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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote AI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2020 at 4:58pm

Originally posted by carbon20 carbon20 wrote:


And how do you know I don't know anything about American politics,


Really, again reading comprehension. You could even do it on line. 

Your limitations are rather obvious when it comes to US history and politics. All you have to do is open your mouth and rhetoric falls out and it's not even the smart kind.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Technophobe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2020 at 5:18pm

Now now, Carbon.  Don't be so trollish!

Yes, the majority of the world thinks the GOO hilarious, but you still have to be polite to the rest of America, especially those smart enough to be here on AFT.

Smack wrist!

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Originally posted by Technophobe Technophobe wrote:

Now now, Carbon.  Don't be so trollish!

Yes, the majority of the world thinks the GOO hilarious, but you still have to be polite to the rest of America, especially those smart enough to be here on AFT.

Smack wrist!

Ah doesn't bother me, I've seen better, much much better. He's like a one trick pony.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WitchMisspelled Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2020 at 6:42pm

Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

What can I say, I'd take the word of someone of who has actually done the job as a senior director at that level and who was actually there and has firsthand knowledge, over someone who took a 2 day course offered by the FBI and was never there or at that level. 


AI, I say this with no malice or wish to denigrate your opinion.  However, reading CRS's posts has allowed me to put a few things together.  If CRS's credentials go as "high" as I suspect, he's one of the dudes that helps writes the policy that directors follow.  That's not to say CRS should confirm or deny this.  I'm just sayin'...

You maybe right WM, however I highly suspect if that was the case he would have let everyone know, as he does shall I say have a certain penchant in that regard.

I could be completely wrong.  But, CRS has made mention of some things that add up to a direction other than just some training manager who teaches policy.   In some cases, connections should be kept quiet.  Not everyone brags about their accomplishments. Bragging reveals things that are just safer hidden under a bushel.  
  

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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

What can I say, I'd take the word of someone of who has actually done the job as a senior director at that level and who was actually there and has firsthand knowledge, over someone who took a 2 day course offered by the FBI and was never there or at that level. 


AI, I say this with no malice or wish to denigrate your opinion.  However, reading CRS's posts has allowed me to put a few things together.  If CRS's credentials go as "high" as I suspect, he's one of the dudes that helps writes the policy that directors follow.  That's not to say CRS should confirm or deny this.  I'm just sayin'...

You maybe right WM, however I highly suspect if that was the case he would have let everyone know, as he does shall I say have a certain penchant in that regard.

I could be completely wrong.  But, CRS has made mention of some things that add up to a direction other than just some training manager who teaches policy.   In some cases, connections should be kept quiet.  Not everyone brags about their accomplishments. Bragging reveals things that are just safer hidden under a bushel.  
  

I call bullshit

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There seems to be some common sense recommendations for re-opening if people will follow the instructions and not put others at risk just to make a political points. It's nonsense how grow up adults are acting over wearing masks, what a bunch of cry babies.  

We still don't know what the long term problems this illness could cause let along how long the immunity will last.  We have the best universities and smartest people in the world in the US  and we have a political party that goes on gut feel when it comes to science.  

Fauci is right, let the CDC make the recommendations and open when we have the testing and tracing in place. There is no need for 50% oi the population to get this illness just so people can get a hair cut or go to the movies.  Glad I live in a state that has their act together WA.   

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Originally posted by Taxman100 Taxman100 wrote:

There seems to be some common sense recommendations for re-opening if people will follow the instructions and not put others at risk just to make a political points. It's nonsense how grow up adults are acting over wearing masks, what a bunch of cry babies.  

We still don't know what the long term problems this illness could cause let along how long the immunity will last.  We have the best universities and smartest people in the world in the US  and we have a political party that goes on gut feel when it comes to science.  

Fauci is right, let the CDC make the recommendations and open when we have the testing and tracing in place. There is no need for 50% oi the population to get this illness just so people can get a hair cut or go to the movies.  Glad I live in a state that has their act together WA.   

I live in WA too only westside. I wouldn't pat Inslee on the back too hard, he was aware of community transmission of the virus as a result of the Seattle Flu Project about a month before he issued the stay at home order, from a case that was identified by them that had no foreign travel or connection to the first case identified in Jan. At the very least he could have shut the schools down in Snohomish and King counties, counties with the highest numbers now, a month before he issued the stay at home order.

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Originally posted by Taxman100 Taxman100 wrote:

We still don't know what the long term problems this illness could cause let along how long the immunity will last. 

You're absolutely right there. There are increasingly frequent reports of people who've only had a mild case of Covid being left with heart damage and lung scarring. It's far too early to write this disease off as a mild inconvenience.

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Originally posted by kaye kaye kaye kaye wrote:

Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Originally posted by AI AI wrote:

What can I say, I'd take the word of someone of who has actually done the job as a senior director at that level and who was actually there and has firsthand knowledge, over someone who took a 2 day course offered by the FBI and was never there or at that level. 


AI, I say this with no malice or wish to denigrate your opinion.  However, reading CRS's posts has allowed me to put a few things together.  If CRS's credentials go as "high" as I suspect, he's one of the dudes that helps writes the policy that directors follow.  That's not to say CRS should confirm or deny this.  I'm just sayin'...

You maybe right WM, however I highly suspect if that was the case he would have let everyone know, as he does shall I say have a certain penchant in that regard.

I could be completely wrong.  But, CRS has made mention of some things that add up to a direction other than just some training manager who teaches policy.   In some cases, connections should be kept quiet.  Not everyone brags about their accomplishments. Bragging reveals things that are just safer hidden under a bushel.  
  

I call bullshit

I'll see your bullshit and raise you.   I've been informed about some scary bullshit, pathogens MUCH worse than this 

stupid little corona virus.  You have no idea how soft & vulnerable the West is to our adversaries, and Trump sucks up to all of them.


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Originally posted by kaye kaye kaye kaye wrote:

I call bullshit

Of course you do because you've never been involved with any of the intelligence agencies.  I have had, to a limited degree, involvement both professionally and socially.  Clearly CRS has ties closer than any of us.  

Apples and oranges.

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Originally posted by WitchMisspelled WitchMisspelled wrote:

Originally posted by kaye kaye kaye kaye wrote:

I call bullshit

Of course you do because you've never been involved with any of the intelligence agencies.  I have had, to a limited degree, involvement both professionally and socially.  Clearly CRS has ties closer than any of us.  

Apples and oranges.

Thanks, WM!  These are friends of mine (FBI SWAT team).  No BS.  These folks are a-mazing! 

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I’ve known Chuck through AFT for a long time, and we PM each other regularly. You’re going to have to work awful hard to make me believe he’s anything but the genuine article. His insights and experience have been invaluable to us in the past.



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Hey, JD, your yes-man is back,    DITTO.

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Yep Doc's always there with sound advise,

 Up to the listener, 

If they Want to hear 

what's been said!!!!!!....


Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.🖖

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