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FluMom
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Well I was waiting for the Stock Market go go down to 15K to purchase more stocks. Am going to start shopping not buying but shopping! |
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That's the spirit! |
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My company will most likely close, temporally of course (they are 56 yr old no company with no debt)...my family, is fine, with the preps/ stores, and the farm were going to be ok, other than the unknown health ramifications of this. We haven't hit peek yet, and the smell is in the air already, states closing businesses and whiffs of national shutdown....that is what wall street is sensing.......I have a strong feeling, before mid week (honestly I think tomorrow) the Government will call for major shutdowns, and travel restrictions of which we have never seen in our lifetime....If you chart the incrementalism by National, state and local, it's undeniable where were heading. But this for sure is modern history in the making.......Good luck peeps, and gods speed! |
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The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself......FDR
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Dow futures are -1041. |
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WOW. Stock Market halted in first 10 seconds after the open. Dow opened -2250. BLACK MONDAY. |
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CRS, DrPH
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/16/business/stock-market-drops-recap.htmlStocks plunge in worst drop of coronavirus outbreak.Financial markets cratered on Monday, as investors were confronted with evidence that a steep decline in the world’s largest economies may have already begun. The sell-off began after the Federal Reserve took extraordinary steps on Sunday afternoon to bolster the American economy, signaling that it saw an economic crisis unfolding as businesses shut down and borders are closed to contain the coronavirus. The financial downdraft was global, with major benchmarks in Asia, Europe and the United States all falling on Monday. Then came news that factory activity in China — one of the world’s largest economies — fell 13.5 percent last month compared with February of last year. Investment in China fell by roughly 25 percent. And one of the first bits of data for American economic activity in March, a gauge of manufacturing activity in New York State, showed a record one-month plunge in the measure, which fell to its lowest level since 2009. “Unfortunately, this is the new reality. This report is a harbinger of what is to come,” wrote economic analysts with investment bank Jefferies in New York. The Trump administration released new public guidelines on Monday to slow the spread of the coronavirus, including closing schools and avoiding groups of more than 10 people, discretionary travel, bars, restaurants and food courts. The S&P 500 fell 12 percent, its biggest drop since the coronavirus outbreak began to roil markets in the United States last month — and its worst daily decline since October 1987, when stocks plunged about 20 percent in what came to be known as Black Monday. For the technology heavy Nasdaq, the drop was its worst on record. Energy prices also slid sharply as investors factored in significant slowdowns in economic activity. Global oil prices plunged to below $30 a barrel, the lowest level in more than four years. Oil has fallen by half since the start of the year, and some analysts predict that oil prices could drop below $20 a barrel in the coming weeks. |
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FluMom
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Yes what would you expect the stock market in any Pandemic would do this especially one that is this deadly! The countries have to close you know it CRS so what you would expect the market not to drop like a stone. Give me a BREAK, we all knew all of this was going to happen with a Pandemic like this one. Repeating that the market dropped is redundant. |
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CRS, DrPH
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There is much more at play here, FluMom, that is unrelated to the pandemic.....Russia and Saudia Arabia are teaming up to destroy America's domestic oil & gas industry, Trump has taken move after move that have rattled corporations (I'm VP of one), consumer confidence is in the toilet, and so forth. Pandemics have been predicted forever, why did Trump dismantle so much of the public health infrastructure? He left us vulnerable to a near-certain pandemic. The market is voting with its feet. I think that moves could have been made to bolster the market, I just hope this doesn't go all the way down into depression territory. It easily could. |
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FluMom
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He did not dismantle the Health structure the last guy on the Pandemic Group just came out and said NO ONE dismantled the group. Just saw it on the news...local news no less. Hey Obama sent more money to IRAN than the Wall was going to cost us and the LEFT would not support it so if anyone is to blame go to Shumer and Pelosi. Yes Russia has moved in to try and dismantle the U.S. Oil but Trump stopped that he is going to fill the U.S. Oil Reserves that will really help our Oil Companies. If we go into depression territory who cares we all lose and we will all survive. Our parents and grandparents survived so will we! Gee guys get a grip! |
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WitchMisspelled
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Back to topic. Futures are on the upswing. It won't nearly cover our losses, but I think with the cratering that happened yesterday we'll see some pump and dump. Hopefully we'll be able to see a pattern that lets us know the new bottom. Fingers crossed! |
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CRS, DrPH
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Dead cat bounce! I don't see much reason for optimism, as consumer confidence has cratered, folks are running out of cash and industrial production is suffering. Markets will eventually come back, but some major entities like weaker airlines, hotel chains, restraints etc. may not make it. |
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FluMom
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Not even a dead cat! More like a dead mouse bounce....Lol! |
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I know. But look at the industries that boomed out of the 87 debacle. I have faith in the younger generation to create something magnificent. I agree with your statement though. Some entities will not make it. But I think we'll make do. |
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CRS, DrPH
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The American stock market is probably the strongest in the world, and it draws investors from across the globe. UK and Europe have been wounded by BREXIT, South America is always slow, and Asia has been hamstrung by China's poor response to the this outbreak. Also, Trump's trade war against China damaged their economy in serious ways that have yet to be determined. We'll recover, but if projections hold that the US may suffer as many as 2 million mortalities from COVID-19, we'll be knocked backward severely. I studied the effects of nuclear terror attack on a major US city, and 2 million mortalities is comparable to what we'd face in an attack upon NYC, LA or Chicago. Now, these will largely be older citizens, but the damage will still be considerable. I'm not counting my chickens, and we may yet dodge this bullet, but the 2 million deaths figure caught the attention of folks in the White House. BTW, thanks for your business input, it is not something we speak about much on AFT! |
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Dead bat bounce. (somebody had to say it) |
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CRS, DrPH
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Well done! |
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
His lips or pen are moving. |
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EdwinSm,
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Seem to have lost all of yesterday's bounce. It does seem like that was a dead bat bounce. |
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Stock market is halted. |
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More like a dead bat flop then :( |
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How do you tell if a politician is lying?
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CRS, DrPH
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Market has completely given up all gains since Trump was elected President. |
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WitchMisspelled
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19,898.92 That'll teach me to be optimistic... |
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Market would have reacted this way no matter who was president. |
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FluMom
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Gee tonight I am going to make out my shopping list for stocks I want to snap up!!! I hope it goes to 15,000!!! I would love to buy at that price again! |
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EdwinSm,
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I think that is true, and whoever wins the election come November (if it is still on) gets my initial sympathies for having to deal with a mess. However, the current president has made a greater fuss than most presidents about using the stock market as an indicator of how Great he is doing - if he wanted to take the credit for the run up in the market, it is just fairness that he should expect the same treatment in a down turn. [Ps. I am not happy with the down turn as I have a pension from the USA and this will crush what I was expecting to get - I never worked in the States, but I did work for an American organisation for some years.] |
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