in their classes.  Classes dont isolate now, only the pupils sitting on each side .  Takes too long for track and trace to work so kids left trying to work it out themselves who sat beside who, when and for how long....total joke. 

Middle daughter testing at midnight tonight along with 8 of her friends online, after classmate  tested positive at 10pm.  Happened numerous times this week with all my kids.  Phone pings and another case.  

So stupid in Scotland sibling can go to school if sister/brother is positive as long as they have a single clear PCR test no repeat needed.  Yeah that really works. ..hear the sarcasm...

It is never ending.  Mine so far all keep testing negative and are the only ones to wear N95 to school.  However luck will run out ...its only a matter of time.

Currently running 9 tests a week, 3 each.

No blended learning allowed.here and if my kids dont go to school I could be prosecuted.

Kids and their friends are very scared.  Our government say they need social interaction to feel normal,,for the good of their mental health....ffs this is not normal social interaction, its classrooms full of fear, testing, suspicion,  arguments,  mask vs nonmask pupils, etc

Awful...sorry for rant but the lunatics have definitely taken over the asylum.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Usk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2021 at 6:50pm

Same here in Virginia   We teachers are also not being allowed to take admin med leave if we are not vaccinated and get COVId we have to take our own personal leave!!!

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Originally posted by Usk Usk wrote:

Same here in Virginia   We teachers are also not being allowed to take admin med leave if we are not vaccinated and get COVId we have to take our own personal leave!!!

So in other words, they are encouraging you to come in when you're sick or lose money / paid leave? That's madness.

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Two weeks in, and the numbers are staggering. Many nearby schools have moved online after 2 weeks due to 3% or higher of the staff and students testing positive. Most went from no masks, no tracing, no distancing directly to building closers. I have no idea what happens now. I wear a mask and keep showing up to a building full of unvaccinated teachers and students too young to get it. Im exhausted and demoralized. We lost a close family friend who did not get vaccinated after having had the virus 9 months ago, and believing that was enough. There seems to be no one in charge. School boards are afraid of angry antimask parents. They are living in a fantasy world. 

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Same here in Virginia   We teachers are also not being allowed to take admin med leave if we are not vaccinated and get COVId we have to take our own personal leave!!!

I believe the idea is that you will vaccinate, so that if the children get sick, it won't be from unvaxxed teachers, sparing the school any requisite legal fallout.  Schools may not be in the business of making money, but they're not in the business of losing money.

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Hi, I teach at a local college.  I have been allowed to teach online instead of in person due to my long COVID recovery.  I teach history, law and geography classes.  I work with disabled students thru the special ed COOP.   My experience is not typical, however it is instructive.  In August, we were told to check our options. First, you could come to teach on campus.  Second, you could teach pod classes with small groups. Third you could teach online.   Today,  I got notice from the college that they have given students the option to switch to online education.  SO I guess that means that the school is going to prepare for a return to online education.   i almost died from COVID so my opinion is to take whatever steps you deem reasonable to protect yourself.  

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Originally posted by ME163 ME163 wrote:

Hi, I teach at a local college.  I have been allowed to teach online instead of in person due to my long COVID recovery.  I teach history, law and geography classes.  I work with disabled students thru the special ed COOP.   My experience is not typical, however it is instructive.  In August, we were told to check our options. First, you could come to teach on campus.  Second, you could teach pod classes with small groups. Third you could teach online.   Today,  I got notice from the college that they have given students the option to switch to online education.  SO I guess that means that the school is going to prepare for a return to online education.   i almost died from COVID so my opinion is to take whatever steps you deem reasonable to protect yourself.  

This fellow teacher (who is, BTW, disabled with traumatic brain injury) salutes you! 

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Thank you.  All teachers deserve praise for what they do during this hell. 

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World Health Network summit on school reopening [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKOyFhyXoc[/url] or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGKOyFhyXoc ;DJ Info usefull not only for the UK !

[url]https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/922996-deaths-from-covid-%E2%80%98incredibly-rare%E2%80%99-among-children[/url] or https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/the-pandemic-discussion-forum/922996-deaths-from-covid-%E2%80%98incredibly-rare%E2%80%99-among-childrenA comprehensive analysis of hospital admissions and reported deaths across England suggests that COVID-19 carries a lower risk of dying or requiring intensive care among children and young people than was previously thought.

In a series of preprints published on medRxiv13, a team of researchers picked through all hospital admissions and deaths reported for people younger than 18 in England. The studies found that COVID-19 caused 25 deaths in that age group between March 2020 and February 2021.

About half of those deaths were in individuals with an underlying complex disability with high health-care needs, such as tube feeding or assistance with breathing...

DJ-Using data from before the Delta-variant showed as an excuse to reopen schools now is misuse of science ! 

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Masks are still voluntary in staff and students. I have class sizes of 36 in each period. There were 20 cases in 5 days in my school, 4 in my classes. Vaccination rates are below 50% in the county. We are doing nothing. Quarantine is optional for kids who are close contacts. It takes 7 days to get PCR tests back.  Hospitals are full and turning people away. I have no idea what happens now. Neighboring school have gone online or mandated masks. 

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This incident happened just a few miles from our home in Arizona....

https://www.kold.com/2021/09/04/vail-principal-receiving-death-threats-following-incident-with-upset-parent/

We often have armed "school resource police officers" in our schools, due to all the problems with gangs, drugs and active shooters.  I train with some of those folks as well as FBI SWAT teams. 

 If I had seen some big sweaty & angry guys storming into my principal's office with military zip-tie handcuffs, well....

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Sickening. When hospitals are full, children's hospitals too, will that change anything? 

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CNN: 13 Miami-Dade school employees have died of Covid-19 since mid-August.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/07/us/miami-school-employees-covid/index.html

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Hey all! I have been gone a bit because I had trouble getting into my account.  I wanted to give you an update from Colorado.  We have 75% of our population 12 and up that have had at least one dose of the vaccine, yet our hospitals ICU's are filling up more and more and we have less than 10% capacity left.  Now of course, a lot of these are ailments other than COVID but the COVID ones are taking up enough space that the other ailments can't get into beds in some places.  I feel like none of this has been on the news so I think that is crazy.

I also think the amount of teachers that have died in Florida is crazy.

I am not sure if I understand whats going on these days.  No one seems to believe anything that is being said.  People are also super angry and on edge.

I just want to isolate because the world seems crazy right now!

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The world IS crazy right now. There's such hate and vitriol being leveled at people who don't share our opinions. There is huge intolerance of differing points of view and that, as any historian can confirm, is the precursor to civil war.

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I feel like a civil war is very likely here in the US.  The problem is that the people that got the vaccine seem to be pitted against the ones that didn't.  I am not sure how your own personal medical choice makes you enemies.  I am fully vaccinated and I don't care if others get it or not, but they care that I got it and are mad at me.  Makes no sense.  They think I am a sheep for getting it and now want to start a fight with me.  Its so crazy.  I don't care what anyone else does with their body so why do they care what I do with mine?!?!  Its nuts!

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I really don't understand the mentally of some folks, 

I don't see what business it is of anyone what meds your on ,or wether you wear a mask or not ,

Here you see people in on the train ,in the street, wherever with mask on ,no one here bats an eyelid, it's so childish,I mean so childish,

But what do expect when  theses people crap on about rights, then deny a woman the right to do what she believes is best for her......sad sad  losers ......

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Originally posted by roni3470 roni3470 wrote:

I feel like a civil war is very likely here in the US.  The problem is that the people that got the vaccine seem to be pitted against the ones that didn't.  I am not sure how your own personal medical choice makes you enemies.  I am fully vaccinated and I don't care if others get it or not, but they care that I got it and are mad at me.  Makes no sense.  They think I am a sheep for getting it and now want to start a fight with me.  Its so crazy.  I don't care what anyone else does with their body so why do they care what I do with mine?!?!  Its nuts!

I couldn't agree more. Science has proven that the vaccines only give a benefit to the person receiving it so why are people so angry if someone doesn't have it? Why the mandates? What possible benefit does a mandate bring to the party? 

We are honestly seeing an end to the "my body, my choice" era. When a local shop can insist on seeing your vaccine status before they allow you in, it's outrageous.

Live and let live.

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We've now changed to optional masks and optional quarantines. We are leaving it up to parents. Many teachers are sick again. Dozens of students sick, multiple student hospitalizations. Two parents in their 40s have died. Multiple parents currently hospitalized. The small local hospital is full. 

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We've now changed to optional masks and optional quarantines. We are leaving it up to parents. Many teachers are sick again. Dozens of students sick, multiple student hospitalizations. Two parents in their 40s have died. Multiple parents currently hospitalized. The small local hospital is full. 

I think there's always going to be problems in any environment where numerous people are together in a small space. It must be a nightmare for teachers and parents alike. So many classrooms are overfull as it is, so social distancing and adequate free flowing ventilation must be very hard, if not impossible to achieve.

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I've been teaching for 25+ years. Nothing comes close to the illness and death I've witnessed recently. I've had a very hard time remaining positive and hopeful. I feel like no one cares about the teachers or the students, they only care about their personal beliefs. I love what I do, and want to be there for the kids, but its not sustainable. 

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One of my children is at university here and masks are optional in lectures but he says all the students are wearing them but the lecturer isn't - obviously it's hard to give a lecture in a mask. Also no more than 100 people are allowed in a room together and they are asked to leave an empty seat between them. 

It must be a complete nightmare for you. Personally I wouldn't want to be in a crowded classroom right now.

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