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The Covid vaccines are not actually "vaccines"

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    Posted: September 11 2021 at 1:17pm

So here is any interesting quote. It demonstates what has been said for some time, that the so called vaccines being given for Covid are actually not vaccines but are medical treatments being given to people BEFORE they have the disease that the injections are supposed to treat. And this is from the World Health Organization.

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The World Health Organization states “that a drug is called a 'vaccine' if it protects people before they come into contact with the disease, and if it prevents the transmission of the disease in the community. Yet this COVID19 injection will not do these things. The Australian Therapeutic Goods Administrator (TGA) states that “this medical intervention will not prevent you getting the disease, nor will it prevent transmission of the disease in the community."

Further, the WHO definition states “...because vaccines contain only killed or weakened forms of germs, viruses and bacteria, they do not cause the disease or put you at risk of its complications.” Yet, the COVID19 injections do not contain any of the killed or weakened Coronavirus 2019 (the causal agent) so this intervention does not meet the criteria to be called a 'vaccine'.

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https://www.healthpartners.com/blog/childhood-immunization-schedule-by-age/


Many childhood vaccines are multiple shots to achieve full immunity.

The covid vaccine may also be that. 


An overview of immunizations for newborns to 18-month-olds

  • Hep B – Many new parents wonder what vaccines are given at birth, and just one "newborn vaccine" is recommended right away: the first dose of hepatitis B. The first dose is recommended right away in case mothers are knowingly or unknowingly hepatitis B positive. Three doses are needed in total. The second dose is recommended when your child is between 1 and 2 months old, and the third dose is recommended between 6 and 18 months.
  • Rotavirus – Depending on manufacturer of the vaccine, your child may need two or three doses of the rotavirus vaccine, with the first dose being given at 2 months old and the second at 4 months old. If needed, the third dose is given at 6 months old. It’s important to note that this vaccine cannot be given after 8 months of age, so following the recommended schedule is especially important to ensure your child is protected.
  • DTaP – The diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis vaccine requires five doses. The first four are recommended at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and between 15 and 18 months old.
  • Hib – Depending on the manufacturer of the vaccine, your child may need three or four doses of the haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine. If three doses are needed, shots are given at 2 months, 4 months, and between 12 and 15 months old. If four doses are needed, kids also receive a dose at 6 months old.
  • PCV – The pneumococcal vaccine is a series of four doses taking place at 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and between 12 and 15 months old.
  • IPV – The poliovirus vaccine is another four-dose series. The first three are recommended at 2 months, 4 months, and between 6 and 18 months old.
  • MMR – The measles, mumps and rubella vaccine is given in two doses. The schedule recommends the first MMR vaccine dose be given between 12 and 15 months old.
  • Varicella – The chickenpox vaccine is also given in two doses, with the first shot taking place between 12 and 15 months old.
  • Hep A – Like several other important vaccines, the hepatitis A vaccine requires two doses. The first dose is recommended at 12 months old.

Recommended immunizations for children ages 4 to 6 years old

The shots recommended between ages 4 and 6 are often called “kindergarten vaccines” because kids are often required to be up to date on their immunizations to start attending elementary school. No new vaccines are introduced at this time, but oftentimes vaccines are given as combinations.

For example, DTap and IPV can be given in a single shot. MMR and varicella vaccines can also be combined into a single immunization. These vaccines are just as effective when given together, and it cuts down on the number of shots kids need.

An overview of immunizations for kids ages 4 to 6 years old

  • DTaP – The fifth and final diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis vaccine is recommended when your child is between 4 and 6 years old.
  • IPV – The fourth and final poliovirus vaccine is recommended when your child is between 4 and 6 years old.
  • MMR – The second and final dose of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine is also recommended when your child is between 4 and 6 years old.
  • Varicella – The second and final dose of the chickenpox vaccine is also recommended when your child is between 4 and 6 years old.

Recommended immunizations for children ages 11 to 12 years old

The immunizations that are recommended at this age (a.k.a. middle school shots) are for diseases that teens and young adults are at higher risk for – plus one “booster” dose to strengthen immunity for three diseases. Your child’s annual wellness visit or back-to-school checkup is the perfect time to get these vaccines.

An overview of immunizations for kids ages 11 to 12 years old

  • Tdap – At this age, this immunization is what’s commonly referred to as a “booster shot” because it boosts your child’s tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis immunity. While related to the DTaP vaccine kids receive during childhood, this vaccine is formulated for adolescents and adults.
  • MenACWY – The first of two meningococcal vaccine doses is recommended sometime between 11 years old and 12 years old. This vaccine protects against the most common types of meningococcal bacteria (often the cause of meningitis) that affect adolescents.
  • HPV – While in some cases doctors may recommend the human papillomavirus vaccine as early as age 9, this vaccine is routinely recommended to begin between 11 and 12 years old. If the initial vaccination is completed before age 14, just two doses are needed. The second dose should be completed 6 to 12 months after the first dose. (If the initial vaccination is completed at age 15 or older, three doses are needed at specific intervals.)

Recommended immunizations for teens ages 16 to 18 years old

Between the ages of 16 and 18, there is one regularly recommended immunization and one immunization that may be recommended under certain circumstances.

An overview of immunizations for teens ages 16 to 18 years old

  • MenACWY – The second and final meningococcal vaccine shot is recommended at 16 years old.
  • MenB – The meningococcal B vaccine is recommended under specific circumstances, specifically if a college or university requires students to have this vaccination, or if a bacterial meningitis outbreak has occurred. The vaccine is given in two doses between the ages of 16 and 18. Once the first dose is given, the timing of the second dose is dependent on the manufacturer of the vaccine.
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Sorry Pixie but I don't see the point you're trying to make with your post. 

You've quoted the list of childhood vaccinations that are available, and that most children get. No one is questioning those or their efficacy. My children have had all their childhood vaccinations. The vaccines that you've listed are all tried and tested and they fit the description of a vaccine according to the World Health Organization. These vaccines work by introducing a tiny amount of dead virus into a child's system so their immune system can build a defense against it. These vaccines are not being questioned, they are undoubtedly a good thing. 

What I was talking about is a direct quote from the WHO website, that, when applied to the Covid "vaccines", illustrates that these injections are not actually vaccines. They are medical treatments. That's all. No one is questioning whether proper vaccinations are good thing or not, but I am questioning (along with countless others) why these Covid injections are being marketed as vaccines when they do not prevent you getting the disease, or reduce your viral load, or stop you from being contagious to other people. 

I'm all for these injections if they were marketed truthfully and aimed at the sectors of society for whom they would prove to be of real benefit. And, fyi, those sectors do not include normal, healthy children.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote carbon20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2021 at 7:37pm

Originally posted by KiwiMum KiwiMum wrote:


Further, the WHO definition states “...because vaccines contain only killed or weakened forms of germs, viruses and bacteria, they do not cause the disease or put you at risk of its complications.” Yet, the COVID19 injections do not contain any of the killed or weakened Coronavirus 2019 (the causal agent) so this intervention does not meet the criteria to be called a 'vaccine'.

This quote is missing a bit ....try this...


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https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=26-USC-222761909-1963936815&term_occur=999&term_src=



a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
"every year the flu vaccine is modified to deal with new strains of the virus"







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I used the children’s schedule to point out that full immunity with any vaccination is not achieved with a single dose,the covid vaccine may be the same before we will be protected against any infection,transmission to others,or high viral load. I’ll take less severity of illness and not dying over rejecting the science of new technology in vaccine development any day.

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Thanks Pixie.  I understood that to be the point that you were making,


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